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Title: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Dalini on November 09, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
Flustrated
Valentimes Day
Birfday
Dat
And my favorite to which I reply “go ahead then”- “I could care less.”
There are more
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Lumpy Idle on November 09, 2017, 07:37:19 PM
Aks me a question.
we had pisgetti and meatballs for dinner.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Lumpy Idle on November 09, 2017, 07:44:09 PM
the big one: "new-cue-lahr"
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Phang on November 09, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
90% of the English words that came out from my mouth are mis-pronounced in one way or another
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: cloudbase on November 09, 2017, 07:50:41 PM
the big bigly one: "new-cue-lahr"
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: oldbike54 on November 09, 2017, 08:00:26 PM
Aks me a question.
we had pisgetti and meatballs for dinner.

 Except "ax" was the excepted pronunciation in Chaucer's time , and is still accepted in many pidgin speaking cultures . Like critter instead of creature , critter was probably the way it was pronounced in England until the 1800's .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: JeffOlson on November 09, 2017, 08:10:06 PM
All-timers
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Rich A on November 09, 2017, 08:13:44 PM
Daylight savings time.

Rich A
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: John Ulrich on November 09, 2017, 08:18:52 PM
I'm gonna get me.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: KraZ440 on November 09, 2017, 08:24:41 PM
Guzzi
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Matt Story on November 09, 2017, 08:27:21 PM
Please try to be more pacific!
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: antmanbee on November 09, 2017, 08:29:49 PM
My pronunciations are always getting misconscrewed.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: oldbike54 on November 09, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
Please try to be more pacific!

 Yes , please do .

 Some of you guys should never come to Oklahoma based on what bothers you , we will cause head explosions .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: pehayes on November 09, 2017, 08:51:16 PM
I'm a biologist so:

ZO-OLOGY
and
DiS-SECTION

And yes, AKS was a common, old British pronunciation carried to the new world by British house servants and thereafter taught to the new, non-volunteer, non-English speaking servants.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: oldbike54 on November 09, 2017, 09:12:56 PM
 So is it Arkansas or Ar Kansas ? Depends on where you are doesn't it ? If you are in Kansas and ask where Arkansas City is that question will be met with a blank stare . Ar Kansas City is a small town in SE Kansas spelled Arkansas City . If you are in NE Oklahoma and ask where Miamee is we will say Florida , be cause we pronounce it the correct way , which is of course Miamuh .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: PJPR01 on November 09, 2017, 09:40:57 PM
Better fix the spelling on the topic header...might help with the proper pronunciation!

Another vote for Nu-Ku-Lar...especially when the majority of the Presidents of the USA fail to pronounce it properly!

Re-La-tor...who sells Real Estate...
Libarian...hard to find a good book in A Libary!

Febuary...an imaginary month!




Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: giusto on November 09, 2017, 09:44:12 PM
Dusty...Norm Crosby made a career out of them....Crosbyisms. ..actually called malapropisms...whic h is a bit different....the use of an incorrect word in place of a word with a similar sound....."Texas has a lot of electrical votes" and "lavatories of innovation"

leads one to think of Yogi

"you can observe a lot by just watching"

"it's like deja vu all over again"

"The future ain't what it used to be"

everyone has a favorite Yogiism.

Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: analog kid on November 09, 2017, 10:05:48 PM
In my high school auto shop, a kid at the tool crib window asked for a "pin-ball hammer".

 :shocked:

"Uh, you mean ball-peen hammer?"
Yup.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: PJPR01 on November 09, 2017, 10:16:56 PM
French benefits instead of fringe benefits...although in some perfect world French might be fringe!
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: PJPR01 on November 09, 2017, 10:18:53 PM
Except "ax" was the excepted pronunciation in Chaucer's time
 Dusty

I suppose you meant accepted rather than excepted...or is that axing too much to assume that??

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: analog kid on November 09, 2017, 10:31:20 PM
Many more here:

https://youtu.be/Jfq3c4Cf1Fs (https://youtu.be/Jfq3c4Cf1Fs)

If they want the new V85 to be a success, Piaggio must pay attention to the supply and command...
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Tom H on November 09, 2017, 10:43:34 PM
90% of the English words that came out from my mouth are mis-pronounced in one way or another

I do not know your history or how much you have practiced speaking the English language, but you type it just fine!

