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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: flower_king001 on February 12, 2017, 07:30:58 AM
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Hi,
I'm not a fan of Lady Gaga but this video has some Guzzi content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9iQ8lIfyEs
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Lady Gaga has grown on me over the years but still not as good as the Ann Margret/Guzzi video.
GliderJohn
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Lady Gaga has grown on me over the years but still not as good as the Ann Margret/Guzzi video.
GliderJohn
Absolute!
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Lady Gaga has grown on me over the years but still not as good as the Ann Margret/Guzzi video.
GliderJohn
Watching this video reminds me that I have already "morphed" in Guzzi-Geezer-dom!! (LOL) :laugh: :grin: :wink: :cool: :thumb:
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Struggling with the John Wayne reference? More like John Wayne Bobbitt!
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Thanks, that was fun. I'll bet they had fun making the video.
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fun vid!
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Reminds me of my early 20s back in the Ozarks . Man, we were bored, looking for excitement any way we could find it.
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Bike is OK, music sucks...
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too funny my son dislikes Gaga...says she stinks...she certainly learned a bit from our Michigan girl Madonna
whether you like her or not she is very talented...as said by glider John she grows on you
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Hi,
I'm not a fan of Lady Gaga but this video has some Guzzi content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9iQ8lIfyEs
Thanks for sharing
I am curious, what prompted a non Lady Gaga fan to watch the music video and later saw a guzzi in the scene? :grin:
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Thanks for sharing
I am curious, what prompted a non Lady Gaga fan to watch the music video and later saw a guzzi in the scene? :grin:
A co-worker pointed out these "jugs" in the video as he thought he had seen some like them in the parking lot.
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She's not dull. Tip of the cap to Madonna for blazing the trail.
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I can't get past the made-up name and the slut culture these bimbos are promoting. Bad role models.
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Elvis 1954 not well received by older folks ( like us)
Beatles 1964 considered blaspheme by many
1974 Queen...Freddy Mercury nuff said
!983 MJ grabs his crotch while singing + Madonna debut Like a Virgin
on and on
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I can't get past the made-up name and the slut culture these bimbos are promoting. Bad role models.
Agreed .......... I am so glad I don't have a daughter.
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I think most red-blooded guys would let Lady Gaga ride their Guzzis. :whip2:
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I think a Guzzi ad made from outtakes of this video could sell more bikes than Ewan MacGregor's musings about the brand!
I found Gaga repellent in the Super Bowl. (Not rappellent, ha ha.) Even more than in her old meat dress.
I don't follow this stuff, and don't like what I've seen of her persona, but she cuts a good figure on a Guzzi.
Go figure.
Moto
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Lady Ga Ga knows how to make the most of her asssetts.
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I can't get past the made-up name and the slut culture these bimbos are promoting. Bad role models.
WTF? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Where do you get that? From that video??? That would seem the most shallow surface analysis of the song or video possible.
I'm not particularly into her music or much anything pop, but there is a hell of a lot more behind her image and her music then is seen at a glance.
The song in question is an analysis of a relationship, and likely the potential toxic effects of one. It's an analysis of the attraction many girls have to a bad boy or "real man".
The video certainly doesn't seem to be pushing any sexual agenda.
Now if we're shallowly reacting to just the images (how she's dressed or how she is dancing) there are far more overtly sexual images in pop culture.
But I'd say if anything what I've seen of her image it's one with a message of feminist empowerment which is pretty much an F U to the attitude of "slut culture" which is really a mysoginist and archaic attitude that applauds men for their sexual "conquests" while attempting to shame women for any sign of their sexuality.
From what I understand Lady Gaga is a talented professional with an extreme work ethic and an attitude of inclusion. A woman who once suffered from body image disorders and who supports youth truth charitable works for homeless youth, mental disorders, LGBT causes, and special Olympics.
WTF ALL THAT has to do with "slut culture" I'll be f'd if I can see.
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Gotta give you the clap for that post, Kev.
