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Title: NGC found bolt on my driveway NGC
Post by: fotoguzzi on August 22, 2017, 06:17:21 PM
this could be a belt guide pin?   
(http://thumb.ibb.co/c0HKP5/IMG_3122.jpg) (http://ibb.co/c0HKP5)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/kT0HBk/IMG_3125.jpg) (http://ibb.co/kT0HBk)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/dApcBk/IMG_3124.jpg) (http://ibb.co/dApcBk)
found on driveway just after mowing my lawn..it has anti seize on it. I can't see anywhere it could have come loose from tho.. just on a long shot maybe one of you can provide guidance.
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Post by: acogoff on August 22, 2017, 06:29:36 PM
     Looks like the jesus pin that holds the differential gears in place on a vehicle rear end.
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Post by: Chuck in Indiana on August 22, 2017, 06:32:10 PM
C'mon, Brad.. if it has antiseize on it, you put it on there.  :evil: :grin: It's probably one of those short term memory things.. don't ask me how I know..
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Post by: pehayes on August 22, 2017, 07:50:52 PM
Looks like a brake caliper bolt/pin.  Any brake work recently?  Presence of the mower may be a red herring.    What else has been parked/driven over that spot?  That lip also makes it look like it was supposed to have an o-ring on it below the threads.  Can you measure to determine if the head hex is SAE or Metric?

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
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Post by: lorazepam on August 22, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Looks like a henway detent.
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Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on August 22, 2017, 07:59:51 PM
 A bolt that attaches the mower spindle  to the deck.
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Post by: Lannis on August 22, 2017, 09:07:25 PM
Looks like a henway detent.

Not heavy enough ....
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Post by: lorazepam on August 22, 2017, 09:20:44 PM
Not heavy enough ....

Dikfer spindle?
Title: Re: NGC found bolt on my driveway NGC
Post by: fotoguzzi on August 22, 2017, 09:29:43 PM
this not my model but looks like item 54?
tried to see inside that area but can't with the body work on.
and the drawing is hard to visualize where they actually go.

 
(http://thumb.ibb.co/dTKBnQ/Screen_Shot_2017_08_22_at_9_25_06_PM.png) (http://ibb.co/dTKBnQ)


Lot of rain came, grass ready for another cut but I haven't had any time to tear into it.
Title: Re: NGC found bolt on my driveway NGC
Post by: Sheepdog on August 22, 2017, 10:49:46 PM
I'm with Patrick...that looks like a brake caliper pin.
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Post by: Noguzznoglory on August 23, 2017, 09:04:05 AM

looks like a brake caliper bolt/slide pin to me as well
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Post by: Wayne Orwig on August 23, 2017, 09:31:38 AM
Brake caliper pin.
The ridge around there is to hold the rubber 'accordion' boot to help seal the pin.
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Post by: Sasquatch Jim on August 23, 2017, 10:20:49 AM
I have no doubt, it is a thornorkin bolt.
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Post by: rodekyll on August 23, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
I haven't done a top ten list in a while, so here it is:

TOP TEN THINGS THAT IT IS:

10    idle mix screw for a donkey engine
09    PTO coupler grunge pin
08    skateboard axle
07    Shear pin off a 747 turbine
06    Trigger pivot pin from a punt gun (look it up)
05    what the "sacred screw" looks like with its vestments off
04    upgraded Stelvio fork pinch bolt (can't overtighten)
03    the reason why all those navy boats are running into other boats (give it BACK!)
02    throttle stop for one of those V8-powered trikes
01    Guitar truss adjuster

If you can't find an answer you like in the list, then there's something wrong with you.    :bike-037:
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Post by: fotoguzzi on August 23, 2017, 03:34:29 PM
I like #03


my Subaru shop says it looks like a Toyota part but it's not from my company Rav..I need to look under my Camry tonight.
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Post by: normzone on August 23, 2017, 03:50:02 PM
Your Toyota shop will tell you it looks like a Subaru part.

You know what the guys at the Harley shop are going to say.
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Post by: Dukedesmo on August 23, 2017, 04:00:44 PM
I agree it looks like a (car) brake caliper slide bolt. In use there would be a rubber gaiter (probably packed with anti-seize) over the threaded portion which would explain the grease.


I'd be carefully checking any car that was recently parked there.


(http://www.fixya.com/uploads/Images/98C6B31.jpg)
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Post by: Kiwi_Roy on August 23, 2017, 04:56:39 PM
It's not a Guzzi part, the measurement would be metric not inches.
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Post by: normzone on August 23, 2017, 05:40:56 PM
this could be a belt guide pin?   
(http://thumb.ibb.co/c0HKP5/IMG_3122.jpg) (http://ibb.co/c0HKP5)

found on driveway just after mowing my lawn..it has anti seize on it. I can't see anywhere it could have come loose from tho.. just on a long shot maybe one of you can provide guidance.

