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Title: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Grant Borden on April 14, 2017, 11:16:54 PM
Been riding bikes for more than 56 years, due to aging problems I've decided to add a third wheel to one of my bikes to keep from falling down when stopping. Sometimes my knee gives way causing the bike to lay down.

I also have found I can no longer fold up enough to ride my sport bike and after thinking my knees would get better for several years I have finally decided they will not, so I am seriously considering selling my 1993 Daytona 1000 that I purchased new with Daytona stand, special tools, other accessories and manuals and possibly the Handy pneumatic lift, Is there any demand for one of these bikes, it is now 24 years old and looks and runs as new?

Grant
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Scud on April 15, 2017, 12:04:26 AM
Bummer. Sidecar on the BMW?

As for selling that Daytona, it's got to be a hard thing to think about letting it go. But if you do decide to sell it, that's a special machine and I'm sure somebody will want it.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Arizona Wayne on April 15, 2017, 01:02:28 AM
Welcome to the Guzzi geezer faction of this group.  :cheesy:  You are not alone here.   That is why many here now ride their 750 newer Guzzis.   Sooner or later as we get into our 60-70s we realize we have to change our steeds if we want to keep on riding.   Our strength, need for speed, ain't what it used to be any more. I live in an area with many other aging bikers and many of them now ride trikes.  We're all getting older.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
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Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: ChuckH on April 15, 2017, 06:24:19 AM
IMO, the change from two wheels to three wheels in some form (trike, side-car, etc), is a very natural progression for riders who have been in the sport for many years.  We tend to get shorter and lose muscle mass as we age and controlling a two-wheel bike, particularly if riding two-up, gets much more difficult. 

Generally, the first steps are to smaller, lighter bikes, with lower seat heights, that are easier to manage.  From there to three wheels, or, to stop riding altogether.

Something you may want to consider for your various joints, is Yoga exercises.  I've got a few years on you and a couple of years ago my knees were starting to complain after a few hundred miles on the bike.  My wife and I had been regulars at a local exercise facility, doing mostly weights and cardio activities five or six times a week.  The facility is connected with our local hospital and they began to offer a variety of fitness classes led by trained therapists.  We bought some mats and started the Yoga classes two or three times a week. 

Long-story-short, the classes have helped my flexibility a lot.  Our one-hour classes basically stretch and flex every joint and muscle group in the body.  Frankly, they can be a little challenging and somewhat humbling.  By the way, most guys are not nearly as flexible, nor as strong, as many females.  I can now ride all day without my knees causing undue pain and, for me, that's the bottom line.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Grant Borden on April 15, 2017, 07:15:42 AM
azguzzirep,

I see that you've been in my garage taking spy photos of my new bike.

Grant
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Grant Borden on April 15, 2017, 07:22:22 AM
ChuckH,

We will have to look into that YOGA business, all the facilities you mentioned are more than 50 miles across a mountain from my location, will have to look into some videos on the subject.

Thanks,
Grant
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Grant Borden on April 15, 2017, 07:26:30 AM
Scud,

I ran across a sidecar for a Royal Enfield, installed it on my RE, a lot of fun to drive although I enjoy the two wheel version more.

Grant
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
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Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: oldbike54 on April 15, 2017, 08:04:54 AM
Scud,

I ran across a sidecar for a Royal Enfield, installed it on my RE, a lot of fun to drive although I enjoy the two wheel version more.

Grant

 Grant , have you ever watched the English TV show "Death in Paradise"? One of the cops rides exactly that .

 No doubt , getting old can be tough , but remember , it also allows us to enter a second childhood  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Bill Hagan on April 15, 2017, 08:35:06 AM

Howdy, Grant.

I feel your pain!  :cry:

Hope to ride my present harem for a few more years, but trust I am sufficiently humble and socially responsible enough to know when to hang up those spurs.

Even then, that little Mini S 'vert in the garage is so much fun, that I'll likely not go the three-wheeled route.

In the meantime, and in recognition of the potential realities of riding the roads, just ordered these for Kathi and me. 

