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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Guzzi Gal on August 22, 2017, 08:22:38 AM
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Well, I've made the decision to purchase the V7 III "Anni", and I would like an opinion from the more seasoned bike owners. As a rider with very little saddle time, I don't know what farkle, or adjustment might make the experience of riding my first bike better. What do you wish someone had shared with you, when you got your first bike?
I know I want the H&B center stand, but are there any other items you would consider "don't ride without" (other than ATGATT)? I'm considering stuff like leavers for small hands, and an unobtrusive windscreen (Dart Marlin?). Please include the brand/model you've had the most pleasure using, and also things that can be done on the cheap, like adjustments, or hacks.
Thank you, once again, for all your help!
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an inexpensive throttle lock to give your go hand relief.
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The "What do you wish YOU had done?" question is a good one, but as I think about it, my advice would be to ride it for a bit and see what you think.
Customizing it to YOU with levers that fit your hands, with pegs that are in exactly the right place for you, with a seat that fits you just the way you want, and a windshield (or not) that manages the air to make it more comfortable for you are the most important things.
I've learned over the years NOT to just "accept", even on the nicest motorcycle, the ergonomics that were developed by a test rider that is not me nor anything like me, and so I ride it a few hundred then a few thousand miles to see what the sore places are, and I do what's necessary with grips, levers, footpegs, handlebars, and seats to make it fit.
You'll figure out about storage (panniers? tank bag? tail bag? top box?) after you see how you'll be using the bike.
But ride it a bit and get the ergos sorted first!
Good decision on the bike, I think!
Lannis
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I vote for a windshield. Ride it for a while without one to see what that's all about (if you don't already know), then add the windshield, and extend the riding radius x (2) or (3) or more.
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I'm quite pleased with my Dart Marlin screen
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Thank you for the insight. :bow: :kiss:
The throttle lock would be perfect for long rides, something I hadn't thought to do yet, but will start researching how to size/use. I'd considered a low gel seat, or lower suspension, and screen, and figured those were a "ride n see" kinda thing, but wanted a more knowledgable view.
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Luggage! Hepco Becker racks and hard cases. How else will you go camping with it?!
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Congratulations! You will figure this out all too soon. Within the first 500 miles you will know if the seat works, if you really need levers, and if you enjoy wind in your face. It's tempting to immediately modify the bike but, as Lannis said, "ride it a bit". One good test is to try riding the machine for 100 miles without getting off. My 2013 V7 failed that test! The new ones have been modified by the factory so please don't take my experience as a guide for your V7 III.
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Must have's on my V7:
- Hepco & Becker Luggage
Dart Marlin windscreen
Bikemaster Heated Grips ($59 at Revzilla)
Kaoko throttle locker/cruiser control -- WAY better and easier to use than that clamp-on contraption.
OP: you said that you have very little seat time -- maybe skip the throttle locker.
If you do use one, when adjusted correctly the Kaoko doesn't prevent you from rolling the throttle forward, and is very safe to use. It is really nice to have on long rides to give your right hand/wrist a break, esp. an the straight and level, when you might not have the occasional downhill to give your hand a break while costing.
Great choice on bike, the Anni is beautiful!
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small tubless tire repair kit
small air pump
hydration pack ("camelback")
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small tubless tire repair kit
small air pump
hydration pack ("camelback")
I live in the desert, Camelbacks are almost required equipment! However, you reminded of other questions I wanted to ask you Masters of Motto.
What should I include in my on-bike basic tool kit? (metric? crescent/socket wrench, pliers, phillips/flat head screwdriver, duct tape, knife, etc...)
Would you suggest a ready made tool kit, or buy a tool roll, and customize?
What kind/brand of tire repair kit, and pump has worked for you in the past?
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Count mine as another vote for don't add anything yet. Ride it in original condition first and become accustom to it. You're a low time rider, I would recommend staying away from the throttle lock. You need to log time with throttle control even on long rides, and flicking the friction lock on and off is an unnecessary distraction. So is listening to music on helmet bluetooth, trying to manage a bar mounted gps unit, etc. My opinion is that the best thing to do with the new V7 is just ride it stock form and build familiarity both with the bike and with riding in general.
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I live in the desert, Camelbacks are almost required equipment! However, you reminded of other questions I wanted to ask you Masters of Motto.
What should I include in my on-bike basic tool kit? (metric? crescent/socket wrench, pliers, phillips/flat head screwdriver, duct tape, knife, etc...)
Would you suggest a ready made tool kit, or buy a tool roll, and customize?
What kind/brand of tire repair kit, and pump has worked for you in the past?
Aerostich sells a bike pump for about $50 that is very compact and very capable. I forget what brand of sticky ropes I carried (tire plugs). My repair kit kept under the seat of my Ducati disappeared after the accident. Officer didn't see it, tow yard claimed not to have it, a friend searched the crash site and no luck. I had about a hundred bucks tied up in it. Aerostich pump, sticky ropes, one of those LED light headlamps (elastic band holds it on your forehead, that kind). I'd carefully selected each item for compactness to fit in the tight environs under the multistrada's pillion seat and now I've completely forgotten which brands and types I had except for the Aerostich air pump. I blame it on the concussion (yes, helmet worn and it saved my life).
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http://www.aerostich.com/tools/tire-repair/pumps-air-compressors/aerostich-mini-compressor.html
this is the air compressor I had. Comes in a zip pouch nice and compact. A word on tire repair. Try to get a worn out motorcycle tire or two from a shop and take home. Puncture it and practice using your repair kit to ream the puncture and put in a plug... practice a couple times. Sticky ropes work pretty good. Some people like the mushroom plug types and some don't. All I remember about the ropes I had was they were black instead of reddish brown and came with a special insertion tool that you twisted one turn or so after insertion and it formed a [sticky] knot that got adhered really well to the inside of the tire carcass. Dam I can't remember the brand but it wasn't one of the popular bike sticky rope brands, was kind of a small operation. Just remember to get one of those small compact LED headlamps in case you need both hands free to do a tire repair at night. Also need pliers or similar to pull out whatever piece of road sharf punctures your tire, they don't always come out easily.
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I installed a Hepco Becker centerstand on my Anniversario over the weekend. It was actually a bit more involved than I would have hoped. The end product is good. My suggestion is to grease the long bolt that goes through the frame/centerstand. Or run a round file through the centerstand. The springs are not easy to get hooked up, and it would be next to impossible without a cheap spring puller tool.
As a newer rider, I suggest (and am doing the same, even though I am not a new rider) putting the Agostini crash bars on for $200. Protect that engine from a drop.
I am enjoying the clean air without a screen.
I bought a Fuzeblock to put under a side panel so that I can wire up various addons, such as GPS, driving lights, heated gear, heated grips.
Good luck with the bike. Mine is about my favorite bike I have owned to date.
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riding lessons...
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Bonaventure,
I'm very glad you survived that crash, and are here to tell the tale, and share your wisdom. That pump is pretty nifty. I'll track down an old tire, and start playing!
