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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: kenvil1 on November 08, 2017, 09:07:34 AM
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Here's a link to Total Motorcycle's 2018 Moto Guzzi motorcycle guide.
https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2018/Moto-Guzzi-models
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Nice!
Those pics of the V85 are really good!
I'm thinking one of those will end up in the garage when it comes out!
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Lots of variations of the V7III...sales must have been good on small blocks.
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how can they list the V85 for this seasons showrooms when they can't even show the motor at a trade show as yet?
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how can they list the V85 for this seasons showrooms when they can't even show the motor at a trade show as yet?
I am curious about the same thing...
I hope they really not being overly ambitious with the engine so they can chase sale...
either that or they were hiding it...????
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Truthfully, I'd be fine with a smaller Stelvio-like bike with the existing V9 engine. I'd certainly take it for a ride and consider it for purchase.
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Agreed 100%.
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What I noticed is that the Griso is shown as a 2018 model (USA) - are they just using up some left-over CARC components with a new label, in a market where the old engine still meets the regs? Inquiring minds want to know...
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What I noticed is that the Griso is shown as a 2018 model (USA) - are they just using up some left-over CARC components with a new label, in a market where the old engine still meets the regs? Inquiring minds want to know...
Yes
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V85 looks good and all the small blocks look good also. Nice.
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:drool:I'm liking that V7 III Milano !
Curious what the color really looks like, and if there's any little mods from existing models other than cometic.
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how can they list the V85 for this seasons showrooms when they can't even show the motor at a trade show as yet?
I called my dealer and asked if I can get on a waitlist... They had someone from sales call me back who claimed that the Piaggio reps told him that it wouldnt be on US showroom floors until 2021... for the 100th anniversary.
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Lots of variations of the V7III...sales must have been good on small blocks.
I thought that was odd... six variants seems a bit much, and the stone, special, & racer look unchanged from 2017?
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I called my dealer and asked if I can get on a waitlist... They had someone from sales call me back who claimed that the Piaggio reps told him that it wouldnt be on US showroom floors until 2021... for the 100th anniversary.
If this is true, I might as well look somewhere else if I want to get into enduro touring type... :thewife:
So sad, I really like how Guzzi's design line with its old and new... :undecided: :embarrassed:
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I'm looking at chrome 2013 V7 Racers. None of the line up has my interest. Maybe the red Eldo but not at the full bore retail price. :shocked:
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Wait a while. You'll find one at a lesser cost I'm sure.
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I'm in for the v85--I'll take both of 'em
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Nothing of interest for me, glad I got a CARC when I did.
V85 looks like they're going after Honda's Africa Twin . . .
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OK, I admit that green Roamer is pretty hot, and really digging the overall look with the screen and all. Time to look at these again...2018 might be bad for my wallet!
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Good to see they tossed that fugly and out of style side-cover arrangement of the 2017 V7
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Is the v85 engine a small block/heron head type?
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Is the v85 engine a small block/heron head type?
No. It has a new, 5 valve head(ala' Yamaha Genesis)
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Liquid cooled 1400's?
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Is the v85 engine a small block/heron head type?
The smallblock moved from a Heron Head to a Hemi Head for 2017 (V7 and all V9 models from introduction on). And FWIW the smallblocks seemed to make a nice little jump in power at that point.
Pete noted when he first examined one that it looked like they might be setting up for a future dual-plug / 4V head.
So the speculation is the V85 will be just that (4V or possibly 5V head) to maximize what can be done for performance while still making emissions on an air-cooled lump.
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Any word on MSRPs for the new bikes? Gotta start budgeting! :grin:
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I doubt that the 85 has a 5 valve head.
And if that bike won't be out until 2021 (and I doubt that too), I can't see anything in the foreseeable future that would draw me into a showroom. My interest would more a sport/sport tourer- a new Lemans.
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I wonder why they don't have a variation of the Norge 1200 in the form of a naked standard... Think of it as an updated Breva 1200. Get a Norge and take off all the excess plastics. Show me the engine with a small chin spoiler on it (if that!).
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Any word on MSRPs for the new bikes? Gotta start budgeting! :grin:
I stopped in one of our Michigan dealers and put myself on a waiting list for the V85 (no info at all...sales guy had no idea what I was talking about)....the sales dept had hundreds of bikes in the show room...hundreds of quads and snow machines...I asked about MG and we had to walk out back to a stock building to see the 3 bikes they did have...a Stornello, California 1400 and a V7 Classic.
Anyone know of a dealer that promotes the bikes in the Midwest?
Thanks for the post :)
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Good to see they tossed that fugly and out of style side-cover arrangement of the 2017 V7
Yeah, now similar to the V9. Looks homemade, I prefer the "out of style" side-cover arrangement of the 2017 V7. A matter of taste, but the side covers put me off buying a V9.
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Cool!
Don't the V7 bikes account for at least 50% of Moto Guzzi's sales? (I am not sure if that is by units or by revenue.) If so, they are wise to focus on that line.
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What I noticed is that the Griso is shown as a 2018 model (USA) - are they just using up some left-over CARC components with a new label, in a market where the old engine still meets the regs? Inquiring minds want to know...
The existing Griso model isn't Euro 4 compliant hence it can be sold in the US but not in Europe. It's in the works...
