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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: bpreynolds on June 10, 2017, 06:43:15 AM
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Here I was considering which V7 to buy back after mistakenly selling my V7 Stone a year or so ago. I even started a thread recently on which V7 I should buy. And then this happened. We'll see how it goes. I only have about 60 miles on it so far. It would be highly premature of me to make any judgments or comparisons about it with regard to the other Geese I've owned (Stelvio, V7, Griso, a harem of 1100 Calis) but I will say it shares quite a bit with my favorite of that bunch - the V7. Early impression is the engine is completely, totally submlime. On about 30 miles of country road yesterday it reminded me of why I will always want a Guzzi in my garage as I can't imagine a better brand for that kind of riding. Just bliss. Not much for the windshield here and I doubt it will be staying on the bike.
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Now, that's a pretty bike!
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The engine being "totally sublime" may not be just an impression.
It could actually BE sublime!
Beautiful bike and I hope you have many happy miles together! Looks like a good one. You'll get lots of questions from people along the lines of "Motor Guzzy? Who makes that? .... "
Lannis
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I hope you find happiness and cover a boat load of miles on her ! From the get go I've commented and found the shape of that gas tank fairly unique and wonderful
in an X-75 sort of way.
Enjoy!! :thumb:
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Thanks for the compliments, guys. Eye of the beholder, as they say, but I too think it's just a stunning bike that is much more impressive looking even in person. In fact, I didn't really have intentions of getting a Roamer nor spending that kind of dough but when I saw the thing in front of me there was no going back :thumb:
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I hope you find happiness and cover a boat load of miles on her ! From the get go I've commented and found the shape of that gas tank fairly unique and wonderful
in an X-75 sort of way.
Enjoy!! :thumb:
"X75" is the very first thing I thought when I saw it. I hope they give Craig Vetter credit!
Lannis
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I believe you should have a no cost option to move the foot controls aft. IIRC a kit is included with every bike now and available for the asking for early delivery bikes.
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Looks good! Maybe a smaller windscreen??
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Dart does windscreens for the V9, both Classic and Marlin. Worth a look.
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Yes, for sure will be changing the screen.
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Nice looking bike! Those Roamers look even better in the flesh...
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Congrats on joining a very small and very slowing growing club. We're few and far between but . . . um . . . we're few and far between!
The engine is indeed the star of the show. Spring for some better shocks, you'll be glad you did.
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I can easily see Mr.Roper running down to Starbucks for his Caffe' mocha on one of these.
Murse swaying in the breeze, tarboosh positioned just so...
the very definition of punctiliousness. :bike-037:
Am I right or am I right?
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Here I was considering which V7 to buy back after mistakenly selling my V7 Stone a year or so ago. I even started a thread recently on which V7 I should buy. And then this happened. We'll see how it goes. I only have about 60 miles on it so far. It would be highly premature of me to make any judgments or comparisons about it with regard to the other Geese I've owned (Stelvio, V7, Griso, a harem of 1100 Calis) but I will say it shares quite a bit with my favorite of that bunch - the V7. Early impression is the engine is completely, totally submlime. On about 30 miles of country road yesterday it reminded me of why I will always want a Guzzi in my garage as I can't imagine a better brand for that kind of riding. Just bliss. Not much for the windshield here and I doubt it will be staying on the bike.
Congratulations on your purchase. The V9 is sweet.
I had a totally unplanned extended test ride on a V9 from Bennington, Vt to Guilford, CT last weekend.
I was surprised and impressed riding the bike. loved the mid mount pegs (I have ear sets on my V7). No knee pain when I got home.
Engine was really sweet. loved the 6 speed too. In fact I came pretty close to trading in the V7.
There is a shorter wind screen option available.
Gerry
P.S. where are you located?
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Looks awesome, has anyone tried the guzzi screen about $250. I don't want buffeting. Your bike looks awesome but want smaller screen for my Bobber
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Congrats! See, I told you, pick the one that makes you stop looking... :thumb:
What's wrong with the shield? Seems to have the right DNA...
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Congrats! See, I told you, pick the one that makes you stop looking... :thumb:
What's wrong with the shield? Seems to have the right DNA...
I actually think the screen will make an okay Winter shield. It does a good job mostly but the buffeting is quite bad, worse than clean air even. But in a similar fashion to the barndoor I once had for my Jackal, I'm certain it will seve a better purpose when the temps go dropping for my Winter rides.
Congratulations on your purchase. The V9 is sweet.
Gerry
P.S. where are you located?
Louisville KY.
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Is the screen angle perhaps adjustable, might have just been put on with too much rake.
There's something different about the wheels, is it black spokes or are they extra fat
How about a close up Never mind I clicked on the image.
Lovely bike :bike-037:
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Congrats! It is a beautiful bike. Regarding the buffeting: on my V7 Stone I had to tilt the shield backwarts as much as possible. Then the buffeting vanished.
The sublimeness of the engine: the good thing is that the engine of the V7 III is VERY similar to that of the V9. Only a small bit weaker.
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Yes, for sure will be changing the screen.
There is a much shorter wind screen available.
My dealer had it on display and we tried it out for looks on the V9 I got to ride.
It attaches around the head light and on the front turn signal stalks. I think it was approx $150 or so. i thought it looked pretty sharp.
Gerry
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I borrow my dealer buddies demo last week to ride to bike night. Was completely impressed what a fun and versatile bike.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170611/baaa46d2c0505864e4393f0ae6d0ab6f.jpg)
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Started making some changes already. Guzzi has a really nice kind of guard that cleans up the area right behind the cylinder head; however, I have about a 32 inch inseam and I just kept hitting my chins on them when riding. It was not overly troublesome but I pulled them and so far I like it better as I'm not bumping my chins on the guard. Of course, I did kinda like the clean look of the guard but I'll take the better legroom. Might be a moot point anyhow as I have the European foot controls ordered which supposedly move the pegs/controls back somewhat; thus, I might be able to put the guards back on without much bother after installing the new controls/pegs. Anyhow, pic here of before and after. Not so bad but again, I'm enjoying the extra legroom.
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Might be a moot point anyhow as I have the European foot controls ordered which supposedly move the pegs/controls back somewhat; thus, I might be able to put the guards back on without much bother after installing the new controls/pegs.
Kingoffleece suggested the rearset footpeg option might be "no cost." How much, if anything, will this cost you?
Pretty nice looking! I'm warming to this one, especially in that paint.
Moto
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Beautiful bike! I believe I would position the windshield angled more upright and perhaps cut down its height some. I have similar and smaller shield like that on my RE and it works very well.
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Good to hear the Roamer is a Zen bike! With that and the V7 Moto Guzzi is selling bikes
I don't even use windscreens any more. On my Cal Stone the wind only gets to be a problem around
80mph. In Tn winters aren't bad either so I just bundle up. :thumb:
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I've found on most wind shields that they need to be in the same line as the forks. in the pic it looks like it tilts back too far towards you on top. try kicking the top forward a bit.
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Congrats on the V9. Having ridden one myself, I agree there is MUCH to like.
Re the rear set controls: I have seen a set on a Bobber that Phil has on display. Significant difference in position. 4 inches or so as I recall.
John Henry
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Please keep the updates coming. I have my Stelvio on consignment at a dealer and seriously considering putting the Breva up for sale to purchase a Roamer. These tall heavy big blocks just do not work for me anymore with the arthritis and other age related issues.
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I have the rear sets and I'm guessing its about 4 in. The great thing right now on the Bobber is you get both sets free. At least I did. I'm 6'2" and 225 lbs. Both positions are comfortable to me.
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Had a factory Guzzi shield on my 2016 Stone and found it to be WAY TOO TALL. Changed to A GIVI 620 and am riding happily ever after1
Bill H.
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right now on the Bobber is you get both sets free
Nice.. :thumb:
I can easily see Mr.Roper running down to Starbucks for his Caffe' mocha on one of these.
Murse swaying in the breeze, tarboosh positioned just so...
Uh huh.. :grin:
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I bought a new V9 Roamer last month and I am delighted with it (yellow color). What appeals to me about the bike is the retro, non racer styling. Reminds me of some of the old British bikes I have owned, I have yet to see a negative. I have a Stelvio, and a Harley Softail, but I wanted the V9 for zipping around town. I have put a windscreen and a set of Craven Comet panniers on it, with a large rear rack, so I could see taking longer trips with the bike. Seems like a great all around, smaller motorcycle. I have a feeling that the new V9's will become among their best sellers. One note: I am 6', 230 lbs, with rather long legs. I noticed my shin occasionally touching the intake if I put my foot on the peg in a normal (for me) position. The dealer is forwarding me a set of the mounts to move the pegs farther aft... included in the purchase price. Seems that the folks at Moto Guzzi are aware of the situation with larger riders, and have addressed it. All in all, a great bike.
