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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: NC Steve on March 01, 2017, 05:21:45 PM
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I was very surprised to learn yesterday that, with the coming of a new coordinator, the rally is being moved this year from its longtime home at Blue Ridge MC Campground in Cruso, to the Iron Horse Lodge, in Stecoah, near Robbinsville, about 75 miles closer to the Tennessee line. I don't know quite how to feel about it. Actually, I do know how I feel, but let's see what happens, time will tell...
http://ironhorsenc.com
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At least I won't wreck on the way there again.
Dean
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I was very surprised to learn yesterday that, with the coming of a new coordinator, the rally is being moved this year from its longtime home at Blue Ridge MC Campground in Cruso, to the Iron Horse Lodge, in Stecoah, near Robbinsville, about 75 miles closer to the Tennessee line. I don't know quite how to feel about this. Actually, I know exactly how I feel about it, but let's see what happens, time will tell...
http://ironhorsenc.com
I enjoy Phil and the Blue Ridge Campground , the location and surrounding sites. They cater to our wants and needs 100% Did a look at Iron Horse web site on line and appears to snazzy for my tastes, being the cheap bastard I am.
Just also wondering if it might be the Party grounds for the people that don't go to Sturgis S.D. but want a place to party?
I might see about Wisconsin Rally same time. Rally fee gives camping and 2 meals, so not many trips to the blood bank to pay for it. My location puts both about the same distance for my travel
Leroy in Cleveland
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Leroy, you'll get much more than 2 meals and camping in Wisconsin. Trust me. Give more blood, it's going for you, up to a certain point.
I'm sort of planning a visit to this new NC spring rally after the KnotaNational in Kansas. It's right on the way home.
Not that I'm into snazzy, but ....
I might see about Wisconsin Rally same time. Rally fee gives camping and 2 meals, so not many trips to the blood bank to pay for it.
Leroy in Cleveland
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Dang, Hope I can make it.... The old location was easy access for me, since I work weekends, it was easy to swing by~~ even if we werent camping or staying long... Thats more of a haul. I guess time will tell.
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Yep, checked the maps, that's a 4-5hr round trip plus 'bullshitting time' around the site... looks like I'm out
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Phil and the whole batch there are low key. The camp grounds is beautiful. Any road round there can't be beat. Blue Ridge Parkway right up a twisty road -- Cherokee, Smokies, and Dragon to the right; high mount Pisgah to the left. Musical crick. Big trees. Nice lodge with wide screen and wifi. No cars allowed. Nice covered snack bar. Good breakfast. Pond for contemplation. Cabins, camp sites, showers.... what exactly was missing that the event needed to be moved?
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At least I won't wreck on the way there again.
Dean
Dean, how are doing, after your little mishap on the way to the rally last summer?
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Odd.
IronHorse does not have as much camping space.
It has more lodges and has numerous RV spots. But I could care less about that.
Indoor eating. An odd setup were you have to plan your meals when you check in. Then when you go to get your meal, they are out of what was 'planned', so you have to get something else. Didn't work well when I was there.
The location is good, I guess. There will be 'flatulent pipes lose rights' people there.
They have a band come in sometimes. This is ok, if you are not wanting to have a conversation with friend that you have not seen for a year.
I prefer Cruso, for sure.
Well, there will be empty cabins at Cruso that weekend. :boozing:
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On their website, looks like the dates are August 4-6
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I prefer Cruso, for sure.
Well, there will be empty cabins at Cruso that weekend. :boozing:
That's for sure. A call to Blue Ridge to reserve a cabin is how I originally heard about the rally being moved from there, and a visit to Iron Horse's website confirmed it.
I've wondered a little how it might go if all the folks that can't do Iron Horse still got together in Cruso...
And Mark Tenney is doing a new Moto Guzzi Spring Campout, May 12th-14th, at High Country MC Campground, up near the Wilkesboro/Boone area. I'm planning to check that gathering out, and have been to the campground several times in the past; nice place, just way the hell out in the country, miles from civilization. http://www.highcountrymotorcyclecamp.com
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Dean, how are doing, after your little mishap on the way to the rally last summer?
I'm all healed up now, still have a slight twinge in the ankle once in a while just have to live with it.
Thanks for asking.
Dean
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I'll probably just go to Cruso that weekend anyway :wink:
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I'll probably just go to Cruso that weekend anyway :wink:
See you there.
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I'll probably just go to Cruso that weekend anyway :wink:
I'm thinking the same.
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I'm thinking the same.
I'll probably add 2 more to the group as well.
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Been to Blue Ridge Campground about 10 years in a row with a Honda group. Nice location and nice campground, flat and smooth with grass to set the tent on. Bath house could use an update (last time there about 2008. Maybe have since then.) Went to the Iron horse 2 times. Nice folks running it. Too foo-foo for me. As mentioned not much camping space. Seems aimed at the Atlanta life saving riders. Nice road to Robbinsville. Had Nascar on the giant screen TV at an obnoxious sound level. Haven't been back and don't intend to go back. My Honda group hasn't been back either.
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It will be Blue Ridge Campground for me this year also. The Iron Horse Lodge was not for me, Kickstand around the corner fit me much better.
Grant
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I just talked to Phil's son down at Blue Ridge to reserve a cabin, and they still have other vacancies available. They normally booked them quickly in the past though, so if you're interested in getting one, you might want to call ahead fairly soon, just in case. Here's their site again, for the address and phone #.
http://blueridgemotorcyclecamp.com
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The Guzzi clan is not a big one and there is always a problem getting individuals to step forward and organize meetings.
Looks like we have here a situation where a new person has stepped up and tried to do something different. Maybe he/she should have taken a vote (maybe they did).
Some folks don't like the decision so they are not going to participate in what would already be a small gathering.
Would there be any sense in going with the flow on this for one time? Go to the new location and try it. These gatherings are more about the getting together than they are the campsite or the food aren't they? While there, you could lobby to go back to the old Cruso location next year.
I can see that this split could cause some unnecessary ill feelings that may linger for a while. Why not support somebody trying to do something? Stick together.
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The Guzzi clan is not a big one and there is always a problem getting individuals to step forward and organize meetings.
Looks like we have here a situation where a new person has stepped up and tried to do something different. Maybe he/she should have taken a vote (maybe they did).
