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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: dcardo021 on October 14, 2017, 02:16:06 AM
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Got hit tonight buy a car blowing an intersection. Almost came to a stop before he hit us. Had my 10 year old daughter on the back. Luckily we were ATTAGAT. No injuries except some serious whip lash. Jackass ran off. We will find him....Nissan Sentra older model...maroon color....Good bye to my V9[emoji21](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171014/9eebe78e77e5ef863fd79ae930ac3bec.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171014/f49601c5ee4b2a8c58d6b11dc4e6dd03.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171014/0c8c2727cbf422f058d48da2c450d52f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171014/8199f8615f1a71ea53a4c1d703b40a84.jpg)
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Awfully glad that the damage - as extensive as it was - was mostly limited to the bike. Could easily have been so much worse!
One thing we all probably agree on is that hit-and-run perpetrators are right there with the lowest of the low. An outright attempt to avoid any semblance of responsibility - fortunately, modern forensics, record keeping and intelligence gathering makes the likelihood of them getting away a lot lower than in the past. Best wishes for a quick and full recovery, and I hope your local police are good at their jobs...
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The great thing is both of you are still alive and unmaimed.
Apart from that public flogging should be manditory for douche bags who hit and run.
Post photos of the new bike.
Cheers
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I was going to unleash a torrent of invective and blasphemy but knowing the demographic I'll just say I hope they catch the bastard and nail his balls to a plank.
Running is a ****'s act. Knowing you'd hit a bike with a kid on board means there should be a really special place for youse......
Oh, and unless they were totally off their face they would know. F*** this asshole!
Pete
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I was going to unleash a torrent of invective and blasphemy but knowing the demographic I'll just say I hope they catch the bastard and nail his balls to a plank.
Running is a ****'s act. Knowing you'd hit a bike with a kid on board means there should be a really special place for youse......
Oh, and unless they were totally off their face they would know. F*** this asshole!
Pete
^^^ this
And most importantly thank God you guys are ok.
Hopefully your insurance is good and you can get shopping!!! (Gotta look for the silver lining).
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any chance there were traffic cameras? security cameras for business or residential use in the area? a traffic camera before that intersection or in the direction the AH was fleeing towards? good no one was hurt!
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any chance there were traffic cameras? security cameras for business or residential use in the area? a traffic camera before that intersection or in the direction the AH was fleeing towards? good no one was hurt!
Thank you all for your thoughts and support, we know make model and approximate year and color. Happened in front of a bank so we are hoping the cameras there give us something. Very blessed that my daughter and I were just bumped up and bruised.
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I'm with what Pete said except he was more polite, glad you both are ok.
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Hope you catch this person. This is why we have leaving the scene laws. Too many people do it. If enough information is available they may turn themselves in once they sober up and rid their car of all the drug paraphernalia. You need to get the news involved because the cars should have damage and getting the word out is very important.
Glad you and your daughter are relatively OK. Bikes can be replaced.
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SCARY! Glad you both are (mostly) unharmed. Karma's a B*+(# (and so are papa/mama bears)!!!
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Holy shite! Looking at the damage to the bike you are both lucky you did not have a greater degree on injuries. ATGATT pays off. Really happy to hear you and your daughter are OK.
If that had happened to me with my young child it would be very difficult to not hunt down the hit and run SOB and make sure he ended up next to Jimmy Hoffa.
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No advice or invective , simply very glad you are both alright . Let's hope they catch the driver .
Dusty
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Glad you're both relatively OK. Where did it happen?
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Glad you're both relatively OK. Where did it happen?
It happened in El Paso, Texas. Sad thing is earlier that evening I had gone to a wake of a very young man who was killed by a hit and run driver who they still have not caught. Has been a high incident of bike deaths here in the last 6 months. But by the grace of God, go I. Feeling tons of guilt for having daughter on the back.
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Glad to hear your daughter and you are ok. I used to ride my daughter to school on an old Vespa. Fortunately we were not victims of a hit and run a33hat, but she did burn her ankle on the exhaust one time. It healed quickly.
Don't blame yourself, you did everything right getting ATTGAT on your girl. Likely your actions saved both of you. Could of been hit in a car by a hit and run as well... no guarantees in life but thankfully you are both well.
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It happened in El Paso, Texas. Sad thing is earlier that evening I had gone to a wake of a very young man who was killed by a hit and run driver who they still have not caught. Has been a high incident of bike deaths here in the last 6 months. But by the grace of God, go I. Feeling tons of guilt for having daughter on the back.
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Been to El Paso several times by bike. The only city I know of that you have to go through a border check point to leave.