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I'll get the aft mounts if they're free. But honestly I don't have any complaints about peg position. My 30" inseam has me shin-to-metal sometimes, but it's not really an issue. The bike handles fine for what it is and how I ride it. I don't feel like bending the knees more for better handling would be a good trade off for me.
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My findings with windscreens is that air must move smoothly over its surface. If it hits an upright blunt surface it will cause a turbulence. As the air comes back together and the rider is in that path it will create buffetting. Smooth air is your friend. Getting out of the air is not really the objective, but smoothing it out is often better than trying to totally deflect it away.
My two pennies.
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I'll get the aft mounts if they're free. But honestly I don't have any complaints about peg position. My 30" inseam has me shin-to-metal sometimes, but it's not really an issue. The bike handles fine for what it is and how I ride it. I don't feel like bending the knees more for better handling would be a good trade off for me.
Since removing the guards as pictured earlier in the thread, even my 32" inseam seems pretty much okay but I think I am gonna try and mid mounts. I see they are now on AF1s site.
http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=86966
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My findings with windscreens is that air must move smoothly over its surface. If it hits an upright blunt surface it will cause a turbulence. As the air comes back together and the rider is in that path it will create buffetting. Smooth air is your friend. Getting out of the air is not really the objective, but smoothing it out is often better than trying to totally deflect it away.
My two pennies.
Exactly what I found at my V7 Stone (2013 [Europe] version). I have the original Guzzi windshield, and I had to tilt it as far as possible backwards. Then the buffeting stopped completely.
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Since removing the guards as pictured earlier in the thread, even my 32" inseam seems pretty much okay but I think I am gonna try and mid mounts. I see they are now on AF1s site.
http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=86966
Why would you buy them when other guys here are sayin' they come FREE with the purchase of the bike? Contact the dealer.
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If tilting the windshield doesn't work then try JB's method :) (ie, drill a bunch of holes in the screen).
I'd try an MRA X spoiler screen first :)
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Well, I fit my Madstad to it the other night. Turns out the Roamer has about the same handlebar clamp setup as my KTM 950 so I didn't have to modify it to fit. The Madstad is hardly clean looking but what it does is give me about 5 inches of adjustability as per height and about 3 inches of adjustability as per rake. So we'll see how that goes. I'll post pictures when I can. If you're familiar with Madstad stuff you'll know it's very functional and practical, but hardly attractive for the mounts and arms; yet, it bolts to the handlebar clamp and not the handlebar like most screens so it doesn't slip like so many handlebar mounted screens can.
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Adding my thoughts on my V9 Roamer. Bought it a year ago after years of big block Californias. I wanted smaller, lighter, more agile, etc. This bike fits the bill for me. I have about 15k now. I like it the way it came mostly; removed the charcoal canister and the associated plumbing, removed the passenger footpegs, installed a solo seat, installed a decent horn, removed the "heat shields" that were attached to the middle part of the exhaust, added Hepco Becker hard cases. I bought and installed the Guzzi rear rack for the V9. Didn't like it all all, so removed it.
Although certainly not a performance machine, it feels athletic and quick; easy to ride, and I like that it stands out among the large, heavy, muscular machines that dominate the roads these days.
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Are there seats available for the roamer to enable it be suitable for 2-up riding?
Brian, you change motorcycles about as often as I change underwear. Nice bike; got me thinking about one.
Jon
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Are there seats available for the roamer to enable it be suitable for 2-up riding?
The V9s are what got me interested in Guzzis, but I decided to start small and got a baby Breva, "for now." I'm pretty sure they sell a passenger seat extension for the stock saddle.
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Am I mistaken....or are there NO complaints whatsoever about the stock seat on this bike?
Congrats Brian, sat on one at the show in Indy in February and really really liked it.
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I've seen a yellow one in a dealership. Gorgeous pearl paint. I hate to admit it- but this is one of those machines that you absolutely must see in person to appreciate the lines. I said the same thing about the 1400 - I hated the first pictures. After you see it, though, it becomes clear. Really great sculpting.
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I've seen a yellow one in a dealership. Gorgeous pearl paint. I hate to admit it- but this is one of those machines that you absolutely must see in person to appreciate the lines. I said the same thing about the 1400 - I hated the first pictures. After you see it, though, it becomes clear. Really great sculpting.
I am in the same boat as you
in picture, first impression was V9 has such a small body with longer a$$ skinny fork, but in reality she is a full grown woman with nice slim body design...got everything you want and almost none of the crap you don't care about.
Same goes with 1400, thought was a huge fat lady until I saw her in person in a dealership...wow the curve and comfort when I sat on her...fit like a glove and felt like just meant for you to just ride her into the country for DAYS if not WEEKS...
Didn't have the chance to test ride the 1400, but maybe in the near future.
P.S. hopefully none of you get offensive with my woman figured comparison :kiss:
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Are there seats available for the roamer to enable it be suitable for 2-up riding?
Brian, you change motorcycles about as often as I change underwear. Nice bike; got me thinking about one.
Jon
Am I mistaken....or are there NO complaints whatsoever about the stock seat on this bike?
Congrats Brian, sat on one at the show in Indy in February and really really liked it.
Right now the dual seat you see on some of the newer European models is not yet showing up in the accessories nor stock catalogs. At least that I can tell. But, and I am not certain of this, there may be an option to buy the solo seat and the pillion comfort seat to butt up against it, thereby making the area larger for the pillion. Right now my wife can ride on the back of it with me but it is a tight fit and we are small folks; I do not think it would fit the average 2 Americans. Not an insult. On my rides I've really been surprised by how that pad looking thing performs. Much better to me than the stock seats on my previous Calis.
Jon, I am a disquieted individual and was/am lucky to have found a wonderful lady who somehow agreed to marry me despite many faults. Ever since then I decided I would change bikes rather than wives and it has worked out well so far. And much cheaper too. :thumb: :grin:
I will repeat what I and others have said here that the bike in person is quite stunning, or at least I think so. I am sure the yellow is fantastic too but I have always had a thing for Guzzi whites. The Bassa I once owned had the most gorgeous pearl, and even the white Stelvio I once had was a sharp shade of white. To me and my eyes the Roamer paint here is even more sharp with a kind of sparkle/flake in it.
I still only have about 300 miles on the bike. I can say a great deal about it now that is not tainted with new bike gleam/glow. What I will say is I have been really surprised by the engine so far. I love, love, loved my 2015 V7 Stone and thought/think it was fine as per power. When I got the V9 I expected it to be just a bike with a slight more oomph than the V7 and a similar feel. On the contrary, what I have found myself doing almost every single time I ride the thing is comparing it more to any of the 4 previous 1100 Californias I have owned. And loved. It definitely sounds more like them, engine feels more like them, and roll-on is more like them to me than it is to the V7. I am still unsure of how this is and I keep checking/testing it each time I am out. But there it is every trip. Now, that would be a very much refined 1100, but the engine does feel closer to those bikes than it does to what I recall about the V7 which I never actually thought was a slow or inadequate bike anyhow. From a start, I am really surprised by how quick the thing gets up and goes.
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When I looked at, and then bought, my V9, I assumed I would need a custom seat, which I found necessary on my previous Californias, most recently my 2000 Jackal. The seat on this thing looked to me like a Moto Guzzi ass torture device. I got the Guzzi solo seat and it seemed the same only smaller. But, to my surprise, after 1500k mi and several 450 mi days, the Guzzi solo seat feels fine to my backside. Long days for me these days are 500 mi and so far so good.
Others have commented favorably on the overall bike, and I'll echo those comments by saying my V9 Roamer impresses me as a fun-to-ride all rounder with good balance, agility, and enough muscle to make it real.
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Sounds to me like these new V9s are very much a Guzzi, in the true Guzzi mold, a practical and enjoyable machine. Sounds like a winner!
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Figured I'd update my thread here since it's been a while.
I'm now at 1400 miles on the Roamer and just changed all the fluids (a little late getting to it but been busy riding it :thumb:) and will do the valve adjust this weekend. One very small quibble on the gearbox oil change is I had to drop the brake side exhaust to remove the drain plug as the crossover pipe is in the way of the bolt. Pretty easy job otherwise and the service interval for this job, if you follow the manual, is fantastically long so you won't have to drop it again for a long, long time.