Socalrob,
The dealer will install the stand before I take possession. :evil: The Fuzeblock sounds like a good idea, especially if I get Bonaventure's suggested pump.
Chuck,
Been there, done that. Once I have the bike, I will return to my BRC location for their monthly skill night sessions. Thanks for looking out for my safety!
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Congrats on new bike.
:1: on what Lannis said.
Tool kit?.....Check what you need to tighten/adjust levers, pegs, mirrors, remove wheel and change/repair tire and that's what you carry. Elect. tape, zip ties, elect. wire, spare bulbs & fuses and if room, duct tape.
Phoenix was a heckuva place 50 years ago, but I don't recognize it now.
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Bonaventure, although an air pump might be handy the Anniversario has tube type tires so fixing a flat is more complex than sticky rope and the pump.
Guzzi Gal, Unless Guzzi has made a change you will find that the tool kit under the seat is pretty poor. In particular, it is lacking the metric allen key needed to remove the gas tank. When you get the bike home just go around the machine and see what it takes to do stuff like adjust the mirrors (19mm?), tighten the brake and shift levers, remove the side covers, or secure the license plate fasteners. Those little niggling adjustments are things that usually happen on the road when you are stuck with what's on the bike. This is not to say a whole took kit, just a few chosen tools in your magnetic tank bag.
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For the Guzzi, spare caps and plugs. Can get you moving after a simple tip over that can break them..yeah, that feels good.
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Does those tire repair kit works on our spoke wheel with tube tires?
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Does those tire repair kit works on our spoke wheel with tube tires?
No. Didn't know the V7 had inner tubes.
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No. Didn't know the V7 had inner tubes.
If it has spoke wheels, it has tubes on the V7.
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No. Didn't know the V7 had inner tubes.
Install Slime in the tires, especially the rear tire.
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Install Slime in the tires, especially the rear tire.
This. I have a friend that slimes his tires and has never had a flat, even though there were nails in them. Your tire change guy will not like you, but it's a really good idea for spoked rims.
Slime also makes a kit with a small compressor, patches, etc. Occasionally the typical AutoZone, etc. will have it on sale for around 20 bux. HF sells a small compressor that works, too. Take the plastic stuff off of it and it's really small.
Let's face it. You are not going to do a major overhaul on the side of the road. The most likely breakdown is a flat tire.
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The most likely breakdown is a flat tire.
From your lips (keyboard), to God's ear!
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Welcome! Your excited, who wouldn't be, you are taking ownership of a kick ass motorcycle! But aside from the Slime idea, I would suggest you wait a bit, ride it a bit, and then start your trek.
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Wat Chad sez..
Actually, I'm excited for you. :smiley:
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So I went, and bought the bike. The only change made was the leavers, but I will retain the originals, just in case. Dave, with Moto International, wasn't happy with how the H&B center stand fits on the V7 III's, so I deferred to Mr. Guzziology's wisdom. Shoot, I should have asked him to include a signed copy of his book, even if it doesn't cover the III's.
Thanks for all your help!!!
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Congrats! And happy riding.
Does Moto Guzzi still give you the free 2-year tow #? If yes, make sure you keep that number in your phone or on the bike. Peace of mind if nothing else. Also some insurance companies provide the same service.
Slime is a great idea. Don't have it in my tires right now (also tubed) but I should. Changing bicycle tubes on-the-fly is enough of a pain; I think motorcycle tires would be a lot harder.
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Gasoline .
Dusty
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You will need a rear rack. I prefer the factory "long" rack over the H&B version - it's very substantial, and is flat rather the having the raised stop of the H&B one. Comes in chrome or black. A couple of the smaller Rok Straps & there's the wet gear, warm gear (it can get cold in deserts once the sun goes down) and some shopping - a day pack for the rest. The V 7 doesn't have the scooter's shopping convenience.
The rest can wait until you've ridden the beast a while. The second or third 100 miles for the seat, perhaps - your body will take a while to get used to the new riding position. And before splurging on a seat, try adjusting the handle bars & the foot controls. The rear sets have 3 locating holes, the toe pieces are on cams & the linkages can be adjusted. Move these & the handle bars/clip ons around & up & down until you find a comfortable position which is still comfortable after 100-200 miles. A tiny adjustment can have a significant effect.
Smaller adjustable levers are available - the chinese made ones on eBay are good (seem to fit better than OEM), prettier & cheap at $20-30. If you find the standard levers awkward, get them. Sooner or later the bike is likely to fall over, so it's a good idea to carry a spare set on long thrips. Smaller levers are less likely to break the ends off than the standard ones.
The throttle lock suggestion is a good one - works well on long straight roads (of which you have one or two) - I have found the cheapest one of those available (in the phot) works best for me.
One other thing - breakdown service - over here we can get a reasonably cheap service through the automobile associations which will truck the bike (to wherever) in the event of a breakdown. Check out what's available in your neck of woods. I've used it on occasion - it makes breaking down much less fraught.
After some 3 - 6 months riding, you will have a pretty good idea of what else you are prepared to spend your hard-earned on, and which has priority.
There's a lot of fun there, enjoy.
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Just ride it. Accessorize after you decide what you don't like, and add what YOU think will be useful for your intentions on the bike.
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Congrats, Guzzi Gal. You've made a wise decision to get it from Dave. Well.. other than not buying a bike you don't care about to drop. :evil: :smiley: Probably your scooter experience will stand you in good stead for that issue.
Remember that you are *invisible,* and have fun.
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Unless I missed it here are the missing answers:
1. CRASH BARS are the only thing you need to add right now and I suggest you do it before you drop it. Don't be Jay...(which means buy them, then wait 6 months, drop the bike, THEN add them). Buy them and install them before the first ride.
2. TOOL KIT? - who are we trying to impress. I can rebuild a motor or strip a bike, but I don't carry a tool kit unless I'm AT LEAST going on a multi-state/multi-day ride. And even then what have I used it for? I made an ignition switch once for a Jackal, but i still needed supplies from a local hardware store. Does that sound like something you're going to do? If not screw it. Your "tool kit" should be whatever you need to survive until help arrives or you can hike to a cell signal.
3. EVERYTHING else depends on how you feel about the bike as you get to know it. Maybe a seat or windshield, luggage or a centerstand... All good stuff, but not everyone wants everything. Don't waste money you'll regret spending later.
For me the list is long, but it's taken me decades to figure it all out.
Anyway, most of all, this is fun so enjoy it. Congrats!
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2. TOOL KIT? - who are we trying to impress.
Ha! As far as took kits go, for my bug, I use to carry a "McGyver" tool (long pipe for jack leverage, weapon, whatever...), a 11mm? crescent wrench (my windshield wipers liked to fly off), some hairbands (snapped a rotor once, due to mechanic leaving d. cap loose, banded it together, and was good to go), some fuses (my horn freaked one day, and blew one, after blasting for 3 minutes on its own), and an odd assortment of screwdrivers. Sometimes it's good to have some $#!+ in the "glovebox". Besides, I use to be a Scout leader, so I should at least try to "be prepared".