Some folks don't like the decision so they are not going to participate in what would already be a small gathering.
Would there be any sense in going with the flow on this for one time? Go to the new location and try it. These gatherings are more about the getting together than they are the campsite or the food aren't they? While there, you could lobby to go back to the old Cruso location next year.
I can see that this split could cause some unnecessary ill feelings that may linger for a while. Why not support somebody trying to do something? Stick together.
Very well said, and true. Thanks.
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The Guzzi clan is not a big one and there is always a problem getting individuals to step forward and organize meetings.
Looks like we have here a situation where a new person has stepped up and tried to do something different. Maybe he/she should have taken a vote (maybe they did).
Some folks don't like the decision so they are not going to participate in what would already be a small gathering.
Would there be any sense in going with the flow on this for one time? Go to the new location and try it. These gatherings are more about the getting together than they are the campsite or the food aren't they? While there, you could lobby to go back to the old Cruso location next year.
I can see that this split could cause some unnecessary ill feelings that may linger for a while. Why not support somebody trying to do something? Stick together.
I was thinking the same thing. I won't be able to attend, not from loyalty to Blue Ridge or because I don't like the venue... but because it's been moved from my backyard to way out in the middle of nowhere... I've only been able to attend in the past because it's an easy daytrip for me and I know plenty of non-interstate routes to get there.
But I don't think ppl should host a NAR in the old location and split attendance if they would otherwise attend the entire weekend, camp etc...
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Well said. Whoever stepped up to the plate deserves some gratitude. As far as I know the folks that agree to assume the responsibility to organize this or any other MG event are making a sacrifice that most attendees never experience and consequently don't realize the amount of effort that goes into a successful event. And as illustrated in this thread some prefer to boycott their efforts simply because it doesn't align with their personal desires. Well here's my 2 cents: don't go!
-KBuck
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Well said. Whoever stepped up to the plate deserves some gratitude. As far as I know the folks that agree to assume the responsibility to organize this or any other MG event are making a sacrifice that most attendees never experience and consequently don't realize the amount of effort that goes into a successful event. And as illustrated in this thread some prefer to boycott their efforts simply because it doesn't align with their personal desires. Well here's my 2 cents: don't go!
-KBuck
That's exactly what some might be doing Mr. Buck. That is , simply not going. I certainly don't see why anyone would get their panties in a knot just because some of us like the BRMC near Cruso. It's not a "mutiny" as someone suggested, it's just a few folks who like to go to Cruso the first weekend in August.
No one is trying to undermine the "official" NC rally either. Y'all have fun wherever that is and give us some nice pictures and reports :wink:
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Since I couldn't find a newer thread, I thought I'd post here.
Anyone know if the Ironhorse rally is off? It's no longer on MGNOC...
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It is on Iron Horse camp schedule for Aug 4-6, that would mean it's on.
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It is on Iron Horse camp schedule for Aug 4-6, that would mean it's on.
Hmmm. But if it's not on MGNOC, does that mean it's been de-listed? I think it was on there back in the spring....
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I have to work that weekend. :angry: Maybe next year...
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I heard that some of the regulars are still planning to meet at the Blue Ridge Motorcycle Campground on that same weekend
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Hmmm. But if it's not on MGNOC, does that mean it's been de-listed? I think it was on there back in the spring....
I looked at the past newsletters and did not see it.
Anyone else note that Iron Horse can't spell 'Motor Goosy' right? :boozing:
Wonder what it all means?
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The Blue Ridge campground has an official Moto Guzzi sign in the lodge. <shrug> That's good enough for me. :smiley:
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Anyone call the state reps?
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Since I couldn't find a newer thread, I thought I'd post here.
Anyone know if the Ironhorse rally is off? It's no longer on MGNOC...
Joe, I've checked repeatedly over recent months, but never did see the NC Rally listed on the MCNOC calendar; Iron Horse list, yes, MCNOC, no. I've never even heard who the new rally master(s) are, after Mark and Barbara retired last year. All of the regulars that I know personally are still planning to meet up at Blue Ridge MC Camp the 1st weekend in August, as always.
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I know how I feel about it... it sucks. Iron Horse is a freaking spread out resort. All the intimacy of Cruso is lost. You could easily have a 150 bikes with room to spare at Cruso and all the bikes are in one area making for a nice place to rally. The first NC Guzzi Rally I went to was a Ferguson and since about 1993 or 94 its been at Cruso. Also Cruso is close to Asheville which a great place to visit. . It will be interesting to see what long timers at Curso will say. I'd say the feel and camaraderie will not be there. Not that Guzzi rallies do not like other bikes it just that this place is so freaking big it the Guzzi rally with be all spread out and lost.
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Don't know yet if I can but I am going to try and attend the rally at Iron Horse.
It can be great! Some nice roads and places to go!
I'll probably bring the Stelvio if I come and I will offer to lead a nice gravel road ride for anyone else interested.
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Joe, I've checked repeatedly over recent months, but never did see the NC Rally listed on the MCNOC calendar; Iron Horse list, yes, MCNOC, no. I've never even heard who the new rally master(s) are, after Mark and Barbara retired last year. All of the regulars that I know personally are still planning to meet up at Blue Ridge MC Camp the 1st weekend in August, as always.
Apparently, MGNOC is asleep at the wheel?
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Apparently, MGNOC is asleep at the wheel?
I don't know about that.
I think it's up to the Rally organizer to notify the MGNOC of its intent to have a rally and request to be listed on the MGNOC's website.
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I've been camping/cabining at BRMC for over 20 years. I have been waiting for my first Guzzi get together, and expect I will be at BRMC again for this. Phil and family always make you feel like family as did the previous owners. Some rituals are habitual.
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Looks like it has not received the official "Seal of Frank" approval. So the Iron Horse NC Guzzi Rally is not a MGNOC rally.
Oh "The Horror The Horror" :evil: (apologies to Joesph Conrad).
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One would think that the new NC rep should have been publicized, and some kind of announcement was to have been made officially about who, when and where. I've seen Mark twice @ Va Guzzi rally and Airhead rally in Ferguson, and he hasn't much to say one way or another. If you can't confirm from the current rep because you can't find his name, then someone somewhere hasn't reported the change in rep or venue. How was it discovered that there was a change in location if not the news letter? I no longer subscribe due to attitude of mgmt in raising pricing as well as reducing costs by not printing and mailing. In other words increasing his net.