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:1: to you Kev. I'm way too old to be a fan, but I am anyway. She's a hard working, highly talented performer.
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I think most red-blooded guys would let Lady Gaga ride their Guzzis. :whip2:
:bike-037:
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WTF? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
From what I understand Lady Gaga is a talented professional with an extreme work ethic and an attitude of inclusion. A woman who once suffered from body image disorders and who supports youth truth charitable works for homeless youth, mental disorders, LGBT causes, and special Olympics.
and to top it all off she lives/owns the home of the late Frank Zappa!!!
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life"
... Frank Zappa
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So some of you guys aren't gonna be too happy to learn we have booked Lady Gaga to perform Saturday night at the Knotanational :shocked:
Dusty
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So some of you guys aren't gonna be too happy to learn we have booked Lady Gaga to perform Saturday night at the Knotanational :shocked:
Dusty
Now that might make me show up. I enjoy some of her work (not all) , but watching the audience would be unmatched entertainment! :popcorn:
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Now that might make me show up. I enjoy some of her work (not all) , but watching the audience would be unmatched entertainment! :popcorn:
She promised to show up as Stefani Germanotta , brunette , very little makeup , nice sundress, after I mentioned preferring a more natural look :laugh:
Dusty
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I was just about to post this. She'll be performing with Metallica at the Grammies.
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WTF? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Where do you get that? From that video??? That would seem the most shallow surface analysis of the song or video possible.
I'm not particularly into her music or much anything pop, but there is a hell of a lot more behind her image and her music then is seen at a glance.
The song in question is an analysis of a relationship, and likely the potential toxic effects of one. It's an analysis of the attraction many girls have to a bad boy or "real man".
The video certainly doesn't seem to be pushing any sexual agenda.
Now if we're shallowly reacting to just the images (how she's dressed or how she is dancing) there are far more overtly sexual images in pop culture.
But I'd say if anything what I've seen of her image it's one with a message of feminist empowerment which is pretty much an F U to the attitude of "slut culture" which is really a mysoginist and archaic attitude that applauds men for their sexual "conquests" while attempting to shame women for any sign of their sexuality.
From what I understand Lady Gaga is a talented professional with an extreme work ethic and an attitude of inclusion. A woman who once suffered from body image disorders and who supports youth truth charitable works for homeless youth, mental disorders, LGBT causes, and special Olympics.
WTF ALL THAT has to do with "slut culture" I'll be f'd if I can see.
My comment was about the genre, not any particular video. I stated my opinion clearly, but I'll restate it: I think the current pop culture promotes slutty sexualization. No need to carpet - F-bomb me about it.
And there's a big difference between feminism and sexualization. Not even in the same discussion.
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Well I have a problem with the mysoginist aspect of the very term "slut culture". It's about as one-sided as "rape culture."
That said you clearly included this video and more broadly Lady Gaga with the equally unfair characterization "these bimbos are promoting" and "bad role models".
I think it's unfair to include her in this.
I can't see how she's a bad role model for strong women.
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I can't believe manly men who ride fire breathing machines are discussing a dramatic female pop performer... :grin: I see it as "art" having sexual overtones ...Being a teen or young adult is all about hormonal drive and that's the message in her songs and performances...
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I'm waiting for someone to come on here and claim the bike.
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The Guzzi and the Gretsch are the only things worth a damn in that video.
Paul B :boozing:
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I can't believe manly men who ride fire breathing machines are discussing a dramatic female pop performer... :grin: I see it as "art" having sexual overtones ...Being a teen or young adult is all about hormonal drive and that's the message in her songs and performances...
Well, I think she's a little deeper than that. For sure, she *is* a major talent, whether you like her or not. She can do about any musical idiom, and do it very well. I thought the SB show was one of the best of the last few years. <shrug>
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Maybe some of the old fogeys (me included) like the work she did with Tony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNh7xyLwwLc and I for one think that if you get to share stage and song with Tony , you are a special person/ performer... or maybe I am biased because she is Italian...we stick together
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Like her or not she has one hell of a set of pipes. Any singer that can jam with Tony Bennett is no slouch at the craft. The video reminds me of back in the day when MTV was Music Television. Fun times :thumb:
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Agreed .......... I am so glad I don't have a daughter.
