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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: lucian on December 04, 2017, 07:32:20 AM
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Some times it's the smallest things that can send us off looking for answers. This one has had me perplexed for some time now.
Why does a bar of soap no longer act like soap when it gets little? I got's to know.
I am sure there are many more out there , please share.
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I want to know that too
some soaps are consistent to the core, one of them is Pears Soap
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Pears-Soap-barbox.jpg/350px-Pears-Soap-barbox.jpg)
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So is Kirk's Coco Castile.
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The soap thing is real but it's got to be surface-area related, the surface area goes down with some log function of the volume of the bar, so there's just less area to react with the water and make soapsuds. Otherwise you'd have to assume that the soap isn't homogenous all the way through, and that would be expensive to manufacture .... ?
Why can you not buy a chocolate orange at Christmas any more, the kind you could whack against the table and it would separate into sections? They used to be in every Dollar General and supermarket and Kmart at Christmas time by the thousands and sold out every year ... and now no one sells them any more. They still sell them in the UK but not in the US? What's up with that?
Lannis
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makes it easier for parents to wash kids mouth out with it :sad:
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makes it easier for parents to wash kids mouth out with it :sad:
Ralphie approves this post :laugh:
Dusty
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Why can you not buy a chocolate orange at Christmas any more, the kind you could whack against the table and it would separate into sections? They used to be in every Dollar General and supermarket and Kmart at Christmas time by the thousands and sold out every year ... and now no one sells them any more. They still sell them in the UK but not in the US? What's up with that?
I'm pretty sure that it is due to climate change. There are much fewer regions in the world where you can grow chocolate oranges. That and the Anita Bryant vs. chocolate orange growers law suit filed years ago. :grin:
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The soap thing is real but it's got to be surface-area related, the surface area goes down with some log function of the volume of the bar, so there's just less area to react with the water and make soapsuds. Otherwise you'd have to assume that the soap isn't homogenous all the way through, and that would be expensive to manufacture .... ?
Why can you not buy a chocolate orange at Christmas any more, the kind you could whack against the table and it would separate into sections? They used to be in every Dollar General and supermarket and Kmart at Christmas time by the thousands and sold out every year ... and now no one sells them any more. They still sell them in the UK but not in the US? What's up with that?
Lannis
Lannis,
You’re too slow, that’s all. Remember that in the world we now live “Christmas” started long ago. They are sold out. I got the very last one in the store last week.
Crazy? Agreed.
Hunter
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I'll play - why, when you can only get money out in $10 increments, does the ATM make you enter the amount down to the penny?
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I'll play - why, when you can only get money out in $10 increments, does the ATM make you enter the amount down to the penny?
Mine doesn't.
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What’s an atm? I make my money the old fashioned way—— I print it :boozing:
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The soap thing is real but it's got to be surface-area related, the surface area goes down with some log function of the volume of the bar, so there's just less area to react with the water and make soapsuds. Otherwise you'd have to assume that the soap isn't homogenous all the way through, and that would be expensive to manufacture .... ?
I'm not familiar with other brands of soap, but was thinking that the more processed ones have fillers or maybe moisturizers such that the actual active sudsy ingredient leaches out of the bar during use, leaving a more inert core at the end. But this was just idle speculation.
Moto
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I'm still wondering why ice is slippery.
And now I'm wondering how it is that a siphon works.
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We gots us left-handed baseball mitts, left handed scissors and left-handed drill bits. I'm still waiting for someone to invent the left-handed pencil. :clock:
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We gots us left-handed baseball mitts, left handed scissors and left-handed drill bits. I'm still waiting for someone to invent the left-handed pencil. :clock:
Couldn't you just take a normal right handed pencil and carefully loosen the metal eraser coupling, then cut the pointed end square , re install the eraser, sharpen the opposite end , fashioning a proper left hand model. :shocked:
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Couldn't you just take a normal right handed pencil and carefully loosen the metal eraser coupling, then cut the pointed end square , re install the eraser, sharpen the opposite end , fashioning a proper left hand model. :shocked:
I think that gives you an Ozzie pencil , a left handed pencil is created by running the sharpener in reverse . Hmm , maybe that is bassackwards :huh:
Dusty
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Couldn't you just take a normal right handed pencil and carefully loosen the metal eraser coupling, then cut the pointed end square , re install the eraser, sharpen the opposite end , fashioning a proper left hand model. :shocked:
That's the regular way of making a left-handed pencil, but what us lefties want to see is the end of digital discrimination. We don't like being labeled "sinister" "gauche" and "that guy who smears pencil all over the paper" (recall that Righties are labeled as "dexterous, "righteous", and they NEVER get accused of smearing a written page) because the world has snubbed us as a citizen class. Society does a better job of recognizing juvenile survivors of octogenarian Alzheimer's than they do of admitting to having a left-hander present in the room. We want to be recognized as contributing members of society and we want the same functionality in our tools and utensils as everyone else. Handedness, like political affiliation or career identity, is not a choice. the goddess made us this way. But so far the only industry concessions I've seen made to the 15% of the population that is left handed is Indy racing and the lug nuts on the left side of old Dodge Darts. Even the lug nuts backfired (unlike the rest of the Dodge Dart, which was in my opinion not a loser) -- did you ever try to get the left side lug nuts off a Dodge Dart without knowing the trick?
