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Title: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: Bonaventure on September 18, 2017, 09:09:18 PM
Are they worth the upgrade from the OEM bulbs?  Not looking to do LED's just a better set of 55/60 H4 Halogens.  I like that OSRAM is rough service built for motorcycle vibrations. 

Looks like the specific OSRAM part for the Stelvio is 64193NB  ( https://am-application.osram.info/en )
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: Mr Pootle on September 19, 2017, 06:23:16 AM
I've fitted them in my car. They don't make a great deal of difference because the reflector in a Volvo (yes, I am very old) headlight is lousy.
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: Sheepdog on September 19, 2017, 07:12:35 AM
I tried one of the bright Sylvania H4 bulbs. It was indeed brighter, but burned out quicker than I thought it would...about 10 months. The standard bulb lasted 3 years...
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: bad Chad on September 19, 2017, 08:47:56 AM
I had a similar experience with the brighter Sylvainya.
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: John A on September 19, 2017, 09:30:51 AM
I try to use an H4 labeled " heavy duty" I get way more life out of them, brand doesn't seem to matter
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: Wayne Orwig on September 19, 2017, 10:08:51 AM
Are they worth the upgrade from the OEM bulbs?  Not looking to do LED's just a better set of 55/60 H4 Halogens.  I like that OSRAM is rough service built for motorcycle vibrations. 

I could not find anything about that bulb online. Their web site doesn't appear to let you compare products.

Many of the so called brighter incandescent bulbs, work by designing the filament so that it runs at a higher temperature. Still the same wattage, but the wire is hotter. That means, yes you get a bit more light. And it will also likely fail sooner. It may or may not be worth it. For sure, carry a spare bulb.

We are now into the same thing for home lighting. Recent laws demand more efficient lights. 60 watts or light from a 40 watt bulb type of thing. Those have thinner filaments and you will need to replace your home lights much more often.


Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: tris on September 19, 2017, 10:20:26 AM
I fitted the Phillips equivalent (https://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/37168030/x-tremevision-car-headlight-bulb) on my Breva 1100 for the dip beam

First time I rode it in the dark & rain it scared the hell out of me as I couldn't pick up the kerb

Fitting the Phillips bulb transformed it

Been on the bike for a year or so now, but as others have said they are reputed to have a shorter life

I found a comparison somewhere for cars and if I can remember where I'll post it here

Tris

Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: Bonaventure on September 19, 2017, 12:09:48 PM
I could not find anything about that bulb online. Their web site doesn't appear to let you compare products.

Many of the so called brighter incandescent bulbs, work by designing the filament so that it runs at a higher temperature. Still the same wattage, but the wire is hotter. That means, yes you get a bit more light. And it will also likely fail sooner. It may or may not be worth it. For sure, carry a spare bulb.

We are now into the same thing for home lighting. Recent laws demand more efficient lights. 60 watts or light from a 40 watt bulb type of thing. Those have thinner filaments and you will need to replace your home lights much more often.

Yeah, I don't get it because it's the recommended bulb when Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX is selected in their Product Finder applet.  Yet their motorcycle applications page does not include it. 
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: rbm on September 19, 2017, 03:17:43 PM
I swapped out my Osram H4s with Philips X-Treme Power H4 bulbs on my BMW K100.  The difference was minor.  The greatest change in intensity and coverage came about when I added an Eastern Beaver relay kit to the headlight circuit.  The extra current handling capability of the relay wiring was more beneficial.
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: v7john on September 19, 2017, 04:09:30 PM
I use Osram Nightbreaker bulbs in both my old bikes and they are definitely better than the "standard" bulbs I had before. I also use relays to switch the main and dip beam to get as many volts to those bulbs as possible. Output is more than good enough for our unlit Welsh country roads. I also ride with lights on during the day and they produce a good bright white light. I don't do the mileages many of you folks do but the bulbs have lasted 3 years so far. I'm prepared to accept short bulb life given the performance and, of course, always carry a spare.
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: Psychopasta on September 19, 2017, 04:34:04 PM
There's also this: https://www.fasteddysports.com/products-page/?product_id=1218

I've not used it myself, but I know the guy who runs the site and he reckons they are good.

- P
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: Sheepdog on September 19, 2017, 04:48:58 PM
I use an HD bulb for the headlight and switch on the spots if I need more light...
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: Lannis on September 20, 2017, 10:52:10 AM
I could not find anything about that bulb online. Their web site doesn't appear to let you compare products.

Many of the so called brighter incandescent bulbs, work by designing the filament so that it runs at a higher temperature. Still the same wattage, but the wire is hotter. That means, yes you get a bit more light. And it will also likely fail sooner. It may or may not be worth it. For sure, carry a spare bulb.



The plastic reflectors on the Stelvio are marginal even for the stock bulbs.   I suspect that if you pump more heat into there, you're going to melt the reflectors faster .... why I'm heading to lower temperature LEDs ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Anyone Using OSRAM Night Breaker H4 Bulbs?
Post by: Kjon on September 20, 2017, 11:19:34 AM
I use a Night Breaker (H3) on my Cali 1400 low beam. I wouldn’t say it was significantly brighter than the original but the light is much ‘cooler/whiter’ & a definite improvement. It’s been there about 2 years/ 10k miles with no problems.

Jon