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Title: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: Guzzi Gal on October 16, 2017, 06:51:56 PM
I have another silly question for the Guzzi Mind Trust.  Our scooter's turn indicators make an audible clicking noise, which reminds us to cancel the signal when each turn is complete.  Both of our motorcycles have silent indicators, and sometimes we find ourselves riding for several minutes before remembering to cancel.  Is there a easy way to add a "click"?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: guzzisteve on October 16, 2017, 07:07:34 PM
I have seen buzzers attached but not clickers. You can get the buzzers at any accy shop.
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on October 16, 2017, 07:14:26 PM
The buzzers are usually polarity sensitive so you will also need a couple of small 1/4 to 1 Amp diodes

     Diodes
|-------|<------- Left side blinkers
|
|
|-------|<------- Right side blinkers
|
|    Buzzer
|----(+ -)-------to chassis
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: oldbike54 on October 16, 2017, 07:36:40 PM
 I need one that says in a stern voice

                                      Hey stupid , turn off the flasher

 Dusty
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: Bonaventure on October 16, 2017, 07:41:54 PM
I don't know how you'd ever hear it over the engine noise and exhaust note.  A scooter is a lot quieter than a V7 Guzzi !!
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: ITSec on October 16, 2017, 08:58:47 PM
Just hit the button when you shift - works for everything except lane changes...
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: Guzzi Gal on October 16, 2017, 10:15:27 PM
I need one that says in a stern voice

                                      Hey stupid , turn off the flasher

 Dusty

I like it!   :grin:
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: ITSec on October 17, 2017, 02:13:35 AM
I like it!   :grin:

Besides, you live in Arizona - 85% of the people there never turn off their signals anyway.

The rest are young enough to still be working.  :evil:
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: kingoffleece on October 17, 2017, 06:08:10 AM
She makes a good point.
Plenty of us have developed the habit of canceling the signal non a regular basis-every stop, as soon as you get to a steady throttle situation, and such.

It's an important habit to develop for safe street riding according to the trainers.  I'd agree with them.
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on October 17, 2017, 06:33:16 AM
I don't know how you'd ever hear it over the engine noise and exhaust note.  A scooter is a lot quieter than a V7 Guzzi !!

This is the one I use for an alarm on railway track machines, puts out95 dB of annoying beep.
https://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/mallory-sonalert-products-inc/PK-20A35EW-24VQ/458-1344-ND/4996074
I put one on my 72 Loop, my top end hearing is shot but I have no trouble hearing it over the engine on 12 Volts
People with normal hearing could hear me coming around the corner a block away.
:thewife: complained that it sounded very much like the backup alarm for a fire truck and told me to disconnect it.
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: Guzzi Gal on October 17, 2017, 08:07:43 AM
Besides, you live in Arizona - 85% of the people there never turn off their signals anyway.

I think you meant "85% of the people there never use their signals anyway."  Most people here seem to rely on some sort of telepathy to communicate their driving intentions.  Drives me nuts!  :thewife:
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: ccoli on October 17, 2017, 09:24:51 AM
I had a buzzer on one bike that got really obnoxious at stop lights.. so I used a clutch cable with a switch to disable the buzzer when the clutch was pulled in.
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: normzone on October 17, 2017, 11:29:22 AM
I still want one with two programmable chips, so instead of beeping a womans voice (italian accent) can calmly say "sinistra" or "destra" until I turn it off.

It's all doable, just need some clever person to engineer it, make a bill of materials and an assembly instruction.
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: rodekyll on October 17, 2017, 12:19:24 PM
Noisemakers are free and live under your older car's dashboard.  My first turn signal buzzer came to me the day I de-barked my seatbelt.  After that I've gotten them from junkyards and cars being parted out.  But they advertise your inability to hold a thought, and I disapprove of calling attention to my shortcomings (one reason I don't date).  So I'm looking for alternatives. 

On the trike I use bright LED dash bulbs.  They're obnoxious enough to want to shut them off right away and still silent, so the entire neighborhood isn't treated to my CRS remedy.  On my two-wheeler I installed a silent blinker for the LED signals, and wired up in parallel, a second, clicky-type with a resistor for a load.  I can hear the clicker most of the time.  It drives me nuts though because it clicks at a different rate than the LED clicker, so the dash bulbs are out of synch with the sound.

Lately I've been trying to train myself to push the cancel button any time I see a light flashing -- someone else's turn signal, traffic light, advertising sign, etc. 

Now one old boy I know did a "significant" mod on his Ambo that solved the problem.  He mounted the turn signal pod from an old semi (I think he said it was a Mack)*.  It's got a stick on it about 8" long that sticks up and operates with about 30ยบ left or right lean.  Yeah, baby -- ain't no missing that thingy wagging in your peripheral vision.

*  This is the same guy who misunderstood when they said "Son, that Ambo's got no horns."  He sent Slicer to some unattended Cadillac and remedied the situation -- with the steer horns from the hood of the Caddy.  Mounted them on the Wixom fairing.  Or was it a Buco?
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: Guzzi Gal on October 17, 2017, 10:29:18 PM
I still want one with two programmable chips, so instead of beeping, a womans voice (italian accent) can calmly say "sinistra" or "destra" until I turn it off.

Oooooooo, that'd do nicely. 
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: kidsmoke on October 18, 2017, 05:24:04 AM
One advantage of bar end turn signals.
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: Tom on October 18, 2017, 09:18:40 PM
Daytime I use hand signals.  Night time....."What's that blinking yellow???.....Oh yeah!!" :grin:
Title: Re: Missing Turn Indicator "Click"!
Post by: normzone on October 18, 2017, 11:18:23 PM
Oooooooo, that'd do nicely.

I began researching components today, but it's a far step from a working prototype on the bench to something that will stand up to weather and vibration, and be heard above traffic.

I'm a QA guy, not a real designer - I just babysit designers.