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Hope any and all that way are prepared, evacuated or otherwise OK. Cat 4, not good. Cloudbase, got the shutters closed?
GliderJohn
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Hope any and all that way are prepared, evacuated or otherwise OK. Cat 4, not good. Cloudbase, got the shutters closed?
GliderJohn
Isn't he in Houston , the eye is way West of there , looks like Corpus is gonna get whacked .
Dusty
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Gloudbase is in the Huston area. How about the old MPH crew? Looks that this area may have 12-24 inches+ of rain. :shocked:
GliderJohn
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Galveston Dave??? You ok?
Sure hope you aren't on "Beach Patrol" this weekend.
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Looks like Port A and Rockport are getting hit.
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You are on our news tonight here in NZ. Stay safe guys, looks nasty.
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Looks pretty nasty on the radar this morning. I hope people make it through ok.
John Henry
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That's SO MUCH rain in a short period of time. I wish I had something better to say besides get the heck out for the next week.
Hoping for you all that it's manageable.
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Galveston Dave??? You ok?
Sure hope you aren't on "Beach Patrol" this weekend.
Dave said the timing sux , he had a surfing lesson planned for today :shocked: :laugh:
Dusty
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Doing okay, guys. Thanks for asking.
Intermittent light rain yesterday, heavier but still intermittent so far this morning. Things are draining well so far, but that will change as the ground saturates and the bayous fill.
Plenty of food and various beverages. Generator tested and ready.
John, our club is hosting the region 10 soaring competition. I think it's going to be a week before the ground is dry enough for glider ops.
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From Cloudbase:
John, our club is hosting the region 10 soaring competition. I think it's going to be a week before the ground is dry enough for glider ops.
May have to change that to submarine races. :shocked:
GliderJohn
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Still no info from the island.
Are the three "Mayday Tugs" the ferry boats that cross the channel? I know the only photos I saw were of the seawall being assembled at the ferry landing at Aransas Pass. As bad as Rockport was hit I am really concerned about Port Aransas.
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Gloudbase is in the Huston area. How about the old MPH crew? Looks that this area may have 12-24 inches+ of rain. :shocked:
GliderJohn
Mike lives out near Monaville, and they've been getting hit pretty hard. No firm word, but bad news travels fast.
We're all here for him if he needs anything.
Larry is okay.
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It looks like Port Aransas was hit so hard that they are still clearing the highway just to get into town. No doubt the ferry is still closed. The Coast Guard is surveying the area with helicopters. An RV park 3 miles south of the town was 100% destroyed. I hope no one in Port A tried to ride it out there. I've vacationed there all my life.
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Galveston Dave??? You ok?
Sure hope you aren't on "Beach Patrol" this weekend.
Worked Beach a bit this AM Sat.
Lull in rain, tourists streaming out of hotels like lemmings headed for the cliff. Beach is closed to swimming and wading. Guard st fire stations to assist with flood rescues if necessary. Supervisors and volunteers patrolling seawall.
Surviving so far I'll bring any left Spam front my emergency supplies to the fall rallies.
Dave
Galveston
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oh man spam!
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Has someone rescued LucyDad from Sugarland?
I watched the Weather Channel this AM and I-10 looks like a raging river. I-10 is a major truck route.
I feel bad for the folks in Houston but when you are covering an acre of land a day from building roads, houses etc even me with an 8th grade education know roofs and concrete don't absorb much water.
Tex
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Tex,
I agree that the Houston area is overbuilt, but....
This is a devestating and dangerous event for many in SE Texas. Most of the folks involved moved to area for work. Just average working Joes, trying to support their families. You know from personal experience Texas weather can be dangerous.
OK here so far, little water seeping into storage area otherwise high and dry.
A little sympathy please, even for Lucydad :rolleyes:
Dave
Galveston
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Still hanging in there.
These events bring out the best in most people, and the worst in a very few.
Neighbors helping neighbors, and strangers helping strangers.