Guzzi

After 35+ years of saying Guzzi, I don't ever see me changing to Guttzi (pronounce ??) as in making the Z a T.

Just my 2 cents,
Tom
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Triple Jim on November 09, 2017, 10:49:44 PM
I don't understand the resistance to pronouncing Guzzi as Goot-zee, when no one has any problem pronouncing pizza at peet-za.  It's the same thing!
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 10, 2017, 12:30:47 AM
I don't understand the resistance to pronouncing Guzzi as Goot-zee, when no one has any problem pronouncing pizza at peet-za.  It's the same thing!
I had trouble pronouncing mispronounciation, until I changed the spelling to mispronunciation.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Tom H on November 10, 2017, 01:56:21 AM
I don't understand the resistance to pronouncing Guzzi as Goot-zee, when no one has any problem pronouncing pizza at peet-za.  It's the same thing!

You do have a valid point there. I do say pizza as you put it "peet-za"

Tom

I'm still gonna say Guzzi!! :evil: LOL
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Lumpy Idle on November 10, 2017, 02:00:47 AM
an incidental note:

"jewelery" is the place that makes the stuff you put on your wrist or around your neck whereas jewelry is the stuff itself.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Tom H on November 10, 2017, 02:05:01 AM
an incidental note:

"jewelery" is the place that makes the stuff you put on your wrist or around your neck whereas jewelry is the stuff itself.

Gees, you just explained why I never felt I was spelling that word correctly.

Thank you!
Tom
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 10, 2017, 02:10:35 AM
an incidental note:

"jewelery"
Wouldn't that be "jewellery" given that the singular is "jewell"?
You really do need the two l's.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 10, 2017, 02:25:44 AM
I feel a song coming on.
How about that classic we learned at the spoonerisms school for pismronunciation.
I'm not a Pheasant Plucker...
I'm a Pheasant Plucker's Son...
OR...
Granny Mc Crucket...
Had a rough cut p...

Oh, never mind... :rolleyes:

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Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Mr Pootle on November 10, 2017, 03:11:59 AM
Parsley is a herb. Herbert is known to his friends as “Herb”. In the UK We sound the “H”in both. Do you drop it in both in the USA?
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Dukedesmo on November 10, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
Pronunciations surely?
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: blackbuell on November 10, 2017, 05:35:59 AM
I'm a biologist so:

ZO-OLOGY
and
DiS-SECTION

Patrick Hayes


Fremont CA

Patrick,

I'm also a biologist (was an A & P prof, now retired); the dissection one is kind of a pet peeve of mine, but whenever I raise the issue with anyone, I usually get an eye-roll; must remember that many folks are mistrustful of people who use proper grammar and care to use proper spellings or pronunciations, or they just don't give at rat's ass about it.

Jon
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Phang on November 10, 2017, 06:00:42 AM
I do not know your history or how much you have practiced speaking the English language, but you type it just fine!

After 35+ years of saying Guzzi, I don't ever see me changing to Guttzi (pronounce ??) as in making the Z a T.

Just my 2 cents,
Tom

If there are enough people mis-pronouce the same word, it will become an accent  :grin:
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Zoom Zoom on November 10, 2017, 06:25:14 AM
Pronunciations surely?

And don't call me Surely! :laugh:

And yet another vote for nuclear. (Ya saw I spelt it correctly, didntcha.)

John Henry
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Moto on November 10, 2017, 07:25:29 AM
the big one: "new-cue-lahr"

I think this objection is BS. It's a shibboleth for the nanny class (not meaning this personally about anyone here).

My father was a nuclear engineer, one of the designers of the S5W reactor that powered about 100 U.S. submarines, and later a manager of several reactor facilities for the Navy. He said "new - cue - lahr," and so this is how I learned to say it. I grew up in Idaho Falls, ID, home to a government reactor testing station of 30 or more plants out in the desert. I never heard any other pronunciation until I was living California when I was about 30.

Jimmy Carter took training in nuclear reactor operation in the Navy, and he said "new - cue - lahr."

No doubt Rickover, the father of the nuclear Navy, said it that way too.

How do we pronounce Worchester, MA? Wooster, right? Why? Because the people who live there pronounce it that way. And so on for many, many counter-orthographic pronunciations.

"Nue - clee - ahr" is the pronunciation of pedants and the politically correct, of those who were trying to set themselves up as superior to the people who used the actual term in their life's work, mere engineers. (By now, they may have prevailed on our modern Navy, for all I know. Don't get me started about admirals who talk about "driving" a ship.)

