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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: bad Chad on June 24, 2017, 06:03:58 PM
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Did I ask this question a couple years ago? If so, for give me, I don't recall the answer. :boozing:
I'm speaking of the leather/ish looking whip like thing often found hanging off the throttle on many big bore cruisers here in the good old heartland. My guess is that they are purely ornamental, meant to scare soccer moms and the like, but could their be an actual practical use that I'm just not considering?? Or is it just part of the "gay pirate" costume?
And that's ok. There are a ton of men and women who seem to rejoice in the pirate costume, I figure it gives them a bit of a get away on weekends. But like hating the other sports teams, beating up on Harley Davidson, making fun of riders who seem like posers, it's an easy target to go after the Pirates on two wheels! So that all said, what is the "whip" about?
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Purely decorative leather ....... like so much else in HD "culture"
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They are Get back whips .
Dusty
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QLzthSkfM
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Here ya go...https://www.chilhowee.net/whips.html (https://www.chilhowee.net/whips.html)
Some oldtimers used much shorter ones made to a certain spec hanging off their clutch lever as crude speedometers. :bike-037:
Paul B :boozing:
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:whip2: :whip2:
Poser stuff.. :rolleyes:
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Goes with the boots.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic007/Feathered-Motorcycle-Boot_zpsibgtekqp.jpg)
:boozing:
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Rocker and I went riding together a couple of weeks back . We were stopped along the Illinois River getting some pics , when a Sportster went by . Mike asked if I saw the little base ball bat strapped to the handlebars , which apparently are taking the place of the get back whip . Strange world .
Dusty
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Rocker and I went riding together a couple of weeks back . We were stopped along the Illinois River getting some pics , when a Sportster went by . Mike asked if I saw the little base ball bat strapped to the handlebars , which apparently are taking the place of the get back whip . Strange world .
Dusty
Scary message there I'm afraid ...... what next; ax handles?
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Scary message there I'm afraid ...... what next; ax handles?
Attack trained pit bulldogs :shocked:
Dusty
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I am so glad I will never ride a Harley.
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Gotta keep them wild wommans in line!
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Gets them used to the pain that they'll eventually have to learn to suffer...
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Scary message there I'm afraid ...... what next; ax handles?
Ball Peen Hammers... No, seriously...
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Possessing one of those in California gets you a felony conviction. Most likely other states as well.
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Real men carry fly swatters.....
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The leather cord on the levers does have a use if you ride a Convert, especially if it has a hack
Hunter
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Possessing one of those in California gets you a felony conviction. Most likely other states as well.
One of what ???
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Well I'm in a mood tonight, so I'll try to answer this in a good way.
Leather tassels have been around for years on leather items. I remember horse saddles with the tassels and the silver decorations. Some of the tassels may have been long enough to be useful, probably most for decoration.
In the spirit of motorcycles and horses, tassels would fit in as a link between the two. A rider going down the trail or road, so much the same.
I'm not defending the poser, but don't knock an old style rider with some tassels on his/her bike. At least HD and Indian in the old days had their dressed stye bikes with tassels on the seat at least if I remember right.
Just my 2 cents. YMMV.
Tom
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Tassels are one thing. "Get back" whips are entirely something different.
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My kid brother had plastic tassels on the handlebars of his banana-seat pedal bike back around 1955.
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reminds me of that silly poem
sticks and stones may break my bones......
but whips and chains excite me :laugh:
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Fringed clothes/tack was a Native American invention. it was so a person would have a length of soft leather to use as an improvised fastener close at hand. Alternately, the "Get-Back Whip" is one of those accessories born of "One-Percenter Envy." It is a thing that few would dare to use, but with it they hope to borrow the badass reputation of patch-wearers. Sorta sad, really...
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One of what ???
A get back whip. See here... http://bikerlawblog.com/2009/05/26/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/ (http://bikerlawblog.com/2009/05/26/the-getback-whip-issue-revisited/)
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It was my understanding that fringed leather on shirts was to wick water away and assist in drying.
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About 25?years ago, someone gave me a pair of fringed chaps. OK, so I went on a 500 mile road trip and about 30 miles into the ride, the whipping of that fringe was driving me crazy, so at the next gas stop I bought a utility knife and cut those stupid things off. I guess at slow speeds one could get use to the whipping of fringe, but at 75-80 mph it really gets annoying.
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Chad needs a set of whips on the V65, red & black, then that bike will sell.