And the (fortunaetly rare) a-hole who wants to sell bread for $10/loaf.
There are going to be plenty of 2018 Memorial Day babies.
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I'm a few hours from the coast, in Lockhart, and I've gotten 11in of rain in the backyard gauge between yesterday morning and today. Crazy high winds for a while yesterday, lots of downed trees and power outages in town. Somehow my little acre is completely unscathed by the wind.
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NWS estimates 650 billion gallons of water have fallen on the greater Houston region. More to come.
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The most telling statistic so far:
Rain received so far in Houston: 12 inches
Rain STILL to come: 18-24 inches
Guzzis and Family are still high and dry so far...everything draining well so far, let's hope it continues that way for the next 3-4 days.
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It might be good to remember the storm actually hit down near Aransas Pass and Port Lavaca .
Houston may be flooding , but the real damage was done way West of there .
Dusty
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It might be good to remember the storm actually hit down near Aransas Pass and Port Lavaca .
Houston may be flooding , but the real damage was done way West of there .
Dusty
That's cold, Dusty. I wouldn't want to be the one to tell the people who've lost everything that they didn't suffer real damage.
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The most telling statistic so far:
Rain received so far in Houston: 12 inches
Rain STILL to come: 18-24 inches
Guzzis and Family are still high and dry so far...everything draining well so far, let's hope it continues that way for the next 3-4 days.
Happy to hear that. I talked to family last nite down that way and they seem to be doing well enough. Even in San Antonio/Austin have had a share of wet w/ more to come.
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That's cold, Dusty. I wouldn't want to be the one to tell the people who've lost everything that they didn't suffer real damage.
Yeah , but almost all of those folks have insurance , Houston always gets all of the attention in South Texas , just like Dallas gets all of the attention in North Texas , almost as if the rest of the state doesn't exist . That was my point . The brunt of the storm missed Houston by a long way .
Dusty
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Tex,
I agree that the Houston area is overbuilt, but....
This is a devestating and dangerous event for many in SE Texas. Most of the folks involved moved to area for work. Just average working Joes, trying to support their families. You know from personal experience Texas weather can be dangerous.
OK here so far, little water seeping into storage area otherwise high and dry.
A little sympathy please, even for Lucydad :rolleyes:
Dave
Galveston
Dave,
I have the utmost sympathy for all in the greater Houston area. LucyDad lives in Sugar Land, an area SW of Houston that was hit very hard. I hope he is OK.
People that are not familiar with Houston do not know that it is a fast growing area, hence all the new roads and homes.
I hope someone hears from Mike Haven as he lives north of Monaville 44 miles from the old shop.
I went thru the flood at the National in Money Creek. I wouldn't wish flooding on my worst enemy.
Tex
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I saw a post from Mike Haven on FB that he was at Bonneville/Las Vegas running some high speed bikes. Hope that his home and shop in Katy are OK.
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It might be good to remember the storm actually hit down near Aransas Pass and Port Lavaca .
Houston may be flooding , but the real damage was done way West of there .
Dusty
It took most of the day yesterday for the crews to even get into Port Aransas. Power lines, boats and debris were blocking hwy 361 for 20 miles south of the city. The only other route to the island is by the ferry.
I hope that the worst is over but the flooding is very unpredictable when the water gets higher than experienced before.
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some pics https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/27/1693658/-Greater-Houston-region-undergoing-catastrophic-flooding-event (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/27/1693658/-Greater-Houston-region-undergoing-catastrophic-flooding-event)
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It's a weather event that is going to hit Texas and Louisiana and maybe other states as well, and San Antonio, Austin too and all towns in between, are we now going to get into an argument of who's better off than others and therefore those in Houston shouldn't bother to post up. Ok...I get it now.
So Businesses in Aransas don't have insurance, but homeowners in Houston do...really? That's the implication?
Contrary to the "out of state" attitude, the people in the state are trying to help each other, neighbor by neighbor.