Some notes right off the top:
1) Among all the Guzzi engines I've had (two 8Vs, V7, 1100 Calis, 1200 Norge), this is my favorite engine. My reasons for this will certainly be different from others and some folks may even be turned off by mine. First off, it's surprisingly and impressively quick for what it is. Not fast remotely, but it has a good bit more tug than my previous V7 Stone had and I never thought that bike was lacking for what it is. It gets up and goes as fast or maybe even faster than my previous 1100s. Again, that's not fast but it's plenty fast enough to put a smile on your face when you want and its smaller size makes it a little more fun to throw around too. Second, I love that it's silky smooth. If I needed reminding I'm on a Goose, I'd might have to rev it at stops (I don't), but as far as smooth running once moving, it's that for sure. It has a nice engine tone but is possibly the most tame exhaust note of any Goose I've owned. And I like it like that. I'm getting old and while I still love the sound of a fabulous engine, it does, like me, get old over the miles. It's also got that extra tug I mentioned while still being a super economical machine. I have generally been getting around 47mpg on daily commutes but the one time I took it out for a 300 mile day on a mix of riding roads, it returned 56mpg at the pump at 146 miles and another gallon plus or so to go in the tank. When I first got the bike I was worried I'd miss the big tank of the V7, but honestly, to me anyhow, that's become a moot point as the bike could foreseeably get 180+ miles to the tank if you wanted to take it there. At least that's my perspective on the range issue as I need to get off for a break on pretty much any bike after about 150 plus miles.
2) The seat has been surprisingly great. I maybe gave it 50 miles on expectation but in practice I've found it's the best stock Guzzi seat I've owned. I have no problems staying on it from one tank to the next. The only day I felt inclined to pull out the Airhawk was on the above mentioned 300 mile day.
3) So much seemed to have been made in the press on these bikes as per handling. I can't speak about the Bobber as I haven't ridden one, but I can say this one handles great to me and I have had some spirited rides upon it. It's obviously not my KTM and I'd be stupid to try and take it there, but for what it is, I personally think the bike handles great and I haven't had a lack of confidence in the bike since I've owned it in this regard. I've stuck it in corners at safer speeds, I've very mildly dragged the peg feelers, etc. It didn't slip nor feel unstable to me during any of this. It's a good, capable standard bike that is not a sport nor sporty motorcycle. If you like to push limits on a bike, I might suggest a different bike. I said the same things about my previous and beloved V7. It's been too long since seat time on the V7 to make finer comparisons like handling but if it doesn't handle quite as well as my stock Stone did, it's close enough for me.
4) I have damaged lower discs in my back and because of this, I had a great amount of problems with American forward pegs on the Roamer. It was so bad that for the first two months of ownership leading up to when I got the rearsets, I thought I was gonna have to sell it because of this. I'm sure the American stockers are fine for most folks but I've since gone to the OEM rearsets and life has been significantly better though I still wouldn't say its ergos are as good to me and my back as the V7 was. I still need to get more miles on the bike to judge whether I can live with the rearsets over long trips but for now they are a great improvement. I tried a French brand (Baak) rearsets I got through AF1 and all I can say is don't. They are grossly less finished and poorly designed than the OEM rearsets. But anyhow, just to give you an idea of the difference in seating, here are two photos. One of me with the American forward pegs, and the other with the Baak pegs which, though poorly designed, did help my discs. The OEM rearsets (not pictured but now installed on the bike) are about an inch lower and half inch or so further back than the Baak's pictured in the 2nd photo. I don't have a pic of me on the bike with the Guzzi rearsets or I'd post it here to show. The OEM rearsets are by far my preferable setup. The first pic here might have me exaggerating the slumping a bit but that's what I tended to do with the American stock pegs. My discs hated it and I got kinda annoyed with trying to find ways to situp straight with the more forward controls. Also, a plus for the rearsets is my knees no longer knock into the injector guards.
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5) I added a Guzzi screen and a Givi tail rack with Monokey adaptor plate. As I noted on another thread, it's not as sharp looking as HB or stock stuff, but it gets the job done.
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6) While I really like the dash menu and the control button for it, I equally dislike the turn signal lever. It seems a little cheap and less functional than I recall the V7 Stone's and other Guzzis. Lots of times I must hit it twice or more to get it to activate or turn off immediately. By this I don't mean it's not working; rather, I just mean the click feel, place, and look of it seems odd to me.
7) The gearbox is probably the smoothest of any Guzzi I've had and it's rare I miss any shifts at all on it. Having said this, it is still not even remotely Japanese nor Austrian and I like it this way. There is still that pleasing "clunk" to me when I put it in first. This is familiar and pleasing to me.
8) The clutch is LOUD. Or at least to me it seems loud. The plus is that it is jokingly, ridiculously easy to pull. Maybe the easiest of any bike I have ever owned period. Two fingers easily if you want. In traffic this aspect is a total joy and makes the bike that much more easy to ride around town.
9) Speaking of easy to ride, this one is at least as easy or maybe even moreso than my previous V7. They are close. There is nothing to figure out or anything you must "learn" about it to ride it enjoyably. If you are a rider who likes opening the envelope on a bike, figuring a bike out to exploit it's potential and/or make neat little discoveries, you might be disappointed. It's stone cold stupid easy and predictable to ride. The FI, the brakes, etc. it all behaves spot on, so much that you even forget about this aspect until you get on another bike later and you're reminded, "Oh hey, I never even had to think about this on the V9."
Overall, my discs are still waiting to see how the bike does on longer rides with the more pleasing rearsets, but aside from this issue, I must say I am duly impressed with it. I know some guys on here have serious issues with its looks but hey, as Bobby Brown might say, that's my prerogative. I see some guys on here throwing the "Sportster Clone" tag at it and that's funny because Sportsters are my favorite Harleys LOL and too because it really is nothing like my buddy's 1200 Roadster. Anyhow, just thought I'd update the thread here a bit.
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Great reporting on your impressions with the bike. :thumb:
Hope your back agrees with the mods you are making. Keep the updates coming!
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A great and encouraging report Brian - thanks for taking the time to make it.
One niggle - and it could just be me, but visually I'm not seeing a huge difference in the seating/leg position between those two photos. I see a change in angle of the foot on the peg, but even that. I mean, aren't the positions more similar than not if you're just riding down the road and not actively shifting. I mean isn't there as much a difference on the first pic depending on whether your heel or ball of the foot is on the peg?
Considering your report regarding discomfort with your back on the one and not the other I'm assuming there's more of a difference than we can see - or a small difference makes a big difference in your case? But I'm just not seeing it.
Of course, this coming from a guy who prefers his feet not directly beneath him anyway.
Either way, reports like this make me think I'd love to have a V9 in the fleet someday.
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A great and encouraging report Brian - thanks for taking the time to make it.
One niggle - and it could just be me, but visually I'm not seeing a huge difference in the seating/leg position between those two photos. I see a change in angle of the foot on the peg, but even that. I mean, aren't the positions more similar than not if you're just riding down the road and not actively shifting. I mean isn't there as much a difference on the first pic depending on whether your heel or ball of the foot is on the peg?
Considering your report regarding discomfort with your back on the one and not the other I'm assuming there's more of a difference than we can see - or a small difference makes a big difference in your case? But I'm just not seeing it.
Of course, this coming from a guy who prefers his feet not directly beneath him anyway.
Either way, reports like this make me think I'd love to have a V9 in the fleet someday.
Ha! My discs mandate the total opposite, the more direct beneath me the better, but it should be noted that's due mainly to my damaged discs. It's sorta bizarre, anything that has me bending forward or the opposite, leaning back, will produce discomfort.
Sorry about the photos on the pegs. I admit those photos here are probably not the best examples to see the difference. Do keep in mind the two "peg pictures" in my above post are comparing the stock pegs to the poor Baak brand rearsets. These latter move the pegs about 3-4 inches back but also, unfortunately, move the pegs up about an inch closer to the seat. Also, though Baak claims they bolt right up, I in fact had to install spacers to get them out further away from the frame and the exhaust. I wish I had taken a picture of me on the bike with the Guzzi rearsets that are now installed and can be seen in the 3rd and 4th pictures of my above post. One thing you might use as comparison is the sticker's placement in reference to the pegs in my first slumped photo against this same relationship in my my 3rd and 4th photos where the Guzzi rearsets are installed. But yeah, even that is not gonna convey exactly how much. I'll try and get some better photos for this example. The stock rearsets move you back about 3-4 inches like the Baak brand but unlike the Baak, they don't move your feet up too.
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Brian,
Great report, I have the bobber and everything you have described is right on the money. Just did a 1700 mile trip on mine and would have killed for you air hawk on my 2 six hundred mile days. And yes that damn bolt is blocked by the cross over pipe. By the way it will haul when needed did 200 miles between 85 and 95, dang thing seemed happier at 90 than 80.
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One thing you might use as comparison is the sticker's placement in reference to the pegs in my first slumped photo against this same relationship in my my 3rd and 4th photos where the Guzzi rearsets are installed. But yeah, even that is not gonna convey exactly how much. I'll try and get some better photos for this example. The stock rearsets move you back about 3-4 inches like the Baak brand but unlike the Baak, they don't move your feet up too.
