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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: arveno on February 27, 2017, 09:33:30 PM

Title: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet failure ?
Post by: arveno on February 27, 2017, 09:33:30 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-Stelvio-1200-/361913509786?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5443b9e79a:g:-lYAAOSwUEVYCwFc&item=361913509786


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Moto-Guzzi-Stelvio-ntx-/351993104658?forcerrptr=true&hash=item51f46c8912:g:7L4AAOSwOgdYoieL&item=351993104658

Title: Re: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet failure ?
Post by: pete roper on February 27, 2017, 09:42:44 PM

Only way to find out is to ask them. Prices look a bit steep to me for small tank Stelvios in the US anyway, especially ones that old.

Pete

Title: Re: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet failure ?
Post by: guzzinka on February 27, 2017, 10:15:54 PM

I dont think I've ever seen an ad that referenced the failure or roller fix, hard to believe the news hasn't gotten out yet (or worse, problem bikes being unscrupulously unloaded knowingly)....

Title: Re: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet faNilure ?
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on February 28, 2017, 06:48:22 AM

There's an '09 Griso in NC on mgnoc classifieds with low miles and no mention of roller tappets.  If any NC guzzimen know the seller, might want to suggest that giving the tappet status update is the right thing to do.  The seller might not even know there's a big problem (or it may be fixed already and the bike is more salable).

http://www.mgnoc.com/classifieds.html

Title: Re: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet failure ?
Post by: Caffeineo on February 28, 2017, 09:32:52 AM

There was a 2004 Jackal just sold on eBay with a single plate clutch. Not mentioned in the listing but I asked the seller and he replied it had the single plate clutch and that the PO declared the hydro update was done. Bike had something like 6K miles on it........ No way to contact buyer to let him know. So it really is buyer beware.....  :sad:

Title: Re: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet failure ?
Post by: Dilliw on February 28, 2017, 09:44:13 AM

When I see them on Ebay I try and post a question on it (rollers or hydro).  I have had one seller take an add down so I saved at least one unsuspecting buyer.

Title: Re: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet failure ?
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on February 28, 2017, 07:53:43 PM

  6 K is about the average life of an original Hydro engine before it is in danger of catastrophic damage.
  I would be extremely suspicious.

Title: Re: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet failure ?
Post by: John in PA on February 28, 2017, 08:02:09 PM

Re: Stelvios, any dealer can get in Guzzi's system with the VIN number and find out if cam upgrades are done or not, and which ones.  Don't know what records (if any) are available on the hydros. 

I love my '09 Stelvio, and had the rollerization done this past fall with 11000 miles on the clock (just barely showing a bit of wear, so no harm done.)  I figured if I keep it, which I intend, I'm all set, and if I should decide to sell at some point, I can do so with a clear conscience.

Title: Re: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet failure ?
Post by: oldbike54 on February 28, 2017, 08:08:56 PM

Quote from: Caffeineo on February 28, 2017, 09:32:52 AM

There was a 2004 Jackal just sold on eBay with a single plate clutch. Not mentioned in the listing but I asked the seller and he replied it had the single plate clutch and that the PO declared the hydro update was done. Bike had something like 6K miles on it........ No way to contact buyer to let him know. So it really is buyer beware.....  :sad:

 Uh , no such thing as a 2004 Jackal .

 Dusty

Title: Re: are these sellers aware of the flat tappet failure ?
Post by: Caffeineo on March 01, 2017, 06:34:13 AM

Quote from: oldbike54 on February 28, 2017, 08:08:56 PM

Uh , no such thing as a 2004 Jackal .

 Dusty

The single front disk and lack of tachometer just made me think it was a Jackal. Someone got it for $2750. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Moto-Guzzi-CALIFORNIA-/272561542846?ul_noapp=true&nma=true&si=MXpPsTWpPCadP%252FCWu6SNL2U%252BkYk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Moto-Guzzi-CALIFORNIA-/272561542846?ul_noapp=true&nma=true&si=MXpPsTWpPCadP%252FCWu6SNL2U%252BkYk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
Good deal until the clutch goes out.