Until I hear otherwise, I'll likely go the BRMC. See you there Muley, and whomever else shows, and I'll probably have 2-3 others with me.
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I've been to both campgrounds many times. BRP is much better suited for a rally. Better and available tent camping, large covered area for outdoor eating and protection from the rain, more cabins at good prices. If I go I'll go to BRP.
Bill
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One would think that the new NC rep should have been publicized, and some kind of announcement was to have been made officially about who.
FYI
http://www.mgnoc.com/staff_and_reps.html
NORTH CAROLINA REP (WESTERN)
Roger Kersch
285 Big Snowbird Road
Robbinsville, North Carolina 28771
ph. (828) 735-9711
roger.kersch@gmail.com
NORTH CAROLINA REPS (EASTERN)
Barbara Nowell / Mark Tenney
300 Meadow Lane
Chapel Hill, North Carolina 27514
barmar@mindspring.com
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I talked to Mark this afternoon and he they plan on being at Blue Ridge MC weekend of Aug 4-6 like always. They are leaving at sunrise Friday morning.
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I emailed the WNC rep to see what the plan was. Iron Horse sounds like a cool place to check out.
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Roger Kersch of the Western NC Guzzi group just now responded to my inquiry to affirm that the Stecoah event is a definite go. There was a problem with the MGNOC email address so the notice has been delayed in being announced.
Iron Horse M/C Lodge and Resort
August 3-6
Stecoah NC
NC State Road 28 close to Fontana
http://ironhorsenc.com/
I've been by that place many times but I've never stayed there. Wow, it's been there 14 years. Looks pretty nice. Full restaurant too. Cabins, lodge rooms.
Fabulous riding in that area. Deal's Gap just down the road, Cherohala Skyway and many small, great roads.
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So, there are 2 rallies going on the same weekend? Having been to both campgrounds, I would go to the Blue Ridge Campground.
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When I talked to Mark the other day he said he was not going to any NC rally Aug 4-6 weekend. He said he was just going to BRMC that weekend. He specifically said he was not engaging in a rally. I am not his spokesman and have not talked to him since last week. But I remember he chose his words carefully. I do not think there are 2 rallies that weekend. I think judging from what I have read in this thread that a number of folks (including myself) prefer BRMC. But others are going to Iron Horse. :popcorn:
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Roger Kersch of the Western NC Guzzi group just now responded to my inquiry to affirm that the Stecoah event is a definite go. There was a problem with the MGNOC email address so the notice has been delayed in being announced.
Iron Horse M/C Lodge and Resort
August 3-6
Stecoah NC
NC State Road 28 close to Fontana
http://ironhorsenc.com/
I've been by that place many times but I've never stayed there. Wow, it's been there 14 years. Looks pretty nice. Full restaurant too. Cabins, lodge rooms.
Fabulous riding in that area. Deal's Gap just down the road, Cherohala Skyway and many small, great roads.
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WOW! That place looks really nice. Sounds like I'm in! Thanks for sending the pics. Should be a great time, lots of good riding spots!
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I don't know if the new V7-3 will be here in time but I am planning on the BR campground. I might try to get a cabin if anybody wants to split one.
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Roger Kersch sounds interesting.
Roger has several Guzzi models. He says he is supplying craft beer for everyone at the get-together !
I'm hoping I have everything squared away so I can join the group there.
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Roger Kersch sounds interesting.
Roger has several Guzzi models. He says he is supplying craft beer for everyone at the get-together !
I'm hoping I have everything squared away so I can join the group there.
I just heard back from Roger, he does sound cool! He is going to post about it here soon. Definitely going to check it out.
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I see that Tripadvisor rates Iron Horse as 5 stars out of 5 stars!
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g49483-d1891593-Reviews-Iron_Horse_Motorcycle_Lodge-Robbinsville_North_Carolina.html
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A true Guzzi owner would not know that. Flip phones don't get trip advisor.
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A true Guzzi owner would not know that. Flip phones don't get trip advisor.
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Trip advisor is looking at facilities and decor and food service. Trip advisor is not about M/Cist especially when looking at an environment for a Guzzi rally to be held in a Harley Luxury Resort.
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Bump
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One of the fellas encouraged me look for this thread and leave a message.
Yes, so true, Magoos'. We carry on. I volunteered last year to take over from Mark and Barb and so it is. So I was late getting the word out because of my wrong email prowess to FW's old address. Figgered that out and so with the great internet we can pull it off anyway.
One reason I took hosting over was it is near my 2nd home and shop where i keep a lot of junk good for our event. I'll bring coolers, water jugs, ice tea, extra tents, a table or two, beer, food, giveaways yadda yadda easy to do when I can truck it over Stecoah mountain from famously stuck-in-time Robbinsville. I'll have a van and trailer load of this stuff. I have lots o stuff to bring. I'm not sure how it will turn out, I am precooking 40 lbs of breaded chicken parts that we can heat up with killer Boom-Boom sauce and I will bring a 40 gal cooler full of $$$ craft beer from my store, some of which will curl the hair in your nose and ears (lots of that around!) some giveaways and door prize stuff (y'all pack some too would yaz) I can bring a lot of stuff so YOU CAN RIDE here instead of piloting your crappy old-folks CRV or Subaru and have a great time. Anyone wants to come early to help, come to Rville on August 1 I'll put yaz up with me at Big Snowbird, it would be nice to have some company, plus my knee is screwed up, I just had an MRI so I am hobbling around.
The other reason is the riding in and out of the area. If you ride in and out these ways, you could park your bike all weekend and be happy! From Arkansas, you unfortunates that live there, take the Cherohala Skyway, even at night is great. Beware decreasing radius curves. Other unfortunates living in Ohio come thru Deals Gap. DONT do this if it is a dark dark night and you are a tired old fart in the waning years of your motorbiking career. It is hypnotizing and MAJOR dangerous. Georgia saps don't need any direction, they already know about crashing. Flatlanders from the south take I-26 or I-75 and thru Murphy on US74 to SR28. OR stay on I-75 to exit 36 and to Tellico from there. A challenge in the dark dark. Easterners get on the Blue Ridge Skyway, off at Cherokee, onward on the Smoky Mountain Expressway to SR28 north. I came to March Moto Madness in 2016 and came across a dead guy and his wadded up R1200 on the Skyway. I put a tarp over him. Not pretty. He was from the panhandle, and having too much fun. It was a decreasing radius took him out. So be thar or b squar, more later. Let me know if you can help. Gonz ......and be careful
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Hey Gonz, welcome to the forum. I may make it up, if I have any free money left.