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Yeah, maybe photos 1 and 4 - comparing the yellow/black ENI/AGIP sticker to the peg position sorta shows it.
In 1 the peg looks to be in front of the sticker. In 4 it appears to be behind, though it's hard to tell with the angle.
I think a pick with the same angle of the new pegs would probably illustrate it better if you could.
But the report is excellent and probably tells the whole story.
Nice bike!
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kev,
it may not look it in the photos but when I was at Hamlin's I sat on his demo that has the "move the pegs back kit" and it's a noticable difference in position and feeling compared to "as delivered".
Bikes shipped with the relocation kit at N/C so customer has option.
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I really need to ride one for myself. I'm not doubting you guys, I just wonder how subjective the difference is, or conversely if the change would actually be a negative to me.
I'm weird, and I'm really good with that.
But I am liking the V9 more and more.
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I really need to ride one for myself. I'm not doubting you guys, I just wonder how subjective the difference is, or conversely if the change would actually be a negative to me.
I'm weird, and I'm really good with that.
But I am liking the V9 more and more.
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I'm glad to see that the V9 is finally getting some love. Kev -- given your ergonomic preferences, I'd bet that you'd be very happy with the V9.
As for me, I'd never have liked the V9 with the original foot peg position, but, now that they've moved them back, it is more interesting to me. Even the styling has grown on me a little. I was hoping to ride one the demo-truck day that was a couple hours away from me a few weeks back, but, couldn't get off work to get out there. One of these days I'll ride one. I bet I'll like it.
At the end of the day, I still like the V7 styling more. If Guzzi ever puts the V9 motor in the V7, I'll likely buy one.
I'd love to see some sales numbers on the V9. When I talked to Walter at Europa Machinna last year, they hadn't sold one yet, and word was that they were a sales flop across the whole country.
Hopefully they're catching on now, not just among WildGuzzi members, but, hopefully, they're drawing new riders into the Guzzi fold.
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Here's the best picture peg example I can offer quickly this morning. Looking at the photo here my finger is where the stock pegs WERE. Hope this helps at least a little in better understanding the American versus Euro peg setup.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/jXyhaQ/IMG_20170722_091046.jpg) (http://ibb.co/jXyhaQ)
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Here's the best picture peg example I can offer quickly this morning. Looking at the photo here my finger is where the stock pegs WERE. Hope this helps at least a little in better understanding the American versus Euro peg setup.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/jXyhaQ/IMG_20170722_091046.jpg) (http://ibb.co/jXyhaQ)
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Thx
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I'd love to see some sales numbers on the V9. When I talked to Walter at Europa Machinna last year, they hadn't sold one yet, and word was that they were a sales flop across the whole country.
Hopefully they're catching on now, not just among WildGuzzi members, but, hopefully, they're drawing new riders into the Guzzi fold.
:1: Hope so too.
But if they don't and Guzzi drops them, then my garage will then contain two short lived, mostly lauded, personally loved but publicly shunned motorcycles :grin: in the KTM 950 Supermoto and the Roamer :thumb:
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Yikes! Went last night to do the valve check, started to remove the spark plug covers on the head, and wowey zowey were those things torqued in there. I was using a hex socket and several of them just refused to budge and even began to strip the hex head. I�ll have to figure out some way of getting those 3 remaining out without damaging their respective cylinder head holes.
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Damn! Mine were a piece of cake!
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I think I'm gonna try the OEM rearsets just as an experiment.
Now if I could figure out how to get breynolds' bi/triceps. Library books heavy lifting?
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I think I'm gonna try the OEM rearsets just as an experiment.
Now if I could figure out how to get breynolds' bi/triceps. Library books heavy lifting?
Hahahahahahaha! Adan, it's just my right arm :wink:
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Hey Jack,
Do you still have the rear rack?
Want to sell it if so?
Thanks,
Jack aka inditx
Adding my thoughts on my V9 Roamer. Bought it a year ago after years of big block Californias. I wanted smaller, lighter, more agile, etc. This bike fits the bill for me. I have about 15k now. I like it the way it came mostly; removed the charcoal canister and the associated plumbing, removed the passenger footpegs, installed a solo seat, installed a decent horn, removed the "heat shields" that were attached to the middle part of the exhaust, added Hepco Becker hard cases. I bought and installed the Guzzi rear rack for the V9. Didn't like it all all, so removed it.
Although certainly not a performance machine, it feels athletic and quick; easy to ride, and I like that it stands out among the large, heavy, muscular machines that dominate the roads these days.
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At our local Wasaga Beach Bike show I closely looked at a new V9 Roamer on display. The smaller size compared to my Cali II looked just great ... but then I noticed the severe angles for the driveshaft U joints required to clear the wide rear wheel. :undecided:
On our farm we always try to run the PTO shafts with the tractor as straight as possible to avoid excessive wear and stress on the U joints.
Does anyone else have a concern for the U-joint twists and turns on the V9 models?? :bike-037:
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At our local Wasaga Beach Bike show I closely looked at a new V9 Roamer on display. The smaller size compared to my Cali II looked just great ... but then I noticed the severe angles for the driveshaft U joints required to clear the wide rear wheel. :undecided:
On our farm we always try to run the PTO shafts with the tractor as straight as possible to avoid excessive wear and stress on the U joints.
Does anyone else have a concern for the U-joint twists and turns on the V9 models?? :bike-037:
Maybe that's part of the reason why the V9 is the first small block with a double u joint driveshaft! I wouldn't worry about it... The dual sport TT and NTX bikes we're single u joint with a much more extreme angle.
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Long post here, folks, so get yourself locked in for the reading that is vastly less exciting than a McGregor/Mayweather bout. Or just change the channel. I couldn't blame ya.
So me and the Roamer are now at about 2100 or so miles. As I mentioned in my earlier update, it is still and proving to be more so with each mile, my absolute favorite Guzzi engine bar none. I just can't get over it, how efficient it is, how smooth it is even at speeds of 85 and (gasp) 90 on the highway, how powerful it is relatively speaking, how charming it is overall. It's a winner for damn sure.
And yes, even given all this I still teeter back and forth on keeping it or not given my lower back issues. After a long ride recently I had even decided it wasn't going to work out for me and the bike and my back but just yesterday I changed my mind and decided it is just too gorgeous and too pleasing to give up on it. Even with the much improved factory rearsets on the bike it is not as comfortable for me over the long haul as my previous V7 Stone was which located the pegs more under your butt per se. This is, however, not the bike's fault and it is solely my damaged discs. Anyone with a lower back in decent shape should find the ergos pretty great. I continue to experiment with this and perhaps even some Vario rotating pegs are in the works to even get further back and down. But I can get significant miles on the bike without too much pain/discomfort so I feel like I'm getting closer on it though it still annoys me after about 100 miles or so. Here are two pics from a recent trip to Bloomington and then last night to wonderful Madison Indiana.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4424/36030609733_28ebc1b585_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WTUhZc)IMG_5794 (https://flic.kr/p/WTUhZc) by Brian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/flickr_bri/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4440/36030612103_f6f66a8397_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WTUiG4)IMG_5833 (https://flic.kr/p/WTUiG4) by Brian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/flickr_bri/), on Flickr
If you look super closely, you'll notice the cheapy plastic eagles are not on the tank and the explanation below; yet, I'm strangely starting to like the tank better without them.
So, even aside from the ergos, however, it hasn't all been champaign and roses. A few very small things but one big one here shown. The Roamer's kickstand leans the bike over significantly which is a factor here and too, the Roamer's factory gas cap - but maybe it's just mine? - doesn't seem to really lock down/seal well when fully closed. Anyhow, so three weeks back I fill up the bike like I have on many occasions just prior to returning to the house. I usually fill it up not over but to near the top. I park the bike in the garage and fate would have it that I don't drive it for about 4 days as the KTM takes on some miles - oh the luck and joy of the man with a multi bike garage :). Four days later I pull the Roamer out and notice this pictured here which at first glance looks very much like someone left a urinary comment all over the top and side of my gas tank spreading down from the cap. This picture really only shows a portion of it as the gas stain was much larger on the top of the tank running down to this area pictured.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4412/36030614543_3f0c8e14c7_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WTUjq8)IMG_20170805_184839_resized_20170806_085455030 (https://flic.kr/p/WTUjq8) by Brian (https://www.flickr.com/photos/flickr_bri/), on Flickr
In all my years of riding and many, many bikes, getting some gas on the tank of a bike has never been that big of a deal at least for me - and there has been times I'm embarrassed to say when I got a LOT of gas on a tank and it didn't get cleaned off for whatever reason. But none of those instances did this. I tried washing it off, I tried waxing it off, I tried buffing it off, I tried using Maguire's Scratch X, I tried using rubbing compound as a last resort. Nothing, nothing was seeming to bring it off. So I guess the full tank of gas combined with the heavily leaning side stand, the cap that doesn't seal so well, and sitting in the garage for 4 days with the gas just seeping out of it produced this. I don't know enough about paint to say the Roamer's admittedly gorgeous paint is any more soft than any other paint under the same circumstances, but I am saying this has never happened before with me and since this, I've been super careful to not fill the tank too close to the top. Others with a V9 "may" want to take care to do the same.