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I'm with Tom above and set it aside as originally being ornamental as in saddlery like how often these whippy things are accompanied by stitched-on grip covers and leather fuel tank accents.
It's just the over-all, deliberately arrived at, perception of badd-assery put out by so many HD owners that we are led to by the nose to view most of their (HD owners) affectations with contempt and mockery.
Todd.
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The secret is that the get back whip identifies the person as the bottom of an S&M duo.
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Baaaa-baaaa.
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The secret is that the get back whip identifies the person as the bottom of an S&M duo.
What the hell... How do you know that anyhow?
Musta seen it in a movie once, eh? Or, is there a much more colorful aspect to you we're not knowing about? :evil:
(http://www.cappingthegame.com/forum/images/smilies/whipping-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Todd.
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What the hell... How do you know that anyhow?
Musta seen it in a movie once, eh? Or, is there a much more colorful aspect to you we're not knowing about? :evil:
(http://www.cappingthegame.com/forum/images/smilies/whipping-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Todd.
Jim was a Coastie. 'Nuff said.
He's been around so long that when he was a mere striker, they still had flogging as punishment.
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Jim was a Coastie. 'Nuff said.
He's been around so long that when he was a mere striker, they still had flogging as punishment.
Sure, it's punishment unless a fella gets to liking it!
A sea-faring life, exotic locale retirement, grass skirted gals... There's no telling where a fella ends up from there but it's a sure bet that it'll be interesting.
Todd.
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Yesterday I attended a rodeo parade in a nearby town.
A "biker" couple settled into a spot not far from me, on the sidewalk.
The gal had her keys clipped to a belt loop.
On her key chain was a FULL SIZE retractable box cutter...
WTF !?!?!? LOL !!!
(http://www.brokenoff.com/boxcuttere.jpg)
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Yesterday I attended a rodeo parade in a nearby town.
A "biker" couple settled into a spot not far from me, on the sidewalk.
The gal had her keys clipped to a belt loop.
On her key chain was a FULL SIZE retractable box cutter...
WTF !?!?!? LOL !!!
(http://www.brokenoff.com/boxcuttere.jpg)
Amateur "poser" unless she had a dime between two blades! :evil:
Todd.
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Sure, it's punishment unless a fella gets to liking it!
A sea-faring life, exotic locale retirement, grass skirted gals... There's no telling where a fella ends up from there but it's a sure bet that it'll be interesting.
Todd.
Sea story time:
Back (way back) in the days when I was a junior engineering officer on merchant ships, we pulled into Brooklyn on an American Export Lines ship. This was back in the days when every ship had a contingent of "characters." Read into that what you will.
One of the guys thought it might be interesting to find an S&M club in New York, so off he went for the evening.
Next morning: Did you find what you were looking for?
Yep.
How was it?
I dunno. But it wasn't bad!
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Jim was a Coastie. 'Nuff said.
He's been around so long that when he was a mere striker, they still had flogging as punishment.
Probably saw this during the late show at Diamond Lil's.
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The secret is that the get back whip identifies the person as the bottom of an S&M duo.
not to put too fine a point on it but the term is actually S-M (sado-masochism) and not S&M (sado and masochism.) make that mistake again and you will have to be punished.
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Hey Black cat, Is that to say that you have been to Diamond Lil's ?
I didn't know that anyone on this site had been there. Diamond Lil's was one of the high lights of a lower Manhattan
romp. All coasties that have taken that romp know that.
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Hey Black cat, Is that to say that you have been to Diamond Lil's ?
I didn't know that anyone on this site had been there. Diamond Lil's was one of the high lights of a lower Manhattan
romp. All coasties that have taken that romp know that.
Yeah, that was one crazy place. Long gone now, as are most of those places in the city. There really needs to be a plaque on the outside of the McDonald's that currently resides in that location. Though it might effect some appetites if they really knew what use to happen in that place.
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This "whip" fascinates me, never ever seen one (although I'm sure it would be extremely frowned on by the law in the Chicago area). Had to google it. Is this a west coast thing?
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I'm with Tom above and set it aside as originally being ornamental as in saddlery like how often these whippy things are accompanied by stitched-on grip covers and leather fuel tank accents.
It's just the over-all, deliberately arrived at, perception of badd-assery put out by so many HD owners that we are led to by the nose to view most of their (HD owners) affectations with contempt and mockery.
Todd.