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So the Blue Ridge get together is a non-rally rally? Been there and done that. Got the Tee shirts!
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Did I hear that correctly Rodger " FREE BEER"
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really wish I could make it, but it's just too far for a day trip and work eats 6.5/7 days a week :undecided:
will try to make it next year, I'll strap a 1/6bbl keg to the side of the breva
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really wish I could make it, but it's just too far for a day trip and work eats 6.5/7 days a week :undecided:
will try to make it next year, I'll strap a 1/6bbl keg to the side of the breva
More than a few of the NC Guzzi Rally regulars are meeting at Blue Ridge MC Campground in Cruso the same weekend, as always.
You and all others are very much welcome to join us. :thumb:
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As far as I am concerned it ought to be called the Eastern Tennessee-North Georgia-Far western North Carolina rally. Heck Louisville KY is the same distance to Iron Horse as is Raleigh NC. Might as well add Eastern Kentucky to the rally name also. :wink: :laugh:
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More than a few of the NC Guzzi Rally regulars are meeting at Blue Ridge MC Campground in Cruso the same weekend, as always.
You and all others are very much welcome to join us. :thumb:
I am definitely not passing judgement on you or others who choose to do this, but I personally don't agree with 'splitting' the rally because of dissatisfaction with the new venue. I own a brewery just minutes off the parkway, I have recommended and sent many riders to the BRMC because I think it is a great place... I have never been to Iron Horse, so I do not have a strong opinion on it... Yet like many others, the name, the reports of blasting NASCAR races on the TV's(tv at a bike campground?!?), and the Harley-centered look & feel are a little offputting to me... But if I COULD get there, I would, at least to give it a fair shake.
What I don't understand are those who are making multi-day trips to attend a 'Guzzi Rally' opting to skip the actual 'Guzzi rally' and going to BRMC... In my mind, the community is small enough that we need to stick together... not reduce attendance at both the 'official' rally and the 'NAR'
So, I will not be attending either... I won't be at Iron Horse because I can't get two days in a row off work right now. I won't be at BRMC because if it's not a 'Guzzi rally', I'd rather spend my very limited free time riding~~ tho I'll likely be riding in the same area.
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In my mind, the community is small enough that we need to stick together...
It's not like the riding area is worse at Iron Horse. I stayed there once when my brother and his son were attending a Nissan sport car rally. Nice place and I didn't suffer for lack of riding twisty roads.
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I am definitely not passing judgement on you or others who choose to do this, but I personally don't agree with 'splitting' the rally because of dissatisfaction with the new venue. I own a brewery just minutes off the parkway, I have recommended and sent many riders to the BRMC because I think it is a great place... I have never been to Iron Horse, so I do not have a strong opinion on it... Yet like many others, the name, the reports of blasting NASCAR races on the TV's(tv at a bike campground?!?), and the Harley-centered look & feel are a little offputting to me... But if I COULD get there, I would, at least to give it a fair shake.
What I don't understand are those who are making multi-day trips to attend a 'Guzzi Rally' opting to skip the actual 'Guzzi rally' and going to BRMC... In my mind, the community is small enough that we need to stick together... not reduce attendance at both the 'official' rally and the 'NAR'
So, I will not be attending either... I won't be at Iron Horse because I can't get two days in a row off work right now. I won't be at BRMC because if it's not a 'Guzzi rally', I'd rather spend my very limited free time riding~~ tho I'll likely be riding in the same area.
1st of all no one is claiming to having a "rally"at BRMC. They like at lot of us have been going BMRC for many of the past 2 decades. So it's not 2 rallies. You want the official MGNOC rally at Iron Horse then go with that and if you want to meet up with other folks going somewhere else because they want to connect with there old time buds at BRMC then thats cool also. If I was going this weekend, it would be to BRMC because of that and also it's a lot closer to home, the Parkway and I love to visit your home town, Asheville which I consider the best small city in NC and places beyond. There is nothing in the far western NC. And Deals Gap on a summer weekend is not my idea of a good ride. If you like a add some hippie city life with some the best food anywhere then Asheville is on the list. And its what 35 minute from Cruso. I've done the whole thing in the Fontana dam area a couple of time and the roads are just as good in and around Cruso and I prefer the view from the Parkway anyhow.
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I am definitely not passing judgement on you or others who choose to do this, but I personally don't agree with 'splitting' the rally because of dissatisfaction with the new venue. I own a brewery just minutes off the parkway, I have recommended and sent many riders to the BRMC because I think it is a great place... I have never been to Iron Horse, so I do not have a strong opinion on it... Yet like many others, the name, the reports of blasting NASCAR races on the TV's(tv at a bike campground?!?), and the Harley-centered look & feel are a little offputting to me... But if I COULD get there, I would, at least to give it a fair shake.
What I don't understand are those who are making multi-day trips to attend a 'Guzzi Rally' opting to skip the actual 'Guzzi rally' and going to BRMC... In my mind, the community is small enough that we need to stick together... not reduce attendance at both the 'official' rally and the 'NAR'
So, I will not be attending either... I won't be at Iron Horse because I can't get two days in a row off work right now. I won't be at BRMC because if it's not a 'Guzzi rally', I'd rather spend my very limited free time riding~~ tho I'll likely be riding in the same area.
I don't think anyone is interested in protesting the move, or "splitting the rally". We just enjoy camping at Blue Ridge in Cruso the first weekend of August, and would continue to do so if there was no NC Guzzi rally at all. I try to camp at Blue Ridge at least a couple of times every summer, but often ride to Willville, in VA, because it's closer, easier for me to get away to, and also an excellent campground. Don't let any sort of "rally loyalty" keep you from simply riding and camping with some friends in a great area. Staying home from either place doesn't solve anything, other than to leave a person with a frustrated and boring weekend. :undecided:
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I am definitely not passing judgement on you or others who choose to do this, but I personally don't agree with 'splitting' the rally because of dissatisfaction with the new venue. I own a brewery just minutes off the parkway, I have recommended and sent many riders to the BRMC because I think it is a great place... I have never been to Iron Horse, so I do not have a strong opinion on it... Yet like many others, the name, the reports of blasting NASCAR races on the TV's(tv at a bike campground?!?), and the Harley-centered look & feel are a little offputting to me... But if I COULD get there, I would, at least to give it a fair shake.