I ultimately had to remove the tank and take it to my body guy who said the stain had gotten down into the clear coat but not all the way to the paint; thus, he didn't have to paint the tank but did have to sand it, retouch the pin striping, and - to protect against further incidents such as this - put about 3 layers of his premium grade clear coat on it. So all's well that ends well in regard to this and the tank has been returned to stock, or maybe even better than stock with the extra clear coating on it. But oh well. Something to look out for if you're a V9 owner, fill your tank up, and park the bike for extended time. And as I said, I'm kinda liking the tank without the eagles which, man oh man, are they some cheap plastic :)
Aside from this and very minor, I was slightly surprised at all the aluminum foil heat guard that has fallen down out of the exhaust area underneath the metal heat shields. Doesn't surprise me as it was just glued in there but sorta disappointing on a new bike to look down at various times and see browned aluminum foil falling out around the lower exhaust. But that's a nit I'm picking.
Additionally, I've gotta say I sorta hate the design that, I guess(?), Guzzi adopted around '15 forward where the V7, and now V9s too, have the one cover over the entire front portion of the engine. I went to do the valve check and was surprised to find this. If I recall correctly, previous models ('14 and before, I think) had a cover (with Moto Guzzi logo) you could remove to reveal the crank that could be spun to yield TDC for valve checks and such. If I understand this correctly on the '15 forward bikes this is all one giant cover so to speak. Unless you want to park the bike up in sixth and spin the wheel, your only option to get TDC is to remove this one giant pita cover with like 14 bolts or something (and one hidden so ridiculously tight and odd as to make you question design logic). You'll also incur oil loss so be prepared with pan underneath. Anyway, also a minor nit so to speak.
All in all it is proving to be a wonderful bike. If I wasn't to blame in part for tank I guess I'd be more upset; yet, I do think that is a cheapy crap cap. I'll look at some ways of possibly making it a better sealer since I don't think (?) there is an option out there right now for replacement.
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Good report. Thanks for the fair assessment of things. Bummer on the paint and glad you were able to get it worked out, literally. No doubt it cost you a couple bucks to do that too.
I'm not sure how the tank vents, but you might consider that as an alternative to the cap. Of course that would involve getting rid of the charcoal canister and the one way valve in the vent tube. At least any fuel that would get expelled would drip under the bike rather than the tank.
My very short experience riding a V9 was a positive one. Like you, I was very impressed with the motor. It delivered more than I was expecting, which was a very pleasant surprise. Sounds like you may be getting the ergos dialed in to your liking. Hopefully you find the right combination to suit you.
John Henry
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As much as I like to spin the front of the crankshaft for my valve checks I think the wet alternator would make me a rear tire spinner for sure.
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As much as I like to spin the front of the crankshaft for my valve checks I think the wet alternator would make me a rear tire spinner for sure.
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Good report. Thanks for the fair assessment of things. Bummer on the paint and glad you were able to get it worked out, literally. No doubt it cost you a couple bucks to do that too.
Yes, he says :grin:
I try and take comfort in that it was significantly less than a paint job and tremendously less than a new tank. For a while there, though, I was liking the idea of a matte blue or green Roamer similar to the new Stones :boozing:
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Can't tell you how much I appreciate these updates. I'm still honeymooning with my Roamer, going in for the 900-mile service and farklefest this week -- Agostinis, engine protectors, tail rack and bag, flyscreen.
I have a smaller frame of reference when it comes to Guzzis, but the Roamer seems a perfect compromise between my former nimble but slightly underpowered V7 Cafe Classic and the Griso 8V, which was beastly in both power and heft. Most of my riding is on those country two-lane roads you mentioned, and the aptly named Roamer is perfect for exploring at a pace that's brisk but not balls to the wall.
Everything you said about the V9 engine and drivetrain are true. It doesn't run out of passing power as quickly as the V7, yet I can use more of its power in everyday riding without risking life and license than I could with the Griso. The tranny gets smoother with every mile, and though it's hard to tell without a tach, the tall sixth gear makes it feel as if the Roamer is more relaxed at 75+ than the Griso.
Only real complaint so far is the gear whine at low speeds around town. With the stock mufflers, it sounds like an electric bike in the lower gears. The dealer says that will quiet down with the gearbox oil change. Hope so, but at least the Agostinis should help drown it out!
The ergos are near perfect for me at 5'9". No complaints about the seat as a solo rider. The Bobber seat is a torture device, but while the Roamer seat looks the same it is firm without being as hard. IMHO the bigger dual seat Piaggio is sending out as a replacement on newer models after reviewer complaints is butt-ugly, in addition to not fitting with the current tail rack.
Even with the OEM rearsets, I could stand to have the pegs a little farther back. Maybe it just takes getting used to, but I find myself scraping the inside of my calves when putting my feet down at a light.
All in all, the bike is a beauty to look at and ride, and I'm glad I made the switch. Thanks for sharing your experiences and the warning about the filler cap. Those eagles may be cheap and plastic, but I'm proud of them!
(http://thumb.ibb.co/gNoeU5/IMG_2861.jpg) (http://ibb.co/gNoeU5)
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Can't tell you how much I appreciate these updates. I'm still honeymooning with my Roamer, going in for the 900-mile service and farklefest this week -- Agostinis, engine protectors, tail rack and bag, flyscreen.
I have a smaller frame of reference when it comes to Guzzis, but the Roamer seems a perfect compromise between my former nimble but slightly underpowered V9 Cafe Classic and the Griso 8V, which was beastly in both power and heft. Most of my riding is on those country two-lane roads you mentioned, and the aptly named Roamer is perfect for exploring at a pace that's brisk but not balls to the wall.
Everything you said about the V9 engine and drivetrain are true. It doesn't run out of passing power as quickly as the V7, yet I can use more of its power in everyday riding without risking life and license than I could with the Griso. The tranny gets smoother with every mile, and though it's hard to tell without a tach, the tall sixth gear makes it feel as if the Roamer is more relaxed at 75+ than the Griso.
Only real complaint so far is the gear whine at low speeds around town. With the stock mufflers, it sounds like an electric bike in the lower gears. The dealer says that will quiet down with the gearbox oil change. Hope so, but at least the Agostinis should help drown it out!
The ergos are near perfect for me at 5'9". No complaints about the seat as a solo rider. The Bobber seat is a torture device, but while the Roamer seat looks the same it is firm without being as hard. IMHO the bigger dual seat Piaggio is sending out as a replacement on newer models after reviewer complaints is butt-ugly, in addition to not fitting with the current tail rack.
Even with the OEM rearsets, I could stand to have the pegs a little farther back. Maybe it just takes getting used to, but I find myself scraping the inside of my calves when putting my feet down at a light.
All in all, the bike is a beauty to look at and ride, and I'm glad I made the switch. Thanks for sharing your experiences and the warning about the filler cap. Those eagles may be cheap and plastic, but I'm proud of them!
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Honestly, I probably will put the eagles back on but kinda digging it without them for now :thumb: And too, thanks for mentioning the gearbox as, like you, I have found it very nice though it still has that pleasing clunk down into 1st that I strangely enjoy.
As per the stock seat, I'm sorta in the opposite boat. A little. I've been surprised by how much better it has been for me than stock seats on any of the 4 previous 1100 Calis I owned - especially more kind to my derriere than the Jackal stocker which was, to this day even, the most hardcore stock seat I've ever experienced on a bike - and I own a KTM!!! :bike-037: :laugh: I can usually get about 100 comfortable miles out of the stock seat before the Airhawk comes out. But like you, I have been brainstorming things. I actually think the Roamer would look sharp with one of those Harper style single pan solo seats but nobody is obviously making one for now.
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I paid a visit to a Guzzi
Dealer in Auckland recently hoping to get a ride on a Roamer or Bobber. I like the look of Roamer over Bobber but was itching to try either.
Dealer had a bunch of Guzzis in a glass sided container which made quite a nice display.
They had a demo Bobber but when I asked for a ride the sales guy fobbed me off and said a v7II would be a better option for me. Come back when you've sold your old Cali 1100i and I'll give you the best deal in town.
So I looked at other bikes he had then retreated across the road for a nice latte with the missus and it started bucketing down.
I was left feeling disappointed not to had a ride but glad not to be like a drowned rat .
No way I'll be buying my new bike from that plonker lol.