"New-cue-lahr" is a noble, correct pronunciation, lexicographers be consarned. I wouldn't care about how the clueless pronounce the word except that they intentionally, and boringly, use their favored pronunciation as a way to put down people who deserve respect, not contempt.

Moto





Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Triple Jim on November 10, 2017, 07:39:07 AM
Parsley is a herb. Herbert is known to his friends as �Herb�. In the UK We sound the �H�in both. Do you drop it in both in the USA?

Usually the name keeps the H sound, although New Yorkers often drop the H sound in "human".  I guess in the UK you have various ways to pronounce words, depending on location and upbringing as well.  :)

Here, lots of folks incorrectly pronounce "realtor" as ree-la-tor, and I've heard even doctors pronounce dilate as "die-a-late".

Moto, I've heard plenty of humble folks, including engineers and technicians, pronounce "nuclear" correctly.  To me, it seems to be split about 50-50.  I suppose it is determined by what is at the center of an atom.  Is it a "noo-clee-us" or a "noo-cue-lus"?

Marge Simpson brought up pronouncing Fall foliage as "Fall foilage".  :)
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Moto on November 10, 2017, 08:28:28 AM
Moto, I've heard plenty of humble folks, including engineers and technicians, pronounce "nuclear" correctly.  To me, it seems to be split about 50-50.  I suppose it is determined by what is at the center of an atom.  Is it a "noo-clee-us" or a "noo-cue-lus"?

Yes, I'm sure that must be true. I regard it as a triumph of the pedants.

Plenty of sailors out there "driving" subs these days too.

Moto
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Diploman on November 10, 2017, 09:09:23 AM
My late father-in-law, a wonderful man with a special talent for artfully/innocently mangling English, came home from a visit to the doctor one day to report a diagnosis of atrial fibrillation:

"The doc said I've got aerial flipperation!"
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: oldbike54 on November 10, 2017, 09:46:44 AM
I suppose you meant accepted rather than excepted...or is that axing too much to assume that??

 :thumb:

 Just pointing out how fluid the English language is and always has been . Hell , several rules of spelling and punctuation that some "experts" are so married to are nothing more than some invented piece of self important fluff . The semi-colon being one example . And don't even get me started on the term Ya'll , unless and except you are willing to accept that in Oklahoma we consider it to be superior to you'se guys  :laugh:

 By the pricking of my thumbs , something wicked this way comes .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: PJPR01 on November 10, 2017, 09:59:17 AM
I think this objection is BS. It's a shibboleth for the nanny class (not meaning this personally about anyone here).

My father was a nuclear engineer, one of the designers of the S5W reactor that powered about 100 U.S. submarines, and later a manager of several reactor facilities for the Navy. He said "new - cue - lahr," and so this is how I learned to say it. I grew up in Idaho Falls, ID, home to a government reactor testing station of 30 or more plants out in the desert. I never heard any other pronunciation until I was living California when I was about 30.

Jimmy Carter took training in nuclear reactor operation in the Navy, and he said "new - cue - lahr."

No doubt Rickover, the father of the nuclear Navy, said it that way too.

How do we pronounce Worchester, MA? Wooster, right? Why? Because the people who live there pronounce it that way. And so on for many, many counter-orthographic pronunciations.

"Nue - clee - ahr" is the pronunciation of pedants and the politically correct, of those who were trying to set themselves up as superior to the people who used the actual term in their life's work, mere engineers. (By now, they may have prevailed on our modern Navy, for all I know. Don't get me started about admirals who talk about "driving" a ship.)

"New-cue-lahr" is a noble, correct pronunciation, lexicographers be consarned. I wouldn't care about how the clueless pronounce the word except that they intentionally, and boringly, use their favored pronunciation as a way to put down people who deserve respect, not contempt.

Moto

Totally bogus explanation, they all said it wrong...

Say the word New by itself
Say the word Clear by itself

Put the two together - it doesn't sound like Nu Ku Lar unless you are also not pronouncing Clear properly.

Just because someone has done it that way for years wrong doesn't make it correct, and there's nothing pedantic about it.  Even experts make mistakes in their own field...

