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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: kidsmoke on August 22, 2017, 02:14:46 PM
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looking to purchase one of these. Both I'm certain do the job well. Both are MADE IN USA, and pretty pricey relative to their Harbor freight type competitors. I've come to peace with that.
Condor: less expensive than Baxley, folds down when necessary
Baxley: has a nice lock feature when loaded, prevents pivot from from pivoting.
Any reason to buy one and not the other?
Leaning Baxley.
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looking to purchase one of these. Both I'm certain do the job well. Both are MADE IN USA, and pretty pricey relative to their Harbor freight type competitors. I've come to peace with that.
Condor: less expensive than Baxley, folds down when necessary
Baxley: has a nice lock feature when loaded, prevents pivot from from pivoting.
Any reason to buy one and not the other?
Leaning Baxley.
I have a Condor and it works very well. Holds the Stelvio securely. I don't have any experience with the Baxley.
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I have been using the Baxley for over 10 years. Mine does duty both in the garage and in my trailer, absolutely no complaints (other than I wish I had bought it earlier). Mine has a feature to change the width of the tire clamp as the whole clamp rotates fwd. It is also very secure on a concrete floor, thanks to the rubber pads. When using this on the trailer I drop large nails (spikes) down through pre-drilled holes in the trailer bed so the chock cannot walk around while underway. Condor probably has all these features. The one drawback to my Baxley is that it is steel and now shows some signs of rust around pivot points.
Peter Y.
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You never lose buying quality the first time. Purchase one time and be done.
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You never lose buying quality the first time. Purchase one time and be done.
From an old surveyor's equipment catalog from the 1880's:
“The Bitterness of Poor Quality remains Long after the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten"
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From an old surveyor's equipment catalog from the 1880's:
"The Bitterness of Poor Quality remains Long after the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten"
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I have been using the Baxley for over 10 years. Mine does duty both in the garage and in my trailer, absolutely no complaints (other than I wish I had bought it earlier). Mine has a feature to change the width of the tire clamp as the whole clamp rotates fwd. It is also very secure on a concrete floor, thanks to the rubber pads. When using this on the trailer I drop large nails (spikes) down through pre-drilled holes in the trailer bed so the chock cannot walk around while underway. Condor probably has all these features. The one drawback to my Baxley is that it is steel and now shows some signs of rust around pivot points.
Peter Y.
got a bit of time in on you tube. In reply to whats red ^^, nope. The Baxley increasingly clamps the tire as it pivots (blue ^^). The condor is just a static cradle. That seals it in my view. Great feature
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Never used a Condor. have a Baxley and love it. had a HF one and gave it away to get rid of it.
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I have a Baxley mounted on my HF table..works a treat. Not cheap but I can ride up on the table and walk away..no drama..quality design and construction.
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I have a Condor in the Transit van. It's adjustable for wheel size. I've traveled many thousands of miles with a bike in a van. Unlike some, the Condor is totally solid.. never a movement. I think (hope) we could roll inverted and the bike would still be there. :smiley:
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Scha-wiiing!
Craigslist score on a Baxley. Done.
Thanks for the feedback lads.
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Attaboy. :smiley:
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got a bit of time in on you tube. In reply to whats red ^^, nope. The Baxley increasingly clamps the tire as it pivots (blue ^^). The condor is just a static cradle. That seals it in my view. Great feature
I have a Condor, and it works the same way the Baxley works. It's NOT just a static cradle - the weight of the bike works on the pivot to "increasingly clamp the tire as it pivots".
I can roll my 580 pound Stelvio or 650 pound Triumph into it, let go and walk away.
Just wanted to set the record straight.
Lannis
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I have a Condor, and it works the same way the Baxley works. It's NOT just a static cradle - the weight of the bike works on the pivot to "increasingly clamp the tire as it pivots".
I can roll my 580 pound Stelvio or 650 pound Triumph into it, let go and walk away.
Just wanted to set the record straight.
Lannis
How is this possible Lannis? Look at the cradle itself, the part that pivots 'over center', it is a single piece of stamped metal. There are no hinges or movable pieces. what clamps on the tire? That same portion of the Baxley is two separate pieces of metal which, as they pivot from 'un loaded' to 'loaded' get closer together, actually squeezing or pinching the tire. How does a one piece stamping accomplish this?