I ask all these questions, because through them, I learn things that never would have occurred to me. Sometimes answers can create new questions, or remind me of forgotten ones. I'm sure I'll come up with more as time goes on. So I appreciate all the time, and energy you've (all) shown me!!!
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This isn't your, or your father's, bug (I faintly remember my dad driving home from the train station one day sitting on a milk crate because VW Beetle seats were popular theft items).
Anyway if I remember you talking about local miles only, maybe a couple hundred per month... No need for tools. Check things before you go.
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This. I have a friend that slimes his tires and has never had a flat, even though there were nails in them. Your tire change guy will not like you, but it's a really good idea for spoked rims.
Slime also makes a kit with a small compressor, patches, etc. Occasionally the typical AutoZone, etc. will have it on sale for around 20 bux. HF sells a small compressor that works, too. Take the plastic stuff off of it and it's really small.
Let's face it. You are not going to do a major overhaul on the side of the road. The most likely breakdown is a flat tire.
Slime is terrible stuff. On aluminum wheels it causes corrosion inside the wheel. I've had some that needed to be replaced due to that stuff. You'd be much better off having a qualified place seal the wheels to be used tubeless and getting a plug kit.
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Slime is terrible stuff. On aluminum wheels it causes corrosion inside the wheel. I've had some that needed to be replaced due to that stuff. You'd be much better off having a qualified place seal the wheels to be used tubeless and getting a plug kit.
Not everyone has that issue. Not sure why you are.
And of course, it's not an issue at all with spoked wheels .....
Lannis
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if your getting a tank bag and you care about the paint you might want to wear protection.
get some removable skin to protect your bike�s painted finish.
(http://lghttp.26404.nexcesscdn.net/80B717/aerostich/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/960x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/9/0/9058_1a.jpg)
http://www.aerostich.com/snider-s-paint-guard.html
http://www.aerostich.com/paint-saver-mesh.html
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Don't carry too much or you'll fill a pannier with tools and assorted kit. A cell phone and credit card are what you'll need for catastrophic failure (which I doubt will happen).
Carry water, which someone has mentioned before.
See what fits and what doesn't and then address that. Often it is the seat on my bikes, but individuals vary, so...just drive it for awhile.
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if your getting a tank bag and you care about the paint you might want to wear protection.
get some removable skin to protect your bike�s painted finish.
Her new bike has a chrome (not painted) tank.
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You will need a rear rack. I prefer the factory "long" rack over the H&B version - it's very substantial, and is flat rather the having the raised stop of the H&B one. Comes in chrome or black. A couple of the smaller Rok Straps & there's the wet gear, warm gear (it can get cold in deserts once the sun goes down) and some shopping - a day pack for the rest. The V 7 doesn't have the scooter's shopping convenience.
The rest can wait until you've ridden the beast a while. The second or third 100 miles for the seat, perhaps - your body will take a while to get used to the new riding position. And before splurging on a seat, try adjusting the handle bars & the foot controls. The rear sets have 3 locating holes, the toe pieces are on cams & the linkages can be adjusted. Move these & the handle bars/clip ons around & up & down until you find a comfortable position which is still comfortable after 100-200 miles. A tiny adjustment can have a significant effect.
Smaller adjustable levers are available - the chinese made ones on eBay are good (seem to fit better than OEM), prettier & cheap at $20-30. If you find the standard levers awkward, get them. Sooner or later the bike is likely to fall over, so it's a good idea to carry a spare set on long thrips. Smaller levers are less likely to break the ends off than the standard ones.
The throttle lock suggestion is a good one - works well on long straight roads (of which you have one or two) - I have found the cheapest one of those available (in the phot) works best for me.
One other thing - breakdown service - over here we can get a reasonably cheap service through the automobile associations which will truck the bike (to wherever) in the event of a breakdown. Check out what's available in your neck of woods. I've used it on occasion - it makes breaking down much less fraught.
After some 3 - 6 months riding, you will have a pretty good idea of what else you are prepared to spend your hard-earned on, and which has priority.
There's a lot of fun there, enjoy.
Per AF1 the standard MG rack does not fit on the Anniversario unless you take off the rather pretty rear grab rail.
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So I went, and bought the bike. The only change made was the leavers, but I will retain the originals, just in case. Dave, with Moto International, wasn't happy with how the H&B center stand fits on the V7 III's, so I deferred to Mr. Guzziology's wisdom. Shoot, I should have asked him to include a signed copy of his book, even if it doesn't cover the III's.
Thanks for all your help!!!
As I said earlier, I put a HB center stand on my Anniversario.
Two issues, one, seemed like I needed to file off some paint/powder coating on the top ends of the square bars that contact the frame. Prior to doing that I could not get the long frame bolt through the stand and bolted up. Also, it helped to grease that bolt, and I ran a round file through the stand as there seemed to be some crud in there hanging stuff up.
Second, the stand comes damn close to the rear brake caliper and disk depending on how you have it adjusted. More clearance from the brake caliper, lower the stand is when riding with potential cornering issues. I think I have mine adjusted ok, but have not tried to drag it yet.
OTOH, the bike sure does look pretty on its center stand.
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Socialrob, I'm gonna see of H&B comes out with a V7 III specific c. stand for Anni. I've copy/pasted your hints on getting yours to fit, just in case. Let me know if dragging is an issue.
Malik, I prefer the long rack too, but as I won't be traveling on her, I have time to look around. As Socialrob said, she does have a pretty grab rail.
Fotoguzzi, I'm not sure I want to cover up that tank & leather with a bag. That film stuff is similar to a screen protector for phones, and tablets, and I actually used some on a guitar that didn't have a pick guard. It worked perfectly! AZGuzzirep, mentioned in another post, about the tank being miserable in the Arizona sun, so I may have to rethink the bag at some point. I might sew a leather (possibly suede) tank cover to match the seat, or simple bag that will work with the look.
Kev m, yup, local, mellow, short rides whilst the kiddos are in school, and Hubbs is at work. My longest rides will be to attend a monthly motorcycle skills class, or maybe a breakfast with the local Guzzista, if they'll have me.
Oldbike54, Ah yes, petrol. Guess I'd better figure out how to fill the tank without making a mess of things! :embarrassed:
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an inexpensive throttle lock to give your go hand relief.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Buell/i-69dtg2Q/0/e5874d99/M/IMG_1977-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Buell/i-69dtg2Q/A)
Other than taking the opportunity to make a childish comment regarding the "hand relief" suggestion, I'm wondering if Guzzi Gal should have such a device at this stage. If she needed to get off the throttle instantly for some easily imaginable reason, and it didn't absolutely snap shut with a whack, it could at best be very unsettling, or at worst...You know the feeling when you take your hand off the grip, expecting to feel the lunge forward and a trickle of throttle stays on, you feel like your gunna get thrown off the back for an instant.
I didn't get the impression that GG is a tiny shrinking violet, and with a military(?) background is probably pretty tough and gritty. I'd be leaving that off if I were her. I hate the buggers, never had one and ( never will).
