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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: MacGlennon on July 22, 2017, 06:35:42 AM
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Wow- there is seriously almost no room to get something on / around that switch. Folks are saying it's a 21 mm size although I've only got wrenches in standard sizes that big and can't get a socket over it. What have people done to remove that thing- cut down a socket and remove the shoulders?
2008 1200 Sport.
Thanks- Jim
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I used a thin 'spark plug socket' that worked well on my California II.
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Hi Jim, I think I used like a 7/8 or close because I did not have a 21mm, then I asked Jim at Rose Farm Guzzi how the hell they do this and he told me to take the left header pipe off (kickstand side) and cut about a third out of a 21mm box wrench out and take your time, it will come out. I took my tank and air box out and header pipe off and spent a lot of beers and choice words till I got her done, I had to have the wife hook up the sender wire because she has smaller hands, if they sent you the updated sender with the adapter it won't work on a 2v 1200, there is posts on this subject here, folks have found em at auto parts stores that will work. Take your time and good luck, its not that bad :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:
Bruce
Oh by the way I replaced my fuel filter while I had the tank off.
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It helps if you pull the airbox, lots of room then. You can also do it if you pull LH exhaust.
Just don't install the switch that has the extension on it, they recommend.
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Hmm-- I wasn't even aware that this was something you could accomplish from the exhaust side but now it makes sense. I have the tank off and air box removed already and after I mow the lawn I think I will go back in the garage and noodle around with it.
I'll update if I make any progress.
Thanks- Jim
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I used a 21 mm (I think) crows foot and 6 inch extension to "break tension" then spun the old sensor out with my finger tips (on on left hand and two on right). You get very little "throw" even with the crows foot. It wasn't fun but do-able.
Reverse the procedure for install.
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Being a "red suspenders" type of guy I had to do it twice, once because the sensor I purchased was the wrong thread so I cleaned up the old sensor & block to make sure it had a good ground and spun the old one back on. It worked for a while so I ended up purchasing another sensor with the right thread and making the change again. Same method each time.
That cured my problem.
Mark
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They make an actual oil pressure sender socket that is stepped for the shape and relieved for the connector.
Here's one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MATCO-SPS117-3-8-DRIVE-OIL-PRESSURE-SWITCH-SOCKET/292173345606?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Dcac2d16792cc49acac585ce283ad0bdf%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D352104933171
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Dunno about the others, but in my '07 Norge whip the air box off and loosen the alternator and there is no drama at all
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Dunno about the others, but in my '07 Norge whip the air box off and loosen the alternator and there is no drama at all
Most of us never loosen the alternator till the belt needs replacing.That's too much like real work!
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Most of us never loosen the alternator till the belt needs replacing.That's too much like real work!
I didn't want to at the time either, then when I did, it took less time than to drink my tea ! Although it was a big cup...
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LH header removal has been my choice for years. Taking the airbox off is also reasonably easy, putting it back on is another story ......
After the LH header is removed, also remove the crankshaft sensor, being careful not to lose any shims. Then a 21mm flat ring spanner can access the switch, no need to cut a chunk out of it.
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I played with it yesterday and finally got it. Autozone had a 21mm box end wrench and (for me) that was what made the difference- the 7/8s just had too much slack in it where it grabbed the nit and took up what little throw was available.
In my case, I had to both remove the exhaust and the air box. Loosen so slightly from the inside and then come outside a little more. Back and forth. What a pain but I don't mind so much as long as I'm making progress. As said above the crank sensor really has to come out to give you a good angle at the nut. I'll do the inner spark plugs as long as I'm in there.
Also, was there something about plastic fuel filters that were the junk? Is my bike possibly one of the affected ones (2008 1200 sport) and how would I check that? Or, as long as I've got the tank off should I just do that anyhow?
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Good job Jim, I replaced the fuel filter while I had the tank off because for me it is such a pain to get the fuel line off in the first place to remove the tank, so after hearing about the half plastic half metal stock filter I read up on here I figured what the hell, then went to napa and got a all metal one, real easy to replace and I'm not a wrench by any means :boozing: By the way I don't think my filter would of failed, but for piece of mind and a few bucks it was worth it. Ride Safe.
Bruce
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They make an actual oil pressure sender socket that is stepped for the shape and relieved for the connector.
Here's one
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Thanks ... I think. :rolleyes:
Just bought that. Lord knows why.
Hope I never have to use it, as I am embarrassed to say how many "magic wrenches" I have bought for that task. The only time I have been successful is when I sucked it up and pulled the airbox. What a PITA.
OTOH, haven't seen that red light except in the start-up sweep since I R&R'ed the sensor and used ITSec's connector. :bow:
Bill
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The correct technique and metric tool helps. :wink: (Just reminding myself. :grin:)
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Thanks the support all. Bill reminded me that I should give a shout out to ITSec, who after I contacted him was kind enough to send me a connector. Should be here next week. This he does simply for a monetary donation of your choosing to this forum. Pretty nice.
Jim
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Thanks the support all. Bill reminded me that I should give a shout out to ITSec, who after I contacted him was kind enough to send me a connector. Should be here next week. This he does simply for a monetary donation of your choosing to this forum. Pretty nice.
Jim
Thank you sir. If you don't see it in the next day or two let me know.