Every get-back whip I've seen has been accompanied by a trying-to-look-tough badass with a "what do YOU want damn you?" look on his face. Why would any normally adjusted human being display such a thing? They're no good for self-defense ... it's just a "Look Out, I'm Bad, I might hurt you, be scared of me" thing ....
I see 'em all over the east coast ...
Lannis
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Every get-back whip I've seen has been accompanied by a trying-to-look-tough badass with a "what do YOU want damn you?" look on his face. Why would any normally adjusted human being display such a thing? They're no good for self-defense ... it's just a "Look Out, I'm Bad, I might hurt you, be scared of me" thing ....
I see 'em all over the east coast ...
Lannis
Having seen plenty on the bikes of portly accountants, pasty skinned lawyers and other HD riders, I'd say your mileage may vary.
Todd.
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Nope - don't get it
Maybe they are influenced by Basil as a means of fixing recalcitrant motorcycles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl3mfaWCnWw
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Seen out here too with the "bad boys" crowd. Scruffy looking. Tat's, big baseball cap cover the ears, shorts, sneakers, vest w/tee. :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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i lived in venice beach, ca a long time ago. there is/was a harley dealership in marina del rey (neighboring town.) one sunday morning i was bicycling by the harley place and i saw that there were dozens of bikes assembled and folks were getting ready for a ride. at least half of the crowd was your generic scruffy harley rider crew and the other half was a mixture. i stopped to chat up some of them and found that the folks that stood out were the 2 couples (they didn't know each other) who were on fully dressed bikes with fringe on their jackets and on the bikes. there were fringes on the bags and handlebars and one of the couples had matching fringed jackets. he was an orthodontist. the other couple's distaff side sported a bright pink, fringed, leather jacket, his was fringed and black. i spent a couple of years making fun of them in conversation. it took me a while to realize that they had as good a time on that ride as any of the others less gaudily attired. as i get older i get less judgmental, although the old temptations are still there. i think it was that sage philosopher ru paul who said: "we are all born naked and everything after that is drag."
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i lived in venice beach, ca a long time ago. there is/was a harley dealership in marina del rey (neighboring town.) one sunday morning i was bicycling by the harley place and i saw that there were dozens of bikes assembled and folks were getting ready for a ride. at least half of the crowd was your generic scruffy harley rider crew and the other half was a mixture. i stopped to chat up some of them and found that the folks that stood out were the 2 couples (they didn't know each other) who were on fully dressed bikes with fringe on their jackets and on the bikes. there were fringes on the bags and handlebars and one of the couples had matching fringed jackets. he was an orthodontist. the other couple's distaff side sported a bright pink, fringed, leather jacket, his was fringed and black. i spent a couple of years making fun of them in conversation. it took me a while to realize that they had as good a time on that ride as any of the others less gaudily attired. as i get older i get less judgmental, although the old temptations are still there. i think it was that sage philosopher ru paul who said: "we are all born naked and everything after that is drag."
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I'm going to go out and look for 2 dead black snakes that were hit by cars to hang from my DR650 handle bars. That'll be super bada$$.
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Motorcycle whips, s&m and sagely wisdom from Rupaul - whoever says steel cut oats and Guzzis are dull is a fool! :boozing:
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Having seen plenty on the bikes of portly accountants, pasty skinned lawyers and other HD riders, I'd say your mileage may vary.
Todd.
No, I think we're seeing the same thing ... The Portly Accountants and Pasty-Skinned Lawyers ARE the "trying to look tough" badasses, and the whip is part of the shtick ....
Lannis
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I guess I'm one of those types who needs a direct answer:
Is this supposed to be a weapon?
WTF does "get back mean"?
Does this mean it's some sort of way to whip (get back) at passing motorists?
...it just seems like a really stupid attempt at a weapon.
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Why hang dead snakes from your handlebars? Hang live ones, that will get people back.
Especially if the are rattlers.
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This "whip" fascinates me, never ever seen one (although I'm sure it would be extremely frowned on by the law in the Chicago area). Had to google it. Is this a west coast thing?
Really? I live in the Chicago area as well, and while they certainly aren't ubiquitous with every HD, I have seen many here.
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I guess I'm one of those types who needs a direct answer:
Is this supposed to be a weapon?
WTF does "get back mean"?
Does this mean it's some sort of way to whip (get back) at passing motorists?
...it just seems like a really stupid attempt at a weapon.