Kev M made a good comment (again), put bars on it and ride it, ride it, ride it, etc...The good ideas that apply to YOU, will appear soon enough. If you listen to too many people you'll just end up with a hotchpotch of ideas that don't mesh and it'll get confusing and conflicting. Go to places where lots of similar bikers hang out and you'll see what works. Enjoy the bastard, good on you :bow:
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Congrats on the bike - you're gonna love it.
I always carry a pump and plugs (tubeless tires). The pump came from Cycle Gear (http://tinyurl.com/jkalmtu (http://tinyurl.com/jkalmtu)) and I keep one on Da Loaner, as well as one on the Norge.
Slime in tube tires is a good idea - maybe not so much in tubeless.
I, too, carry a couple of wrenches that Guzzi forgot to add to the kit. Not much, but enough to keep me going.
AAA with the RV/Motorcycle towing package which gives me 100 miles per tow, 4x per year. The AMA also has a good roadside assistance/towing option with its membership, and my insurance company (Progressive through USAA) also includes towing. I think I could be in Texas and have enough free towing to get me home.
Always have at least one credit card that will cover the cost of a hotel room and renting a truck to get home if necessary.
Oh yes, and one of these wrenches - SAE on one end and Metric on the other. Found this at an aircraft parts house right next to a bucket of prop wash :cool:
(http://thumb.ibb.co/mRxZrk/wrench_53.jpg) (http://ibb.co/mRxZrk)
upload image on internet (http://imgbb.com/)
jdg
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Sorry, but I think you added an "r" when you said you carry a couple of "wenches" to keep you going.. The metric and imperial on opposing end's got me in a tizz . Anyway am I in error? angel:
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Sorry, but I think you added an "r" when you said you carry a couple of "wenches" to keep you going.. Am I in error? :angel:
Usually only one wench, unless they are bite sized, then maybe two. :evil:
jdg
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Usually only one wench, unless they are bite sized, then maybe two. :evil:
jdg
Touche' Sir!
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+1 on the Kaeko throttle lock.
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Since the V7 has inner tubes, the sticky ropes are not needed but in case a compressor is still desired, here is what I had fit into the very small storage space of the multistrada. The Leatherman REV multitool I got at Home Depot, most compact of multitools while still being quality and made in USA. Headlamp shown stowed upper right is a petzyl e+Lite: inexpensive, super compact, and just enough light for roadside op's at night.
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/44-multistrada/620570-dvt-pictures-my-under-seat-day-night-tire-repair-kit-w-air-comp.html
https://www.amazon.com/Petzl-e-LITE-26-Lumens/dp/B008AUBOTS/
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Other than taking the opportunity to make a childish comment regarding the "hand relief" suggestion, I'm wondering if Guzzi Gal should have such a device at this stage.
I agree that a new rider doesn't need and probably shouldn't use a throttle lock. And GG is talking short local rides so it's completely irrelevant right now.
That said Huzo I think you completely misunderstood his reference. "Go hand" = throttle, and relief was for cramping our fatigue. I read neither with a double-entendre (childish or otherwise).
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The Moto Guzzi tow service is worthless living in the counry. I called them from Vaughn, NM on a Sunday and they didn't even answer the phone. 90% of the people in San Angelo have a pickup so that would be a reliable tow IF you need one.
I wouldn't worry about flats as you aren't going to Candelaria, TX (look that one up lol). KERA members have no idea what it is like to change a tire when it is 100 degrees.
I wouldn't worry about the seat until you put a 1,000 miles on it. Usually you will get use to the seat. RatGuzzi had the nerve endings removed from his butt so he doesn't feel pain. LOL After being married 7 times I no longer have any feeling as my ask has been chewed on so much.
Ride it. Enjoy it and don't read to many horror stories.
Tex
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:1: on the AAA motorcycle package. Just $15 to add it...excellent roadside service. Here in Ct I found they have four trucks with the wheel condors...they are used to picking up 60k Harley's onto flatbeds around here.... :evil:
Oh, don't forget the Zaino...
https://www.zainostore.com
Now forget everything and enjoy yourself
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I agree that a new rider doesn't need and probably shouldn't use a throttle lock. And GG is talking short local rides so it's completely irrelevant right now.
That said Huzo I think you completely misunderstood his reference. "Go hand" = throttle, and relief was for cramping our fatigue. I read neither with a double-entendre (childish or otherwise).
I know Kev. And I know you would also, thought it was a little bit funny, (but maybe not)
I actually knew what he meant.. The misplacing of a comma in a sentence to alter the meaning is called an "Oxford comma", just thought I'd have a play. Not much going on at the moment. :bike-037:
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Slime is terrible stuff. On aluminum wheels it causes corrosion inside the wheel. I've had some that needed to be replaced due to that stuff. You'd be much better off having a qualified place seal the wheels to be used tubeless and getting a plug kit.
Uhhh, it's inside the tube. (?) I don't have tube type wheels, but if I did, I'd have Slime in em.
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I actually knew what he meant.. The misplacing of a comma in a sentence to alter the meaning is called an "Oxford comma", just thought I'd have a play.
I'm not trying to be obtuse, but I'm failing to see where a comma might be properly inserted in the quote, but then the quote is such a fragment perhaps I'm missing the context?
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Anyplace something will touch your bike consider using IRC Racers tape available at www.findtape.com. 2" by 12' will do well.
it's not tape per say but a poly product that works wonderfully well. Goes on easy, leaves zero residue when removed, lets UV pass so everything ages the same, holds up for YEARS if needed, and on and on.
I use it under any magnets when I use a tank bag to protect the paint and it works a TREAT. If you strap a "bungee" or similar if it intersects with any frame rail or such-bingo, apply a bit of tape and no wear marks. Uses on a motorcycle are almost endless. I also apply to the leading edge of my front forks each spring to keep them from getting "highway wash" and it lasts all summer. Best part is you won't even know it's there.
It's not cheap but it's worth every penny.
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Anyplace something will touch your bike consider using IRC Racers tape available at www.findtape.com. 2" by 12' will do well.
it's not tape per say but a poly product that works wonderfully well. Goes on easy, leaves zero residue when removed, lets UV pass so everything ages the same, holds up for YEARS if needed, and on and on.
I use it under any magnets when I use a tank bag to protect the paint and it works a TREAT. If you strap a "bungee" or similar if it intersects with any frame rail or such-bingo, apply a bit of tape and no wear marks. Uses on a motorcycle are almost endless. I also apply to the leading edge of my front forks each spring to keep them from getting "highway wash" and it lasts all summer. Best part is you won't even know it's there.
It's not cheap but it's worth every penny.
:thumb: :thumb:
Thanks for this! Might you mean ISC?
https://www.findtape.com/racers-tape/surface-guard-tape/c112/?tref=ln
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I'm not trying to be obtuse, but I'm failing to see where a comma might be properly inserted in the quote, but then the quote is such a fragment perhaps I'm missing the context?
Yes you are Kev, but that's part of your charm. So one more go and that's it for me.