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We'll be in 'em for the mutton run in May.   :grin:

Best,

Bill

Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Lannis on April 15, 2017, 08:42:31 AM

Even then, that little Mini S 'vert in the garage is so much fun, that I'll likely not go the three-wheeled route.

Bill

That's likely me also.   Motorcycling has been an integral part of my life for 48 years now, but when it's time to quit, it's just time, like a lot of other things.   

When two wheels becomes impossible, I'll be back in the Morgan 4/4 or a similar roadster until it's time to quit driving, then will keep a Guzzi hack around as a bribe to my son to ride me on my favorite roads occasionally .... he knows who'll get these bikes when I ain't there no more!

It's all good.

Lannis
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: slowmover on April 15, 2017, 09:46:41 AM
At 62 I am only good for an hour on my V7 before everything starts hurting but I  am grateful for that much.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: azguzzirep on April 15, 2017, 09:50:55 AM
I used to do yoga, too, when it was offered at the University I was working at, free of cost to employees 😊 I didn't do the chanting, though. I thought it was religious, and I already have a religion.

I felt great afterwards. Might do it again as I found a yoga studio not very far away. I mean I  can walk there.!!
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: LowRyter on April 15, 2017, 09:57:27 AM
.....tell me about it, I turn 63 tomorrow.

After a month of repairs and fabrication, I hope to get the Greenie out of the shop on Monday, so I have a pretty nice birthday gift in the works. 

 :bike-037:
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: bjk7689 on April 15, 2017, 10:18:56 AM
Hi Grant. If you are serious about letting your Daytona 1000 go, i would love to know more about it! I have regretfully passed on a couple of these the last few years and kick myself every day. Thanks.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: not-fishing on April 15, 2017, 10:50:20 AM
Grant, before you let the Daytona go think about "raising the bridge vs lowering the water".  I picked up a Lemans last year and found that though my knees are good they just don't like being folded that much for long periods of time.  The Lemans has dropped pegs.

I added a shag sheepskin seatcover.  It's a 70's that that I used on my little Italian cars that didn't have air conditioning  It's raised my seat enough so that I can be good for another 5+ years  I figure.... maybe I'll add another inch of padding later on

I know eventually the time will come that I'm on a Scooter because it's step through, lower and I don't have to remember what gear I'm in

After that there's always old Alfa's for me to work on..

Mark

Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Tkelly on April 15, 2017, 10:51:35 AM
my grandpa used to say it beats the alternative.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: oldbike54 on April 15, 2017, 11:14:19 AM
.....tell me about it, I turn 63 tomorrow.

After a month of repairs and fabrication, I hope to get the Greenie out of the shop on Monday, so I have a pretty nice birthday gift in the works. 

 :bike-037:

 I keep forgetting how much older you are than me  :rolleyes:

 Happy birthday John , heck , someone started a camp out just so we could celebrate our Bdays  :laugh: Unfortunately Marcia isn't coming this year , so we probably won't get a cake  :sad:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: dxhall on April 15, 2017, 11:21:17 AM
If you're serious about selling, I'd be interested.  I'm thinking, though, that the Daytona may be to you like my '37 Packard is to me.  Even though I don't drive it much, it's my all time favorite car and I just like seeing it parked in my garage.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: ChuckH on April 15, 2017, 11:36:53 AM
... I didn't do the chanting, though....I felt great afterwards. Might do it again as I found a yoga studio not very far away. I mean I  can walk there.!! 

I haven't heard any chanting in our classes.  The exercise facility is in the local Senior Center.  Most of the people have a bit of age on them so maybe a bit of groaning or gasping, but that is from the effort only.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: oldbike54 on April 15, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
I haven't heard any chanting in our classes.  The exercise facility is in the local Senior Center.  Most of the people have a bit of age on them so maybe a bit of groaning or gasping, but that is from the effort only.

