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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jim Rich on January 21, 2017, 06:17:17 PM
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Freddie King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOj76VKJRi4
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What's not to like? <shrug>
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Probably JJ Cale's favorite electric guitars . Worked in a music store that sold Gibsons in 68-71 , the jam sessions after close were epic at times .
Dusty
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Larry Carlton!
"Mr 335"
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Larry Carlton!
"Mr 335"
:1: :1:
Eric Johnson :bow:
Paul B :boozing:
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OK, so i followed the link- and saw this in the sidebar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv6iM4ce0NA
What was the subject of this thread again?
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JJ Cale, Larry Carlton and Raquel were all amazing. Wish I had been in that music store.
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Classic indeed. A close friend lost his ES 335 to theft many years ago, never, to this day got over it... :sad:
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JJ Cale, Larry Carlton and Raquel were all amazing. Wish I had been in that music store.
I closed the store on Thursday night , this was in Tulsa during that era . David Teegarden , Ronnie Hawkins , Gary Lewis (don't laugh , he had some chops) Leon , Carl Radle , etc . They would start out just noodling , trying out stuff , after about 30 minutes things got serious .
Dusty
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Cool guitars, but I prefer longer scale necks. I'm more of a Fender Telecaster guy...on electrics, anyway.
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Freddie King used a thumb pick to come across with the same powerful intensity that his voice produced. Saw him in a small theater around 1974 called Liberty Hall here in Houston close to when that album was released. Remarkable performer.
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I'm with Sheepdog, I like the twang of a Tele. and the depth of a Martin acoustic.
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Old Fender 63 Tele ........ with a story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4yavD9AEY
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/player%20clock_zpsca9cync9.jpg)
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For some reason 335's never quite did it for me ..............
And I still don't quite know why, the tones I'm was mostly
Chasing seemed to reside within the Les Paul/SG/Strat/Tele
Circle in solids - with right amp.
Maurie.
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Don't BB King and Alvin Lee get some respect?
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Don't get me wrong; I think that there are some superb guitarists who play Gibsons. My long-scale envy is a player's preference.
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The way a guitar sounds is also dependent on the pickups , string size , and the guy wielding it . Stevie Ray always sounded like Stevie Ray , whether he was playing his #1 , or some old cheap axe. Heck , JJ Cale played a 50 dollar acoustic Harmony .
Dusty
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Well - it's all very subjective and "what works for you", don't
know how kids learn these days with it all being so analysed,
Disected and push this button. I started playing before there
Was much in the way of written music for Guitar and so learned
by ear. We were searching for our "voice" and that particular
tone that was the most expressive.
Before effects started coming in that meant finding the
Guitar/Amp combo that floated your boat most and that
Your could wring the most emotion out of.
Maurie.
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Gibson for guitars. Fender for bass.
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We covered every Freddie King song. He was a MONSTER. Shared the bill with Larry Carlton way back-what a masterful player.
Funny how a 335 in "every man's" hands sounded like a guitar and in other guys hands sounded like heaven.
Dusty is right. The sound is all in the players hands.
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We covered every Freddie King song. He was a MONSTER. Shared the bill with Larry Carlton way back-what a masterful player.
Funny how a 335 in "every man's" hands sounded like a guitar and in other guys hands sounded like heaven.
Dusty is right. The sound is all in the players hands.
That's also true of every other type of Guitar too. Of coarse Dusty man is right but stepping back for a wider view the axe has got to
have the right feel, voice and attitude, different axes make you play a different way .............. like for me I've sort of got to attack a
Fender where as a Gibson flows more. Strats For me need a C neck and the pickups wired individually with seperate on/off switches.
One guy I worked with used a Goldtop until he came across this shit Frampton Tele Deluxe copy he got for $100 with a slightly loose
neck which didn't cause it to go out of tune for some reason but you could bend it all over the place, up, down, forward making it wale
and then you pulled it back and it was in tune again. Effing thing sang like an Angel Crying. The Goldtop became his spare. :wink:
Maurie.
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I don't play.. but I saw Zappa once.. did he use one?
(https://photos.smugmug.com/All/i-GMCsRP7/0/XL/Zappa-XL.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/All/i-GMCsRP7/A)
of course he can play anything including a bike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MewcnFl_6Y&t=17s
I guess he favored Fender..
5:00+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJxoV5O8HUU
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My bread and butter. Neck hand rolled in Kalamazoo. Versatile. Comfortable. Best sitting electric there is. I do love me a tele as well though...
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/tiokimo/Heritage%20535/P1130336-1-.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/tiokimo/media/Heritage%20535/P1130336-1-.jpg.html)
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(http://thumb.ibb.co/cZaHaa/Alvin_Lee_Union_Jack.jpg) (http://ibb.co/cZaHaa)
Alvin did ok using just 3 fingers. The closest I ever got to a 335 was my old 70s Epiphone Japanese 335 copy. I try to keep myself content with my cheap guitars, but "I can' be satisfied"
(http://thumb.ibb.co/ipAWka/YAMAHA_PACIFICA_302_S.jpg) (http://ibb.co/ipAWka)
Here's my current favorite.