Paul , I have no idea how we got from my concern over the folks in Aransas Pass and Port Lavaca to the idea that I was dismissing the problem in Houston . Look , I lived in SE Texas for years and still have friends down there , and have been in Houston when it more resembled a lake than a
city , and who is it that made sure you guys were OK ? Jeez-O-Pete folks , I get it , the flooding is horrible , maybe the worst in the History of Houston , that doesn't change the fact that the eye missed Houston by a country mile . Anyway stay safe .
Dusty
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Two different effects. Rockport and area suffered the effects of wind and tidal surge. Not much media coverage because access to area restricted to first responders. Residents who did not leave are being evacuated now. Residents who evacuated will not be allowed back till officials deem it is safe. Homes, businesses and lives lost.
Houston feeling effects of historic rainfall, very little wind or storm surge. Feet of rain in such a short time has all the bayous (streams) out of banks, highway systems flooded. Drainage system taxed. Many homes and businesses underwater. Water rescues underway as folks trapped on roofs etc.
Same storm different effects in different areas. Bottom line everyone was/is being hit very hard.
Touched by the way neighbors and strangers are helping each other. Many private individuals and volunteer organizations responding to help.
I saw it during hurricane Ike. Texans are a proud, caring and resorceful people.
Myself and my family and my Guzzi are fine. All the rain is a minor inconvenience, especially in light of what is happening elsewhere.
Religious content please skip if you find it offensive.
If you are the praying kind, your prays would be appreciated.
God bless Texas and God bless my Texas brethren who are suffering.
Dave
Galveston
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Dave, glad you're OK. There have been folks that have flooded in Galveston. Stay on high ground.
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I think it's fair to say that it's a monumental mess down that way, no matter how you draw the lines. It's going to get worse in the immediate area immediately, and it's going to get worse in places that are unaffected now. My sympathy and best wishes for everyone in the danger zone.
I was at Money Creek, too (wearing the t-shirt today). That devastation was the residual effect of Katrina, and was a loooong way north of NO. The rain and t-storms chased us up MN and across the Dakotas at a speed we could keep up with, but not outrun. The entire middle third of the continent got hammered. This one could be as bad.
Stay afloat, folks. We're pulling for you!
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Turnip farmer, are you and Beaver OK? Fox news makes it look like you might not be. This storm covers such a big area it's mind blowing according to the TV coverage and it's not over yet. They're talking about recovery being in years, not months. I know it all depends how the water flows and how high your place is, but............ :undecided: If you still have power you're luckier than many.
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Looks like Port A and Rockport are getting hit.
I have a sister in Rockport. Roof gone, siding gone, two sailboats gone.......
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24.1 inches of rain in the last 48 hours. Annual average rainfall is 47 inches.
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Talked to Dan Wolfe he's high and dry in Walker County.
Dave
Galveston
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See where Bay City is being evacuated . Dog what a mess , stay safe folks .
Dusty
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Watching the news here saying boats are the new mode of transport- looks pretty grim for sure.
Dusty is that dyslexic agnostic I heard about back in school ??
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Houston Intergalactic Airport closed at least until noon Thursday.
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Check in fellas .
Dusty
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Very sad what is happening here. Much flooding and damage, yet more rain coming the next few days. Me and mine are fine, feel like the Jews in Egypt during the Passover while watching the news. Texted Mike H. yesterday, he said his home was OK at that time.
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Still good. Light eind/rain tonight. Storm headed east albeit too slow in my opinion. Conditions should slowly slowly improve over the area.
Dave
Galveston
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Paul,
Beaver asking about LD. Shoot him a text please.
Dave
Galveston
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Still dry. Looks as though we'll begin to catch a break later today.
My grandniece and her family had to evacuate last night. They're about six miles south of me. All the roads leading up to my place were impassable.
They were lucky enough to find the last room at a local hotel.
It's going to be a long recovery.
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From another list..
News today said that one river, with a flood level of 26 feet, is now at 53 feet. Jeebus.