What I don't understand are those who are making multi-day trips to attend a 'Guzzi Rally' opting to skip the actual 'Guzzi rally' and going to BRMC... In my mind, the community is small enough that we need to stick together... not reduce attendance at both the 'official' rally and the 'NAR'
So, I will not be attending either... I won't be at Iron Horse because I can't get two days in a row off work right now. I won't be at BRMC because if it's not a 'Guzzi rally', I'd rather spend my very limited free time riding~~ tho I'll likely be riding in the same area.
Well said!
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OK, Mr Mayor, lol. Good buddy, not going to let you off the hook so easy now.
I did a google trip search. Asheville to Cruso is about 1 hour. Asheville to Stecoah is only 30 minutes more, 1 1/2 hour.
It's not that much additional time for you!
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Late news: Still not on MGNoC August either, I still sent it to FW's old address but he finally has it. How stupid. I read thru these posts and all is typical. Silly boys, i'm doing it here because Gonzo like in his neighborhood. And the area is super cool riding and I am totally familiar with it for 22 years. I'm bringing a pile of food, lots of strange high dollar beer, tickets, wristbands if there is more than 3 of us so we can find each other, and I don't know what else. I noted your experiences at Iron horse, food, tent camping etc I have never stayed there (why would I when I have a house toward the Skyway) so I will beware the facilities and offerings. If Kickstand is a better option for 2018 let's go there, nice lady very accommodating. Her hubby was road kill some years ago and she been carrying on just fine since. She has a setup might be more suitable for us to make our own meals under cover there and our 80 or so would be just right. I had considered that, but chose Iron horse for the variety of offerings, but a point was made, the tent camping area a fart will be heard by many, har har! I could really screw you all up and do it THERE next week. I have no obligation to Iron Horse and asked for nothing from them about accommodating us. The cabins are $$$ and there are expectations of the guests to spend other monies for food, gifts and whatnot. The dining is inside (??) which kinda takes the camp out of camping
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OK, Mr Mayor, lol. Good buddy, not going to let you off the hook so easy now.
I did a google trip search. Asheville to Cruso is about 1 hour. Asheville to Stecoah is only 30 minutes more, 1 1/2 hour.
It's not that much additional time for you!
cruso is 45min-1hr of twisty back country roads or the BRP-- Round Trip of <2hrs (plus hang out and shoot the shit time)
Iron Horse is 1:30 one way ONLY if you take the interstate straight there-- Round trip of 3 hrs, all on highway
I NEVER,EVER ride the interstate unless it's an emergency, I absolutely hate it, but any decent interesting route to Ironhorse that avoids the slab would give me a (very fun & nice) 2-3hr one-way trip
As it stands, I am lucky to ride my moto 3 hours a month... Getting away all day saturday is not an option for me... and I would sooner miss the rally than ride 3 hrs on the interstate.
If I were going to Cruso, I can get off work at 4pm, be at Cruso via BRP in about 35mins, and home by 10pm (I am back at work to open Sunday morning), all while enjoying beautiful scenery and back roads.
If I go to Ironhorse, I get off at 4pm, take a decent route to the rally, arrive at 6:30-7, hang out a max of 1-1.5hrs, and ride home white-knuckle in the dark on the interstate to get back by 10pm.
If I go to neither, I get off at 4pm, ride my bike on beautiful perfect WNC roads for 3hrs, and I'm home cooking dinner with my smokin hot girlfriend by 7:30pm.... To me this is a no-brainer
YMMV, 1.5yrs into a new business, I have to pick my battles
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now, I see it's only 30-40min on I-40, then on NC-74 the rest of the way. 74 isn't bad... just a bit boring, so perhaps I will reconsider...
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If I go to neither, I get off at 4pm, ride my bike on beautiful perfect WNC roads for 3hrs, and I'm home cooking dinner with my smokin hot girlfriend by 7:30pm.... To me this is a no-brainer
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now, I see it's only 30-40min on I-40, then on NC-74 the rest of the way. 74 isn't bad... just a bit boring, so perhaps I will reconsider...
Reconsider? Are you nuts? Reread that excerpt from your earlier post.
OTOH, if she's already dumped you, either rally might do. :wink:
Bill
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Here would be my suggestion based on hosting a few rallies and having some insight into Guzzi family culture . Attend whichever of these events you choose , let the respective rally hosts work out something for next year , maybe Spring and Fall events that don't conflict . There simply can't be too many Guzzi centered gatherings , right fellas ?
Dusty
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It's an 18 hour round trip for me! I am still trying to make it work with my schedule but not sure at this time. I'd love to go to the rally at Iron Horse.
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Got a cabin at BRMC, yesterday for this weekend. Possible showers and after 5 days of rain hiking the App Trail this spring, I want dry. Easy ride down to 28 and Iron Horse for Sat am for a few hours, and back Sat evening.
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now, I see it's only 30-40min on I-40, then on NC-74 the rest of the way. 74 isn't bad... just a bit boring, so perhaps I will reconsider...
Mayor, how would you pick up 74 from Asheville and on down below Canton? I usually get off 40 in Oteen near the VA Hospital, then take the BRP over to Hwy. 276, which is also Cruso Rd.,
leading to the campground. I'm a bit leary of that stretch of 276 if it's been raining though, there are lots of gravel driveways following blind curves that tend to wash rock or sand onto the road. What about taking Hwy 23 from the downtown Asheville area? Does 23 possibly swing south of downtown, maybe thru the Biltmore area?
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Just called Iron Pony and all that's left is 5 beds in bunkhouse setting. I camp IF I'll have $ by the end of week, paying bills
comes 1st.
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Mayor, how would you pick up 74 from Asheville and on down below Canton? I usually get off 40 in Oteen near the VA Hospital, then take the BRP over to Hwy. 276, which is also Cruso Rd.,
leading to the campground. I'm a bit leary of that stretch of 276 if it's been raining though, there are lots of gravel driveways following blind curves that tend to wash rock or sand onto the road. What about taking Hwy 23 from the downtown Asheville area? Does 23 possibly swing south of downtown, maybe thru the Biltmore area?