The guys who are all "Oh I love this stuff" wouldn't want their daughters emulating these "strong women" either, I suspect. I hope.
Lannis
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I have to agree with Kev M on this one. I had always written Lady Gaga off,due to her outlandish costumes and figured she was just another superficial plastic pop star.
After listening to her closely doing a couple of interviews, for a young lady in her position in a brutal industry, she sounds like she's got her sh*t together,jmho.
Kelly
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Lack of proper gear, hello?
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Well I have a problem with the mysoginist aspect of the very term "slut culture". It's about as one-sided as "rape culture."
That said you clearly included this video and more broadly Lady Gaga with the equally unfair characterization "these bimbos are promoting" and "bad role models".
I think it's unfair to include her in this.
I can't see how she's a bad role model for strong women.
No, what's clear here is that you're rewriting my comment and bashing me for what you've twisted it into. I'm not going to persue this with you.
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I still like watching her show her assets. She is making the most of it while she is still young and hot. Once she get old with cellulite, she will have to live off of her investments. Those are not nearly as attractive.
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Maybe some of the old fogeys (me included) like the work she did with Tony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNh7xyLwwLc and I for one think that if you get to share stage and song with Tony , you are a special person/ performer... or maybe I am biased because she is Italian...we stick together
I've also seen her perform with Elton John, both playing and singing together. Obviously both talented and respected.
RK, I'm sorry if I'm misinterpreting your words, that's not my intent. I'll drop it too.
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I don't know about you guys but I am ready for spring.
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The guys who are all "Oh I love this stuff" wouldn't want their daughters emulating these "strong women" either, I suspect. I hope.
Lannis
You probably said the same thing about Ludwig van Beethoven when he was popular👍
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The " strong women " of my generation didn't need to show as much skin as they do now . Grace Slick , Janis Joplin , Lydia Pence ....
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The " strong women " of my generation didn't need to show as much skin as they do now . Grace Slick , Janis Joplin , Lydia Pence ....
you must be kidding. Janice and Grace were unabashed about sex and sang 4 letter lyrics frequently. Grace also posed for nude photos.
But neither could dance or perform with the talent of Gaga. Janice was a blues singer and Grace was folk singer, they turned to rock & roll.
Gaga is multi talented writer, singer, dancer and performer.
I like all 3 but I can't say I agree with the implication about skin and sexuality. Janice and Grace were much more scandalous for the time.
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Lady Gaga had an interesting early on. This is from Wiki:
Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta[2] was born on March 28, 1986, at the Lenox Hill Hospital on Manhattan's Upper East Side[3] to a Catholic family.[4] She is the elder daughter of Cynthia Louise "Cindy" (Bissett) and Internet entrepreneur Joseph "Joe" Germanotta.[2][5][6] She continues to practice Catholicism.[7][8] Gaga is of 75 percent Italian descent, and also has French Canadian ancestry.[9][10][11] Gaga's sister Natali is a fashion student.[12] Despite her affluent upbringing on Manhattan's Upper West Side, she says that her parents "both came from lower-class families, so we've worked for everything—my mother worked eight to eight out of the house, in telecommunications, and so did my father."[13][14] From age eleven, she attended the Convent of the Sacred Heart, a private, all-girls Roman Catholic school on Manhattan's Upper East Side.[15][16][17] She described her academic life in high school as "very dedicated, very studious, very disciplined" but also "a bit insecure". "I used to get made fun of for being either too provocative or too eccentric, so I started to tone it down. I didn't fit in, and I felt like a freak."[18] In 2014 Gaga said she was raped at the age of 19. She stated, "I went through some horrific things that I'm able to laugh [at] now, because I've gone through a lot of mental and physical therapy and emotional therapy to heal over the years".[19] Gaga later said that she suffers from posttraumatic stress disorder because of the rape, and that support from doctors, family, and friends "really saved my life".[20]