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(http://thumb.ibb.co/cZaHaa/Alvin_Lee_Union_Jack.jpg) (http://ibb.co/cZaHaa)
Alvin did ok using just 3 fingers. The closest I ever got to a 335 was my old 70s Epiphone Japanese 335 copy. I try to keep myself content with my cheap guitars, but "I can' be satisfied"
(http://thumb.ibb.co/ipAWka/YAMAHA_PACIFICA_302_S.jpg) (http://ibb.co/ipAWka)
Here's my current favorite.
Terry Kath only used 3 fingers also and could rip up his Gibson SG AND his Tele and Strat .
Dusty
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I like the 335, but one that is on my list to own is an ES-345 Stereo.
jdg
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My bread and butter. Neck hand rolled in Kalamazoo. Versatile. Comfortable. Best sitting electric there is. I do love me a tele as well though...
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/tiokimo/Heritage%20535/P1130336-1-.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/tiokimo/media/Heritage%20535/P1130336-1-.jpg.html)
Luverly, good wood is endlessly beautiful, isn't it?
But if your gonna start with the photo's I'm out - haven't played Guitar in years - went to the Darkside and started playing Bass.
My son has taken over ownership of my old LP Standard - he thinks :)
Maurie.
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Like them, never owned the type. Borrowed an Epi Dot but couldn't connect with it. All other bases covered with my Strat, Tele, LP and D-28. Although I still lust after a non-reverse TV white Firebird w/ P90s.
Tobit
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I owned a cherry red ES-355 with Vibrola for ten or twelve years.
Sweet old guitar that I never really learned to play.
Was purty to look at, though...
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Alvin did ok using just 3 fingers. The closest I ever got to a 335 was my old 70s Epiphone Japanese 335 copy. I try to keep myself content with my cheap guitars, but "I can' be satisfied"
(http://ibb.co/cZaHaa)
I don't know what kind of guitar he played, but Django Reinhardt was a three fingered master.
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Terry Kath only used 3 fingers also and could rip up his Gibson SG AND his Tele and Strat .
Dusty
I just googled him. It said he invented and founded the Pignose Amp company. :grin: I never knew. :thumb: I remember commenting to a friend about the guitar player for Chicago. Not a "big band" fan at the time, I said , "This guitar player is wasted on that bunch of horn blowing sissies...", or something to that effect. :laugh:
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I saw Terry Kath play. He was a brilliant player. It takes great ears to play in a horn band and get the phrasing right over their parts.
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Have 2 Gibson SG Standards, one from back in the day when I could make a few dollars playing and that one gets pampered. The new to me one was pretty beat up and it was liberating to have a very used but nice guitar. Rained all day yesterday and the roads still have too much grit on the mountain so no ride - took apart a pretty nice $75 guitar I gave my little boy (5) to learn on. Fixed it up, glued some things, tidied up wires, some new screws, a lot of fun that I wouldn't do on a nice guitar.
Never played a 335. I do enjoy a hollow-body Gretsch that I gave my musician son (23) but he wound up re-gifting it to me since he's only playing nylon strings.
Getting ready for my first gig in years late this spring so immersing myself in the fun of guitars and amps again. Of the Kings, they are all amazing - Albert's tones speak to me the most.
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What? No love for Rickenbacker guitars and basses?
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I just googled him. It said he invented and founded the Pignose Amp company. :grin: I never knew. :thumb: I remember commenting to a friend about the guitar player for Chicago. Not a "big band" fan at the time, I said , "This guitar player is wasted on that bunch of horn blowing sissies...", or something to that effect. :laugh:
Yeah but , those sissy horn players are all married to beautiful ladies and have ALL the money :laugh:
I saw Terry Kath play. He was a brilliant player. It takes great ears to play in a horn band and get the phrasing right over their parts.
Chicago live at Tanglewood 1970 .
Dusty
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I don't know what kind of guitar he played, but Django Reinhardt was a three fingered master.
Uh yeah. :smiley: It's not the name on the hammer handle. .it's the guy swinging it.
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Brad,
I think Frank Zappa was playing the stereo version of the 335 in that picture, I think it was called a 355. They had two output cables and could be run to separate amps or devices at the same time. I played with a friend who had one, he had one cord to a fender amp, the other cord to a Lesley speaker like a Hammond organ would use. Sounded pretty incredible.
Most of the pictures I saw of Frank showed him playing Gibson SGs. But like a lot of successful players probably had a warehouse full to choose from.
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When I was seriously looking for an electric guitar, I was very interested in the 335 until I found out it is not a full hollow body. I was not impressed with the 2x4 running down the middle.
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Brad,
I think Frank Zappa was playing the stereo version of the 335 in that picture, I think it was called a 355. They had two output cables and could be run to separate amps or devices at the same time. I played with a friend who had one, he had one cord to a fender amp, the other cord to a Lesley speaker like a Hammond organ would use. Sounded pretty incredible.
Stereo was an option on the 345 and 355. I think that Frank Zappa photo from earlier shows a 345, based on the inlays on the fretboard.
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When I was seriously looking for an electric guitar, I was very interested in the 335 until I found out it is not a full hollow body. I was not impressed with the 2x4 running down the middle.
They made a full hollow version (330), which serves a purpose, but was prone to feedback. The center block diminishes this, while still allowing a woody tone not available from an LP. 335 is super versatile, capable of the full round tones of a Scofield Carlton, to full on snarl of an LP, because of that block. Versatile, comfortable axe.