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Title: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: Gliderjohn on September 17, 2017, 07:44:54 AM
https://enginessociety.com/10-things-learned-virginia-tech-bike-crash-study/
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: Sheepdog on September 17, 2017, 08:08:03 AM
Lots of familiar advice in this report. I'd like to add that visually controlling your immediate area, increasing following distances, and care when braking on dissimilar road surfaces (like concrete to asphalt or gravel) are also effective tactics to keep you upright.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: Lannis on September 17, 2017, 08:28:38 AM
And from our own experience in observing our surroundings, there's another rider factor besides aggressiveness, inattention, and inexperience that contributes to crashes, and that's drunk riders.

Of course, you couldn't include them in a test like this, but out on the road, it's been the cause of a lot of crashes ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: toolittletime on September 17, 2017, 08:59:13 AM
Gliderjohn,
Thanks for posting this here. I read over this a few months ago, and was particularly interested in the number of rear end crashes. Much more up to date analysis than the Hurt Report, published in the early 80's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_findings_in_the_Hurt_Report (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_findings_in_the_Hurt_Report)
I have made sure and mention this to every class this summer, in my part time job with MSF.

Tim
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: Gliderjohn on September 17, 2017, 10:30:58 AM
Over the years in Wichita there have been quite a few fatal bike wrecks from running into the vehicle ahead. In most cases excessive speed was cited as the cause. I remember one in particular where both the rider and girl friend passenger were killed on a 30mph one way street. They hit the rear of a box truck at an estimated speed of 85mph! Apparently it is much easier to learn to go fast than to stop fast.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: John A on September 17, 2017, 12:38:03 PM
The last time I crashed, it was my own fault. I almost ran into the car in front of me when the car in front of them suddenly hit the brakes for no apparent reason . I did not realize the city interstate freeway was as slippery as it was and lost the front and back traction on the oily surface.Slid on the left side to within an inch of the bumper. Broke a mirror and a turn signal. That was over ten years ago so hopefully I've learned to increase my following distance and I do practice panic stops. I am scared of getting creamed from behind..
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: Roebling3 on September 18, 2017, 04:32:13 PM
Beware dumb asses are everywhere.
I've been hit from behind 4 times. In one year twice and backed into by a fool that ran the light, saw a cop, and backed up to clear the cross walk. Having had 3 accidents in less that 6 months. I was invited to the NJ driver improvement program. They had a drivers compartment with video, to check risk perception and reflexes. Had brakes, TS, steering wheel. Test results were 1 wrong on the former. Aced the video thing.
They interviewed me. I was told my reflexes were too fast!*% wtf, - - - . I should try tapping my brakes b4 stopping, to warn those following me. 
Stopping in a car @ a stop sign b4 entering I-95N, near New London, CT. I was hit from behind by one of those, now quite old Sporty Volvo coupes. The guy leapt out of his car screaming and cussing at me; 'You're not supposed to stop here'.  R3~   
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: tris on September 19, 2017, 05:19:57 AM
Gliderjohn,
Thanks for posting this here. I read over this a few months ago, and was particularly interested in the number of rear end crashes. Much more up to date analysis than the Hurt Report, published in the early 80's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_findings_in_the_Hurt_Report (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_findings_in_the_Hurt_Report)
I have made sure and mention this to every class this summer, in my part time job with MSF.

Tim

Is it just me or does anyone else find it ironic that its called the Hurt Report

Good info though that I shall read more fully as its new to me over here on the UK
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: Wayne Orwig on September 19, 2017, 10:14:10 AM
Is it just me or does anyone else find it ironic that its called the Hurt Report

Good info though that I shall read more fully as its new to me over here on the UK

The professor that did the study was named H. Hurt.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: Shorty on September 20, 2017, 12:05:22 AM
It's pretty much a given: If I go arse over monkeys, there will be witnesses.... :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Virginia Tech motorcycle crash study
Post by: tris on September 20, 2017, 12:14:48 AM
The professor that did the study was named H. Hurt.

I appreciate that Wayne and that was the irony to my mind