Looks like a very ineffective weapon. I think it's mostly symbolic, and to mean
"I'm a BAAAD Sons of Anarchy Hell's Angel Satan's Slave muvvaf***a; don't you watch TV and know how BAAAD I am? Don't f*** with me, stay out of my way, I'm in control, I'll hurt anyone that doesn't get out of my way and that means you ..."
Very small self-esteem, very high ego, very good imagination. There really are people that have to feel like that in order to live with themselves. It's just a shame that so many of them use motorcycles, and one brand of motorcycle in particular that cultivates that image, to strut their imagination around such that other people tar you and me with the same brush ....
Speaking of which, I got a letter back from Mark Tuttle at "RIDER" magazine when I questioned him as to why they were testing "Menacing-looking" motorcycles ... he talked about the "motorcycles" looking menacing and not the riders; I was at least happy that he responded .... reckon I'll stay a subscriber ...
Lannis
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My kid brother had plastic tassels on the handlebars of his banana-seat pedal bike back around 1955.
LOL! This is what I was thinking! And how about the big silver metal flake in the seat vinyl? :boozing:
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Yeah, a neighbor of mine has one on his road king, flh, fat dog or whatever the hell it's called. When he's completed his honey do list, on Sunday afternoons, he and his posse, go play son's of anarchy and terrorize the soccer moms at the local starbucks.
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Back in the day (mid 70') I asked a old time biker about the tassels and he told me that the speedometer crapped out on his bike and he used it to judge his speed, if they were straight back he new he was booking :copcar: I dunno, shrug.
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Back in the day (mid 70') I asked a old time biker about the tassels and he told me that the speedometer crapped out on his bike and he used it to judge his speed, if they were straight back he new he was booking :copcar: I dunno, shrug.
Yep, going 30 MPH into a 30 MPH wind, he was FLYING down the four-lane highway all right all right .... !
Lannis
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Tassels are not get back whips.
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Back in the day (mid 70') I asked a old time biker about the tassels and he told me that the speedometer crapped out on his bike and he used it to judge his speed, if they were straight back he new he was booking :copcar: I dunno, shrug.
4 Speed trans., solid engine mount to the frame. 80" Shovel engine. You don't need tassles to tell the speed. Get it up to 60 mph. You can barely see because the whole bike is shaking and raising the r's don't help. :grin: I still have that bike.
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A genuine "get back whip" will have an about 1/2" dia bearing ball woven into the end of the whip. There is a connector that facilitates quick access to the goofball behind the bars and is used to wap folks' windshields that they deem have been to close or looked at them wrongly. It's a 1%er thing; prospects in some bottom rocker clubs are required to sport them (use them?) on their sportsters (yep some outlaw clubs require riding a sportster by prospects). You have to consider the personalities that are attracted to outlaw clubs.
There you have it. Is it now seeping into the weekend warrior culture? Outlaws will do anything, but if there are no colors, I think there would be a chance of being confronted by some wearing them (colors).
What do you call a herd of black sheep?. Sheep!
I do like H-Ds though.
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Here in Ca we can split traffic, every time i see someone with these stupid whip things splitting on their bike i wonder how long before it catches a mirror and ruins there day.
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A few years back I was selling my VRod and a guy rode up to see it on an old Sportster with a huge .44 Magnum strapped to his hip and a one-legged girlfriend on the back. These were not posers, they looked like they had permanent hangovers and were dressed like they couldn't care even a smidgen less about how they looked or smelled. He had a "whip" dangling from his handle bars and when I asked him what it was for he explained "it's for cracking the windshields of bad drivers". They turned out to be pretty cool people.
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When you have a .44 mag on your hip who needs a whip?
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When you have a .44 mag on your hip who needs a whip?
If you smell horrible and have a one-legged girlfriend on the back of your Sportster, who needs a whip OR a .44? :bow:
Not making fun of amputees, mind you, and good on 'er for getting out on the bike, but if I'm ever sporting a prosthetic limb, it's going to be under my leathers like the rest of me .... !
Lannis
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Sorry, you're all wrong. It dates back to the cowboy days. when they had no toilet (or outhouse) paper and had to make an emergency stop, a couple of quick swipes with the whip and you're good to go. explains the smell too.
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They use the whips because there is no place for the trunk monkey. :evil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8iAVwt_Yc&index=2&list=RDAdeIpLTjD3M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8iAVwt_Yc&index=2&list=RDAdeIpLTjD3M)