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I want to know that too
some soaps are consistent to the core, one of them is Pears Soap
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Pears-Soap-barbox.jpg/350px-Pears-Soap-barbox.jpg)
It's the oldest brand in the world. Used to be wonderful until they changed the formula a few years back. Was all natural ingredients and dried in the sun (and only a buck a bar at Ocean State Job lot). Now it's got some synthetics and alcohol in the formula and smells a bit like medication.
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Why can you not buy a chocolate orange at Christmas any more, the kind you could whack against the table and it would separate into sections? They used to be in every Dollar General and supermarket and Kmart at Christmas time by the thousands and sold out every year ... and now no one sells them any more. They still sell them in the UK but not in the US? What's up with that?
Lannis
We never considered them to be Christmas related, we always thought of them as a treat when visiting Cost-Plus. The Terry's Chocolate Oranges are available at Target too, I think.
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I did snap all five lug nuts off a Willy's years ago until I figured out it wasn't a corrosion problem. Just a righty on the wrong side of the damn jeep.
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That's the regular way of making a left-handed pencil, but what us lefties want to see is the end of digital discrimination.
I think our only chance is when the righties make something better for us without recognizing it. Some argue that tape measures are really left-handed, since holding the reel (spool?) in your right hand as intended leaves the left free to mark the measurement with a pencil. Other cases are similarly subtle. I have a set of Italian Air Force espresso cups (with the eagle emblem, remember them?) that let you see the eagle if you hold the cup in your right hand. No doubt righties thought that was optimal for them, but when I use my espresso spoon in my left hand I have reason to disagree.
The Etruscans, I believe, wrote from right to left, being righties and thinking that would be best. This would have allowed the left-handed Etruscans (if any were allowed to write that way) avoid smearing the parchment. It took the Romans to analyze the situation and reverse it for the benefit of righties.
Righties are often completely unaware that the most common tools and artifacts are all designed for them. Ever seen a left-handed camera?
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My solution to the soap issue, from my account over at the Halfbakery.
(note - subtle encouragement for the most clever among you to join and contribute over there. When you read some of the ideas you may question my definition of clever)
http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Graduated_20Bar_20Soap#1351296698
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I think our only chance is when the righties make something better for us without recognizing it. Some argue that tape measures are really left-handed, since holding the reel (spool?) in your right hand as intended leaves the left free to mark the measurement with a pencil. Other cases are similarly subtle. I have a set of Italian Air Force espresso cups (with the eagle emblem, remember them?) that let you see the eagle if you hold the cup in your right hand. No doubt righties thought that was optimal for them, but when I use my espresso spoon in my left hand I have reason to disagree.
The Etruscans, I believe, wrote from right to left, being righties and thinking that would be best. This would have allowed the left-handed Etruscans (if any were allowed to write that way) avoid smearing the parchment. It took the Romans to analyze the situation and reverse it for the benefit of righties.
Righties are often completely unaware that the most common tools and artifacts are all designed for them. Ever seen a left-handed camera?
Back in the day, scribes were chosen in part for their handedness as much as their literacy. The early Catholic church wouldn't let a lefty write or transcribe religious papers. Even when I was a kid the church was determined to wipe out left-handedness. Sister Mary Holywater used to tie my left thumb to my belt and whack on my right hand knuckles during penmanship class on account of the left hand is the devil's instrument. it is that exact set of knuckles that now suffer from debilitating rheumatism. Coincidence? I think not. I got sent to the Mother Superior's office once for arguing that lefties were naturally equipped to sit at the right hand of God. Blasphemy, she said. Whack, whack went the ruler. It didn't solve the "problem", but throughout my life my hands hurt every time I see a nun.
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Before the days of the Internet the left hand always held the magazine........... . :evil:
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My solution to the soap issue, from my account over at the Halfbakery.
(note - subtle encouragement for the most clever among you to join and contribute over there. When you read some of the ideas you may question my definition of clever)
http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Graduated_20Bar_20Soap#1351296698
This is interesting , but what causes common bars to have a suddsless center?