" It's not a Guzzi part, the measurement would be metric not inches. "

Yeah, but somebody with rudimentary skills could fix that in photoshop.
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Post by: nbags on August 23, 2017, 05:54:07 PM
caliper bolt go take a look at your car or who ever been in your driveway caliper ready to come out
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Post by: pehayes on August 23, 2017, 06:31:22 PM
caliper bolt go take a look at your car or who ever been in your driveway caliper ready to come out

If it is a caliper bolt, it is NOT one that holds the caliper into position so there shouldn't be any risk of caliper loss.  The mounting bolts would be far more robust.  However, such a bolt/pin would  be used to hold the brake pads into the caliper.  Absent that pin, the pads are going to launch out quite easily, followed by the pucks, and some quantity of brake fluid.  I don't think either condition is going to end well.

Meanwhile, looking back at the mower parts explosion diagram, this bolt/pin sure does look like that #54 piece.  Maybe  you're lucky and its just the mower part.  However, since the results could be catastrophic, I'd suggest your highest priority would be an inspection of any car or moto that had parked here recently.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
Title: Re: NGC found bolt on my driveway NGC
Post by: fotoguzzi on August 23, 2017, 09:38:45 PM
the bolt is too big to be from the mower since I can see the two front ones under the engine, same part # as 54, they are smaller.. and the mower works fine, just did the yard.
Checked my Subi and the similar pins are smaller on it so I took my work var (ToyotaRav) into the shop where they confirmed no missing parts.. and replaced two calipers and a rotor, one was sticking. $800. the company paid..
then came home and crawled under my Camry, all present and smaller too..

all the calipers I've looked at are covered in road grime and rust but the found pin is pretty clean and not rusty at all. so I've checked all the vehicles that I have and none are missing a pin.. I agree it's some kind of brake pin but can't figure out where it came from.. I AM PISSED!  this really bothers me that I can't find where it came from.. no one was around to be playing a joke on me...
bolt has a large L and smaller T on the head.. anyone know of a bolt registry where I can identify it?

should I try to find out if it's a metric thread?

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Guzzi/i-n62zDpF/0/810e1bf7/M/2017081918204942-IMG_3124-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Guzzi/i-n62zDpF/A)

did I mention this is gonna bother me for awhile..
Title: Re: NGC found bolt on my driveway NGC
Post by: rodekyll on August 23, 2017, 09:45:35 PM
I don't see where you gave the dimensions of the bolt.
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Post by: fotoguzzi on August 23, 2017, 09:55:26 PM
thread is metric (fine?) and it takes a 14mm hex on the head, about 3" long.
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Post by: pehayes on August 23, 2017, 11:45:54 PM
Has anyone else parked there?
What is that purple stain on the hex head?  That might be a clue to vehicle brand application.  And so clean.  Must be a new vehicle of some sort.  Friends?  Neighbors?  Delivery trucks?
I doubt you will have to worry about this for very long.   :shocked:

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
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Post by: Two Checks on August 24, 2017, 07:05:36 AM
When a major component falls off or a component fails you will know where it came from. I wouldnt worry about it....
It may have been lying in the street and a passing car shot it into your driveway.
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Post by: fotoguzzi on August 24, 2017, 08:09:15 AM
or, fell from the sky. I live near MSP but they don't usually fly over me.
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Post by: screamday on August 24, 2017, 08:47:28 AM
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/attachments.readmedia.com/files/63888/original/godsmustbecrazy.jpg?1420561161)
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Post by: Dofin on August 24, 2017, 08:55:19 AM
looks like the bolt that a tention spring hooks up to on your lawn mower.  Photoguzzi is on the right track with the drawing he posted.
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Post by: rodekyll on August 24, 2017, 12:35:56 PM
Could it be a belt tensioner from a drill press or table sander?
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Post by: Zoom Zoom on August 25, 2017, 05:14:53 AM
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/attachments.readmedia.com/files/63888/original/godsmustbecrazy.jpg?1420561161)

Ah yes, Brad can build a culture around that bolt.  :grin:

John Henry
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Post by: Lannis on August 25, 2017, 09:55:07 AM
Up till a very few years ago (and maybe now, I'll have to see), I had friends who would have dropped that in my driveway just to see what would happen.

You have to have a sense of humor when that happens to you.   The guy that we poured a little bit of gearbox oil under his gearbox a few years ago hasn't ridden with us since, so it can backfire.   

Even then, it's still funny .....

Lannis
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Post by: Huzo on August 25, 2017, 10:39:07 AM
I reckon you're brave registering your comment as NGC. As the owner of a Moto Guzzi, any time you see a stray bolt lying around, you'd be forgiven for wondering if it fell of the bike. But having said that, to me it looks a bit like something that acts on a detent plunger or similar.