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We're getting our second day of steady rain here in the New Orleans area, so I'm hoping the worst is over for Houston. Best to all our neighbors to the west...
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Paul,
Beaver asking about LD. Shoot him a text please.
Dave
Galveston
He's alive and fine, but don't expect him to join you for a rally or ride anytime soon. :)
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He's alive and fine, but don't expect him to join you for a rally or ride anytime soon. :)
Please send him another text and let him know his fellow Guzzi riders DO care about him.
Tex
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Hey -- Even I liked LD, and except for Slicer, I don't like anyone. Never have.
Tex, are you expecting to get "hosed", too? I'm not seeing any rain in your forecast . . . . but I can bring a boat instead of the trike if you need it.
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Hey -- Even I liked LD, and except for Slicer, I don't like anyone. Never have.
Tex, are you expecting to get "hosed", too? I'm not seeing any rain in your forecast . . . . but I can bring a boat instead of the trike if you need it.
The rain is going to miss us.
I'm trying to find who is putting Miracle Grow on my grass as I have to mow every 5 days. Slicer said he'd get 'em for me.
Tex
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I got an order for an FX Smith's Sons cigar sampler from a guy in Dickenson Texas three days ago. Dickenson's about half way from Houston towards Galveston. Packed the sampler up ready to mail.... But then the very next day, that story hit the news about this gaggle of old gals in a nursing home about to float off their wheelchairs ... in Dickenson TX. So, obviously, I still have the cigar package in hand.
But just for kix I've been keeping an eye on Dickenson news. Yesterday was mandatory evac. Today was vids of boat rescues and such. Here's the remarkable thing tho: So many people still have internet! You see vids of people being pulled out of second floor windows cause they were able to text for help. Like the nursing home gals ... one facebooked her daughter in Florida who put the word out, then rescuers waded in and fetched them out. One shot I see water halfway up the light pole, but the stoplights are still flashing. How they keeping up power? Mystery. Their web page is up. Galveston news page is up. Big news is their Dickenson Fighting Gators football games are cancelled. Bummer. Newspaper apologizes that delivery may be spotty. Subscriber Curtiss Brown misses his comics and crypto quotes. Subscriber Brian Goldman bitches: "Considering that two days ago you threw the paper in my flower garden rather than on my porch and yesterday you did the same thing and didn't even double bag it so that it was soaked I wouldn't expect today to be any better." Get a grip, Bri. Officer Steve Perez drowned. Someone asks what the fishing will be like when this subsides.
Pretty weird following the news from one obscure little town like this, rather than the quick "hit the high points" approach you get from news.
Guys gonna get one helluva cigar bomb from me, when ir if he can get back home and the mail can run.
Weird scene.
These guys are gonna be just fine tho:
(http://firewaterstormpros.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Dickinson-Water-Damage-Restoration.jpg)
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Please send him another text and let him know his fellow Guzzi riders DO care about him.
Tex
At the risk of stirring the pot:
I'm sure he'd love to hear from you Tex...I did convey in this morning's text that the Guzzi family was concerned about his welfare and checked in to make sure he was fine, which he says he is. Not sure there's much more to be gained at this point, he really doesn't want to engage here anyway. Quite frankly, I only reached out to him because Dave and Beaver are such sweet people, I can't deny them their request.
Truth be told LD has rebuffed all of us and myself so many times on more than a dozen invitations to ride here that I really don't think he gives a hoot what we do and he's never offered to help anyone here on this board do anything. He asked for so much advice for his own projects on so many topics and took none of it, whether it be moto or car related or any other subject.
Please don't ask me to play secretary here any further and relay any more messages to LD...I'm more concerned with helping others in the neighborhood, delivering donations and supplies and making sure my own family, my work teams and their families and my neighbors and friends are fine, I don't really have time to worry about LD.
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Hi Paul,
just got back from the "Old Country" and read this thread. Don't know many Guzzi riders in TX, but glad you and yours, Ken H, Georgeann and their families, Dave and his are doing OK. I hope the worst is over.