A comma BETWEEN the noun "hand" and the verb "relief" would indicate relief FOR your hand...
Now, a comma BEFORE noun "hand" would conjoin the noun and the verb to form the term "hand relief".
Now I know you understood that, but you dragged me out anyway.
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Yes you are Kev, but that's part of your charm.
Bite-me. At least give me the courtesy of taking me at my word when I am sincerely asking a question.
A comma BETWEEN the noun "hand" and the verb "relief" would indicate relief FOR your hand...
Now, a comma BEFORE noun "hand" would conjoin the noun and the verb to form the term "hand relief".
Now I know you understood that, but you dragged me out anyway.
an inexpensive throttle lock to give your go hand, relief.
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an inexpensive throttle lock to give your go, hand relief.
Maybe I need to go find the original sentence, but neither of your comma uses strike me as proper or helpful and I did not understand that is what you were trying to say from your posts.
Possible edits that might work would include:
an inexpensive throttle lock to give your go-hand some relief.
an inexpensive throttle lock to give some relief to your go-hand.
an inexpensive throttle lock to provide some relief for your go-hand.
No matter... it's hardly important.
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Things I wish someone would have told me when I first started riding highway at the age of 15:
1. Take the MSF Basic Rider Course. It decreases insurance premiums too.
2. It's not a matter of IF you're going to crash, it's a matter of WHEN you're going to crash. Stay ready for it.
3. Wet pavement is slick. Wet center-lines are like ice.
4. Don't ride with those that are more experienced, until you are equal. You'll only feel pressured to keep up. That's dangerous.
5. Don't worry about the bike. It'll be fine. Just enjoy the scenery and keep it out of the ditch :thumb:
6. 98% of all motorcycle accidents are not the bikes fault.
7. Don't try and be cool. Keep the helmet on. Trust me on that one.
A side note of opinion only...I taught the MSF course for many years. Both when I was in the military, and then upon returning to civilian life. I strongly advise AGAINST any kind of throttle assistance, luggage, riding 2-up, etc, until you have some experience with that particular bike under your belt. You're gonna be busy enough learning about the bike, its behaviors, handling, braking, etc. Don't worry about the nick-nacks just yet. It'll come to you what you need in no time.
Be safe and welcome to the madhouse. :grin:
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What Luap said. All of it.
I still won't even go up to the post office (all of a km) without helmet, gloves, jacket & boots. Not worth the risk.
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Luap speaks the truth, but observing my wife (who is fiercely competitive in the martial arts and most things in life, and drives like a banshee) I have to wonder if the competition to keep up with more experienced riders is generally more limited to us more primitive beasts with higher testosterone content. I say this cause Jenn (and a number of other women riders I've known) are more than happy to hang back and laugh at us guys when/if riding starts to become a measuring contest.
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Things I wish someone would have told me when I first started riding highway at the age of 15:
1. Take the MSF Basic Rider Course. It decreases insurance premiums too. Done
2. It's not a matter of IF you're going to crash, it's a matter of WHEN you're going to crash. Stay ready for it. Sad, but true.
3. Wet pavement is slick. Wet center-lines are like ice. Arizona doesn't get much. When it does, I'm too busy watching it to ride in it. I'll make a point of taking a few rain rides, after I get some more saddle time, to get the feel.
4. Don't ride with those that are more experienced, until you are equal. You'll only feel pressured to keep up. That's dangerous. I'll catch up. Eventually. :grin:
5. Don't worry about the bike. It'll be fine. Just enjoy the scenery and keep it out of the ditch :thumb: I like the way you think!
6. 98% of all motorcycle accidents are not the bikes fault. I'm invisible!
7. Don't try and be cool. Keep the helmet on. Trust me on that one. I've got more cool factors than y'all can take. ATGATT makes me tolerable! :wink:
A side note of opinion only...I taught the MSF course for many years. Both when I was in the military, and then upon returning to civilian life. I strongly advise AGAINST any kind of throttle assistance, luggage, riding 2-up, etc, until you have some experience with that particular bike under your belt. You're gonna be busy enough learning about the bike, its behaviors, handling, braking, etc. Don't worry about the nick-nacks just yet. It'll come to you what you need in no time. Probably will never need it.
Be safe and welcome to the madhouse. :grin: THANKS!!!
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Congrats on the new bike and Welcome!
3. Wet pavement is slick. Wet center-lines are like ice. Arizona doesn't get much. When it does, I'm too busy watching it to ride in it. I'll make a point of taking a few rain rides, after I get some more saddle time, to get the feel.
All True and the big thing here in Arizona, is after months and weeks of no rain all the oils creep up to the top layer and then it rains, even just a little and all that oil becomes Ice Rink conditions. Be wary of riding after the first rainstorm and You'll do fine.
Paul B :boozing:
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I didn't get the impression that GG is a tiny shrinking violet, and with a military(?) background is probably pretty tough and gritty.
If you listen to too many people you'll just end up with a hotchpotch of ideas that don't mesh and it'll get confusing and conflicting. Go to places where lots of similar bikers hang out and you'll see what works. Enjoy the bastard, good on you :bow:
Nope, I'm not even a military brat (dad suffered hearing loss in a teen car accident, and wasn't able to serve), but grandpa was a marine, and grandma was a WAC. I have been known to shoot at "things" on occasion, though. I'm also the only child of a very Jerry Springer family, and learned DIY early on. Being the helper for my Eagle Scout dad, and and electrician uncle gave me a can do attitude towards most fix-it stuff.
I kind of soak in the data, ruminate, then spit out what will work for now. The rest gets stored in a vast pit of strange, but sometimes useful info. Often to be regurgitated at the oddest moments. :rolleyes:
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One piece of advice (especially if you're riding in Arizona). Don't let it sit at idle for too long without moving. An.... hour say ... is way too long. :rolleyes: Don't ask me how I know. Filter if you can and it's comfortable; pull over for a nice meal and something cool to drink if it's nearby.
After my oops, the dealer said they don't idle the bikes longer than about 10 minutes. I'm sure that's really conservative but it's a guideline.
And truly, enjoy the heck out of it. A nice bike with a lot of character. You'll have fun.
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One piece of advice (especially if you're riding in Arizona). Don't let it sit at idle for too long without moving. An.... hour say ... is way too long. :rolleyes: Don't ask me how I know. Filter if you can and it's comfortable; pull over for a nice meal and something cool to drink if it's nearby.
After my oops, the dealer said they don't idle the bikes longer than about 10 minutes. I'm sure that's really conservative but it's a guideline.
And truly, enjoy the heck out of it. A nice bike with a lot of character. You'll have fun.
If I can't stand the heat, she can't. Filtering scares the crapola outa me, so I'll find the "cool" shade of a sparse palo, or mesquite, and wait out the traffic. If I'm lucky, a Starbucks will be nearby, and I can awe the baby hipsters with my shiny steed. Nothing like a silver haired mama, on a hot bike (scooter), to kickstart a conversation.