It's the same issue with ReLAtor intead of Realtor (Say Real, Say Tor...put them together), why continue to make the same error over and over, and why the resistance to say it correctly.  There are a lot of people who don't use present tense or past tense properly either and have done so for generations, and it's common, but it doesn't make it noble or right....that's a justification for not wanting to be correct.

You don't have to be a nuclear engineer to pronounce it correctly...if that's what you mean by clueless!  That's the funniest explanation I've heard in a while for saying it wrong!

Now...if you told me that someone didn't pronounce double braaat wit da works, once hey, in proper Skansin, I'd agree with you!!  Raising a Leinenkugel for all the Nu Ku Lar Engineers!!
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: dguzzi on November 10, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
Hand me those needle type nose pliers.  Nucler, quick and easy  (new cler)
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: n3303j on November 10, 2017, 10:33:26 AM
I'm bothered by "orientation" variants.
One attends orientation to become oriented, not ORIENTATED.
But orientated has been used in so many places where oriented should be used that orientated has become an acceptable  (dictionary inclusion) word.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: cloudbase on November 10, 2017, 10:44:20 AM
Not seeing any misproportions here.

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Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Triple Jim on November 10, 2017, 10:44:44 AM
But orientated has been used in so many places where oriented should be used that orientated has become an acceptable  (dictionary inclusion) word.

A lot like "for free", where "free" should be used.  Free means "without cost", so saying "I got the lunch for free" means "I got the lunch for without cost."
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: giusto on November 10, 2017, 10:45:13 AM
Pronunciations surely?


some are...the others are actually called malapropisms...whic h is a bit different....the use of an incorrect word in place of a word with a similar sound

like the pin-ball hammer...lol first time I've heard that

Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Scud on November 10, 2017, 10:53:03 AM

After 35+ years of saying Guzzi, I don't ever see me changing to Guttzi (pronounce ??) as in making the Z a T.


Say Pizza...
Say Mozzarella...
Say Guzzi...

Why should the ZZ in Guzzi be pronounced differently? Muzzle and Guzzle have consonants after the ZZ; the T sound precedes a vowel.

And while we're at it, there is no "uh" in Husqvarna. It's Hoosk-vahr-na, not Husk-uh-var-na
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Triple Jim on November 10, 2017, 11:18:39 AM
And while we're at it, there is no "uh" in Husqvarna. It's Hoosk-vahr-na, not Husk-uh-var-na

I had a good neighbor who thought it was Huskavera.    :grin:   He also had a Discovery credit card and unfortunately developed Pancreitis.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Moto on November 10, 2017, 11:52:09 AM
Just because someone has done it that way for years wrong doesn't make it correct, and there's nothing pedantic about it.

Good lord. "Wrong?"

Pedant!

Moto
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: oldbike54 on November 10, 2017, 12:04:55 PM
Say Pizza...
Say Mozzarella...
Say Guzzi...

Why should the ZZ in Guzzi be pronounced differently? Muzzle and Guzzle have consonants after the ZZ; the T sound precedes a vowel.

And while we're at it, there is no "uh" in Husqvarna. It's Hoosk-vahr-na, not Husk-uh-var-na

 You have never met any of our brethren from the Lafayette LA area . They pronounce Guzzi in a very unique way  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Lumpy Idle on November 10, 2017, 12:37:42 PM
i have to agree with pjpr01 on this one (and against moto.) there are a number of pronunciations which are the consequence of what i call "lazy mouth" or "sing-song mouth" (none of the others are coming to my ageing mind at the moment.) New-cue-lahr is a great example though. it relies upon a mangling of the word based upon rhyming. "New" and "cue" are formed by the mouth in very similar ways. they end in a mouth shape that is like an "O." this rhyming similarity makes it very tempting for lazy speakers to be seduced by the temptation to repeat the sing-song nature of the initial vowel sound.  this aberration, and it is a common one, do not make it correct - even if your dad did it. sorry, i don't want to pick a fight with you or your dad here but you cannot explain it away just because your dad did it. if your dad was a grammarian then maybe you'd have a case. i wouldn't argue nuclear physics with your pop but i don't expect him to argue language tips and tricks either. i'm going to try to recall the other examples of the sing-song pronunciations...we'll see how far i get.

oh, finally, it can well be argued that eventually that the popular mispronunciation will eventually become the norm and also that geography changes all the rules. i mean, if you are in NYC you are looking for Houston street (pronounced "house-ton") but if you are in texas and you are helping victims of the flooding you are in "you-stun."  if you are in the UK you are not looking for house-ton station. these variants become the norm for their locality as i am sure that new-cue lahr has done in various regions. so, it is perhaps foolish of me to argue otherwise.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Tom H on November 10, 2017, 01:41:35 PM
Nuclear...nu-cle-r. Made me have to think about just how I say it. The A and the R come out as one letter.