Ciao,
Nick
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Mille grazie Nick! Look forward to hearing about it at the GRIT rally...assuming we can make it! Ci vediamo pronto!
There are about 10 other riders I know about here in Houston and nearby including Austin, Lockhart and San Antonio. So far, everyone I've been in touch with is OK...although some are now at risk of flooding near the Brazos river.
I'm thinking that the guys in Lockhart really lucked out...they can always go to Black's for some good BBQ!
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Mille grazie Nick! Look forward to hearing about it at the GRIT rally...assuming we can make it! Ci vediamo pronto!
There are about 10 other riders I know about here in Houston and nearby including Austin, Lockhart and San Antonio. So far, everyone I've been in touch with is OK...although some are now at risk of flooding near the Brazos river.
I'm thinking that the guys in Lockhart really lucked out...they can always go to Black's for some good BBQ!
It's less than two miles from the house! Sometimes we even ride our bicycles over there.
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Now you're just being cruel! I can taste it from here!
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Now you're just being cruel! I can taste it from here!
It actually didn't take long to get burnt out on bbq. Luckily, this little town has seen a healthy migration of younger folk from Austin, most of whom have opened businesses. We now have a coffee shop, a truly fantastic pizza shop and bar, a burger and wing place, a more upscale bistro, and supposedly are getting a brewery in town soon. Of course the county realizes how well things are going, and tries to raise the property taxes accordingly.
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He's alive and fine, but don't expect him to join you for a rally or ride anytime soon. :)
At least he's OK.
Dave
Galveston
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Hi Paul,
just got back from the "Old Country" and read this thread. Don't know many Guzzi riders in TX, but glad you and yours, Ken H, Georgeann and their families, Dave and his are doing OK. I hope the worst is over.
Ciao,
Nick
Think the worst may be over. Actually saw some blue sky just now.
Welcome home.
Dave
Galveston
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Rain is moving East to LA. now, thank goodness. Might need to get a bike out for a look around tomorrow. Limited due to high water over the road in just about any direction I choose.
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Jim...are you near Crosby? Any news on the Ammonia Plant they evacuated around...potential explosion due to lack of cooling plants...
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-weather/hurricaneharvey/article/Arkema-chemical-plant-faces-explosion-risk-after-12159448.php
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Dunno if they're at risk but it would be good to know if they're OK?
Pete
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Mike reports he's fi
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I take it that was 'Fine'?
Ace! :thumb:
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Riding the old BSA up US250 last month through West Virginia, through the towns of Mannington and Metz and Littleton to Hundred ... there had just been a flood from a line of thunderstorms along Pyle's Fork and Fish Creek that flooded all those towns for 30 miles along there. The National Guard was still in there cutting out trees and trying to haul junk away.
The thing I noticed was that for miles, there were piles of soaked furniture piled along the shoulder of the road for pickup, hundreds and hundreds of them. Whole housefuls of furniture that has to be dumped ... and then replaced.
This was in a sparsely populated area where maybe 800 people had water up in their houses. It's just hard to imagine multiplying that by a factor of 2000 or so, and trying to see HOW they are going to haul and dump all that stuff somewhere, and HOW is everyone going to replace all that? Insurance won't do everything - so many folks are underinsured.
Those of us who are still dry should find an efficient charity who can get gift cards into people's hands so they can get back on their feet after all this ...
Lannis
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Buy a nice little something for your lady, show your love for Texas (even if it's just sorta "like") and help at the same time.
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Yes Sir fine.
Larry also as are most of the Houston riders on the board.
Lindale Tex and Beaver good.
Most reported on Southeast Texas threads.
Rain has stopped
Much of Houston and surrounding area still flooded
Will be a long and expensive recovery.
Dave
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Looks like Port Arthur is flooded now . Any Guzzista in P.A. ? How is everyone else ?
Dusty
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Check in fellas .
How about Mattress Mac ? Some amazing things happening in the area .
