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Title: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Lumpy Idle on October 16, 2017, 02:59:02 PM
there is a new guzzi submission today on pipeburn. it is not my cup of tea but i invariably respect the work involved in these things. my major beefs with this one are: 1) to me a "scrambler" should have its pipes designed so that none of their bits are below the bottom of the engine, 2) the term "scrambler" these days is a marketing convention being applied to (often heavier) bikes that will never see a dirt road or a trail, 3) this one seems proportionally out of whack, there is no balance between the front, heavy, gas tank and engine zone and the rearward skinny seat and open space below. but its a guzzi and i think all guzzi visions should be seen here.

http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2017/10/16/moto-guzzi-t5-850-scrambler.html

Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Triple Jim on October 16, 2017, 03:11:20 PM
I wonder what's making the tank slope up toward the front.  That makes it look swaybacked.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Lumpy Idle on October 16, 2017, 03:17:16 PM
'swaybacked' is a good way to put it.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: oldbike54 on October 16, 2017, 03:24:14 PM
 Yeah , dirtbikes don't need fenders .

 Dusty
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Turin on October 16, 2017, 03:51:13 PM
Looks like an unfinished project to me. The battery tray (which was omitted) adds rigidity to the chassis.  Pretty lazy "build" over all. Two thumbs down.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: fotoguzzi on October 16, 2017, 04:51:45 PM
(http://www.pipeburn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/15_10_2017_Moto_Guzzi_850_T5_scrambler_Austria_Pipeburn_13.jpg)

Yuk!
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: rodekyll on October 16, 2017, 07:50:35 PM
Thanks for posting pics from the links, Brad.   :thumb:

That said, this reminds me that I need to see my dentist about that chronic bad aftertaste.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on October 16, 2017, 09:06:25 PM
Is a heavy bike with 16" front wheel really a good candidate for a scrambler conversion?  :huh:
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Triple Jim on October 16, 2017, 09:13:13 PM
Is a heavy bike with 16" front wheel really a good candidate for a scrambler conversion?  :huh:

Obviously! 

 :grin:
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: redrider90 on October 16, 2017, 09:54:37 PM
I wonder what's making the tank slope up toward the front.  That makes it look swaybacked.

I agree. The tank is very distracting and besides that is NOT a T5 tank. I believe it is a T3 tank.
Where's the battery?
I rather like the 2002 V11 that is linked at the end of the T5 article. It comes in at a whopping 380#s.
http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2015/07/10/00-moto-guzzi-v11-sport-santiago-choppers.html
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Triple Jim on October 16, 2017, 10:24:01 PM
Where's the battery?

One of the photos shows it in the tail.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Chesterfield on October 16, 2017, 10:33:51 PM
Why do these all these guys have such a problem making the rear of a bike look decent?
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: pete roper on October 16, 2017, 10:35:40 PM
And not having mudguards is retarded!
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Arizona Wayne on October 17, 2017, 02:01:13 AM
And not having mudguards is retarded!


Does retarded mean you don't have a clue WTF you are attempting to claim you are doing here?   If so then this 'artist' is definitely 'retarded'.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Turin on October 17, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
Looks like an 18" front wheel to me. Crossover looks like a mistral from a spineframe with one end welded shut.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Rusnak_322 on October 17, 2017, 01:59:11 PM
Anyone who thinks that this would ever be ridden off road for anything other then a photo shoot is on drugs.

It is heavy as hell, there is no suspension travel, the sump would be torn off way before the exhaust was ever in danger.

Still a fun bike, I like it except I agree that the tank is funky, it has a nice line that could have aligned nicely with the frame. Colors are pretty blah as well. If you don't ride in the dirt or rain, then fenders are not needed.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: screamday on October 17, 2017, 02:06:24 PM
One of the photos shows it in the tail.