 Yep , along with the occasional unintended release of some toxic gas  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: twowings on April 15, 2017, 01:06:36 PM
I do yoga and TM and walk 2-3 miles daily with the dogs...as long as I can get this thing on the centerstand, I will be happy...if not, then I'll move to a RE Himalayan which is about 125 lbs lighter...and after that, I guess it's Hoverround time... :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: britman on April 15, 2017, 01:18:46 PM
For me it's loss of eyesight more than the aches and pains.  I haven't been able to see anything up close for years now without my drug store glasses.  I have gone from 125 to 250 in what seems like a drop of a hat and I have sets all over the house, garage, cars, and extra's even in my saddlebags and back pack.  Within the last year or so I can also see the distance vision going down hill so I know the time is near is for a full time pair that costs more than nine bucks. 

The only drawback to this whole malady is sunglasses.  I have been wearing Ray Ban's since being in Viet Nam when you could them out of the PX for next to nothing.  It is the only brand I can wear and if I don't have a pair on in bright sunlight I will sneeze my damn head off.  I know the appointment with the peeper Doc in the near future, hopefully he will have the answer.........
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: oldbike54 on April 15, 2017, 01:24:03 PM
 Britman , prescription sunglasses are a simple proposition .

 Oh , and why are you paying so much for readers , Dollar tree has them for a buck , I buy them by the hand full  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Arizona Wayne on April 15, 2017, 01:47:43 PM
Well, I'm 73.7 yo and some of you guys are making me feel younger since y'all have issues I don't.  My knees aren't great but I can still bend them for MC rides.   My eyes make me officially blind w/o lenses but my nearsightedness comes in handy for seeing things up close.  The 1 thing I can't do much any more is walk very far due to a pinched nerve.  But if you want to still be able to ride and lean in corners get a 3 wheeled  Piaggio MP3.  :bow:  Just don't buy a 500 as they are not reliable(motor).  Get a left over 400 instead like I have.  :wink:
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Bill N on April 15, 2017, 04:25:01 PM
It sucks for sure. For me at 69, motorcycle camping has become a pain. I've enjoyed it for years but the tent set up and breakdown kills my writs and lower back. So my camping trip days are numbered. However I'm still good for 10 hour rides with my wrists being my weakest link. Hope to do a 3000 mile trip in May but will stay in Motels and/or cabins. So I'm not done yet and will down size my bikes as I get older.
Bill
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: malik on April 15, 2017, 05:09:24 PM
Flexibility is a key factor. We do tend to tighten up as we age - we get "efficient", so loose tone. Depending where you are are starting from, it may be daily practice for some 6 months, say, before once or twice a week is sufficient. Women tend to have an easier time of it, as, one, they are better built that way, and, two, they seem to spend less time sitting on the couch & more time moving.

At only 70, I'm still camping, and have other 70 year old mates, some superbly unfit, who are still camping too. It's great out there. Don't settle for less - there is all this great gear out there these days, it can be done in ease and comfort, and with less weight.

A lighter bike is an advantage. We are better off than another mate who has lost all feeling in his feet - couldn't tell when his feet were on the ground - so he now rides the trike, wife on the back.

It's all doable, although adjustments may have to be made - to yourself, your gear, and/or your preconceptions.

Mal
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Lannis on April 15, 2017, 06:13:08 PM

At only 70, I'm still camping, and have other 70 year old mates, some superbly unfit, who are still camping too. It's great out there. Don't settle for less - there is all this great gear out there these days, it can be done in ease and comfort, and with less weight.

Mal

I think, though, that it's OK to have a preconception that at some point in your life, you've slept on the ground ENOUGH!

For my family members and some friends who were in the Army or Marine Corps, they had enough of camping the day they got out of the service, and have never done it again.   I've never really been enthusiastic about it, but have done it because it can be cheaper than a motel, or out of other necessity.

Today I do it only at rallies where camping is sort of part of the deal, and you miss out on a lot if you don't camp with the rest.   Even then, a lot of people opt for a motel, and it's hard to blame them .... rolling around in a tent trying to put on your pants, and crawling out the doorway, tripping on the threshold and guy ropes, into the soaking-wet grass, desperate to take a leak ... and having to spend half your morning packing up your wet gear ... I don't blame anyone for getting tired of it by the time they're 70 ... or 60 ... or 50 .... or .....