Huski, I've always hear it with the uh.

Guzzi...Gu"zz"i dang nabit!!

 :grin:
Tom
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: MotoChuck250 on November 10, 2017, 02:30:08 PM
I think this objection is BS. It's a shibboleth for the nanny class (not meaning this personally about anyone here).

My father was a nuclear engineer, one of the designers of the S5W reactor that powered about 100 U.S. submarines, and later a manager of several reactor facilities for the Navy. He said "new - cue - lahr," and so this is how I learned to say it. I grew up in Idaho Falls, ID, home to a government reactor testing station of 30 or more plants out in the desert. I never heard any other pronunciation until I was living California when I was about 30.

Jimmy Carter took training in nuclear reactor operation in the Navy, and he said "new - cue - lahr."

No doubt Rickover, the father of the nuclear Navy, said it that way too.

How do we pronounce Worchester, MA? Wooster, right? Why? Because the people who live there pronounce it that way. And so on for many, many counter-orthographic pronunciations.

"Nue - clee - ahr" is the pronunciation of pedants and the politically correct, of those who were trying to set themselves up as superior to the people who used the actual term in their life's work, mere engineers. (By now, they may have prevailed on our modern Navy, for all I know. Don't get me started about admirals who talk about "driving" a ship.)

"New-cue-lahr" is a noble, correct pronunciation, lexicographers be consarned. I wouldn't care about how the clueless pronounce the word except that they intentionally, and boringly, use their favored pronunciation as a way to put down people who deserve respect, not contempt.

Moto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHdl_0q-F60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHdl_0q-F60)
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Lumpy Idle on November 10, 2017, 02:35:08 PM
if you pay attention to the position of your tongue when you say "new-cue-lahr" you find that it is pressed above your top teeth when pronouncing the first syllable "new." it is a simple shift of the tongue to press it downward against the wall of your lower teeth to pronounce the "cue" sound. when done in rapid order it is quite easy to go from "new" to "cue."

if you pronounce it properly as "new-clee-uhr" then you see that there is a big shift in mouth position from the ovoid mouth position of 'new" to the grimacing mouth position (do i have spinach on my teeth?) of "clee." this is more work. so, its just easier to pronounce it "new-cue-lahr" and that's why i call it lazy mouth or sing song mouth.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: motoguzziman on November 10, 2017, 02:51:13 PM
Ok, Ive been busy, with family stuff, so Im a bit late,entering this thread, but yes, it is a strange subject.
I have to ask the following ; Now, remember I am a Dane, having learned English, as a fo�reign language.

In English, you get  Burgled, by a Burglar.  In the USA,  now, you get Burglarized,  according to Judge Judy  ??
So, how come you americans, are not also ,  robberized, muggerized  or carjackized ? 
The UK is not free of this phenomenon either, as I have seen tv programmes from the UK, with younger interviewers, who also somehow fail to grasp the language, asking if  people felt pressurised  into doing something... where the correct  term in English, is  Pressured.  I get the impression, that  the UK journalism schools, are scraping the barrel, to get applicants.
I find it  sad, that  reading  what used to be a serious newspaper, today has articles, written by numbnuts, who actually use words  like : Pregnant Fish  &  Lone Proximity  ( Whatever  that is supposed to mean )  Yet nobody ever issues any apology or excuse.
I guess its all part of this mainly  lefty driven EU, where xams are bad because it could upset the less clever.
Nobody fails, and we are all happy together !
Sorry ....I am not a part of your  PC lefty feminist claptrap ! Ok so the BBC has supposedly removed all urinals and expect men to sit down to pee, so they can sympathise with their female counterparts !  Sorry , I am Guy, and I ride a Guzzi, Do not expect PC claptrap, from  me !
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Scud on November 10, 2017, 02:55:14 PM

Huski, I've always hear it with the uh.

Guzzi...Gu"zz"i dang nabit!!

 :grin:
Tom

If you're riding it, you can pronounce it any way you want.   :thumb:

Aprilia, Velocette, and probably many others have variants of pronunciation.