Did you see enough of the plate to know it is a Texas plate?
Now that you say where it happened, I doubt the perpetrator will be found.
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hope they get the SOB.
Best to you and your daughter for pain-free recovery.
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what does ATTAGAT mean?
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what does ATTAGAT mean?
All The Tough A$$ed Gear At Times.
Wearing really protective stuff but not on really hot days.
Lannis
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All The Tough A$$ed Gear At Times.
Wearing really protective stuff but not on really hot days.
Lannis
wow! I must have been born 200 years too late :wink:
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When they catch the Perp, he should be riding a long vertical pole Ala Vlad Teppes
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wow! I must have been born 200 years too late :wink:
I think about how we rode in the late 60's and 70's with very minimal protection protection. T-shirts, Jean jackets, combat boots, gloves if cold. But bikes were slower but handled much worse. Stopping power...joke!
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That stinks. Glad you're both ok!
In this day and age, it is much more likely the person will get caught. I'm guessing they know that as well. There may have been alcohol involved and that is why they ran. Like others said, I hope they catch the bastid. Lowest of the low in my book.
John Henry
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^^^ this
Hopefully your insurance is good and you can get shopping!!! (Gotta look for the silver lining).
Glad you are OK. I assume that those hit and run driver's have a multitude of issues for why they ran, one of them being lack of insurance.
In this particular case, does the insurance company regard this as uninsured motorist or does it really matter other than the deductible?
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I think about how we rode in the late 60's and 70's with very minimal protection protection. T-shirts, Jean jackets, combat boots, gloves if cold. But bikes were slower but handled much worse. Stopping power...joke!
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I agree, but I was referring to the letters and their meaning. I'm not a tweeter. that's for the birds :grin:
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I think about how we rode in the late 60's and 70's with very minimal protection protection. T-shirts, Jean jackets, combat boots, gloves if cold. But bikes were slower but handled much worse. Stopping power...joke!
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I didn't start on the street until the early 80s, but being in Daytona Beach, FL the usual gear on the 30 mph roads to the beach was flip flops, bathing shorts, and beanie helmet (required back then). Sure glad I never went down geared up that way. I bought a plastic full face helmet from Kmart for the wintertime. Accidently dropped it off a loading dock and it cracked in half at the seam.
I see people today riding in shorts and sandals, but the roads are so much more crowded than they were back then.
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I agree, but I was referring to the letters and their meaning. I'm not a tweeter. that's for the birds :grin:
IJMTUOTS, you know.
(I Just Made That Up On The Spot). I'm not a tweeter or texter myself. Even when I had a texting device at work, I never used abbreviations ... Hi hw RU, hw bout c a film TOM if u cn?
Bet that's what the hit and run scrote was doing ...
Lannis
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IJMTUOTS, you know.
(I Just Made That Up On The Spot). I'm not a tweeter or texter myself. Even when I had a texting device at work, I never used abbreviations ... Hi hw RU, hw bout c a film TOM if u cn?
Bet that's what the hit and run scrote was doing ...
Lannis
Lannis🤣 your the best! That made me laugh and I needed that!
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No advice or invective , simply very glad you are both alright . Let's hope they catch the driver .
Dusty
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Moto
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Hopefully he's not from over the border.
Hear about this so much in so Cal and they never get caught.
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So glad that you and your daughter are OK - hope they get the purp...
Mark
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Glad you're all ok.
If it's worth anything, a few weeks ago an acquaintance was run into a ditch by a pickup pulling into the road. Broke his leg and the only description he could muster was: red Chevy pickup, king cab. Rural crash, so no witnesses and no security cameras anywhere.
Took about a week, but they found and arrested him.
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El Paso PD likely has a dedicated H/R unit, and hopefully will take this on as a special interest case since it was car vs. motorcycle and the resulting elevated risk of serious bodily injury or death in such accidents.
Your daughter being aboard makes it a potential public interest case, I would ask around if anyone your know has a contact in the local broadcast media and see if you can get a reporter interested in an interview. Film rolling of your destroyed V9 at the tow yard or wherever it is, with the interview sound bites voiced over. Makes an impact. Perhaps even your daughter saying something on camera about how the driver shouldn't have left-- that will peak public interest and increase the likelihood of both a more through police investigation as well as possible tips from the public.
Good luck with it and very glad you are both okay. As for the ass clown responsible, I hope he comes forward or if not, then runs from the police and they release a K-9 to take him down. He wants to run from the scene of the accident, then let him try to run from a rather athletic German Shepherd and see how that works out for him.
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The bike is just stuff. You and your daughter are irreplaceable. Glad you�re OK, and hope they catch the arsehole.