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Congrats on your new baby!! I agree with all of those who have said to take it slowly and ride the bike for a while before contemplating changes. I bought my Stone II because I liked it "as is" right out the door. Since my preference is a naked bike, I have not added bags or a top case. I have mounted a flat carrier from MG Cycle in Albany, WI.. This allows me to use soft luggage or a picnic cooler as the need arises. Windshield? A must for me! Tried the Guzzi touring shield and found it way too tall. I wanted something that would allow me to crouch & peer over when the rains came so a fly shield was not an option. I find that a GIVI A-620 works for me without looking obtrusive.
As a safety item you might want to change your tail light to a brighter bulb.The Sylvania ZEVO 2357R is a direct replacement and is available from Amazon.
HAPPY TRAILS!!
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As a safety item you might want to change your tail light to a brighter bulb. The Sylvania ZEVO 2357R is a direct replacement and is available from Amazon.
Good to know. Thanks!
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Great Choice GG. Looking forward to photos and impressions. Cheers
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Congratulations with your purchase, and welcome to the site!
Look ahead when riding. Then keep on practising, preferably with professional tutors.
You will probably appreciate a small windshield for your bike.
Try to find a luggage rack that you can strap small items on, and which you can put a top case and/or side cases on at some stage.
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One thing I found out in the last couple of days has made riding my V7 III a lot smoother - disable the traction control system! P 92 of the Stone owners manual.
Unfortunately, I don't think you can disable it permanently and have to do it every time you turn on the ignition, but lowering the level to 1 helps and it will remember that setting.
This will help make gearchanges much smoother. I thought it was me at first. but no, it's the traction control (on a 52 bhp motorcycle!!!)
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One thing I found out in the last couple of days has made riding my V7 III a lot smoother - disable the traction control system! P 92 of the Stone owners manual.
Unfortunately, I don't think you can disable it permanently and have to do it every time you turn on the ignition, but lowering the level to 1 helps and it will remember that setting.
This will help make gearchanges much smoother. I thought it was me at first. but no, it's the traction control (on a 52 bhp motorcycle!!!)
Thanks for the suggestion! :thumb:
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NO to the throttle lock! You are a new rider. You won't be riding much on the highway anyway. As others mention, just get used to it. Make sure your mirrors give you a good view. The little mirror extenders may help visibility. A set of crash bars might be prudent- think about the possibility of a driveway drop. Happens to everyone.
Buy nice riding gear before you spend dough on the bike. Cheap stuff doesn't last. I find the Rev it brand to strike a nice balance between quality and price. Nice gloves really are worth it. I have Held "Steve classic" gloves and they are super. Always wear boots- good ones that are comfy to walk in are hard to find.
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Another um, area to consider is...underwear...co tton anything is not recommended for any weather...invest in some quality activewear like Moto-Skiveez or similar (some wear bicycling clothing)...the important thing is that it wicks away moisture and provides inner-thigh protection for long AND short rides...many manufacturers now have added undergarments specfically tailored for women riders...
Here are some links to peruse:
http://motoskiveez.com/ (http://motoskiveez.com/)
http://www.activeundies.com.au/ (http://www.activeundies.com.au/)
https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/womens/underwear/g/3c3s (https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/womens/underwear/g/3c3s)
Enjoy your new ride!
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CONGRATS! I love mine, it is a great bike.
Been riding Guzzis since 1986. Must haves in my opinion:
- cell phone and means to charge it (USB connector--- Battery Tender, Aerostich and Warm N Safe make nice ones)
- spare inner tube (Slime that I have seen is only rated to 45 MPH if you RTFM it will tell you) you can't plug an inner tube and a spare beats a patch.
The rest is gravy. I agree with the wait and see folks. The factory stuff is great, but very pricey!
I have the cool canvas and leather bags ($1400, my brother bought them for me)
The bar end mirrors ($575 I think) and original mirror thread covers (yeah I know, $75 WTH)
And a fly screen from Dart, around $100. The dart screen is good for me (6' tall) but the brackets did not fit as advertised, and their support was great but even with moving stuff around it still did not fit. Works fine but does not rest on the big factory bracket/brace as intended.
Good luck, ride it like you stole it! It is brand new so don't sweat the repair stuff yet! You got 2 years roadside assistance.
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Congratulations on a lovely purchase. What a nice small block! I agree with those that advised to spend some saddle time before starting to add a bunch of farkles. But yes, a center stand has always been a must for me.
Enjoy!
Bob
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Cangrats and welcome to the crazy world of Guzzi!! :thumb:
Tom
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Another um, area to consider is...underwear...
Thanks for broaching a touchy subject. I have some underwear for cycling, with padding, that work well. I also have a closet full of Under Armour to keep me comfy in our outrageous heat.
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Cangrats and welcome to the crazy world of Guzzi!! :thumb:
:grin: Happy-happy. Joy-joy.
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Correct on the Racer's tape. Typo by me. It's seriously great stuff.
One other thing I've learned from top notch riding instructors. Take a few moments and think about what "being invisible" means. Where will you position the bike in traffic? At entrance/exit of highways? Shopping malls? Understanding how to "present yourself" in traffic?
Using other vehicles as "blocking backs" but where and when? Point is many of us use that term but may not think how to translate that into proven street survival strategies.
A good place to start is a small book by David Hough called "Street Strategies" which is a short collection of one page scenarios of typical street dangers and specific ways to handle them. I refer to mine often as a refresher.
I was told at 15 by an old Harley rider that you get two buckets when you buy a motorcycle. One is filled with luck and the other is labeled experience and is empty. You job is to fill the empty bucket prior to emptying the full one.
Or, looked at another way, which may assist you in the coming years. As a former professional SCUBA and mixed gas instructor (I know kev m dives so I'm sure he can relate and join in on this) I had the opportunity to train many folks with years of experience as well as new divers. One of the very first challenges presented to experienced divers was a self assessment of their skills with the question "Do you have XXX amount of years experience or do you have one years experience repeated over XXX years?"
You'll never stop learning about survival on a street bike and you have a wonderful machine to explore all this with. Have fun and be safe.
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One other thing I've learned from top notch riding instructors. Take a few moments and think about what "being invisible" means. Where will you position the bike in traffic? At entrance/exit of highways? Shopping malls? Understanding how to "present yourself" in traffic?
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Or, looked at another way, which may assist you in the coming years. As a former professional SCUBA and mixed gas instructor (I know kev m dives so I'm sure he can relate and join in on this) I had the opportunity to train many folks with years of experience as well as new divers. One of the very first challenges presented to experienced divers was a self assessment of their skills with the question "Do you have XXX amount of years experience or do you have one years experience repeated over XXX years?"
You'll never stop learning about survival on a street bike and you have a wonderful machine to explore all this with. Have fun and be safe.
I like the bucket analogy.
On presentation that's a good point. YES ride like you're invisible from a standpoint of never assume they see you. But that doesn't mean you don't do things to help make sure they DO see you (lane positioning, occasional weave or use of high beam if situation arises).