And for a little scope-creep on this dialog (dialogue?):

There are also intentionally derogatory mispronunciations. Not malapropisms, but dare I coin a new phrase... malicious-propisms, such as:

Hardley Ableson
Kawasucki
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: tris on November 10, 2017, 03:59:39 PM
I can remember standing in a suppliers storeroom and my colleague said looking about" there's a lot of infantry in here"
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Scud on November 10, 2017, 04:27:32 PM
I can remember standing in a suppliers storeroom and my colleague said looking about" there's a lot of infantry in here"

Was your colleague a member of Cavalry Chapel?
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: TobyJug on November 11, 2017, 12:04:18 AM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned NORGE yet.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Triple Jim on November 11, 2017, 07:31:35 AM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned NORGE yet.

My washing machine is a KENMORE.  :)
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Ncdan on November 11, 2017, 08:19:17 AM
I ant a smart man as Forest said but I HUGE AND HUMAN start with a H not a U
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 11, 2017, 08:28:00 AM
Totally bogus explanation, they all said it wrong...

Say the word New by itself
Say the word Clear by itself

Put the two together - it doesn't sound like Nu Ku Lar unless you are also not pronouncing Clear properly.

Just because someone has done it that way for years wrong doesn't make it correct, and there's nothing pedantic about it.  Even experts make mistakes in their own field...

It's the same issue with ReLAtor intead of Realtor (Say Real, Say Tor...put them together), why continue to make the same error over and over, and why the resistance to say it correctly.  There are a lot of people who don't use present tense or past tense properly either and have done so for generations, and it's common, but it doesn't make it noble or right....that's a justification for not wanting to be correct.

You don't have to be a nuclear engineer to pronounce it correctly...if that's what you mean by clueless!  That's the funniest explanation I've heard in a while for saying it wrong!

Now...if you told me that someone didn't pronounce double braaat wit da works, once hey, in proper Skansin, I'd agree with you!!  Raising a Leinenkugel for all the Nu Ku Lar Engineers!!
That'd be "wrongly" BTW...
Oh, an you Americans, how can you justify "irregardless", (it even got a mention on The Simpsons)
As in..
"I've just washed the bike and it's starting to rain again, but I'm going to ride it irregardless..."
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: PJPR01 on November 11, 2017, 09:19:29 AM
Good catch Huzo...I stand corrected on wrong...should have been wrongly...at least it wasn't mispronounced, just grammatically incorrect.  :)

Here's a little entertaining reading material for you on irregardless, which I agree doesn't seem to be correct, I don't use it, however, there are quite a few persuasive arguments in its favor:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS757US757&ei=ShQHWtu_K6TbjwSJ4LT4DA&q=irregardless+is+not+a+word&oq=irregard&gs_l=psy-ab.3.2.0l6j0i131k1j0l3.20483.21954.0.23909.8.8.0.0.0.0.112.740.6j2.8.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.8.736...46j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i20i264k1j0i46k1j0i10k1.0.IKlP3B2nAMI

P.D.  And that would be AND you Americans, rather than An...  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 11, 2017, 09:25:42 AM
Good catch Huzo...I stand corrected on wrong...should have been wrongly...at least it wasn't mispronounced, just grammatically incorrect.  :)

Here's a little entertaining reading material for you on irregardless, which I agree doesn't seem to be correct, I don't use it, however, there are quite a few persuasive arguments in its favor:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS757US757&ei=ShQHWtu_K6TbjwSJ4LT4DA&q=irregardless+is+not+a+word&oq=irregard&gs_l=psy-ab.3.2.0l6j0i131k1j0l3.20483.21954.0.23909.8.8.0.0.0.0.112.740.6j2.8.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.8.736...46j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i20i264k1j0i46k1j0i10k1.0.IKlP3B2nAMI

P.D.  And that would be AND you Americans, rather than An...  :thumb: :thumb:
Damn, bugger, drat, poop !!!!
You got me mate. (Spotted the deliberate mistake, YOU PASSED !!!):embarrassed:
I love it when a smarty pants cops it in the guts... (especially when it's me) :bow:
Oh,while we're on the topic of my major mistakes, it's also incorrect to commence a sentence with the word "And"...I didn't use it in your example, but I slid it in a couple of times.. (so to speak).
Gone again..
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 11, 2017, 09:36:44 AM
So "irregardless" would be showing no regard for a regardlessness.
Example: Un careless ness, would be NOT careless, OR "careful"..
Further breakdown of that would be " to have regard for"...
The double negative combining to cancel out.
Thus leaving "to show or HAVE regard for." :undecided:
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: PJPR01 on November 11, 2017, 09:52:58 AM
You got it!   :thumb: :thumb:

As a friend of mine once said, half jokingly:

Ain't nobody, nowhere, no how, gonna tell me nuttin! 