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They had a demo Bobber but when I asked for a ride the sales guy fobbed me off and said a v7II would be a better option for me. Come back when you've sold your old Cali 1100i and I'll give you the best deal in town.
Innit odd how people who are supposedly smart enough to make a living selling motorcycle will do stupid stuff like that?
Back around 2000, before Jack Arnold introduced me to Guzzi, I was looking for a roadster to complement my BSA (my only bike at the time). Kawasaki had just come out with the ZR-7, which I thought was a really nice looking bike and was just the type of bike I wanted.
Went to the Kawasaki shop and they had a nice blue one. I had the money in my pocket, was sitting on the bike in showroom, and it felt good - light, good seating position, etc. As I was sitting on it, the salesman came up. "I'd like to test ride one of these, if you have a demo model available."
The salesman smiled pityingly and shook his head gently in a "what fools these mortals be" way. "Come over here", says he, "I think this is what you're going to want!"
So he sat me down on a Vulcan 1700 Classic. Huge fat low heavy motorcycle, the exact antithesis of what I was wanting. Handlebar grips about 4 feet apart, footboards way out in front. "Now THIS is a highway bike, you'd get a neckache riding that other bike, THIS is what you need for riding with your friends and enjoying the road."
I didn't argue with him. I said "Thanks", left the shop, and haven't been back in it since, even though they sell Yamahas too which makes several bikes I might want. Went and bought a Centauro and lived happily ever after.
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Innit odd how people who are supposedly smart enough to make a living selling motorcycle will do stupid stuff like that?
Back around 2000, before Jack Arnold introduced me to Guzzi, I was looking for a roadster to complement my BSA (my only bike at the time). Kawasaki had just come out with the ZR-7, which I thought was a really nice looking bike and was just the type of bike I wanted.
Went to the Kawasaki shop and they had a nice blue one. I had the money in my pocket, was sitting on the bike in showroom, and it felt good - light, good seating position, etc. As I was sitting on it, the salesman came up. "I'd like to test ride one of these, if you have a demo model available."
The salesman smiled pityingly and shook his head gently in a "what fools these mortals be" way. "Come over here", says he, "I think this is what you're going to want!"
So he sat me down on a Vulcan 1700 Classic. Huge fat low heavy motorcycle, the exact antithesis of what I was wanting. Handlebar grips about 4 feet apart, footboards way out in front. "Now THIS is a highway bike, you'd get a neckache riding that other bike, THIS is what you need for riding with your friends and enjoying the road."
I didn't argue with him. I said "Thanks", left the shop, and haven't been back in it since, even though they sell Yamahas too which makes several bikes I might want. Went and bought a Centauro and lived happily ever after.
Lannis
Yeh, he probably saw us roll up in our campervan and figured I was some tyre kicking old fart. And he would be right :-)
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Here's my one. Passed my Mod2 just over a week ago and this was my treat to myself.
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Here's my one. Passed my Mod2 just over a week ago and this was my treat to myself.
Sharp. I like that red. You'll love it, I'm sure.
Sadly, I thought I was getting closer on getting the ergos worked out on mine to accomodate my bad discs, but alas, it does go on. Took the bike out yesterday afternoon for about 100 mile spin and had bad sciatic pain in my legs last night. Of course, that was only after riding three straight days of 100 plus mile jaunts so might just have been the cumulative effect of that more so than anything. But still. :rolleyes: Friggin' discs. It frustrates me a good bit. I can ride my KTM with no major back issues, sometimes up to and over 400 mile days. The V7 was "mostly" the same or at least seemingly much easier on my back. My back just gets pickier and pickier as I get older on what it finds comfortable and what it doesn't. Mainly thankful I still can ride the Katoom on those long days. As mentioned earlier, I may try to see if the rotating Vario pegs for the Griso would also fit the Roamer's peg mounts. But that would be rearsets on top of the factory rearsets. I've done this before with bikes and my back, though, where I start chasing down comfort and ergos gremlins to try and appease my back. Kinda like trying to make deals with terrorists in a way. Sometimes works, oftentimes not. And too, you start to wonder when you look at if if you're making a bike into something it was never really meant to be per se. Yesterday on the majority of the ride home I was most comfortable leaning forward with my feet on the passenger pegs.
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I am enjoying it very much. Still getting my head round it all. The experience is very different from the Honda NC750 I trained on. The throttle is super-sensitive - these sudden surges can be a little alarming if in the wrong context. But I'm learning to twist it much more gently. The rear brake is a disappointment - at first I took it back to the dealer convinced that it wasn't working. But they tested it on some machine and said it was working fine. It's hardly there - and certainly nowhere near as effective as the Honda - which is something I will need to get used to. I have nothing to compare it to - but read many reviews saying it was a nice first bike. It certainly draws lots of comments from strangers. I can't think what I would get if I decided to change it. Maybe a Street Twin.
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While my back and the V9 continue the debate on whether or not they can ultimately live together, I am continuing on as if they are getting along splendidly :thumb: and installed an ADVMonster Native H4 http://stores.advmonster.com/native-h4/ in the Roamer. Maybe $44 tops including shipping; not kidding. This is my 4th Native I've purchased (all for different bikes) and they never disappoint. Still have one in my KTM now for probably the last 10k miles or more. I never get flashed by oncoming motorists and difference on the road is tremendous after dark and even during the day where I am much more easily spotted by other drivers. Wish I had done some before and after photos with the Roamer but oh well. On the V9 it is basically plug and play but you do have to remove and say sayonara to the mostly decorative black interior ring inside the headlight housing.
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Good to know about the lamp replacement. Almost ashamed to admit I haven't yet had the need to ride after dark, but I know stock Guzzi headlights leave something to be desired.
As for your back issues, have you tried backing off the preload? I'm 170 pounds or so stripped, and there was barely any sag when I saddled up at the factory setting. Dealer dialed it down a notch at the 1000k and the suspension isn't nearly as harsh.
I also invested in some farkles; OEM tail rack and bag (nice looking and versatile), TourMaster Coaster CL saddlebags (much cheaper than OEM and no permanent mounts, perfect for occasional weekenders), engine protectors (mostly bling, but may save repair costs in the event of a slide), Agostini slip-ons (now it sounds like a V-twin), and the OEM Roamer flyscreen.
The flyscreen was the only disappointment. At 5'9", the deflected air hit me right in the face. The noise level and buffeting were much worse with the screen than without, and there was no way to adjust rake or height.
I returned it, and ordered a Dart original. Had one of those on the old V7, and it did exactly what I needed -- took some wind off the chest at highway speed and protected the gauge electronics in the rain.
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Sharp. I like that red. You'll love it, I'm sure.
Sadly, I thought I was getting closer on getting the ergos worked out on mine to accomodate my bad discs, but alas, it does go on. Took the bike out yesterday afternoon for about 100 mile spin and had bad sciatic pain in my legs last night. Of course, that was only after riding three straight days of 100 plus mile jaunts so might just have been the cumulative effect of that more so than anything. But still. :rolleyes: Friggin' discs. It frustrates me a good bit. I can ride my KTM with no major back issues, sometimes up to and over 400 mile days. The V7 was "mostly" the same or at least seemingly much easier on my back. My back just gets pickier and pickier as I get older on what it finds comfortable and what it doesn't. Mainly thankful I still can ride the Katoom on those long days. As mentioned earlier, I may try to see if the rotating Vario pegs for the Griso would also fit the Roamer's peg mounts. But that would be rearsets on top of the factory rearsets. I've done this before with bikes and my back, though, where I start chasing down comfort and ergos gremlins to try and appease my back. Kinda like trying to make deals with terrorists in a way. Sometimes works, oftentimes not. And too, you start to wonder when you look at if if you're making a bike into something it was never really meant to be per se. Yesterday on the majority of the ride home I was most comfortable leaning forward with my feet on the passenger pegs.
Mebbie a silly question but do you wear a back brace of some sort while riding ?
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As for your back issues, have you tried backing off the preload? I'm 170 pounds or so stripped, and there was barely any sag when I saddled up at the factory setting. Dealer dialed it down a notch at the 1000k and the suspension isn't nearly as harsh.
The flyscreen was the only disappointment. At 5'9", the deflected air hit me right in the face. The noise level and buffeting were much worse with the screen than without, and there was no way to adjust rake or height.
Yup, tried the shock adjustment.
You are doing such phenomenal job with your Roamer. Kudos to you. I too invested in the MG fly screen. Looks fabulous but like you, I found it terribly deficient on highway rides or longer stints in the saddle than about 50 miles. Better than nothing but not by much. I did a red suspenders worthy job of taking a handlebar mounted touring screen I wasn't using in the garage, removed the hardware, and drilled holes to mount directly to the MG fly arms. Working much better but I do admit a big screen on the Roamer spoils the looks a bit. I had a Dart on my previous '15 V7 Stone and it was a very well made, fine screen for the warmer months here in Louisville.