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El Paso PD likely has a dedicated H/R unit, and hopefully will take this on as a special interest case since it was car vs. motorcycle and the resulting elevated risk of serious bodily injury or death in such accidents.
Your daughter being aboard makes it a potential public interest case, I would ask around if anyone your know has a contact in the local broadcast media and see if you can get a reporter interested in an interview. Film rolling of your destroyed V9 at the tow yard or wherever it is, with the interview sound bites voiced over. Makes an impact. Perhaps even your daughter saying something on camera about how the driver shouldn't have left-- that will peak public interest and increase the likelihood of both a more through police investigation as well as possible tips from the public.
Good luck with it and very glad you are both okay. As for the ass clown responsible, I hope he comes forward or if not, then runs from the police and they release a K-9 to take him down. He wants to run from the scene of the accident, then let him try to run from a rather athletic German Shepherd and see how that works out for him.
Would love see a Shepard wasting on him!
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El Paso PD likely has a dedicated H/R unit, and hopefully will take this on as a special interest case since it was car vs. motorcycle and the resulting elevated risk of serious bodily injury or death in such accidents.
Your daughter being aboard makes it a potential public interest case, I would ask around if anyone your know has a contact in the local broadcast media and see if you can get a reporter interested in an interview. Film rolling of your destroyed V9 at the tow yard or wherever it is, with the interview sound bites voiced over. Makes an impact. Perhaps even your daughter saying something on camera about how the driver shouldn't have left-- that will peak public interest and increase the likelihood of both a more through police investigation as well as possible tips from the public.
Good idea. {Pedant mode ON} That word in this context is "pique" by the way {Pedant mode OFF}
Good luck with it and very glad you are both okay. As for the ass clown responsible, I hope he comes forward or if not, then runs from the police and they release a K-9 to take him down. He wants to run from the scene of the accident, then let him try to run from a rather athletic German Shepherd and see how that works out for him.
Some of my favorite COPS footage. There'll be some berserker whacked out of his mind on drugs, out in the middle of the street shirtless with a knife, screaming for the cops to come and get him so he can kill ALL of them, come get me you #####s .... and then they turn the dog loose. Next move is generally the bad guy dropping his knife, and running and squealing like a little girl as the dog grabs his arm and takes him down .... !
Probably won't be the outcome here though. Guy's long gone, I'll bet.
Lannis
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Another example of why I avoid riding at night. :cry:
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Glad you and your daughter are OK. Sounds like you were alert to the situation and controlled it admirably. The dirtbag that ran off has dropped himself in the sewer of society and can never comeback. He will die of self infection and disease. If they get him - and they probably will - he might have a chance to pay you back and clean himself off a little.
Best wishes for a full recovery for your daughter and you. (and a new bike!)
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To the OP, fantastic that you and daughter survived relatively unscathed. That is all that matters.
But it would be extremely satisfying if they catch that FF who hit and ran.
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Oh man. Glad you and your daughter got out of that in pretty decent shape. With whiplash, you'll likely feel it for a bit yet but walking away is a beautiful thing.
I have very fond memories of riding with my grandad on his full dress harley when I was about your daughter's age. Had a blast and wouldn't trade it for the world. Not only because I loved the experience but also I got to spend time with my grandad. Don't feel guilty for sharing something you love with your kids.
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I see people today riding in shorts and sandals, but the roads are so much more crowded than they were back then.
Sorry to read of your accident, I hope recovery is quick and full.
Regarding unsafe riding gear, Google search the term "motorcycle accidents sandals", then near the top of the results page click the Images tab. Nothing but aftermath photos of what used to be feet after pavement turned them to ground beef. Sickening photos.
Below ankle shoes of any kind are not much better. Nor are pull-on cowboy or engineer boots, which can disappear from your feet in a tumble. Secure fitting over-the-ankle boots (buckle or lace secured, and keeping laces secured themselves to avoid tangling with foot levers) are the only way to go.
Steve.
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I am pleased you two made it out alive, other than the whiplash reasonably unscathed. I really don't know how that was after looking at the bike photos! :shocked:
I think Pete summed up how most feel.
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OMG. When seeing the pics of the bike, so amazing and fantastic that you both were basically unharmed. That is cause for no small measure of celebration.
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I think about how we rode in the late 60's and 70's with very minimal protection protection. T-shirts, Jean jackets, combat boots, gloves if cold. But bikes were slower but handled much worse. Stopping power...joke!
