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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: troyhamilton on March 29, 2017, 04:53:41 PM
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Have any of you guys ran bar end mirrors. im going to need mirrors so i think ill go with bar end mirrors.
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I have a set of CRG bar ends on my 83 Le Mans. The bike came without any mirrors when I took possession, so I cannot comment on the OEM mirrors.
Pro for the CRG's:
They clear my elbows, so the visibility is not obstructed.
The CRG's are good quality, and fold in for storage and clearance.
Cons:
The mirrors are very small, which takes some adjustment in use.
Have any of you guys ran bar end mirrors. im going to need mirrors so i think ill go with bar end mirrors.
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The primary benefit no matter what anyone says is Aesthetics, a well designed high mount mirror will always be superior.
However a quality bar end will be a good alternative especially if they are readily adjustable and in some instances will be more effective especially on a sport bike where you can usually only see you shoulders.
The main downside is the time taken to check the mirror and that they can take you eye away from the road ahead and also the extra width for some models especially if you operate in traffic and lane split.
Yes I have bar ends on my Griso.
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Depending on what type you have and how you adjust them, they can come out roughly in the same place as the long stalk type. I like the lack of vibration because of their very short stalks.
Here's one of the cheapie $15/pair ones I use on my 250. I have similar ones on my Mille, my H2, and my DT100. You can see that it could be pivoted up to be just about in a "stock" location, if desired. The extension outboard of the mirror is the stock slider the Ninja 250 comes with.
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You're going to knock them off on about every third tree on the trail...
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You're going to knock them off on about every third tree on the trail...
dang you must know this hillbilly lol where there is sin i must go!
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Just me but I think I see better out of these than what my stocks provided with no vibration.
I've had CRG Lane Splitters. My current Arrows on my V7 are better for visibility but I do miss the look of the round LS. Might switch back at some point.
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I have lane splitters on the Mighty Scura and Aero Lario. If you can see a car in the mirrors.. it's RIGHT THERE.. it takes a little getting used to.
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:1: CRG Lane Splitter Bar End Mirrors if you're going for the Ace Cafe look. They're so much more attractive than the stock "Mickey Mouse Ear" mirrors-on-a-stalk that most modern bikes have. That's the deal, looks. Not as efficient, but good looking on the right bike.
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I had CRGs bar ends on my Griso and now have them on my V7.
Advantages: You see nothing but what you want to see. The image is rock solid stable. They fold in for storage and parking. They look great and are a quality product.
Disadvantages: I don't "see" any....
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this is the mutt im putting them on. swap meet/trade/barter/gift bike!
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added the crg's on the tuono, much better rear view. No longer looking at my arms and like the adjust ability. Flick out of the way in the garage which is nice. No reason you couldn't run both I suppose.
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Hated em. You need to turn your head over and down to look. With mirrors on stalks at a decent height and in front of the bars, I can see a wider view just with a glance and no head movement. When it comes to mirrors- I'm not going to sacrifice function for style
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this is the mutt im putting them on. swap meet/trade/barter/gift bike!
Get the $15 ones. I have them and they work fine. Plus if you break one just get another pair. Nothing to lose.
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i have alot to do before i get the mirrors. but ive always liked the look
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I tried a couple of different round clamp on types. I thought they sucked. I went back to the napoleon mirror, steady as a rock, great vision. And you can use the word Napoleon in a sentence.
Pedro for president!
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I have the Napoleon's on my Scura and my K75s. They do look cool, but I also like the visibility better than the lollipop mirrors that were on both of the those bikes.
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Used Napoleans on my BMW and my Triumph. They reduce vibes and get well outside of my elbows. I like them...
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Depending on what type you have and how you adjust them, they can come out roughly in the same place as the long stalk type. I like the lack of vibration because of their very short stalks.
Here's one of the cheapie $15/pair ones I use on my 250. I have similar ones on my Mille, my H2, and my DT100. You can see that it could be pivoted up to be just about in a "stock" location, if desired. The extension outboard of the mirror is the stock slider the Ninja 250 comes with.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/triplejim/motorcycles/Ninja%20250/bar_end_mirror_1024_zpsgwbxiep6.jpg)
Bugger you TJ... A red Griso is it ? and no full shot. Any chance ? I like those.
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Bugger you TJ... A red Griso is it ? and no full shot. Any chance ? I like those.
doesn't look like a griso to me
the right switch and front brake master cylinder are typical Kawasaki parts.
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I've got CRG lanesplitters on my Monster and they're great.
When researching mirrors for my Guzzi, I fitted them for a test run but found them too low and far back for use with clip-ons, so went with a pair of OEM style 'Mickey-Mouse ear' mirrors.
I think a different style of bar-end mirror would be OK and I may look into it but they would need to be the type that sit ahead of and above the bar-end to work satisfactorily IMO.
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Napoleons..
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I have used them on several bikes because they give a neat appearance....But me or someone or something always seems to knock the mirrors out of adjustment......I now use low profile aftermarket mirrors mounted in the traditional position...
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I have a set of Napoleons on the CX and the CRG's on the 1000S and for functionality, the Napoleons are the best of the two.
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Bugger you TJ... A red Griso is it ? and no full shot. Any chance ? I like those.
Phang is right, Huzo. I mentioned it's on my 250. I should have said "Ninja 250". I would love to have a Griso, however.
In this photo, the left mirror is not far from a traditional long-stalk location:
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it looks familiar to me because my Kawasaki W400 has the exact switch/master cylinder combination.