I think one of the most dangerous situations is say when a car is waiting to pull out from a side street on your right (left in front of you) and YOU ARE FOLLOWING SOMEONE who is turning right in front of that car. The vehicle in front of you can completely shroud/screen you from the left turner. It's tempting to accelerate and pass the car getting out of your way, but unless you can see the car trying to turn left AT ALL TIMES don't do it as they may go when they realize the car in front of you is turning and in essence blocking you and any traffic behind you. I cover the brake the whole time, avoid too much acceleration, and sometimes wait for the car in front of me to have turned and be completely out of the way and I'm as certain as I can be that the left turner isn't going to go for it before I proceed.
On the Scuba thing I think the take away is that you shouldn't ever fully let your guard down. I think many accidents happen when a rider has SOME experience, maybe 6 months or a year and they start to get cocky. The think "I got this" and let their guard down then BAMN. But that doesn't mean that 20 or 30 years later we might not make the same mistake. So yeah, HONEST self-assessment.
I've trained in the martial arts since high school and one thing I tell my students or fellow karateka is that "Karate is volunteering to be Sisyphus" and in some ways so is deciding to ride a motorcycle.
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Good insight. The scenario you describe is really dangerous and it's one of the things covered in Street Strategies.
And right you are on 6 months in. IIRC it's a statistically high point for incidents involving new riders. Another high point, again IIRC, is around the 6-7 year mark.
Off topic: did you go to Jon's NYS track event again this year?
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Off topic: did you go to Jon's NYS track event again this year?
No, I'm sure it would have been fantastic again. I'd like to.
My original plan (Man plans and God laughs or something like that) was to order/buy a new Harley CX Roadster and do the track day on it.
Then I bought a giant barge touring bike out of no where and used the time/money to explore a little instead.
:shocked:
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A good place to start is a small book by David Hough called "Street Strategies" which is a short collection of one page scenarios of typical street dangers and specific ways to handle them. I refer to mine often as a refresher.
I was told at 15 by an old Harley rider that you get two buckets when you buy a motorcycle. One is filled with luck and the other is labeled experience and is empty. You job is to fill the empty bucket prior to emptying the full one.
You'll never stop learning about survival on a street bike and you have a wonderful machine to explore all this with. Have fun and be safe.
Thanks! I ordered that book, and two others by David Hough.
In school we teach kids to "bucket fill" by encouraging fellow students, so I understand completely the bucket concept.
Yup, being invisible means finding ways to become more visible. My husband was almost broadsided, at a four way stop, yesterday. In his car! I was following him in mine, and saw it go down. He clearly had the right of way, but the other guy was playing with his phone. :angry: I'd hate to think of what would have happened if he was astride a bike. :sad:
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Congrats Guzzi Gal.
I rented a V7III and I liked it so much I'm still considering buying one. There were some minor things I'd change though.
(there are lots of great ideas in this thread, and I didn't read them all so my apologies if these are repeats)
Adjust the hand and foot levers for you and how you sit on the bike. I set up the brake and clutch levers similar to my mountain bike so that my wrist is neutral, not bent vertically. I set the shift and brake foot levers lower - closer to where my toe is normally so I don't have to move my foot a lot, just rotate it on the peg.
On the V7III I wanted to lean forward just a little more and so would fit lower bars. (the V7 Racer I tried was better, but I didn't ride it as long). A friend has found that SPIII bars do not bend his wrist side to side and are very comfortable for him. It made me realize that the bars on my bike does bend my wrists to the side.
Because I was sitting bolt upright on the V7III the wind pressure on the freeway was tiring. A small fairing would help a lot. And because I don't have a good touring bike, I would put bags on it. (seems like you've already decided on these)
(http://thumb.ibb.co/gk0xe5/IMG_0406.jpg) (http://ibb.co/gk0xe5)
And low seats are comfortable for stopping, starting and parking. I'm not short, but all my bikes have low seats (they are also old and don't have much suspension travel). Low seating makes it much easier to move in and out of parking spaces, and stop and start on slanted or uneven ground.
All my bikes have center or rear stands and I use them all the time. I think that a well designed side stand can be more stable than a center stand, but the center stand lifts the rear wheel and sits the bike vertically which is very helpful when doing maintenance.
Enjoy the Ride :bike-037:
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I like the bucket analogy.
On presentation that's a good point. YES ride like you're invisible from a standpoint of never assume they see you. But that doesn't mean you don't do things to help make sure they DO see you (lane positioning, occasional weave or use of high beam if situation arises).
I think one of the most dangerous situations is say when a car is waiting to pull out from a side street on your right (left in front of you) and YOU ARE FOLLOWING SOMEONE who is turning right in front of that car. The vehicle in front of you can completely shroud/screen you from the left turner. It's tempting to accelerate and pass the car getting out of your way, but unless you can see the car trying to turn left AT ALL TIMES don't do it as they may go when they realize the car in front of you is turning and in essence blocking you and any traffic behind you. I cover the brake the whole time, avoid too much acceleration, and sometimes wait for the car in front of me to have turned and be completely out of the way and I'm as certain as I can be that the left turner isn't going to go for it before I proceed.
On the Scuba thing I think the take away is that you shouldn't ever fully let your guard down. I think many accidents happen when a rider has SOME experience, maybe 6 months or a year and they start to get cocky. The think "I got this" and let their guard down then BAMN. But that doesn't mean that 20 or 30 years later we might not make the same mistake. So yeah, HONEST self-assessment.
I've trained in the martial arts since high school and one thing I tell my students or fellow karateka is that "Karate is volunteering to be Sisyphus" and in some ways so is deciding to ride a motorcycle.
All good, I would add the following:
I think a high percentage of "the car driver did not see me" is at least partially due to the rider speeding. Slow down and the number of close calls reduces dramatically. In fact, if you are getting close calls on anything more frequent than very occasional, you are doing something wrong, and speed probably has a lot to do with it.
The other thing is, if you see an unusual situation, slow way down until you figure it out. That big truck parked in the center lane with hazard flashers on may do something crazy like turn across your lane into a driveway for no reason. You saw the truck. You saw the hazards. But did you see what could happen? Slow down and figure it out.
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Firstly, congrats on the new bike! :thumb:
I noticed a few posts back someone mentioned a different tail light bulb. I found some LED bulbs at the local parts store for very reasonable money and nice and bright, with a noticeable contrast between the tail and brake lights. You might want to check out the thread I started about it a while back.
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=89928.0
John Henry
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I just received this email, and I'm feeling a bit giddy! :grin:
Your bike arrived yesterday and was set up today. I did some of the adjustments myself. Our service manager, who rode it to the gas station, remarked what a perfect little bike it is. I am just about to book the shipment.
Ciao,
Dave Richardson
Moto International
BTW, do my "bumps" annoy any of you? Let me know, and I'll try to contain myself. All of my IRL people aren't as enthused, which leads me to do happy "pressure releases" here.
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Woot woot!
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Crap.. I'm feeling giddy for you. :smiley: Exciting stuff.