Lannis
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Arizona Wayne on April 15, 2017, 07:38:40 PM
The only part of camping I don't like is when it's time to repack everything.  :evil:  Then it's no fun.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on April 15, 2017, 08:14:06 PM
 Being a septugenarian and longtime sidecar pilot I can say, T'works for me.  Yoga on the other hand may enable you to kiss your ass goodby when the time comes.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Aaron D. on April 15, 2017, 10:01:17 PM
After the novelty of camping wears off, for me it's just a means to an activity. I always enjoyed camping in the winter, especially ski touring, but there would not be much interest to camp in the cold in my back yard.

On bikes, I can travel a LOT lighter using hotels. We camped for three months touring around-boy, it sure was nice to get a room now and then!
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Arizona Wayne on April 15, 2017, 11:48:06 PM
[quote author=Aaron D. link=topic=89687.msg1417370#msg1417370 .

On bikes, I can travel a LOT lighter using hotels. We camped for three months touring around-boy, it sure was nice to get a room now and then!
[/quote]


Yeah, if you have enough $ to pull it off.   :undecided:  Motel prices aren't staying as cheap as they used to be.  :huh:  Maybe it has something to do with inflation.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Lannis on April 16, 2017, 07:12:39 AM
[quote author=Aaron D. link=topic=89687.msg1417370#msg1417370 .

On bikes, I can travel a LOT lighter using hotels. We camped for three months touring around-boy, it sure was nice to get a room now and then!



Yeah, if you have enough $ to pull it off.   :undecided:  Motel prices aren't staying as cheap as they used to be.  :huh:  Maybe it has something to do with inflation.

Depending on what kind of camping you do, and what kind of motels you stay at, there might not be that huge a difference.   There's such a big range.

If you stay in franchised kampgrounds (oops, spelled it wrong!) it can be $40 a night just for a tent spot.   If you get a kabin with no running water, just lights and a place to throw a bedroll, it can be $60 or $80.   Of course, if you ask permission to camp in a fallow pasture, or in a national forest, or the back of a town park, you can stay for free.

Hotels are just as wide a range.   You can still find a clean (if shabby) place, like the Elkins Economy Lodge for less than $50 a night, although that will sometimes get you a literal flea trap.   (The one time I wished I had a portable computer that would show hotel ratings was the evening we stayed in the "Budgetel" in Gainesville, Georgia last year.)    If you can find a string of clean $50 places on the road, you can stay out a couple months without too much pain.

And then, you get in a situation like I did coming back from the National once.   8:00 at night, getting dark, had done 600 miles, 300 miles from home, and a black squall line straddling the road ahead.   And like a beacon of light, a "Holiday Inn Express" gleamed from the side of the highway.

"Express", that's the cheap version of the "Holiday Inn", isn't it?   This'll be great.   The lovely desk clerk invited me to park under the front verandah under cover from the storm, I unloaded my bag, went in to settle up ... and it was $149 a night ....   They had me, though, I was in for the night.   

But do much of that on a long trip and anyone'll go broke before they get home ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Sheepdog on April 16, 2017, 07:51:45 AM
Aging is a mixed bag. Yes, my body is pretty beat up, but if I do my part with diet, stretching, and exercise I manage to move around in away that is about 70% as good as I ever could. Since I'm retired, I have a wonderfully flexible schedule. Also, I managed to pay off all my bills and have more disposable income than I ever had before. My life experiences have taught me to avoid bad, ego-driven decisions. I have grandkids...

All things considered, getting old is a good deal easier than being young!
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Grant Borden on April 16, 2017, 10:49:31 AM
Mr. Hagan,

I hope you are still riding when you reach my age of 32 years, hahaha. Can not give out my actual age, it is a Federal Government TOP Secret.

I have a few bikes left that don' required folding yourself like a pocket knife as my Daytona does. And I did give up my old Corvette after not adding more than 400 miles a year, brought tears to my eyes seeing it leave the driveway realizing it was too late to undo the deal, that is the reason I'm having a difficult time letting go of the Daytona.