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Back in the day, scribes were chosen in part for their handedness as much as their literacy. The early Catholic church wouldn't let a lefty write or transcribe religious papers. Even when I was a kid the church was determined to wipe out left-handedness. Sister Mary Holywater used to tie my left thumb to my belt and whack on my right hand knuckles during penmanship class on account of the left hand is the devil's instrument. it is that exact set of knuckles that now suffer from debilitating rheumatism. Coincidence? I think not. I got sent to the Mother Superior's office once for arguing that lefties were naturally equipped to sit at the right hand of God. Blasphemy, she said. Whack, whack went the ruler. It didn't solve the "problem", but throughout my life my hands hurt every time I see a nun.
:grin: :grin: That's some good stuff right there, David.
And Norman? Uhh.. you have some original thinking that I haven't thought of. Yet. Or maybe never. :cool: :boozing: :smiley:
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This is interesting , but what causes common bars to have a suddsless center?
I only use one kind of soap. Once the bar is too thin to lather up good, I get out a new bar, "glue" the old one to it in the shower and let it dry till the next shower, and it's all one piece, lathering up like a good 'un.
That's the procedure I wrote up to get my invitation to the Moto Guzzi club.
Lannis
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I only use one kind of soap. Once the bar is too thin to lather up good, I get out a new bar, "glue" the old one to it in the shower and let it dry till the next shower, and it's all one piece, lathering up like a good 'un.
That's the procedure I wrote up to get my invitation to the Moto Guzzi club.
Lannis
That's what I was taught to do when I was a kid on the farm. I'm rich, now.. (comparatively) and throw it away. :smiley:
(Probably Dorcia sticks it on hers.)
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I use Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Soap. Liquid soap. The label's fun to read when you don't have other things to do. :shocked:
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:grin: :grin: That's some good stuff right there, David.
And Norman? Uhh.. you have some original thinking that I haven't thought of. Yet. Or maybe never. :cool: :boozing: :smiley:
Speaking of which, go to 9:10 on this song and you'll hear the sound I want my turn signals to make.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyuHEVDmC-M
"That's what I was taught to do when I was a kid on the farm. I'm rich, now.. (comparatively) and throw it away. :smiley:"
I know that feeling ! My wife has to remind me I have (some) money and I don't need to darn my socks or recycle my popsicle sticks. We could write an entire thread about growing up without money.
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I use Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Soap. Liquid soap. The label's fun to read when you don't have other things to do
I've run out of hot water before finishing reading that label. It could be broken up into chapters.
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It's the oldest brand in the world. Used to be wonderful until they changed the formula a few years back. Was all natural ingredients and dried in the sun (and only a buck a bar at Ocean State Job lot). Now it's got some synthetics and alcohol in the formula and smells a bit like medication.
They are now made in India, like the Royal Enfield bikes.
I started using it in 1992 , noticed a change somewhere along 2008~2010 and quit in 2012. The original formula has a very unique aroma and pleasant to the skin. The new formula smells awful and made my skin crack and itchy.
The other thing I like about this soap was, they fuse together easily and the concave sides of the new bar made a perfect shape for the old bar to stick on.
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Original Pears was also out of India.
There was a big rush in buying up the originals when the formulation changed. At one point I owned 144 bars.
Wife thought that was gross.
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At one point I owned 144 bars.
Wife thought that was gross.
When I was just a young'un, our family had a case of White Floating bar soap, which we kept in the basement. Got to the point that when you needed a new bar you'd have to rummage around in the box to find one that wasn't too mouse-chewed. Even with 4 kids in the house, at 1 bath a week that case lasted a long time..... ;^)
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Some times it's the smallest things that can send us off looking for answers. This one has had me perplexed for some time now.
Why does a bar of soap no longer act like soap when it gets little? I got's to know.
I am sure there are many more out there , please share.
As we mostly know, many things no longer act like they should when they get little. :rolleyes:
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Why can you not buy a chocolate orange at Christmas any more, the kind you could whack against the table and it would separate into sections? They used to be in every Dollar General and supermarket and Kmart at Christmas time by the thousands and sold out every year ... and now no one sells them any more. They still sell them in the UK but not in the US? What's up with that?
Lannis
So if I start shipping Terry's Chocolate Oranges to the States I'll be able to retire?? :thumb: :thumb:
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So if I start shipping Terry's Chocolate Oranges to the States I'll be able to retire?? :thumb: :thumb:
We were just over in Cornwall a couple weeks ago, and every Morrison's or Sainsbury's or Tesco's we went into, as well as every little High Street shop, had Terry's Chocolate Oranges all over the shelf.