Quote
For a minimalistic clean look, Dave turned to the ever-reliable Motogadget with the popular M-unit controller wired to a new, smaller battery hiding underneath the engine. “Motogadget really helps with hiding all those messy wires”,  says Dave, so it was possible to give the bike the clean, minimalistic look it was so clearly wanting.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Triple Jim on October 17, 2017, 02:45:34 PM
Yes, I had just looked at another modified bike of similar quality that had the battery in the tail, under and behind the seat, and mixed the two up, sorry.


(http://thumb.ibb.co/hOPgi6/not_your_average_bikes_s1_battery.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hOPgi6)

Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Guzzistajohn on October 17, 2017, 04:15:20 PM
Oh hell guys, no hipster will ever take that bike off road, it'll never make it past the Starbucks or the micro brewery for one of those putrid IPA's. It's just a great look with a tattoo, slicked back hair and a wallet with a dog chain attached :grin: it's better to LOOK MAH-VELOUS than to ride mah-velouos!
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on October 17, 2017, 04:19:40 PM
Looks like an 18" front wheel to me. Crossover looks like a mistral from a spineframe with one end welded shut.

Could be both wheels are 16", since that's what all US market T5s had.
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Psychopasta on October 17, 2017, 06:43:59 PM
The bike looks like a really fat guy sat on it and bent the frame  :whip2: I don't like the sudden change of angle between the tank and seat. But, it's whatever floats your boat I guess. The rest of the bike looks great.

- P

Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Fnq1000 on October 18, 2017, 04:02:14 AM
Uuuummmmmm......... .try to be nice ............... Uuuummmmmmm

Makes a standard T5 look pretty!

Cheers
Jason
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Green1000S on October 18, 2017, 04:27:36 AM

Better option:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/gq4wkm/IMG_4488.jpg) (http://ibb.co/gq4wkm)
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Rough Edge racing on October 18, 2017, 07:23:06 AM
 That's  not an off road bike, the dual sport tires are popular on cafe/custom bikes.It's a styling thing...You guys riding dual sports know some brands of those tires have excellent grip on paved roads...
  No fender short seat bikes are often called "Brat bikes", although the term is generally used for modified Japanese 70-80's bikes.I have no comment on the styling....
  I built this Cali 2 cafe bike about 4 years ago from scrap laying on my shop floor, all hand made...Not the most elegant machine but it functions well for it's intended purpose...

     (https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3717/14310903111_7614427c08_c.jpg)

  I built this 70 650 Triumph a few years ago with Shinko dual sport tires. The bike handled very nicely , but the tires are noisy..Of course a 390 pound Triumph can go down dirt roads...

       (https://i.imgur.com/ci6ArlWl.jpg)

   

     
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: perter on October 18, 2017, 07:32:59 AM
When I bought my SP1000 back in fall 2015 it had a similar styling...Heidenau K60 tires are crappy on pavement, steps sidewards if you lean in curves and the rear tire wore out in 5000km. They had some merit on dirtroads I admit, but for everyday use they suck IMO. I changed to Avon Roadrunner, they are more my style.

Mine even had the same handlebars from LSL.... copy cat.... I could have been in a fancy magazine too!

The tank looks like mine too. The reason it sits so strange is perhaps because it was made for the short steering neck where the tabs (might) be sitting lower than on the later tall steering neck on a T5?

A picture of mine back then and now.


(http://thumb.ibb.co/hbvsam/moto_guzzi_1000sp_2015.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hbvsam)




(http://thumb.ibb.co/cSmn86/moto_guzzi_1000sp_2017.jpg) (http://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: Shorty on October 18, 2017, 09:51:18 AM
In the comments section , the Moderator at Pipeburn asks if the bike could be used for extended trips. I thought , "Sure, all you need to do is add some fenders, street tires, a long flat seat , some mufflers, luggage  and a windshield."  :evil:
Title: Re: t5 - modded out on pipeburn
Post by: perter on October 18, 2017, 02:25:48 PM
In the comments section , the Moderator at Pipeburn asks if the bike could be used for extended trips. I thought , "Sure, all you need to do is add some fenders, street tires, a long flat seat , some mufflers, luggage  and a windshield."  :evil:
Longer trips could be the second closest Starbuck's.... longer does not mean the same to everyone ;-)