Mebbie a silly question but do you wear a back brace of some sort while riding ?
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Not silly at all, Kev. But no, not yet. I guess it comes down to what I want from a bike and how much I'm willing to do to in terms of modifications to make it so called comfortable for my bad back when there are bikes out there that I know don't much aggravate it at all. I ride the KTM 400 plus miles a day when touring, get off it, and walk around fresh and fine (though my butt would disagree LOL). The V7 I had before didn't seem to bother my back nearly as much either and I took it on some 1400 mile round trip tours that went really well. The one thing the KTM and the V7 have in common as opposed to the Roamer is they both have taller seat heights and position my feet more directly under me bum.
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Taking John's advice I have backed the springs off preload even furthe, almost all the way down. We'll see how that goes. Also, I got tired of shopping and dropping cash to adjust the pegs; I sourced all materials from a local hardware store built my own :thumb: :laugh: These set the pegs back about another 2 inches behind where the OEM rearsets reside. If that works out I'll post more about it. Not the work of a fine craftsman :sad: but hey, cost me about $15 total so it's the best I could do. Report back on this maybe following today's ride of about 130 miles or so.
As the bike sits today. Man, I can't be bashful about saying I personally think this is a gorgeous bike (if you ignore my giant windscreen).
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No apologies needed for the windshield, the Roamed wears it well!
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Pegs look professional to me.. :thumb:
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It IS a gorgeous bike, and you are making it your own! Keep the updates coming.
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...The rear brake is a disappointment - at first I took it back to the dealer convinced that it wasn't working. But they tested it on some machine and said it was working fine. It's hardly there - and certainly nowhere near as effective as the Honda - which is something I will need to get used to. I have nothing to compare it to - but read many reviews saying it was a nice first bike. It certainly draws lots of comments from strangers. I can't think what I would get if I decided to change it. Maybe a Street Twin.
The V7 II rear brake could be described the same. OK for slowing before or in curves, but not much for stopping.
Nothing like my 2012 Triumph Bonneville...but I don't use the brakes much, anyway.
Triumph build quality is very good.
I am enjoying this V9 Roamer thread. Only "negative", in comparison to the V7 II, that I have noticed is less fuel capacity.
The 5.8 gallon tank has spoiled me!
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Got in about 165 miles or so on the bike today. Went up into Indiana to Patoka Lake and Winery. Not "there" yet but adjustment to the shocks a definite improvement as per my back and new location for pegs did a bit better too. We'll see. Didn't have time to put on my Madstad before leaving and because I was doing about 80 miles highway work I put on the barndoor. Crappy looking maybe but it gets the job done on the interstate. It was actually a large bar mounted screen I had in the garage that I removed the hardware and drilled holes to mount directly to the MG screen arms. It's not as good as my adjustable Madstad as stated, it works on the big roads.
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Looks like it was a beautiful day for a ride. Glad the mods seem to be doing the trick; it's obvious you're loving this bike in spite of some adjustment pains.
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Looks like it was a beautiful day for a ride. Glad the mods seem to be doing the trick; it's obvious you're loving this bike in spite of some adjustment pains.
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It was a great holiday weekend in the Old Dominion, too! After the break-in miles and first service, my Roamer is finally coming into its own. Savored a couple of back-to-back hundred-mile days on my favorite bike loops. (Sorry, no photos. Couldn't bring myself to stop long enough to take any.)
Remembering the comment about the V9 being your favorite Guzzi engine ever, I stumbled across this year-old article on the evolution of the V-twin. Most of it went over my head, but it seems to corroborate that opinion -- which I share.
http://www.cycleworld.com/moto-guzzi-v9-motorcycle-engine-history-and-evolution (http://www.cycleworld.com/moto-guzzi-v9-motorcycle-engine-history-and-evolution)
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I've been enjoying this thread as well. Yesterday I had a Roamer for the day while my Cali was in for its 12,000 mile service. I had tried it once before, and continue to be impressed. The motor is a delight and well served by the gearing, and I found the ergonomics quite comfortable. It doesn't have performance pretensions, but is a friendly, solid feeling daily runabout. The only complaint I have is that the deployment and retraction of the sidestand is quite awkward.
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When I had my LM3 I also had trouble with my back. Since I was going for the chopper look :embarrassed: I put this seat on it:
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It was extremely comfy. It was not a seat that looks like the old-timy floaty seat just for looks, but one that actually worked. You can set pre-load to adjust for your weight. When test-riding a V9 earlier this week (yey !) I had them lift the stock seat to see if this was mountable. With some simple fabricating using bar end etc mounting should be no issue. I think also the mechanism can be copied to use a mountainbike spring and a metal frame work supporting the stock seat...
I'll see if I can find my old photo album (the book version) for a picture of this on my LM3
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Maybe the Back-A-Line would be a good choice? https://www.backaline.com/collections/frontpage/products/back-support-with-lumbar-pad-deluxe?variant=43243483790
It didn't work for me, due to the passenger seat rise interference, but if you have a flat seat it should be the bees knees! I have one in XL that I only used 3 times, its essentially unused. I'll ship it to anyone who wants it for $24.00, just PM me.
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Backing the preload out to almost 2 or 3 notches from the bottom, using my "homemade" rearsets which place the pegs about 2-3 inches further back than even the OEM rearsets, and removing the Rox pivoting risers (going back to stock setup) have all helped considerably. My ride of about 165 miles - noted in earlier pics - was much more kind to my bad discs. It is the most success I've had thus far with my alterations and I would daresay it's beginning to get very close to my former V7 in terms of ergonomic setup that doesn't aggravate my discs. The ergos adjustments mainly put my feet more directly under my butt and also forces my upper body slightly more forward, putting me into a place where it is not so easy to just slump onto my lower back. These adjustments also take the weight off the very rear part of my rear while letting my legs do a small bit of the support too. I am already thinking of a 3 or 4 day trip to take with the bike.
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Just get on your bike and ride!
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Coming right along Brian, good for you!
Sarah
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Post Irma rains here in KY this past week kept me off the bike mostly. Today brought the Sun out and I managed to install these semi-rigid Saddlemen bags. I didn't have a rack so it was back to the hardware store to buy about a 10"/1" metal strip and drill some holes in it to go inside the bags as mount points. I then attached the bags to the bike via the shock hole, running a bolt through the interior metal strip inside the bags through to the shock mount. Had to use about a 1" plastic spacer between these to get it off the shock. Seems to work pretty well thus far. I used some zip ties on the left and right bottom of the bags where the shoe strings would typically go. I like the look of the bags and I'm not even typically a saddlebag kinda guy so to speak, but I think they compliment the Roamer which is more than I can say for that functional and fugly Madstad screen :thumb: :grin:
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Very nice looking!
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I love hardware store solutions, excellent job!
Sarah
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I really like the purposeful look of this bike, mainly because it's all focused on riding it.
Along those lines, how are you getting along with the stock seat? Visually, the seat flows with the bike, but on the road with you sitting on it for hours .... ??
Lannis
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I really like the purposeful look of this bike, mainly because it's all focused on riding it.
Along those lines, how are you getting along with the stock seat? Visually, the seat flows with the bike, but on the road with you sitting on it for hours .... ??
Lannis
Better than you'd imagine, actually. As I've mentioned before, when I first got the bike I looked at that seat and thought maybe 50 miles tops. And believe you me I know bad seats. The stocker on my KTM deserves its reputation and I can only make it about 60-65 miles before the Airhawk comes out. Worst stock seat I've ever personally experienced on a motorcycle was probably the Jackal's I used to own (wonderful bike, though) where 50 miles even was a near impossibility - at least from my rear's perspective. I can, however, surprisingly and easily get to my first tank up on the Roamer which is usually about 120-130 miles. If I go more than that I do prefer bring out that trusted butt Hawk.
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Got the highway pegs put on for the Roamer today. Or as Givi likes to call them, engine guards. They are sufficient for a drop if it happens but not much else and that is okay. There are better engine guards out there to buy for sure, but these here I really did get them to serve dual duty as drop guards but also a place to very shortly stretch my legs on longer rides. Hoping to leave for north GA with Roamer on Wednesday.
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Good enough, thanks for the pictures. Looking forward to that ride report.
Sarah
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:drool: Looking really good. I like the shield and bags. Fit the bike perfect! Enjoy your ride.
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:drool: Looking really good. I like the shield and bags. Fit the bike perfect! Enjoy your ride.