I've been in a dozen stores here in the last week or two, sometimes just to look and NONE of them have any! And I'm telling ya, a couple years ago each store had shelves full of them even after Christmas.
There's been a plague or something, I'm guessing ....
Lannis
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Hey, here's one!
Why, when you're getting a bunch of unwanted Emails from someplace where you may or may not have bought something, or some site you browsed through ... and you go to the bottom of the message and click "Unsubscribe" ...
... Why does it say "It may take up to 10 business days for this option to be effective"?
They know that we know that it actually takes about 1 millisecond for it to be effective. Why do they do something to p!ss off the customer AND make themselves look stupid one more time ... ?
Lannis
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"Statistics" is shortened to "stats" the world around.
But "mathematics" is shortened differently depending on where you are: "maths" in Britain, "math" in the U.S.
What's up with that?
Moto
P.S. Anyone else never notice that "stats" is a palindrome?
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Here's another observation:
The U.S. Navy historically put the emblem (e.g., a fouled anchor) on the side of its coffee cups (used in the officer's mess) that faces away from the drinker if the cup is held in the right hand. I noticed this in an old movie, and confirmed it on ebay.
Almost every mug and coffee cup nowadays does the opposite, presumably so the drinker can enjoy the emblem or logo.
Does anyone know if the modern Navy continues its old practice? (Or have mugs supplanted the coffee cups entirely?)
I think the practice reflected a different valuing of the individual vs. the group. The old cups' emblems were in effect badges, that displayed the drinker's membership to observers, including other officers. New mugs (and maybe new Navy cups, for all I know) are decorated for the private enjoyment of the drinker. To me, this is profoundly sad.
Moto
P.S. The Navy also produced some 1940's or 1950's era cups that had emblems 180 degrees opposite the handle, apparently in ambivalence about who should be the target of the display.
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"Statistics" is shortened to "stats" the world around.
But "mathematics" is shortened differently depending on where you are: "maths" in Britain, "math" in the U.S.
What's up with that?
Moto
P.S. Anyone else never notice that "stats" is a palindrome?
Still the same coming and going in a kayak. :wink:
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Still the same coming and going in a kayak. :wink:
Yo, banana boy! :wink:
Lannis
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Here's another observation:
The U.S. Navy historically put the emblem (e.g., a fouled anchor) on the side of its coffee cups (used in the officer's mess) that faces away from the drinker if the cup is held in the right hand. I noticed this in an old movie, and confirmed it on ebay.
Almost every mug and coffee cup nowadays does the opposite, presumably so the drinker can enjoy the emblem or logo.
Does anyone know if the modern Navy continues its old practice? (Or have mugs supplanted the coffee cups entirely?)
I think the practice reflected a different valuing of the individual vs. the group. The old cups' emblems were in effect badges, that displayed the drinker's membership to observers, including other officers. New mugs (and maybe new Navy cups, for all I know) are decorated for the private enjoyment of the drinker. To me, this is profoundly sad.
Moto
P.S. The Navy also produced some 1940's or 1950's era cups that had emblems 180 degrees opposite the handle, apparently in ambivalence about who should be the target of the display.
Hence the old Navy song, Anchors away.
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Hence the old Navy song, Anchors away.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumb:
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Here's another observation:
The U.S. Navy historically put the emblem (e.g., a fouled anchor) .....
And why (to extend the "Hmmmm...." one more level) is the symbol a fouled anchor in the first place?
My Dad was a career CPO, and told me the one on his uniform symbolized the daily ... troubles ... that a chief had to put up with .....
Lannis
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And why (to extend the "Hmmmm...." one more level) is the symbol a fouled anchor in the first place?
Here's an unusually learned-seeming explanation:
04-06-10, 00:09
Anchors shown in heraldic context such as on badges, arms, headstones and so on are always shown fouled, with the cable around the stock. Anyone know why this is?
As you can see, anchors in heraldry are shown clear more often than fouled. Fouled examples are often in insignia of organizations with some sort of historical link to the UK.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Anchors_in_heraldry&until=File%3ASnezhnogorsk+%28Murmansk+Oblast%29+co a.png
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Anchors_in_heraldry&from=File%3ASnezhnogorsk+%28Murmansk+Oblast%29+coa .png
In the UK, we are used to seeing mostly fouled anchors because the fouled anchor is the official insignia of the Lord High Admiral of the Admiralty, so when british maritime organizations have wanted to use an anchor they have tended to use the fouled type.
It was probably adopted because the fouled anchor was the personal seal of Lord Howard of Effingham, who was Lord High Admiral at the time of the Armada, and was transferred to the office of state instead of the person at that time.