Doctors want to install better knees but I think most of them think they need my money, just they have a good memory and passed a test to become doctors does not necessarily makes them intelligently enough to know what I need, could be corrupted thinking on my part or simply I like my old knees so much I don't want to give them up.

At this point in time I may need to get a protective suite from the Michelin tire man to give adequate protection.

Hope to make more rides with you in the future, that is when I become more mature.

Grant


Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 16, 2017, 10:51:37 AM
When I get old, I'll tell you guys what it's like.. :evil:  :smiley:
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Grant Borden on April 16, 2017, 10:59:38 AM
Sasquatch Jim,

The sidecar for camping is working very well for me also, I can take all the comforts of home plus Suzy-Q my trusty dog. And I see your point about yoga, not that I agree as I may not have enough time to kiss it since I have slowed down with advanced maturity.



Chuck in Indiana,

If it is any indication of age, I noticed last time I saw you there seemed to be quite a few platinum hair on your head than on mine.

Grant
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on April 16, 2017, 11:14:28 AM
  I still pilot my sidecar but can't go camping.  If I lie down on the ground, I have a lot of trouble getting up.
 And walking is a bit of a pain.  Most Guzzi campouts are not in wheelchair compatible places.  Example is my favorite,
 The Deep Forest Campout in Washington State.
 I have a lot less platinum hair now.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 16, 2017, 04:34:12 PM
Sasquatch Jim,

The sidecar for camping is working very well for me also, I can take all the comforts of home plus Suzy-Q my trusty dog. And I see your point about yoga, not that I agree as I may not have enough time to kiss it since I have slowed down with advanced maturity.



Chuck in Indiana,

If it is any indication of age, I noticed last time I saw you there seemed to be quite a few platinum hair on your head than on mine.

Grant

Grey hair is a small price to pay for this much wisdom.. :smiley: :boozing:
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Tennmoto on April 16, 2017, 05:32:06 PM
I like bikes that are light and or low, don't see why some of us have 800lb monsters. My Cal Stone really
Isn't heavy and it's low. And it sounds good, lol
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: malik on April 16, 2017, 06:06:27 PM
Once the difficulties & inconvenience of camping exceed the fun factor, it's then reasonable & sensible to buy your bed for the night. When free camping is no longer easy to find & it costs nearly as much to camp as to pay for a bed (with showers & facilities) as is happening more & more in the developed world, it then may be just too hard. I use a hammock, so I sleep on a cloud, dress standing up & the only thing that gets wet is the fly. Easy & comfortable. I have some mates you have moved to the Redvers style palace with the bike garage built in. They dress standing up too, & sleep on a stretcher with a comfortable mattress. Over here in Oz we still have lots of places to camp free or cheaply, so that's not a problem. During our trip around the country last year, in 105 days my cousin & I camped half the time, paid for a bed (cabins/pubs/motels) a quarter of the time, and the other quarter with friends. Worked out well, and a lot of the places we camped were stunning. I'll keep on doing it as long as I can. It's great out there.

I will admit though, that the swag (for those that don't know it, it's like a super bivy bag) no longer gets much use. It's quick to lay out & to roll up, doesn't require any trees & warm & dry, but there's really not much room in there - OK for a couple of nights, but not the sort of place to wait out a couple of days for the rain to stop. And it takes up more room on the bike than the hammock. But so far, it's still better than a motel. That may change.

On the other hand, I came across a guy on a new GXSR750. He was dressed in a one piece leather suit, had only a tank bra with a wallet & a phone, and had ridden 40,000 km in 3 months. Credit card camping extraordinaire. Very impressive.

Mal
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Testarossa on April 16, 2017, 06:26:30 PM
It's been decades since I could sleep well on dirt or grass. Ironically, snow is easier -- On a multi-day ski tour I can dig a snow cave each night and hibernate like a bear. A shelf for sleep, a shelf for cooking, a roll of insulation and a big down bag. Skiing is what keeps my bones and joints working -- riding and driving just don't provide the range of motion necessary to avoid stiffening up after three or four hours. This summer I need to get back on the bicycle in some kind of regular if not rigorous fashion.