Thanks for the compliments on the bags. I tried to get ones that I think are functional and serve the lines of the bike. I always thought slanted bags would look sharp on the Roamer. In earlier photos on this very page I had some smaller, Saddlemen brand bags that visually I thought were too small and they were also flimsy being only rigid on the bottom. These here are Built brand, a typically cheaper brand in quality and price; yet, they were more expensive than the Saddlemen and they show it, having clip and also velcro option for opening/closing the tops and, more importantly, are rigid on all sides. I fabricated my own mounts for them that go through the shock bolt. I'll have to post that setup sometime. Nothing professional but it only cost me about $15 for parts and has worked well thus far (fingers crossed).
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Thanks for the compliments on the bags. I tried to get ones that I think are functional and serve the lines of the bike. I always thought slanted bags would look sharp on the Roamer. In earlier photos on this very page I had some smaller, Saddlemen brand bags that visually I thought were too small and they were also flimsy being only rigid on the bottom. These here are Built brand, a typically cheaper brand in quality and price; yet, they were more expensive than the Saddlemen and they show it, having clip and also velcro option for opening/closing the tops and, more importantly, are rigid on all sides. I fabricated my own mounts for them that go through the shock bolt. I'll have to post that setup sometime. Nothing professional but it only cost me about $15 for parts and has worked well thus far (fingers crossed).
Fantastic job on your bike! Love the look!
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No time to post more pics for now. Still riding but here’s one of amazing Amicalola Falls. Will post more in the coming days. Roamer doing a fantastic job.
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ENJOY and Ride Safe....
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ENJOY and Ride Safe....
Enjoy!!!
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Beautiful photo, I rode up there a few weeks ago. Gotta love north Georgia!!
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Hey guys, just got back yesterday from my trip to the Chattahoochee National Forest. Trip encompassed a little over 1k miles and in addition to riding the Forest took in GA towns of Blairsville, Blue Ridge, Dillard, Ellijay, Helen, and Clayton but also covered NC towns like Franklin and the Highlands, latter of which is simply adorable and should not be missed if anyone is riding to the area.
The ride. Having ridden extensively in the Nantahala Forest area that, of course, includes the Dragon, Cherohala Skyway, and many other wonderful roads, I was anxious to take in the north GA roads and Chattahoochee Forest which is just a few short miles south of there and across the NC/GA border. These are roads I�ve heard a lot of dedicated riders praise over the years and I�d never driven them before. They surely delivered and are, in some ways, perfect compliments to their Nantahala neighbors. Not as technical (read switch backs, fast elevation changes, etc.) as some of the Nantahala roads and lack the lakes upon lakes upon vista upon vista upon vista that Nantahala offers, the Chattahoochee roads more than make up for it in having what seems like more sheer miles and miles of wonderful, curvy, scenic, country roads the kind of which most of the folks I know would more greatly enjoy riding. But not a contest, like I said, these two compliment each other equally and the perfect trip would be something like an entire week there split in both areas.
Roamer. I�m very happy to report the bike did a wonderful job and better than I expected even on some of the more twisty stuff. My riding was within what I�d consider is expected of the bike and maybe even a little harder here and there. While I only scraped the pegs 3 or 4 times tops, I was still having some spirited and very enjoyable rides. Mainly, what I was doing is riding the bike in a way that I feel it excels at, just trolling some amazing curvy countryside with that fantastic engine purring beneath you. I used by big screen on the highway then switched to my smaller one once there. Though not thrilling for any bike, the highway miles ridden there and back the Roamer proved more than adequate, cruising effortlessly and calmly at 80 and 85 (about 75 and 80 according to GPS) for hours on end. Moving the pegs rearward (but not down) from the forward controls helped my back a lot but my back still griped due mainly to it being damaged. An aftermarket seat that gives me an additional couple inches would go a long way in amending this, softening the bumps a little and giving me a bit more needed legroom.
Pasting my Fuelly data here to show the bike�s efficiency and range on the trip. It has a super early low light which will always come on for me in the 118-130 miles range; however, if you note the stats here, you�ll see that even after it comes on you usually have at least another gallon or more even of fuel left in the tank and I would estimate another 40 plus miles or so of riding on top of where I filled each tank up. Some rides I didn�t fill up until the 140ish range and even then a lot of gas apparently left in the tank according to the read at the pump.
Anyhow, a wondeful trip. Here are a few pictures and a link to the entire album if you choose to check it out. Below that is the Fuelly stats - ignore the percentage aspect in the table.
Album Link - https://www.flickr.com/gp/flickr_bri/48g8jE
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# Date Miles Gallons MPG price
28 10/14/17 147.00 3.210 45.79 2.620 50%
27 10/14/17 145.70 2.900 50.24 2.500 50%
26 10/14/17 138.60 2.780 49.86 2.760 50%
25 10/13/17 148.60 2.860 51.96 3.050 50%
24 10/13/17 128.90 2.540 50.75 2.790 50%
23 10/12/17 136.00 2.760 49.28 2.760 50%
22 10/11/17 112.50 2.610 43.10 2.990 50%
21 10/11/17 119.30 2.510 47.53 2.790 50%
20 10/10/17 131.70 2.760 47.72 3.070 50%
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Nice ride, and beautiful pictures bp, thanks! Send that seat to Ned?
Sarah
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Great ride, phots and descriptions. That�s why we do it!
And your take on the V9 is the same as mine. Useable power and predictable handling makes for a bike that�s fun to explore on at speeds just below reckless. I�d go into more detail, but it would just be repeating what you said. Besides, the sun is shining and there�s gas in my Roamer�s tank.
Thanks for a lively thread!
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Great ride, phots and descriptions. That�s why we do it!
And your take on the V9 is the same as mine. Useable power and predictable handling makes for a bike that�s fun to explore on at speeds just below reckless. I�d go into more detail, but it would just be repeating what you said. Besides, the sun is shining and there�s gas in my Roamer�s tank.
Thanks for a lively thread!
Fantastic report, I loved my V9 on the 2 trips I took. Got hit by a hit an runner driver Friday night and totaled it. Will be watching your thread and enjoying your reports.
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Fantastic report, I loved my V9 on the 2 trips I took. Got hit by a hit an runner driver Friday night and totaled it. Will be watching your thread and enjoying your reports.
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Ouch! Sincere condolences. Glad you’re OK to tell about it, and hope karma catches the runner soon!
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Well. Anyone who is familiar with my garage knows most motorcycles don’t stay there long no matter how wonderful, even if they aren’t causing me any discomfort :grin:. After a decent bit of fiddling and invested dollars (2 different sets of foot controls and pegs) my damaged lower discs still find the Roamer to be a challenge over some miles. It is a stunningly gorgeous bike and the V9 engine will go down as my absolute favorite Guzzi engine among all the ones I’ve owned (V7, 1100, 1200, and 1200 8V). My back and other issues given, however, I have decided to let the bike go to someone who will ride it more than I’m riding it lately. I’m posting it on fleabay tonight with a starting price of $6500 which is quite a significant bit less than what I have invested in it. We’ll see where it goes from there.
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Well. Anyone who is familiar with my garage knows most motorcycles don’t stay there long no matter how wonderful, even if they aren’t causing me any discomfort :grin:. After a decent bit of fiddling and invested dollars (2 different sets of foot controls and pegs) my damaged lower discs still find the Roamer to be a challenge over some miles. It is a stunningly gorgeous bike and the V9 engine will go down as my absolute favorite Guzzi engine among all the ones I’ve owned (V7, 1100, 1200, and 1200 8V). My back and other issues given, however, I have decided to let the bike go to someone who will ride it more than I’m riding it lately. I’m posting it on fleabay tonight with a starting price of $6500 which is quite a significant bit less than what I have invested in it. We’ll see where it goes from there.
Sorry to hear you are letting your V9 go, I miss mine but your right about the rear suspension. Mine would jolt me good. Got to be where I would anticipate sharp edge imperfections.....
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Well. Anyone who is familiar with my garage knows most motorcycles don�t stay there long no matter how wonderful, even if they aren�t causing me any discomfort :grin:. After a decent bit of fiddling and invested dollars (2 different sets of foot controls and pegs) my damaged lower discs still find the Roamer to be a challenge over some miles. It is a stunningly gorgeous bike and the V9 engine will go down as my absolute favorite Guzzi engine among all the ones I�ve owned (V7, 1100, 1200, and 1200 8V). My back and other issues given, however, I have decided to let the bike go to someone who will ride it more than I�m riding it lately. I�m posting it on fleabay tonight with a starting price of $6500 which is quite a significant bit less than what I have invested in it. We�ll see where it goes from there.
Before you give up you may want to try something different with the bars:
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I put these Rizoma bars and risers on my V9. This change, along with the OEM kit to reposition the foot pegs completely changed the riding position. Closer to that of my old Griso. Forward lean with just a bit of weight on your wrists.
You can accomplish the same thing with LSL bars if you don’t want the expense of the tapered bars.