Dusty
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Lake Charles was lucky. We only got 10 inches of rain over 3 days with very minor flooding. 30 miles away in Beaumont/Port Arthur they had extensive flooding.
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Check in fellas .
How about Mattress Mac ? Some amazing things happening in the area .
Dusty
Mac is a good guy. I only do one group ride a year. It's the Nun Run, organized by a group of sisters who run some health clinics in Houston. It's from Houston to Galveston or San Leon. Mac is always the master of ceremonies, and he matches whatever is collected by the riders.
He may be a big mouth on his ads, but he's a quiet and prolific philanthropist in his personal life.
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Mac is a good guy. I only do one group ride a year. It's the Nun Run, organized by a group of sisters who run some health clinics in Houston. It's from Houston to Galveston or San Leon. Mac is always the master of ceremonies, and he matches whatever is collected by the riders.
He may be a big mouth on his ads, but he's a quiet and prolific philanthropist in his personal life.
He sells mattresses I assume ?
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He sells mattresses I assume ?
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He owns a high end furniture store , the images of folks displaced by the flood sitting on $2,000.00 sofas is just so cool .
Dusty
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He sells mattresses I assume ?
I went to High School with Mac, Jim Macinvale. Jim came from a prominent family in Dallas. Family fell on hard times, Jim moved to north of Houston bought an old run down house and started selling furniture. Most definitely not high end. One old house, the two then connected the two. Went on to build a multi-million dollar business. Always giving back to the community from the biginning. Literally has given millions of dollars in cash and merchandise. Heck of a guy.
Dave
Galveston
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One more thing about Mac. A bunch of years ago, one of his employees needed a liver transplant, and the insurance wouldn't cover. Mac paid for it out of pocket.
He's a mensch.
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One more thing about Mac. A bunch of years ago, one of his employees needed a liver transplant, and the insurance wouldn't cover. Mac paid for it out of pocket.
He's a mensch.
He sounds like a nice guy, tell him I'm desperate for a new Roamer but being on a pension and having a wife I can't afford it.
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He sounds like a nice guy, tell him I'm desperate for a new Roamer but being on a pension and having a wife I can't afford it.
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Let's get the flood victims fed and housed. Then we'll worry about your Roamer.
Dave
Galveston
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Let's get the flood victims fed and housed. Then we'll worry about your Roamer.
Dave
Galveston
Indeed - not wishing to take anything away from them or the seriousness of the situation over there.
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This calamity is far from being over. Just now 100 miles south of Houston a town is being evacuated because flood waters from the Houston area are draining to their area. Now this town's residences are new victims of this fiasco. :copcar: :boxing:
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Water is still rising in some Houston neighborhoods. Water is being slowly released from several dams to prevent the dams breaching. Some homes in these areas will remain flooded for 2 weeks or more. Mayor has called mandatory evacuations in these areas. Powe will be cut to encourage people to leave.
Chemical plant East of Houston on fire prompting evacuations in Cosby.
Beaumont on LA border is flooded and has lost water supply. I-10 into LA closed.
Further South, more flooding and evacuations in area hardest hit by wind along coast. Rivers are cresting at historic levels.
Galveston beaches may close due to bacteria and pollution washed down into Galveston Bay then into the Gulf.
Feeling fortunate to escape nearly unscathed.
God Bless Texas and my fellow Texans as they suffer through this disaster.
Dave
Galveston
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At least they can catch fish in their living rooms.
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When we flood a village in Alaska, it just goes away -- nothing to recover. They rebuild on higher ground. In that part of Texas, there is no higher ground, really -- just a gentle slope to the sea. So there's no place "else" to rebuild. It's a quandary, and it's going to be worse for a lot of folks before it gets better -- the water keeps flowing until it's gone. That's going to impact a lot of people on the downhill slope. It's a millennial-grade disaster, for sure, and my heart goes out to them. If I was local, I'd try to help. But a hurricane is an act of nature. I don't see how it can be characterized as a "fiasco".