The fouled anchor is thought to symbolise steadfastness and hope in tribulation, and has long been used as a christian symbol.
The US Navy and coast guard use plain anchors in their official seals, but do use fouled in some, but not all of their rank badges...mixed heritage I guess. Alledgedly, the U.S.N. on a US navy petty officer's fouled anchor badge does not stand for US Navy but for for Unity Service Navigation. I have this from several retired US Navy chiefs.
Maybe they chose to give the fouled anchors to the petty officers because of all the trials and tribulations ahead on the climb to the cleared anchors of a US Navy warrant officer.
From this web page: http://www.ybw.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-239302.html (http://www.ybw.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-239302.html)
If true, that really is interesting.
Moto
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And speaking of mischaracterized mascots, (see what I did there?), what about the eagle? It's like a seagull with inferior social skills -- a carrion eater by choice, and grumpy by nature. We give it qualities of nobility and revere it in song and prose. But a few minutes of actual eagle observation would convince anyone that they are just a nastier variation of the common pidgeon.
My favorite is the need of groups and businesses to associate with the "screaming eagle" as though a screaming eagle is a desireable association. Have you ever heard an bald eagle scream? I'm listening to one right now -- scratching my eardrum with a steel wool q-tip would be more pleasant. The eagle is in a tree near the house and is quite upset that some big owl is roosting a few trees over. Now an owl has a respectable scream. An owl scream has everything the eagle wished his did -- volume, tone, and an ominous unidirectionality that implies "I'm coming for you, and you can't know from where or when!" The owl's scream is your only indication that he's there. In the night you can't see him, and his flight is completely soundless -- look it up. On the other hand, you can hear a eagle's dry flapping well before he steals your fish. The owl's voice is always calm, determined, and confident. The owl has only one message, and he delivers it with punctuation. The eagle is more like a rookie cop shrieking "show me your hands!" at that upper octave only severe fear or tight skivvies can produce. When they congregate (and they do -- the lone eagle is a romantic author's myth) the effect is similar to a gaggle of pubescent girls who have just sighted any pop singer.
This eagle has been vetching at the owl all morning in a tone somewhere between a squeaky flagpole pulley and chalk scritching across slate. WhoTF would want their football team, military unit, or aftermarket mufflers associated with THAT hot, whiny mess? Instead of fear and respect, the petulant, shrill racket strikes instant annoyance into the hearts of everyone that hears. The listener want to put the offender down for a nap, change its diaper, or lock it in the bedroom until it behaves.
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I like owls. Besides being an "aumakua" (Hawaiian family god) for my family, the owl is what Dave says they are. :thumb:
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Thats it , all the eagles are coming off my guzzis. Owls will take there rightful place. Especially when all I here is, WHOO, WHOO, WHOO, the frig would want one of those. :laugh:
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Here's an unusually learned-seeming explanation:
From this web page: http://www.ybw.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-239302.html (http://www.ybw.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-239302.html)
If true, that really is interesting.
Moto
It certainly sounds likely enough to me. Even squares up with what my Dad told me.
Lannis
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But "mathematics" is shortened differently depending on where you are: "maths" in Britain, "math" in the U.S.
Funny, that’s the opposite of an article I just read which states that Britain uses the singular, whereas North America uses the plural. They have “scrambled egg” for breakfast, we have “scrambled eggs.”
Palindrome: madam im adam
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Funny, that�s the opposite of an article I just read which states that Britain uses the singular, whereas North America uses the plural. They have �scrambled egg� for breakfast, we have �scrambled eggs.�
That could be a rule that's generally true, and an interesting one. But I have plenty of direct experience of the "math" (U.S.) vs. "maths" (British) usages in my work.
Do you have citation for the article? I'd be interested in it.
Moto
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That could be a rule that's generally true, and an interesting one. But I have plenty of direct experience of the "math" (U.S.) vs. "maths" (British) usages in my work.
Do you have citation for the article? I'd be interested in it.
Moto
Shows up all over. "My husband just watches sport on the telly all weekend."
"Norvil are a company that reproduces parts for Nortons." Never sure where you are at ....
Lannis
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Do you have citation for the article? I'd be interested in it.
Lego or Legos? By Mignon Fogarty
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/lego-or-legos
Quote: "people in the UK are much more likely than Americans to talk about sport instead of sports." (Lannis)
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Lego or Legos? By Mignon Fogarty
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/lego-or-legos
Thanks! Not the definitive treatment I suppose, but no doubt on the right track.
The math/s and stat/s one still is puzzling. Both words came from singular roots that gave way to plurals, at least in French and English, according to dictionaries.
