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Title: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: passator cortese on July 16, 2017, 04:54:38 PM
Hi guys, looking to buy a pre owned V9 soon (will be my 5th Guzzi of my life). I live in California and I can't understand if all the V9's are 50 state emission compliant.
I Tried to contact the Guzzi customer service, no answer by phone, neither by email.
Can someone check on his 2016 or 2017 V9 if the sticker says 49 or 50 state compliant?
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: Arizona Wayne on July 16, 2017, 05:41:04 PM
If a Calif. Guzzi dealer has them, they're 50 state compliant, and I believe they are.
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: bad Chad on July 17, 2017, 08:57:37 AM
All Guzzi have been 50 state compliant since at least 1998.
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: rocker59 on July 17, 2017, 10:08:01 AM
Hi guys, looking to buy a pre owned V9 soon (will be my 5th Guzzi of my life). I live in California and I can't understand if all the V9's are 50 state emission compliant.
I Tried to contact the Guzzi customer service, no answer by phone, neither by email.
Can someone check on his 2016 or 2017 V9 if the sticker says 49 or 50 state compliant?

All Guzzis in The USA since model year 1998 have been 50-State compliant.

Now, if you're looking at used in another State and want to bring it back to California, you need to be sure the compliance stickers and the carbon canister are still in place.  Those are not required in most other locales, and many owners remove them.
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 17, 2017, 10:33:49 AM
Hi guys, looking to buy a pre owned V9 soon (will be my 5th Guzzi of my life). I live in California and I can't understand if all the V9's are 50 state emission compliant.
I Tried to contact the Guzzi customer service, no answer by phone, neither by email.
Can someone check on his 2016 or 2017 V9 if the sticker says 49 or 50 state compliant?

Welcome to WG...and... the wonderful world of Guzzi customer service.  :smiley:
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: 5154guzzi on July 17, 2017, 05:49:05 PM
There was a `problem`  with the 50 state V9`s with CARB  ( California Air Resource Board ) .  It was finally solved , but kept the V9 out of Cali Dealerships for quite a while longer than the other 49 states. 
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: ITSec on July 17, 2017, 06:00:58 PM
There was a `problem`  with the 50 state V9`s with CARB  ( California Air Resource Board ) .  It was finally solved , but kept the V9 out of Cali Dealerships for quite a while longer than the other 49 states.

Piaggio USA has been slow to deal with CARB testing and certification, and hasn't allowed enough time to get things done. The same thing happened with the introduction of the California 1400 back in 2013-2014. We had them in Nevada (with 50-state sticker sets, no less) before the dealers in Los Angeles did. Piaggio had the test results, knew the bikes were legal - but didn't have the letter from CARB that would let them put crates on a truck westbound.
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: Arizona Wayne on July 18, 2017, 02:02:14 AM
There used to be a belief if you bought a used MC out of state and went to title it in Kalif., where it had to have X so many miles on it before Kalif. would accept it.  Far as I know this situation only  mattered for non-motorcyles.  It was a way for the state to stop Ca. car buyers from buying new cars across the border and drive them to Calif.
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: rocker59 on July 18, 2017, 07:38:45 AM
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_content_en/dmv/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr29

- If you are a California resident and acquire a new car, truck, or motorcycle from another state, it must be certified to meet California smog laws to be registered in California.

- California considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase or trade by a California resident or business, to be a new vehicle. This is true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state.

- To find out whether a car, truck, or motorcycle is California certified, check the emission label under the hood. For a motorcycle, check the frame or refer to your owner' s manual for the location. The label should read that the vehicle conforms to California regulations, or that it is legal for sale in California.

Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: Arizona Wayne on July 18, 2017, 03:21:34 PM
Far as I know Calif. doesn't have any MC smog laws, at least not any semi annual MC smog tests like cars, trucks have to go thru.
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: vstevens on July 19, 2017, 12:49:12 PM
WS just at the San Diego MG dealer yesterday looking at a V9 bobber.  They have at least one of everything.
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: Tom H on July 19, 2017, 01:54:17 PM
Far as I know Calif. doesn't have any MC smog laws, at least not any semi annual MC smog tests like cars, trucks have to go thru.

No testing required so far like cars do. I do believe that if a motorcycle comes stock with emissions equipment installed, you are not supposed to remove it. With that said, it's highly unlikely that anyone would find out that you removed it.

Tom
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: passator cortese on July 24, 2017, 04:26:35 PM
My question was because I didn't saw for sale any V9 in CA for almost all the 2016, so I thought there was a possible problem with the early V9s and the California emission.

Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: passator cortese on July 24, 2017, 04:28:43 PM


- California considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase or trade by a California resident or business, to be a new vehicle. This is true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state.


And what does it actually mean for a private party who want to bring a "less than 7500 miles" motorcycle from out of state to California?
Title: Re: V9 50 state emission compliant?
Post by: ITSec on July 24, 2017, 06:04:46 PM
And what does it actually mean for a private party who want to bring a "less than 7500 miles" motorcycle from out of state to California?

That it better have a sticker saying it's CA or 50-state compliant. Simple as that...