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I like the V7 Carbon with limited production numbered to 1921. I like it when they use that marketing strategy.
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I love them all some more than others, but its more like H-D with 85 models with such subtle and indistinguishable differences and put a name to it and call it a new model.
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ZZZZZZZZ
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I stopped in one of our Michigan dealers and put myself on a waiting list for the V85 (no info at all...sales guy had no idea what I was talking about)....the sales dept had hundreds of bikes in the show room...hundreds of quads and snow machines...I asked about MG and we had to walk out back to a stock building to see the 3 bikes they did have...a Stornello, California 1400 and a V7 Classic.
Anyone know of a dealer that promotes the bikes in the Midwest?
Thanks for the post :)
My dealer is an avid Moto Guzzi rider and only sells Guzzi.....nothing else.
Cadre Cycle in Cincinnati ...owned and operated by Enzo Miller. True Guzzi Guy and worth the effort to buy a bike!
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My dealer is an avid Moto Guzzi rider and only sells Guzzi.....nothing else.
Cadre Cycle in Cincinnati ...owned and operated by Enzo Miller. True Guzzi Guy and worth the effort to buy a bike!
That guy has some good year end closeout prices on bikes !!
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Cadre even has a Guzzi billboard on Fields-Ertel road just north of 275.
I've never seen that before.
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I just bought my first Guzzi from Enzo @ Cadre... first class experience, super guy, I’d recommend them to anyone!!
I like the slim metal mudguards on the ‘18’s (previously on the Stornello and Anniversario). I may fit a set to my Special. I think they look more elegant, and clean up/lighten (visually) the rear.
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This V85, looking at the wheels, I'm guessing inner tubes, or is that rim still tubeless? Hopefully tubeless.
And, where are the spark plugs hidden? Would that be a large cover over the plugs, completely covering the valve cover as well?
I'm liking this bike. This could be what I'd hoped my old 650 VStrom would have been. Slightly more engine but under 1000cc, and no chain drive.
Steve.
(https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2018-Moto-Guzzi-V85d-1024x839.jpg)
(image from totalmotorcycle.com)
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This V85, looking at the wheels, I'm guessing inner tubes, or is that rim still tubeless? Hopefully tubeless.
Steve.
(https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2018-Moto-Guzzi-V85d-1024x839.jpg)
(image from totalmotorcycle.com)
Looks like the Alpina tubeless spoke wheels that's on the current Griso model. For comparison, here's a close up of the front wheel on my 16 Griso.
(https://s20.postimg.org/qtrzzy47x/20171102_174142enhanced.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That XN85's a cutie.
Are they actually going to sell that in the U.S.?
(https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2018-Moto-Guzzi-V85c-1024x885.jpg)
Todd.
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That XN85's a cutie.
Are they actually going to sell that in the U.S.?
(https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/2018-Moto-Guzzi-V85c-1024x885.jpg)
Todd.
The XN85 was already sold here - in 1983! :wink: :evil:
(http://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/XN85_1-600x399.jpg)
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The XN85 was already sold here - in 1983! :wink: :evil:
(http://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/XN85_1-600x399.jpg)
HA!
Being totally queer for that period Suzuki - I can't believe that I missed that. :bow:
Todd.
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The Milano spins my wheels. Pity I don't have a rich rellie ready tom pop his clogs.
The V85 concept sounds interesting. Will be interested if it ever sees the light of day.
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I'm looking at chrome 2013 V7 Racers. None of the line up has my interest. Maybe the red Eldo but not at the full bore retail price. :shocked:
There is a new (2016 model) red Eldo for sale in Vegas for $11K
https://www.eurocyclelasvegas.com/inventory/2016-moto-guzzi-eldorado-las-vegas-nv-89118-2133836i
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Thanks.
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There is a new (2016 model) red Eldo for sale in Vegas for $11K
Holy cripes! That’s 1/3 off the regular price. It really does pay to hold off making a purchase sometimes.
I wonder if Tom owns it yet?!
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I'm looking for a 2013 chrome V7 Racer but I like the red Eldo. :shocked:
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Cool!
Don't the V7 bikes account for at least 50% of Moto Guzzi's sales? (I am not sure if that is by units or by revenue.) If so, they are wise to focus on that line.
Probably because older guys like me need lighter bikes now than in their past. :smiley:
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I stopped in one of our Michigan dealers and put myself on a waiting list for the V85 (no info at all...sales guy had no idea what I was talking about)....the sales dept had hundreds of bikes in the show room...hundreds of quads and snow machines...I asked about MG and we had to walk out back to a stock building to see the 3 bikes they did have...a Stornello, California 1400 and a V7 Classic.
Anyone know of a dealer that promotes the bikes in the Midwest?
Thanks for the post :)
The guys at Cleveland Moto know their Guzzi’s
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I just bought my first Guzzi from Enzo @ Cadre... first class experience, super guy, I'd recommend them to anyone!!
I like the slim metal mudguards on the 18's (previously on the Stornello and Anniversario). I may fit a set to my Special. I think they look more elegant, and clean up/lighten (visually) the rear.
Congrats on your new Special. :gotpics: Welcome to WG!!!
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So when is Guzzi gonna put the 2018's on their website? It seems every other manufacturer has their 2018 lineup long since added to their respective websites.