Some of us rode with other minimal protection. I wore a heavy Bates Jacket, Chippewa motorcycle police boots, Shoi ZG and heavy motorcycle gauntlets unfortunately I wore black nylon slacks to work. I was working at a bar at the time
The Bates and chippewa's saved me many times. The Shoi I had to replace.
Never hit by a car though.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LbX9cASZdsw/TVwvE-5_ZJI/AAAAAAAAJJ0/Cf4StdVrLCA/s1600/bates%2Bjacket%2B2.jpg)
My youngest son can wear the old Bates. I really "outgrew" it in the last decade.
I always knew I'd take tumbles when I first started riding.
As a father I'm very thankful you're daughter didn't get hurt.
Mark
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Wow, I'm glad to hear you both are still around. Scary stuff how fast it all happens. Karma will take care of that suck-egg...
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Carrying a 10 year old daughter on a motorcycle is serious lack of judgement. Glad you are OK, but it`s close to reckless endangerment of someone who is under your protection as a mature adult
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^ I encouraged son #2 to go to Afghanistan and fight the Taliban. Check out “Restreppo.” That’s my son, the mortarman with the pirate ship tattooed on his left forearm. 300 fire fights in less than a year at the tip of the spear in the Korenghal Valley.
Life is full of decisions, choices, judgments... I decided to ride 300 miles today. I am blessed/fortunate/lucky to be alive. So is my son.
If I had a 10-year-old daughter, I would happily allow her to ride behind me on my Norge or Vespa and share the joy of riding.
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Carrying a 10 year old daughter on a motorcycle is serious lack of judgement.
More than smoking Chesterfields? You can't take all the risk out of life, so if you enjoy it, it's worth the slight increase in risk. The vast majority of rides end without incident and bring much pleasure to those who partake, which must be weighed against the small number who get hurt.
Very happy all is relatively well. My guess would be they were on their cellphone.
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Carrying a 10 year old daughter on a motorcycle is serious lack of judgement. Glad you are OK, but it`s close to reckless endangerment of someone who is under your protection as a mature adult
That's obnoxious.
I wonder what's "safer" riding with Dad or:
* Driving with a new teen behind the wheel
* Lack of car or booster seat for children
* Trampolines
* Skiing/snowboarding
* Playing team sports (read up on soccer and concussion injuries)
* Living a sedentary life (obesity)
Life is full of choices, risks, and rewards.
But there are FAR worse choices people as parents make every day.
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That's obnoxious.
I wonder what's "safer" riding with Dad or:
* Driving with a new teen behind the wheel
* Lack of car or booster seat for children
* Trampolines
* Skiing/snowboarding
* Playing team sports (read up on soccer and concussion injuries)
* Living a sedentary life (obesity)
Life is full of choices, risks, and rewards.
But there are FAR worse choices people as parents make every day.
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My Dad let me and my siblings drive a farm tractor at age 10, Among my fondness memories of being a kid. I'm glad the OP and daughter are ok,and can see no error in judgement from my perspective.
And as far as the coward who left the scene, what goes around comes around. :copcar:
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No advice or invective , simply very glad you are both alright . Let's hope they catch the driver .
Dusty
Hear Hear.
hopefully your daughter's takeaway is that prudent application of available safety devices works, and driving a cage (or anything) is serious business.
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Carrying a 10 year old daughter on a motorcycle is serious lack of judgement. Glad you are OK, but it`s close to reckless endangerment of someone who is under your protection as a mature adult
Judgmental crap.
I taught my daughter to ski when she was four, and to ride a bike at five. Rock climbing at seven. She began riding pillion with me as soon as she could reach the passenger pegs, and loved it. Her only broken bone came playing basketball at 12. At every step she learned and internalized the safety rules. Today, at 27, she's one of the strongest skiers at Jackson Hole, a hard-core rock climber in the Tetons, has traveled around the world on her own as a freelance photographer, and in general is the toughest, cheeriest, most self-confident person I know.
Coddling kids does them no favors.
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Judgmental crap.
I taught my daughter to ski when she was four, and to ride a bike at five. Rock climbing at seven. She began riding pillion with me as soon as she could reach the passenger pegs, and loved it. Her only broken bone came playing basketball at 12. At every step she learned and internalized the safety rules. Today, at 27, she's one of the strongest skiers at Jackson Hole, a hard-core rock climber in the Tetons, has traveled around the world on her own as a freelance photographer, and in general is the toughest, cheeriest, most self-confident person I know.
Coddling kids does them no favors.
Thank you for your support all my kids ride motorcycles, including the 10 year old. Started with my son at 6. I have 8 kids. 12 grandkids that we are starting in the dirt. Self confidence and pose. Never seen a generation gap among kids who ride with parents.
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