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I am surprise no one mention Halcyon?
I bought a set for my V7 Sport, they are very well made but I am not sure how they perform on bike as they are still in the box.
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I have the cheap $15(even cheaper on ebay) ones on my 500 Triumph cafe racer and they are great. They are the first mirrors I've had that don't vibrate on it.
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Yes, Halcyon! they do perform well. Two mirror head sized are available. Not cheap compared to 15 bux, but average to better price compared to CRG. Flat glass, no vibes.
I am surprise no one mention Halcyon?
I bought a set for my V7 Sport, they are very well made but I am not sure how they perform on bike as they are still in the box.
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I have the cheap $15(even cheaper on ebay) ones on my 500 Triumph cafe racer and they are great. They are the first mirrors I've had that don't vibrate on it.
Right, I said $15 because the first set I bought were something like $14 or $15, but I just got another pair for spares yesterday, and they were $10 including shipping.
I do modify them by milling the gap between the ends of the clamp halves wider, so that if the bike falls over or gets bumped from the side, the stalk can pivot into the gap as the mirror pivots up, rather than hitting the bracket and breaking something. A belt sander or hack saw could be used as well.
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I've been using the stock mirrors on my 14 Stone with extenders I got from Dime City. They raised and moved out the stalks where I wasn't looking at mostly my arms and a little of the road. I like bar ends but didn't want to sacrifice the narrow profile of the V7. Well I finally got my GIVI bags and mounts so now the bike is not so narrow. I just installed Napoleon mirrors and love them. Very high quality stuff.
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I have a set of Napoleons on the CX and the CRG's on the 1000S and for functionality, the Napoleons are the best of the two.
My thoughts, too. I like the "looks" of the CRGs though. :smiley:
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For the Napoleon Mirrors users, do you need additional bar end weights to reduce the vibration or the mirror arms themselves got enough weight?
I still got stock mirrors on my 15 Stone, and depends on what RPM I am at, they can be clear as ice or vibrate so much that they give me a headache looking at them...
Also was there modification required as Stone's handle bar isn't hollow like most of the 22mm (7/8" bar) out there.
Looking at this bad boy right now, but don't want to pull the trigger until I know for sure...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAPOLEON-AP-Universal-Bar-End-Mirror-Black-AP-104-/192137646059?hash=item2cbc4bcfeb:g:m1YAAOSwcLxYLJpb&vxp=mtr
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For reference, some bar end mirrors need the end of the bar to be hollow for their expansion plugs. Others clamp to the outside of the bar. The cheapies on eBay clamp to the outside of the bar, or optionally to expansion plugs that comes with them.
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On my Centauro.. the Napoleons added more damping than the bar end weights.
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Just me but I think I see better out of these than what my stocks provided with no vibration.
I've had CRG Lane Splitters. My current Arrows on my V7 are better for visibility but I do miss the look of the round LS. Might switch back at some point.
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I have the CRG Lane Splitters on my Yamaha. Because of the look of the bike, I would prefer the Arrows. Interested in working out a deal for a trade?
I do like the CRG mirrors though. On my bikes, I do not have to turn my head very far to see. Stock mirrors just showed my shoulders. I am keeping the stock mirrors on my Griso because they are the best I've had on a stock bike.
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On my Centauro.. the Napoleons added more damping than the bar end weights.
I think this is true on my Scura too. The Napoleons were a bit of a hassle to install - had to shave down the rubber bushing to get it into the threaded bar-ends.
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On my Triumph, I put a Napolean on the left of the bar and a throttle-locking barend on the right. Unobstructed view, less vibes, and cruise control to boot...it's a great setup for a roadster.
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Yes, Halcyon! they do perform well. Two mirror head sized are available. Not cheap compared to 15 bux, but average to better price compared to CRG. Flat glass, no vibes.
How are they for lane splitting?
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I've got CRG bar-end mirrors on the bikes. I tried a set of cheap ones from Cycle Gear at first to see if I liked them, and i enjoyed the increased field of view versus the mouse-ears on the Ducati. The cheapies were cast pot-metal and failed on the road. . . the arm holding the mirror just snapped off clean. Conversely- the CRG's are milled from billet aluminum and have replacement parts available if you ever need.
While I understand the argument of "taking your eyes off the road" or "looking farther away to check a mirror" I'm always scanning the periphery, checking mirrors, looking up the road, or in some RARE cases actually enjoying the scenery on the ride. I give a head-chek before any lane change anyway, so my experience has never found me being caught out by glancing at the bar end.
Quite the opposite actually. I feel that the placement of the mouse ears on my bikes only offered a great view of my shoulders & had me trying to quickly contort my upper body so that I could free up the field of view behind. I think that's more dangerous.
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Whatever you decide to do Razorback boy, don't let THIS happen to you!
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now thats funny. :boozing:
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and the deer are bad here. but the elk are 75 miles away...
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I've never liked bar end mirrors.
I don't like things sticking out the sides and things obstructing my hands getting to and off of the grips.
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I like how infinitely adjustable the halcyon mirrors can be. With a bit of futzing around you have great rear views. The round mirror also match the V7's instrument bezels.
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Got an Arrow on the Sfida 1000.
I only install one & have tried various different brands, they all work better than the stock offering and look better too IMHO. The arrow is the best I have found to date............... ...not cheap in the UK though, but Heh you get what you pay for most of the time
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