We built the camper van specifically to avoid tent camping. Overnighting via motorcycle nowadays means visiting friends, or moteling, or shlepping the bike on the back of the van. 
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Lannis on April 16, 2017, 08:50:04 PM
Grey hair is a small price to pay for this much wisdom.. :smiley: :boozing:

Just grey hair?  HAH, that's not going to pay for much wisdom.   Once you kick in a bad knee, a pot belly, eyes going bad, ED, and peripheral neuropathy, THAT'S when you get some wisdom worth talking about.

Uh ... At least that's what an old guy told me once ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Aaron D. on April 16, 2017, 10:38:37 PM
Depending on what kind of camping you do, and what kind of motels you stay at, there might not be that huge a difference.   There's such a big range.

If you stay in franchised kampgrounds (oops, spelled it wrong!) it can be $40 a night just for a tent spot.   If you get a kabin with no running water, just lights and a place to throw a bedroll, it can be $60 or $80.   Of course, if you ask permission to camp in a fallow pasture, or in a national forest, or the back of a town park, you can stay for free.

Hotels are just as wide a range.   You can still find a clean (if shabby) place, like the Elkins Economy Lodge for less than $50 a night, although that will sometimes get you a literal flea trap.   (The one time I wished I had a portable computer that would show hotel ratings was the evening we stayed in the "Budgetel" in Gainesville, Georgia last year.)    If you can find a string of clean $50 places on the road, you can stay out a couple months without too much pain.

And then, you get in a situation like I did coming back from the National once.   8:00 at night, getting dark, had done 600 miles, 300 miles from home, and a black squall line straddling the road ahead.   And like a beacon of light, a "Holiday Inn Express" gleamed from the side of the highway.

"Express", that's the cheap version of the "Holiday Inn", isn't it?   This'll be great.   The lovely desk clerk invited me to park under the front verandah under cover from the storm, I unloaded my bag, went in to settle up ... and it was $149 a night ....   They had me, though, I was in for the night.   

But do much of that on a long trip and anyone'll go broke before they get home ....

Lannis

Camping real cheap is making a bivouac. That's how I've done it, sleeping in free sites and wherever there were trees.
I've been to rallies, not to many doing that!

Get way from the interstates and hotels aren't bad pricewise. They may smell funny though! Still with the price of some rigs and campgrounds, a motel is a very reasonable choice for the unplanned traveler.

After that there is couchsurfing.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Arizona Wayne on April 17, 2017, 12:57:10 AM
Be warned the so called discount high volume independent outfits that claim they can get you a good deal @ X place are a con nowadays.  Example............ .I was looking for a decent price for staying in a motel @ the Datil, NM Guzzi state Rally this year.  Much to my surprise I found a few high volume Motel discount places that offered me a deal there.  There deal was charging me $30 more per night than if I just called the motel and made the reservation myself.  :rolleyes:  Again, it pays to shop around if you can.  Many times a small time motel is cheaper than a motel chain, but not always.  Of course it also depends how demanding you are to be happy too.  We just want a place to sleep with no bugs and some ice available in the deal.  But even that is not an automatic when you're dealing with India/Pakistani operators.   If I'm @ any motel that's not part of a national chain I want to see the room before I commit.  :azn:  Even doing that is no guarantee I'll be happy there.   But I'm not very picky, except for price.  Nowadays it seems if you get a motel room for no more than $60 you're doing good.  :huh:  At least  out West.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Ncdan on April 17, 2017, 09:41:11 AM
I'm 64 and capable of 500 mile days in the saddle however don't like more than 300 when touring. I hit the gym 3 times a week, maintain a proper height weight ratio, eat property, only drink when I want SOME:) and get a physical every year. I do thake meds for elivated BP,  cholesterol,and sugar. I ride sensibly and CCW at all times. Don't take this as a brag, im simply blessed beyond words. Happy Easter fellow guzziest.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Sheepdog on April 17, 2017, 10:26:59 AM
I like small-town, off-the-highway motels. They're usually picturesque, comfortably appointed, clean, and affordable. I stayed at one such place in Buffalo, WY last year and as tempted to stay an extra day! My wife doesn't tour with me, but is my constant companion via a tracking app and my cell phone. As I get tired or start running out of daylight, she finds me an interesting-yet-affordable place to spend the night. This allows me to just concentrate on my riding experience without having to follow a set schedule. Great wife, my Susana...
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: SaskMick on April 17, 2017, 11:00:53 AM
Getting old does not mean you have to give up having fun or Moto Guzzi's .    I'm 62 now and have a mint 2003 titanium, I bought it so I could build one of these but am saving up for the kit. In the meantime I will ride it as and when I can.... I live two miles up a gravel road, that's my main problem with two wheels..