I wouldn't mess with 23 from asheville to canton... long divided strip-mall highway peppered with lights. Your route along the BRp isn't the best stretch... but it beats stop & go traffic.
This would deff qualify as a scenic route, but you could get off 40 in Marion instead of Black Mtn (exit 81) and go south on Sugar Creek Rd to Bills Creek Rd and take 64 right thru Hendersonville and on toward brevard... 64 intersects with 276 on the Brevard side of the park way.. then up past sliding rock, looking glass falls, cradle of forestry, etc to the parkway.
A longer and more scenic route would be DONT take 64 thru Hendersonville, take 64 to 225 just east of hendersonville, then go south of town down to Green River Road along the SC line and over Cedar Mtn to bring you to Brevard and 276
The route you are already taking is probably the best most direct route... as long as your not on the Black Mtn-to-Asheville stretch of the BRP during rush hour.
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All packed and ready to ride out to Cruso tomorrow morning-hope to see a few of you there! :thumb:
If you are riding down the BRP from the North, be aware that there are several closures and delays, due to road construction. This includes a 25 mile stretch that encompasses Hwy 8 to Floyd, Mabry Mill, Rocky Knob, etc, and ends just before mile post 177, at Willville. At least Will has been spared!
https://www.nps.gov/blri/planyourvisit/roadclosures.htm
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Just found out some of those that had earlier said they were going to BRMC aren't going at all. I've decided I'm heading to the new venue with the new rep. He deserves to have his efforts taken into consideration. He's doing the work, and we're just riding!
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I wish the new NC rep well. Some folks still like the BRMC because of what it doesn't have. I prefer camping at BRMC.
I wonder if the new venue will have someone walking around telling us got to bed at 10PM. I probably would feel comfortable leaving my cigar humidor (for those that still do enjoy a nice cigar) on a picnic at the new place.
But, I have other obligations the first weekend of August every year.
If I attend by myself, I still tent camp. But my wife cannot handle that any longer. Our toyhauler allows her to enjoy what she can, and then retreat, when she feels necessary, to a nice place. The new venue seems to accommodate that.
I am sure that Mark and Barbara have made friends at BRMC. Am I appreciate what they have facilitated over the years providing a destination for me to ride to and bring minimal gear.
I'm the big guy that likes to ride a Guzzi to a "Harley" event, and a Harley to a Guzzi event.
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I wish the new NC rep well. Some folks still like the BRMC because of what it doesn't have. I prefer camping at BRMC.
I wonder if the new venue will have someone walking around telling us got to bed at 10PM. I probably would feel comfortable leaving my cigar humidor (for those that still do enjoy a nice cigar) on a picnic at the new place.
But, I have other obligations the first weekend of August every year.
If I attend by myself, I still tent camp. But my wife cannot handle that any longer. Our toyhauler allows her to enjoy what she can, and then retreat, when she feels necessary, to a nice place. The new venue seems to accommodate that.
I am sure that Mark and Barbara have made friends at BRMC. Am I appreciate what they have facilitated over the years providing a destination for me to ride to and bring minimal gear.
I'm the big guy that likes to ride a Guzzi to a "Harley" event, and a Harley to a Guzzi event.
HDGoose
Long time. Haven't seen you in a long time- since the Guzzi rally at Malibu. Remember the little café (Neptune's Net) right there on Hwy 1? We all hung out there.
I remember Clem Salvadori was with us several times.
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Just found out some of those that had earlier said they were going to BRMC aren't going at all. I've decided I'm heading to the new venue with the new rep. He deserves to have his efforts taken into consideration. He's doing the work, and we're just riding!
Hey, welcome to WG and it was nice meeting you today! Although I hate to say I've slipped your name, please remind me!
Stop by on the way home and get that beer!
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Been riding around Willville for the last couple of days. Plan to visit the BRMC sometime this PM for a couple of days.
I may also visit the Mayor, if time permits. The menu sure looks good :thumb:
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It was great to catch up with old friends and ride with new ones. Got to pop in to the Ironhorse Lodge--looked like everyone was out riding. Nice place (but I'm partial to BRMC, YMMV). After a ride to Ironhorse, Bob, Ray, Christine, Johannes and I rode to the NOC for lunch, then some 19 to the BRP and a wonderful ride down 215 and on back to camp. A great Saturday!
Took a few pics:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mojohand/albums/72157684703363674
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It was great to catch up with old friends and ride with new ones. Got to pop in to the Ironhorse Lodge--looked like everyone was out riding. Nice place (but I'm partial to BRMC, YMMV). After a ride to Ironhorse, Bob, Ray, Christine, Johannes and I rode to the NOC for lunch, then some 19 to the BRP and a wonderful ride down 215 and on back to camp. A great Saturday!
Took a few pics:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mojohand/albums/72157684703363674
Lovely photos, Thank you.
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It was great to catch up with old friends and ride with new ones. Got to pop in to the Ironhorse Lodge--looked like everyone was out riding. Nice place (but I'm partial to BRMC, YMMV). After a ride to Ironhorse, Bob, Ray, Christine, Johannes and I rode to the NOC for lunch, then some 19 to the BRP and a wonderful ride down 215 and on back to camp. A great Saturday!
Took a few pics:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mojohand/albums/72157684703363674
It was nice to see you and "Giancarlo" again, and thanks for the pictures!! :thumb:
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Enjoyed the pic's I know it's a Guzzi event but I sure enjoyed the FJR photo's. Both places are great but I love the openness of BR campground.
Bill
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Mayor,
I appreciate the offer for my return trip last wknd, but i needed to get back home in time to head to a friend's band's concert in Chapel Hill. I will take a raincheck on a future trip, and can vouch for the food @ Sweeten Creek Brewing, as well as the pilsner!
As for the new rally location and hosted by Roger, the (W? NC rep) where I set up camp, it was much better than I expected, and I only had rain just as I left my beer stop in Bryson City on the way in. The food was good but a bit $+, and more importantly, the campground was on par with BRMC. Although gravel camping pads are supposed to drain better if it rains, I think next time i might opt to set up on the grass.