Time to ride!!  Weather is beautiful, things to do in the garage and then for a spin!
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 11, 2017, 09:59:27 AM
Yeah, well said...
Take care, thanks for the jousting session 'twas fun.
(Except for the bit where you knocked me off my horse !!!)
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Triple Jim on November 11, 2017, 10:01:20 AM
I used to let it bother me when I heard someone use a word that should have had the "ly" ending, but instead had the adjective form.  Then I started watching the little videos on the Marriam-Webster site.  The history of the language is often not taught in school, just the "rules". 

Flat Adverbs:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/video/drive-safe-in-praise-of-flat-adverbs
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: kenvil1 on November 11, 2017, 10:04:04 AM
Escape goat.

Card shark.

Yuge. (Having been raised in a french-speaking household, that's how I mispronounce the word huge, according to my english-speaking friends who never ever fail to point it out!)
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 11, 2017, 10:05:12 AM
I hate the new one...
"I went to the fair, it was very fun"
I kid you not, it was on the ABC here in Australia, (our national broadcaster) :thewife:
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: PJPR01 on November 11, 2017, 11:34:31 AM
Yeah, well said...
Take care, thanks for the jousting session 'twas fun.
(Except for the bit where you knocked me off my horse !!!)

 :thumb: :thumb:  Enjoyed that as well!  Next time we'll make it a game of chess! 
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: PJPR01 on November 11, 2017, 11:35:49 AM
Escape goat.


Winner, I'll have to remember this one.  C'est trop drole!
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Triple Jim on November 11, 2017, 11:43:06 AM
Winner, I'll have to remember this one.  C'est trop drole!

My father-in-law was somewhat hard of hearing, and used to say "scrapegoat", among other unique pronunciations of words.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 11, 2017, 03:39:36 PM
:thumb: :thumb:  Enjoyed that as well!  Next time we'll make it a game of chess!
Nah.
If it's going to involve pawn, if won't be spelled that way !
I pride myself on being as sick as the next bloke...
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: G12W650 on November 11, 2017, 03:51:44 PM
Most Aussies here over a certain age will remember old Dorrie Evans from No.96 who was always letting her husband Herb (or maybe erb for the US readers) know she was  ardament about something or other.
Lately my favourite is Wayne Carini (Chasing Classic Cars) who finds simular cars to ones he has seen or owned.
And a mate of mine always wanted to paint a Muriel.

Mick.
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 11, 2017, 07:38:09 PM
Most Aussies here over a certain age will remember old Dorrie Evans from No.96 who was always letting her husband Herb (or maybe erb for the US readers) know she was  ardament about something or other.
Lately my favourite is Wayne Carini (Chasing Classic Cars) who finds simular cars to ones he has seen or owned.
And a mate of mine always wanted to paint a Muriel.

Mick.
First things first, it's actually "similar" cars, but I digress.
We weren't allowed to watch Number 96 I was too young.
Mum and Dad used to put that televisual feast to good use, up 'till then I was an only child !
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: G12W650 on November 12, 2017, 12:36:59 AM

Mate, that's what I meant, he says simular, NOT similar
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: Huzo on November 12, 2017, 01:28:17 AM
Mate, that's what I meant, he says simular, NOT similar
Oh dear...
Yes well that's just not good enough. When I see ads for boxed sets of Crawford productions, I can't believe how bad that crap really was.
Cringeworthy...
Title: Re: Mis-pronounciations.
Post by: jumpmaster on November 12, 2017, 07:10:51 AM
Just to add fuel to the fire - my ex-wife, who was on her way to getting a MA in Linguistics at Georgetown U. (in DC) back in the 70s when it was regarded as a leader in the field, told me that she was taught there that a native speaker cannot make a "mistake" in his/her native language.  According to them, it would just be a "non-standard usage."  I never thought to ask her if a non-native speaker would be making a "mistake" if they demonstrated the same usage, though....