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEWzA7l9OTw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEWzA7l9OTw)
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: SaskMick on April 17, 2017, 11:09:18 AM
They are small and light and the handling is good.

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Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: JJ on April 17, 2017, 11:29:21 AM
Yes...when the time comes when I can no longer "SAFELY" manage two-wheels...I am definitely going this route!! :cool: - - - as I will not sit home with the TV remote on the couch...waiting to DIE!!  :laugh: :grin: :wink:


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Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: SaskMick on April 17, 2017, 11:44:55 AM
 I think three wheels are just as much fun as two wheels, and you can take the dog too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4KIJcye4RY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4KIJcye4RY)

My first bike was an Ariel Huntsmaster with a Watsonian sidecar.   Now I have a Sportster and have no fear of dropping it on the gravel..

Three wheels can be very cool as long as you stay away from Harley trikes  :grin:
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Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: SaskMick on April 17, 2017, 11:57:12 AM
Neat way to address the balance pipe problem.

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Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Lannis on April 17, 2017, 12:39:22 PM
Traveling frequently between the Pacific and the Mississippi I have found several motels operated by those from the Punjab and Pakistan and have found them to my liking.
They usually are clean , friendly, have great WyFi coffee in room and run about $50 or so. (Some will cut you a deal for CASH).

 One of my requirements is to be able to park in front of the room.

I have to admit that I like having a bed and shower for good rest but it absolutely has nothing to do with age.
Camp when its the only practical option. With a good air mat and a one man tent and warm blanket I'm set for a couple of nites.

That's me, mostly.   With 60%+ of the hotels/motels in the USA being owned/operated by the Patils, we sure hope there's no correlation between ownership and quality.   Can't say I've found a difference.

However, like it or not, motels that are being used partly to house "homeless" under some state or federal program are generally pretty horrible.   I've been caught out twice that way .... I do my due-diligence now, no more of that.

Lannis
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: mgmark on April 18, 2017, 10:10:47 AM

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Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Grant Borden on April 18, 2017, 12:10:33 PM
mgmark,

I'm a charter member of that club.

Grant
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: britman on April 18, 2017, 03:09:00 PM
Do you gentlemen also find that you tend to injure yourself more as time passes.  Within the past six months two trips to the Emergency Room, once while drilling holes in my home made throttle body covers for the Bassa.  The bit broke and drilled between my thumb and fore finger, four stitches. Two weeks ago while trimming the hedges at a tip toe point, the trimmer slipped back and cut the top of my "New York Hello" finger to include the fingernail down the middle.  That was a real pleasure in the ER when the Doctor stitched it with no numbing what so ever.  He said it would hurt just as much to numb as to stitch, damn sure gets your attention.   The Wife is beginning to believe I have something going with one the of ER Nurses, but we are starting to get on a first name basics. The irony is I am 68 years old and have never spent a night in the hospital, apparently I just like to visit as my senior mishaps are increasing......... .....
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: twowings on April 18, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
LOL...like on the tv show "Home Improvement" whenever Tim 'The Toolman' Taylor walked into the ER (again!) the whole staff turns and yells out "Tim!"  :thumb:
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: LowRyter on April 18, 2017, 03:32:02 PM
yeah...that getting old and working is hard. 