"It is a daily effort for me ... to regulate my nervous system so that I don’t panic over circumstances that to many would seem like normal life situations. Examples are leaving the house or being touched by strangers who simply want to share their enthusiasm for my music".[21]
—Gaga on her struggle with PTSD
Gaga began playing the piano at the age of four, wrote her first piano ballad at thirteen, and started to perform at open mic nights by the age of fourteen.[22] She performed lead roles in high school productions, including Adelaide in Guys and Dolls and Philia in A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum.[23] She also appeared in a very small role as a mischievous classmate in the television drama series The Sopranos in a 2001 episode titled "The Telltale Moozadell". She auditioned for New York shows without success.[13][24] She also studied method acting at the Lee Strasberg Theatre and Film Institute for ten years.[25][26] After high school, her mother encouraged her to apply for the Collaborative Arts Project 21 (CAP21), a musical theater training conservatory at New York University's Tisch School of the Arts.[13] One of 20 students to gain early admission, she, aged 17, lived in an NYU dorm on 11th Street.[23] In addition to sharpening her songwriting skills, she composed essays and analytical papers on art, religion, social issues, and politics, including a thesis on pop artists Spencer Tunick and Damien Hirst.[27][28] She also auditioned for various roles and won the part of an unsuspecting diner customer for MTV's Boiling Points, a prank reality television show.[13][29]
GliderJohn
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From Lannis:
The guys who are all "Oh I love this stuff" wouldn't want their daughters emulating these "strong women" either, I suspect. I hope.
Lannis
Guess we all have different outlooks on life. If I had a daughter that had performed that show dressed in the same kind of costuming at a Super Bowl I would have been Damn proud of her. It's performing arts, not a morals show.
GuzziJohn
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You probably said the same thing about Ludwig van Beethoven when he was popular👍
I don't remember. I was just thinking, though, how silly (foolish?) is it to be sitting around in the middle of winter saying "This woman is really talented and looks good" and someone else says "I don't think so, I don't like her singing and she acts like a slut" and someone else saying "No she isn't, and you must be stupid or something" and someone else says "She's a wonderful, powerful woman" and someone else says "I think So and So is better" and someone else says "No they're not".
Like there's some objective measure of talent, beauty, other than one's testicles when it comes to that subject ....
Lannis
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From Lannis:
Guess we all have different outlooks on life. If I had a daughter that had performed that show dressed in the same kind of costuming at a Super Bowl I would have been Damn proud of her. It's performing arts, not a morals show.
GuzziJohn
Says the man with no daughter prancing around in the Super Bowl half time .... :bow: :laugh:
Lannis
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you must be kidding. Janice and Grace were unabashed about sex and sang 4 letter lyrics frequently. Grace also posed for nude photos.
But neither could dance or perform with the talent of Gaga. Janice was a blues singer and Grace was folk singer, they turned to rock & roll.
Gaga is multi talented writer, singer, dancer and performer.
I like all 3 but I can't say I agree with the implication about skin and sexuality. Janice and Grace were much more scandalous for the time.
Janice also posed nude as well!
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<sarcasm>
Yeah, it would suck if one of my daughters was:
* happy with herself
* dedicated enough to pursue something with such passion
* successful enough to be outspoken in her beliefs
* kind and generous enough to co-found and sponsor countless charities
* talented enough to enjoy the adoration of millions of fans
* yet still love her parents enough to give them a shout out live while performing for some 30M viewers at the super bowl
</sarcasm off>
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Well after all the "uproar" over Gaga...what about the Moto Guzzi in the video?
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FWIW, I see her work as playing with the reflexive power and danger that comes from female sexuality. I could be just projecting how I've seen Madonna's work, since I see them as in the same tradition and LG hasn't interested me musically. Her history of trauma adds the intensity and pain to the performances. Both LG and Madonna unleashed the tiger and rode it for their own ends rather than succumb to it like has happened to so many. I did say, FWIW!