Roger did a splendid job of hosting & guiding us on a Cherohala Skyway & Tail of Dragon Parade/129 tour. Roger brought cheese, deli meats, beer, water & wine. He even gave us a tour of his work shop in Robbinsville @ the start of the tour, which is handy for a repair resource. It is a worthy area of consideration for sport touring without even considering the bs overcrowded ToG, and I'd be willing to go again next year.
I know I'll probably catch hell for saying this, but.....This guy took on a volunteer job that 99% of us wouldn't or couldn't take the time and extra effort to put together. And frankly I'm disappointed in the grumpy, unappreciative attitude that some are showing. I don't care that this(Luddite attitude) is the "way we've always done it". If you like the campground so much, then go there another weekend! This is no way to treat a guy that's gone to this much trouble to hold a Guzzi event!
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I know I'll probably catch hell for saying this, but.....This guy took on a volunteer job that 99% of us wouldn't or couldn't take the time and extra effort to put together. And frankly I'm disappointed in the grumpy, unappreciative attitude that some are showing. I don't care that this(Luddite attitude) is the "way we've always done it". If you like the campground so much, then go there another weekend! This is no way to treat a guy that's gone to this much trouble to hold a Guzzi event!
I don't have a dog in this fight, but you can't go too far wrong when you give a volunteer credit for putting on a Guzzi rally, and at the same time talk about Grumpy Luddites in the Guzzi ranks. You're probably more correct than otherwise there .....
Lannis
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/mojohand/albums/72157684703363674
Nice pics, and the Storm ones are very evocative of situations we've all faced.
Do I laager up somewhere for the night when I see those storm clouds? Where's the boundary between just not wanting to be wet and uncomfortable and being called a Wimp Rider (by you yourself if no one else), and keeping yourself safe from serious hazards (lightning, rocks in the road, flash floods, strong winds, etc)?
Sounds like a good weekend.
Lannis
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I know I'll probably catch hell for saying this, but.....This guy took on a volunteer job that 99% of us wouldn't or couldn't take the time and extra effort to put together. And frankly I'm disappointed in the grumpy, unappreciative attitude that some are showing. I don't care that this(Luddite attitude) is the "way we've always done it". If you like the campground so much, then go there another weekend! This is no way to treat a guy that's gone to this much trouble to hold a Guzzi event!
The real issue here was, not getting the word out well. So people started their own plan.
I send notices to Frank that get published. Not sure why that is an issue.
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Yes Wayne you're right about the mis-communication, mistakes will be made by someone taking on setting up a rally for the first time. But even after learning that the rally was to be held at different campground, there were complaints on the new venue vs. the traditional, and when making a decision which campground to pitch your tent, there still was the "grumpy revolt". If you don't believe that, then go back and read the posts in this string. I didn't particularly like the Glen Maury Campground in Buena Vista, but when MG Va & National events were held there, I still went to the venue where all the work was put on by unpaid volunteers to have the event. And I do appreciate that the Va rally is now @ Willville.
BTW, Roger has acknowledged the opinions on the Iron Horse, and has actually already checked out another venue called the Kickstand Lodge down the road closer to Bryson City. Because of the complaints that Iron Horse was "too nice" or sterile, or too RV/trailer oriented, this place is much more primitive with lots of tent space and a few cabins. However, there is no cafe or kitchen facilities, which means catered food, or 10-15 mile rides to restaurants, or a volunteer crew to cook meals, coffee, clean dishes, etc. The other side of this option is getting a handle on how many to plan on feeding, and that's a very tricky proposition on how much to stick your neck out on committing $ for food.
Wayne, I KNOW you know all this from your own experience as a rep and putting on events. I just want to gently remind everyone of the personal sacrifice of time & effort to put on events purely for the enjoyment of Guzzi riders & those of all brands, that love the camaraderie and beautiful roads rallies provide. I'd suggest that everyone that wishes to do so, give Roger some feedback, and not just the negative variety.
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Certainly some great points, and definitely in the positive spirit we all want.
While I know that the choice of a location is the purview of the rally leader, I do wonder why the venue was changed. By keeping the rally at the Bluye Ridge Motorcycle Campground, you
- Don't need to schlep food, because Phil & Jay cook breakfast and dinner on Friday and Saturday (breakfast every day)
- Don't need to worry about communications, because it's the same place on the same weekend
- Preserve the spirit of having a rally that's chill while also being in one of the best places for riding in the world
The VA rally was moved to Willville not because the rally leader wanted to but because the City of Buena Vista had made it untenable. Previously, the VA rally moved from Sherando Lake to Buena Vista because the Forest Services policies became onerous.
I do very much applaud anyone willing to step up and hold a rally. it's a lot of hassle, stress, work, and stress. So hat's off to anyone who does so. Perhaps next year, either the rally can happen at BRMC, or someone will decide to change weekends. Or something.
Again, props to the rally leaders everywhere!
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At church Sunday the sermon was "It's not about you".
I believe the only reason it was changed was to make it easier on Roger. Can't say as I blame him and it sounds like he really tried. But, the only flaw with the BRMC is cold showers. other than that it's the nicest place wor a low key red suspenders rally.
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But, the only flaw with the BRMC is cold showers.
<scratching head> The showers were fine when the Kid and I were there this spring.. maybe the water heater can't keep up if the place is crowded?
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John Z and I worked on the water heater a couple of years ago. One of the thermostats has going bad. Phil was supposed to replace it.
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Had a nice hot shower weekend before last there.
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<scratching head> The showers were fine when the Kid and I were there this spring.. maybe the water heater can't keep up if the place is crowded?
I'll bet the women did it. At the Ohio Valley BSA rally at Toronto, OH last week, I went Saturday morning to take a shower, and the LP gas tank was empty, and the water was cold. As I was wondering "What happened?", the maintenance guy was outside wrestling a new tank into place and quietly cussing to himself. The showers there are right next to a swimming hole in Cable's Creek, and on Friday night a bunch of young girls had gone swimming, gotten COLD, and spent an hour running the showers wide open to get warm again and used up all the gas ...
Whaddaya gonna do with 'em .... ?
Lannis
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Hot Showers at BRMC. New water heater or something cause they worked long and hot.
Honestly, of all the motorcycle campground/ gathering places, in the south, BRMC stands out.
Dinner was good and breakfast, as always was great. Oh and NO generators going from all of the truck
drawn camper trailers, that were at Iron Horse.