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P.S. The Navy also produced some 1940's or 1950's era cups that had emblems 180 degrees opposite the handle, apparently in ambivalence about who should be the target of the display.
Those cups are for the lefties.....
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Those cups are for the lefties.....
No, the logos are opposite the handle, and can't be seen by anyone, like South Park.
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No, the logos are opposite the handle, and can't be seen by anyone, like South Park.
It wouldn't matter, though. There's foolproof evidence.
If the guy is just drinking his coffee, holding the handle in one hand, it's hard to tell.
But if the hand that's holding the cup also has a cigarette between two fingers, then it's a Navy guy sure as shootin' ....
Or you can glance into the cup once it's half-empty. If the inside of the cup is coated with coffee residue deep enough to plow from the last 100 cups of coffee, he's probably enlisted Navy.
Lannis
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Does the peppermint soap taste better when you get your mouth washed out with it.
Childhood memories.
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I’d like to meet the cruel etymologist who thought that an “s” belonged in the word “lisp.”
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Here are my two observations.
The ears of an owl are asymmetrical--they are located on different points on their head.
So that's akin to the arrangement of Moto Guzzi cylinders, which are asymmetrical due to the side-by-side location of the connecting rods on the crank. I'm not sure which side of an owl's head has the higher ear.
Second, I note that Rodekyll has some very strong, but well-informed opinions about eagles and owls.
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But a few minutes of actual eagle observation would convince anyone that they are just a nastier variation of the common pidgeon....... Now an owl has a respectable scream. An owl scream has everything the eagle wished his did -- volume, tone, and an ominous unidirectionality that implies "I'm coming for you, and you can't know from where or when!" The owl's scream is your only indication that he's there.
I'm feelin' ya, rodekyll.... As an undergrad at WVU, I spent some time as a "technician" (grunt) working on field research with the grad students in the Wildlife Management department. One study was looking at raptor use of reclaimed strip mines, & part of the field work was to climb the trees where the subject raptors were nesting & collect various data. Even with eggs or live offspring in the nest, an eagle will sit in a nearby tree, carrying on noisily, as well-described by David, until you are done & leave. An owl, on the other hand, will make every effort, & I do mean EVERY effort, to tear you bodily from the tree, or failing that, just tear you up in situ. Just amazing how a 3-4 pound bird can get the best of a very healthy 195 pound human. They have my eternal respect....
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Does the peppermint soap taste better when you get your mouth washed out with it.
Childhood memories.
Used to take Dr. Bronners backpacking. Used it to wash dishes, bathe AND brush my teeth! :thumb:
Jeff
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:1: Beats having to carry a bunch of stuff. :thumb:
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I'm feelin' ya, rodekyll.... As an undergrad at WVU, I spent some time as a "technician" (grunt) working on field research with the grad students in the Wildlife Management department. One study was looking at raptor use of reclaimed strip mines, & part of the field work was to climb the trees where the subject raptors were nesting & collect various data. Even with eggs or live offspring in the nest, an eagle will sit in a nearby tree, carrying on noisily, as well-described by David, until you are done & leave. An owl, on the other hand, will make every effort, & I do mean EVERY effort, to tear you bodily from the tree, or failing that, just tear you up in situ. Just amazing how a 3-4 pound bird can get the best of a very healthy 195 pound human. They have my eternal respect....
Ya ever had a 1 LB Banty hen come off her nest intent on causing bodily harm to anything nearby? :shocked: :laugh:
Dusty
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Ya ever had a 1 LB Banty hen come off her nest intent on causing bodily harm to anything nearby? :shocked: :laugh:
Dusty
:grin: :grin: yep.
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Ya ever had a 1 LB Banty hen come off her nest intent on causing bodily harm to anything nearby? :shocked: :laugh:
Dusty
My brother had this pet goose that would strike terror in the hearts of anyone brave enough to exit an automobile in his farm yard. I also had firsthand experience as to the origin of the term 'being goosed'.
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We’ve had aggressive bantams, bossy geese, and overly curious turkeys at our farm at various times. Bad behavior results in a visit to the “killing cone” and the “drum plucker...” Somehow, insolent birds are tastier than docile ones.
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As a youngster in the outback wilds of TX I have had some unpleasant encounters with geese, and I agree with RK on the eagles, but Turkeys can be vicious! Beware if you encounter a flock of these birds.
Actually any wild animal even those that are slightly domesticated can be dangerous if threatened!
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A friend of mine was the caretaker of a nearby estate. He started feeding wild turkeys cracked corn and a large male gobbler became quite aggressive unless you had something to offer. Then one day they stopped receiving the mail and as it turned out the mailman had gotten out of his truck with a package and got ravaged by the wild beast. He refused to deliver the mail because he was scared shitless of the thing. Didn't end well for the gobbler, caretaker's got a job to do. :grin:
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OK, quick Turkey story.