A buddy 67, was building a shed, fell off his ladder twice, fainted after the first lick and hit his head on a coffee table.  Finally went to the ER on the last fall with a dislocated elbow and upon examination add two concussions, a few cracked ribs and two sprained ankles.  They just put his elbow back in place and made him do a bunch of rehab.  When he visited me he wasn't even using a cane.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Ncdan on April 18, 2017, 03:57:18 PM
Do you gentlemen also find that you tend to injure yourself more as time passes.  Within the past six months two trips to the Emergency Room, once while drilling holes in my home made throttle body covers for the Bassa.  The bit broke and drilled between my thumb and fore finger, four stitches. Two weeks ago while trimming the hedges at a tip toe point, the trimmer slipped back and cut the top of my "New York Hello" finger to include the fingernail down the middle.  That was a real pleasure in the ER when the Doctor stitched it with no numbing what so ever.  He said it would hurt just as much to numb as to stitch, damn sure gets your attention.   The Wife is beginning to believe I have something going with one the of ER Nurses, but we are starting to get on a first name basics. The irony is I am 68 years old and h





ave never spent a night in the hospital, apparently I just like to visit as my senior mishaps are increasing......... .....
Good point Brit. I have found that in need to take a little more time and think about what I'm doing more. When I'm worked on something I tend to watch where my fingers and toes are :(
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: bad Chad on April 18, 2017, 04:26:51 PM
Good God, where does this lead too...

I turned 50 this year.  Be it, that I just finished cancer treatment, for the SECOND TIME in 16 years, my body feels a looong way from how it did when I was 30!

But its clear to me now, use it, or loose it!  Enjoy the ride folks, the end comes to dam quick!
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 18, 2017, 05:31:12 PM
Good God, where does this lead too...

I turned 50 this year.  Be it, that I just finished cancer treatment, for the SECOND TIME in 16 years, my body feels a looong way from how it did when I was 30!

But its clear to me now, use it, or loose it!  Enjoy the ride folks, the end comes to dam quick!

That's a fact, Chad.. I've been reminded a couple of times that every day *is* a gift.. make them count.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Joe A. on April 18, 2017, 10:34:45 PM
It's not all bad.

How about a lifetime senior pass to all national parks for $10?  62 and over

https://slickdeals.net/f/10054236-senior-citizens-get-a-lifetime-national-parks-pass-for-10-increasing-to-80-sometime-this-year?v=1 (https://slickdeals.net/f/10054236-senior-citizens-get-a-lifetime-national-parks-pass-for-10-increasing-to-80-sometime-this-year?v=1)


mine last year.
Get it soon, price is going up to $80 if I recall. Got mine last year.
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: Arizona Wayne on April 19, 2017, 01:01:27 AM
mine last year.
Get it soon, price is going up to $80 if I recall. Got mine last year.



Hah, if you guys did it like I did...........fall off a ladder 14' and land on your head, crack your skull.............. ........let the Fed. Govt. pay thousands of $ to get you as good as your going to get afterward since it happened on the Fed. job.........then you get a written letter from your shrink Dr. verifying you're 100% disabled, go to your nearest ranger station and get a Life Time free get into any National Park card  (minus the months of rehab, etc.).  Guess what, I just went looking for that card and realize it was in my wallet I lost last year.  :huh:   Looks like I'm back to square 1.  :cry:
Title: Re: Getting OLD really Sucks
Post by: antmanbee on April 19, 2017, 06:20:01 AM


Hah, if you guys did it like I did...........fall off a ladder 14' and land on your head, crack your skull.............. ........let the Fed. Govt. pay thousands of $ to get you as good as your going to get afterward since it happened on the Fed. job.........then you get a written letter from your shrink Dr. verifying you're 100% disabled, go to your nearest ranger station and get a Life Time free get into any National Park card  (minus the months of rehab, etc.).  Guess what, I just went looking for that card and realize it was in my wallet I lost last year.  :huh:   Looks like I'm back to square 1.  :cry:

Get back on the ladder and start all over again. Worth it to save the 10 bucks.