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Please understand, I'm not advocating 1 campground over another, rather I'm advocating for the rep who's taken on a responsibility of working to put on a rally that, unlike some rallies, he doesn't get any compensation for. Another important fact is that Roger doesn't have a spouse that can help in organizing, setting up, taking down, etc., which is why, if he wants to put it on near his shop in Robbinsville to make it easier, then why not wil you or anyone else volunteer to help him plan, set up, etc. Despite what you may think, he's putting in the effort for us to have a nice weekend of riding, not because he's looking for an easy way to put on an event to make money or other untoward motivation.
But to address some of the points brought up in advocacy of BRMC, Iron Horse does have a cafe/restaurant that serves lunch & dinner with choices of entrees, the bathrooms/showers are hot and very clean, has covered areas for bike parking available, has a campfire area beside the back deck & has location options for camping. Although, I'm just not sure if the camping areas would be large enough to accommodate 80-100 people. I didn't notice generators humming, and the only noise that bothered me was the guy snoring in the next tent. Of course, I was told that I put on a good roar on occasion.
The real question is, do we offer respect to the rep that works to put on a rally? It's his decision of where & when (or as Airheads call it, "Whair & When"). On one hand someone advocates moving the date to another date, but does that mean you'll still have your own non rally (alt-rally)event @ the BRMC on the traditional first wknd of August? Would you even attend the rep's rally on another date @ a different facility? Do you know how difficult it is to find another date that doesn't conflict with other rallies or people's schedules? All because you just gotta have your way in doing the same thing every year? Sounds a bit self centered to me. That double edged sword goes both ways.
Again don't get me wrong, I love BRMC as well, but you know that Mark moved it there from High Country/Turkey Tom's years ago, but now does another spring event @ what is now Brent Hollowell's High Country MC. My opinion is that if he moved it to Kickstand, that'd be taking too big a chance on catering with no organized breakfast and a dearth of committed Guzzi attendees.
I don't intend to advocate one place vs another place, I'm just saying we need to value someone's hard work and effort in putting on a Guzzi event, and give him some appreciation for trying.
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All good points, Guziriter, and I do agree and support. I was just offering some thoughts, not disagreements.
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No matter where, or when it is, you will never please everyone.
There may be good reason to move to IronHorse. I can't imagine it, but, OK.
But nothing clear was announced. Oh well.
Hopefully there is a next year. Hopefully it is announced properly.
(covered bike parking? Sounds like a place to avoid. :evil: )
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I believe Mark move from Turkey Tom's because of issues with providing enough food for the rally. I do not remember but there was some sort of snafu that broke up the marriage. A year or two after the move to BRMC the rally literally got washed out the night before the rally when a flash flood took out the bridge. Everybody ended up in a KOA outside of Asheville. Later a lot of Guzzi folks help get the bridge replaced and helped put BRMC back together. I think BRMC just goes back 25 years for a lot of Guzzitis who were regulars.
Nobody was starting an anti rally this year. They just wanted to go back to where there had been going for a long long time. Besides BRMC was one of the first MC camp grounds that really catered to MC riders and camping. NO CARS allowed in the camping area.
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I'll bet the women did it. At the Ohio Valley BSA rally at Toronto, OH last week, I went Saturday morning to take a shower, and the LP gas tank was empty, and the water was cold. As I was wondering "What happened?", the maintenance guy was outside wrestling a new tank into place and quietly cussing to himself. The showers there are right next to a swimming hole in Cable's Creek, and on Friday night a bunch of young girls had gone swimming, gotten COLD, and spent an hour running the showers wide open to get warm again and used up all the gas ...
Whaddaya gonna do with 'em .... ?
Lannis
Join 'em?
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I'm with you Mayor! :thumb:
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It's been about a month. Any word? Date (first weekend in August?) Where? I have to put in for vacation in Jan. or it's a crap shoot as to getting the time off. Yeah, it sucks to be me.
Pick a time and place. Announce it and let the chips fall where they may.
Why is food served or catered at the camp ground? To me half the fun is finding the mom & pop diners, cafes and BBQ joints.
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Why is food served or catered at the camp ground? To me half the fun is finding the mom & pop diners, cafes and BBQ joints.
I can speak from experience that you're in the minority there! For a lot of folks, there is much disappointment and comment if food is not available on the grounds, either prepared by the rally or catered in ... dinner certainly, breakfast often, lunch seldom (lunchtime is when people go out and explore for the mom and pop places ...).
Lannis
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I'm probably am in the minority. I am used to that. :laugh:
I don't drink coffee and am not much of a first thing in the morning breakfast person I can crawl out of the sleeping bag and be saddled up ready to ride in 15-20 minutes.
I am a picky eater and never cared for the menu at the campground. That's on me. Many of the guys at our rally ate there. And liked it! I would eat on the road and be done for the day when I got back to the campground. Or pull in and see if anyone wanted to go eat. I'm not antisocial just not out going.
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Why is food served or catered at the camp ground? To me half the fun is finding the mom & pop diners, cafes and BBQ joints.
In the case of this rally, there is no nearby food... Unless you want to ride 40mins to get to to a tiny town... and then there would be just 2-3 options.. none of which are very good. only/best bet in a half-hour radius would be gas station hotdogs
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In the case of this rally, there is no nearby food... Unless you want to ride 40mins to get to to a tiny town... and then there would be just 2-3 options.. none of which are very good. only/best bet in a half-hour radius would be gas station hotdogs
Or you can do what I did and get a great tasting reuben http://sweetencreekbrewing.com :wink: :thumb:
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I like my coffee and breakfast when I get up. Then go ride all day looking for a lunch stop. Then sit around and talk about the ride at the campground over a meal, later in the day.
I have a couple of friends that like to get up and go before eating. They are both diabetic, and in poor health. And yes, there is a connection. Nothing like having one pull off the side of the road, then pass out while sitting on the bike. Just because he didn't want breakfast at the campground.
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Nothing like having one pull off the side of the road, then pass out while sitting on the bike. Just because he didn't want breakfast at the campground.
A group ride that I attended a few months ago had a diabetic pass out on the ride, crashed and he lost his leg from not stopping and eating the candy in his pocket. Any rides that I attend in the future,especially a long ride, I will ask if anyone in the group is a diabetic.