I was 15 yo and out checking fences on foot when I encountered s flock of Turkeys. One of the big gobblers rushed me with bad intent (!) and I took off running cause I knew they could be a hand full in a fight. For about 100 yards I was keeping my distance but after that he started gaining on me.
So I stopped and turned around, started yelling and waving my arms and he stopped for a moment then started to come closer with head bobbing up and down as he sized? me up.
I figured this was going to get ugly so I pulled my pistol (1851 navy .36 cap and ball). As I started to raise it for a shot the gobbler abruptly turned 90 degrees and ran for the near by brush and disappeared.(smart!)
No shots fired as I only had 5 shots and I didn't want to waste them unless it was point blank sure thing.
Been wary of Turkeys ever since.
Be warned!
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Ya ever had a 1 LB Banty hen come off her nest intent on causing bodily harm to anything nearby? :shocked: :laugh:
Dusty
Not a lot of experience with tame fowl, actually, 'tho we did harvest a rather cocky rooster (pun intended) with the Cali II once (Guzzi content) - he won't do that again.....
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As a youngster in the outback wilds of TX I have had some unpleasant encounters with geese, and I agree with RK on the eagles, but Turkeys can be vicious! Beware if you encounter a flock of these birds.
Actually any wild animal even those that are slightly domesticated can be dangerous if threatened!
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Tame animal protecting what he's been taught by humans is his territory - Fair enough, I'll work around them. Guineas or geese in a yard, dog on the access road, OK, I'm on his turf.
Wild animal doing ANYTHING but running hard away from me, or threatening me or mine in ANY way, he's dinner if edible, SS&S if not.
Gotta respect the food chain; it's the law.
Lannis
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Recipe for tough game birds:
After cleaning and plucking or vice versa. Have tomatoes, onions, garlic, potatoes in the portions that you want and at least one green papaya. Clean and prep all veggies for cutting. Chunk cut all veggies. Chunk cut up fowl. Place in pot. Add veggies. Add water to level of stuff in the pot. Put cover on. Bring to a boil. Lower heat to lowest setting and simmer. Taste broth. Add Salt & pepper to taste. Let simmer for at least an hour. The green papaya is used like a squash. The papain in the papaya will tenderize the meat. You could stuff all of the mess into a slow cooker. Works for pork too. :food: :food: :food: :drool: Serve with green toss salad and your favorite carb.
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Recipe for tough game birds:
After cleaning and plucking or vice versa. Have tomatoes, onions, garlic, potatoes in the portions that you want and at least one green papaya. Clean and prep all veggies for cutting. Chunk cut all veggies. Chunk cut up fowl. Place in pot. Add veggies. Add water to level of stuff in the pot. Put cover on. Bring to a boil. Lower heat to lowest setting and simmer. Taste broth. Add Salt & pepper to taste. Let simmer for at least an hour. The green papaya is used like a squash. The papain in the papaya will tenderize the meat. You could stuff all of the mess into a slow cooker. Works for pork too. :food: :food: :food: :drool: Serve with green toss salad and your favorite carb.
That's a good way to cook things that could otherwise be tough.
If you "boil" that bird, he'll end up tough and stringy. Same as a salt-cured ham - if you "boil" it at 212 degF, it won't be tender and it will "drive" the salt into the ham instead of leaching some of it out.
The trick is to have the water at less than 212 degF but MORE than the 175 degF that you need to bring the meat to in order to cook it well. Bubbling, it's too hot - if it's too cool, it won't cook.
Thermometer! The cook's secret weapon ....
Lannis
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Bringing it to a boil only raises the temp in the "mess". Should shift to simmer after the water boils. The slow cooking or stewing work with time. :1: on the thermometer for internal temps. on the the meat. After the long simmer, the meat should fall off the bone. :thumb:
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Why can an owl rotate its head almost 360 degrees? Let's see if the owl cognoscenti know this one!
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To watch out for turkey ambushes.
I would guess that there eyes are fixed so the need to move there head?
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In my part of the world at midnight I can see the Southern Cross in the night sky about 20 degrees above the horizon.
So I'm looking AWAY from the Sun into the direction of the Earth's shadow....
No worries !!!
So here I am now 6 months later and it's night time .
The Earth has completed half an orbit of the Sun and so I'm now looking at the night sky at midnight into the Earth's shadow.
I MUST be looking out into space in the opposite direction as before, but I can STILL see the Southern Cross in the same part of the sky.