(https://u36950829.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36950829/condor.jpeg)
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How is this possible Lannis? Look at the cradle itself, the part that pivots 'over center', it is a single piece of stamped metal. There are no hinges or movable pieces. what clamps on the tire? That same portion of the Baxley is two separate pieces of metal which, as they pivot from 'un loaded' to 'loaded' get closer together, actually squeezing or pinching the tire. How does a one piece stamping accomplish this?
(https://u36950829.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36950829/condor.jpeg)
The "cradle" clamp is welded to the pivot pin (the pivot pin is adjustable to any of the six holes that you see there, to handle anything from little to big wheels). As you roll the bike onto the cradle, the cradle pivots around on the pin (in the direction of the bike's motion, about 90 degrees total) until the wheel is pressed up against the front, upright, fixed part in the front, and held against it by the pressure of the cradle from the back, supplied by the bike's weight.
Believe me, I use it every day. I've never used a Baxley, but it looks like it works exactly the same.
Lannis
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The "cradle" clamp is welded to the pivot pin (the pivot pin is adjustable to any of the six holes that you see there, to handle anything from little to big wheels). As you roll the bike onto the cradle, the crade pivots around on the pin until the wheel is pressed up against the front, upright, fixed part in the front, and held against it by the pressure of the cradle from the back, supplied by the bike's weight.
Believe me, I use it every day. I've never used a Baxley, but it looks like it works exactly the same.
Lannis
they do work the same, but, IN ADDITION to doing exactly what you describe, the Baxley cradle is a two piece mechanism which pinches the tire. STATIC was the wrong term, for sure. But the Baxley adds an additional holding function. Probably not tremendously significant, but it is additional clamp force on the tire/wheel. Not trying to be a dick, just since the particular differences are being called out, it's worth being precise. No doubt they are both excellent in quality and function.
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they do work the same, but, IN ADDITION to doing exactly what you describe, the Baxley cradle is a two piece mechanism which pinches the tire. STATIC was the wrong term, for sure. But the Baxley adds an additional holding function. Probably not tremendously significant, but it is additional clamp force on the tire/wheel. Not trying to be a dick, just since the particular differences are being called out, it's worth being precise. No doubt they are both excellent in quality and function.
No, I see what you're talking about. I'd only ever seen the Baxley Sport Chock, which does work exactly like the Condor.
The Baxley Trailer Chock has that extra "pinching" motion for the sides of the tire.
Like someone said, though, you almost can't push a bike sideways out of the Condor chock if you try .... and at $139 and free shipping, it meets that Guzzi buyer goal too!
Lannis
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Ah, now I've got to Lannis's post I understand. It's one of those threads the title of which puzzles us from Europe. I knew Condor as a pipe tobacco, and thought that Baxley would be too. I was looking forward to tales of when smoking a pipe was something everyone tried at some point.
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Ah, now I've got to Lannis's post I understand. It's one of those threads the title of which puzzles us from Europe. I knew Condor as a pipe tobacco, and thought that Baxley would be too. I was looking forward to tales of when smoking a pipe was something everyone tried at some point.
Lannis and Baxley aren't very common, but sometimes they come together ....
https://georgia.arrests.org/Arrests/Lannis_Baxley_7113435/
I'm going to have to get me one of those chocks now.
Lannis
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I have the ride into and step off Condor also. Very happy with it. I use to keep my Victory straight up in the garage and has a useful trailer lock in farkle if needed.
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Lannis and Baxley aren't very common, but sometimes they come together ....
https://georgia.arrests.org/Arrests/Lannis_Baxley_7113435/
I'm going to have to get me one of those chocks now.
Lannis
that's kinda funny.
:thumb:
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No, I see what you're talking about. I'd only ever seen the Baxley Sport Chock, which does work exactly like the Condor.
The Baxley Trailer Chock has that extra "pinching" motion for the sides of the tire.
Like someone said, though, you almost can't push a bike sideways out of the Condor chock if you try .... and at $139 and free shipping, it meets that Guzzi buyer goal too!
Lannis
The Baxley Sport does it as well.
check this video. Go ahead and jump to the 1:00 min mark.
https://youtu.be/I0ukZGXn9GU