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I just received this email, and I'm feeling a bit giddy! :grin:
Your bike arrived yesterday and was set up today. I did some of the adjustments myself. Our service manager, who rode it to the gas station, remarked what a perfect little bike it is. I am just about to book the shipment.
Ciao,
Dave Richardson
Moto International
BTW, do my "bumps" annoy any you? Let me know, and I'll try to contain myself. All of my IRL people aren't as enthused, which leads me to do happy "pressure releases" here.
If something you post on a properly labeled thread "annoys" anyone, you're dealing with someone who needs help.
Why would any sane person "annoy" themselves by reading a thread that they don't want to read?
Post early and often! We're feeling a little bit of the anticipation that you're feeling. Carly Simon sang a song about that, and it's true - sometimes the Anticipation is as good as the Happening!
Looking forward to the delivery ....
Lannis
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If something you post on a properly labeled thread "annoys" anyone, you're dealing with someone who needs help.
Why would any sane person "annoy" themselves by reading a thread that they don't want to read?
Post early and often! We're feeling a little bit of the anticipation that you're feeling. Carly Simon sang a song about that, and it's true - sometimes the Anticipation is as good as the Happening!
Looking forward to the delivery ....
Lannis
Agreed. If there is one thing anybody should be allowed to get excited is impending delivery of a new (or new to them) moto. Not much better in the world, especially when it is a new limited addition Anniversario.
Speaking of which, finally got around to changing when the flashing red shift light comes on. Anybody know why there are both "low" and "high" shift light settings? The lowest you can set either one is 4,000, so I do not think it is to tell you to shift when you are lugging the engine.
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Carly Simon, what a talented lady!
When I was trading emails with Dave Richardson, I explained "I ve sat on this bike's sisters, barefoot (ATGATT isn t required to pilot a minivan), and the balls of my feet hit firmly, but not the heels.", because I wanted his opinion about lowering options. He responded saying "You know, I had to look up "ATGATT" as I've never heard it before!". :azn: I taught Mr. Guzziology something!
O.k., I'm done preening. Thanks for supporting my obsession. :bow:
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Carly Simon, what a talented lady!
When I was trading emails with Dave Richardson, I explained "I ve sat on this bike's sisters, barefoot (ATGATT isn t required to pilot a minivan), and the balls of my feet hit firmly, but not the heels.", because I wanted his opinion about lowering options. He responded saying "You know, I had to look up "ATGATT" as I've never heard it before!". :azn: I taught Mr. Guzziology something!
O.k., I'm done preening. Thanks for supporting my obsession. :bow:
Some basrards here would make a good wife. They just can't stand to see you enjoy yourself.
Go Ga Ga, GG ! :thumb:
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"Dammit Guzzi Gal, Git off my G*d D*#m lawn!!!" The bent old bastard hollered to the extent that his broken down, 2 1/2 pack Marlboro red for 60 year old voice could muster.
But then he heard a twig snap, he looked up, and too his surprise, their she was, proudly astride that Italian bastard, ripping and blazing across his tired beaten grass. Just before he collapsed at the end of his rope, he thought, "dam the young, dam the young at heart! Who the F/*^k to they think they ar..." And that was it, his tiny little light snuffed out. But not hers, she popped a little wheelie and peeled off into the horizon...
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Uhh, Chad my man..
:smiley: :smiley:
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Welcome! Your excited, who wouldn't be, you are taking ownership of a kick ass motorcycle! But aside from the Slime idea, I would suggest you wait a bit, ride it a bit, and then start your trek.
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"Dammit Guzzi Gal, Git off my G*d D*#m lawn!!!" The bent old bastard hollered to the extent that his broken down, 2 1/2 pack Marlboro red for 60 year old voice could muster.
But then he heard a twig snap, he looked up, and too his surprise, their she was, proudly astride that Italian bastard, ripping and blazing across his tired beaten grass. Just before he collapsed at the end of his rope, he thought, "dam the young, dam the young at heart! Who the F/*^k to they think they ar..." And that was it, his tiny little light snuffed out. But not hers, she popped a little wheelie and peeled off into the horizon...
Drunk as a boiled owl at 6:00 in the evening. This stuff would scare ME off .... :evil: :tongue: :wink:
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Drunk as a boiled owl
I've never heard that one before- that's brilliant. I'll have to remember it.
GuzziGal, feel free to keep posting. Just about everyone is getting a vicarious thrill out of it. And we are happy to see 'new blood' that appreciate the marque.
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[Drunk as a boiled owl] I've never heard that one before- that's brilliant. I'll have to remember it.
Sometimes it takes a special WG posting to inspire one to heights of literary simile.
GuzziGal, feel free to keep posting. Just about everyone is getting a vicarious thrill out of it. And we are happy to see 'new blood' that appreciate the marque.
Yeah, GG, but don't encourage these guys in trench coats who are giving you advice on women's underwear - that's a little TOO vicarious for decent behavior behind the keyboard ...
Lannis
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I seriously recommend a windshield. This past Tuesday reminded me why, as I drove in a three mile long two laned traffic jam with cars and 18 wheelers on I-81 coming up from VA heading to NY. In my car, when a vehicle two in front of me kicked up a rock. Spotted it as it passed by the car in font of me's passenger side view mirror . Winced as it hit my car's windhield directly in line with my Adam's Apple (and I was driving) making a loud whump and a large spider web of broken glass. If I had been on a bike without a windshield, I would have been lucky to come out with only a sore larynx, but probably something worse. It even woke my wife up!
ps - you have picked a great looking ride, and if I can ever stop making the "necessary" improvements to the place I moved into last year, I'll be looking to buy it's twin. I am, Green With Envy.
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"Dammit Guzzi Gal, Git off my G*d D*#m lawn!!!" The bent old bastard hollered to the extent that his broken down, 2 1/2 pack Marlboro red for 60 year old voice could muster.
But then he heard a twig snap, he looked up, and too his surprise, their she was, proudly astride that Italian bastard, ripping and blazing across his tired beaten grass. Just before he collapsed at the end of his rope, he thought, "dam the young, dam the young at heart! Who the F/*^k to they think they ar..." And that was it, his tiny little light snuffed out. But not hers, she popped a little wheelie and peeled off into the horizon...
HA! I resemble that remark! Been there, done that. Picture a VW van, packed to the gills with teens, doing donuts on a golf course. No boiled owls in sight.
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I hope Moto International doesn't use Haulbikes (Daily Direct LLC) for transport or you might be waiting a while . . . :clock:
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I hope Moto International doesn't use Haulbikes (Daily Direct LLC) for transport or you might be waiting a while . . . :clock:
Me too. Seems I'd have around a 1o% chance of having trouble with the delivery process. :sad:
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an inexpensive throttle lock to give your go hand relief.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Buell/i-69dtg2Q/0/e5874d99/M/IMG_1977-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Buell/i-69dtg2Q/A)
I would personally never recommend a throttle lock or cramp buster to a new rider. Those are potentially dangerous devices that can even catch an experienced rider by surprise.
Maybe you need some more practice with your right hand if you need a throttle lock to ride your bike. ;)