??????????????????????????????????? :angry:
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Our Christmas turkey photo-bombing my Vintage. He weighs over 40 pounds at 8 months old and his feet look like they belong on a Velociraptor. His smaller brother dressed out at 34.5 lbs at Thanksgiving...
(http://image.ibb.co/hN3pvG/01_F6_A7_B7_9_E74_4429_BBDF_E38_F3_F1_CF2_CD.jpg)
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Why do I see on American TV, drivers operating their cars with the seat belt hanging on the hook?
I could name hundreds, American Pickers, The Middle, Cops !!!!!.
AND....
Just the other day I was watching a cop show produced here in Oz and there was a shot looking into the windscreen and something looked strange, then I realised...
The steering wheel was on the right (Aussie side).
Watching so much American TV, left hand drive no longer looks odd on screen.
However when I see an American car in the street Left hand Drive does look strange...
Dunno.
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Great picture :thumb: Beautiful cali.
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Turkey pluckers have a big job...
A very large bird
We used to eat Pheasant on our Estate and my Dad used to pluck them.
But when Dad was away transporting muck in a truck, I plucked them,
I hated the job.
I just told people I'd do it under sufference, I'd tell them
"I'm not the Pheasant Plucker
I'm the Pheasant Plucker's Son,
I'm only plucking Pheasants,
'Till the Pheasant Plucker comes..
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Great picture :thumb:
Yeah, great image - red/black/white - red/black/white
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Recipe for tough game birds:
After cleaning and plucking or vice versa. Have tomatoes, onions, garlic, potatoes in the portions that you want and at least one green papaya. Clean and prep all veggies for cutting. Chunk cut all veggies. Chunk cut up fowl. Place in pot. Add veggies. Add water to level of stuff in the pot. Put cover on. Bring to a boil. Lower heat to lowest setting and simmer. Taste broth. Add Salt & pepper to taste. Let simmer for at least an hour. The green papaya is used like a squash. The papain in the papaya will tenderize the meat. You could stuff all of the mess into a slow cooker. Works for pork too. :food: :food: :food: :drool: Serve with green toss salad and your favorite carb.
You forgot ; "and right before serving remove the bird and throw it outside for the dogs" :grin:
Dusty
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Yeah, great image - red/black/white - red/black/white
Yeah I really like them, big and strong and will perform all day tirelessly.
You could get to like one pretty easily I reckon and develop a good lasting relationship.
No doubt you have to treat it the right way or it could turn around and bite you,but that's to be expected I guess.
Oh and BTW, that's a lovely Guzzi as well.. :evil:
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The Earth has completed half an orbit of the Sun and so I'm now looking at the night sky at midnight into the Earth's shadow.
I MUST be looking out into space in the opposite direction as before, but I can STILL see the Southern Cross in the same part of the sky.
??????????????????????????????????? :angry:
Well, you know, it's only about 186,000,000 miles from one side of the Earth's orbit to the other.
Comparing that to the distance from Earth to the stars that make up the Southern Cross, it's like moving your chair from one side of your window to the other and STILL being able to see the tree on the next hill .... !
The big question is how you operate upside down without all the blood rushing to your head.
Lannis
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Why do I see on American TV, drivers operating their cars with the seat belt hanging on the hook?
I could name hundreds, American Pickers, The Middle, Cops !!!!!.
AND....
Just the other day I was watching a cop show produced here in Oz and there was a shot looking into the windscreen and something looked strange, then I realised...
The steering wheel was on the right (Aussie side).
Watching so much American TV, left hand drive no longer looks odd on screen.
However when I see an American car in the street Left hand Drive does look strange...
Dunno.
One thing you will never see on a TV show or in a movie, and that is someone hopping onto a motorcycle, pulling on a helmet ... AND BUCKLING IT! No one ever buckles their helmet; I guess no viewers have the patience to wait 8 seconds while a rider fiddles with a pair of D-rings ....
On "Down Under" TV shows and commercials, do they ever show anyone actually taking a bite of something and chewing it? On USA commercials, they never do. They press their lips up against the Big Mac or Wendy-burger and pretend to bite it, but it's obvious that they never do. I'm shocked when I watch British TV and people are actually biting off food into their mouths and chewing it. British actors always look so much more realistic than American actors, many of whom look like they were built in a model shop out of plastic and Bondo .....
Lannis
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Well, you know, it's only about 186,000,000 miles from one side of the Earth's orbit to the other.
Comparing that to the distance from Earth to the stars that make up the Southern Cross, it's like moving your chair from one side of your window to the other and STILL being able to see the tree on the next hill .... !
The big question is how you operate upside down without all the blood rushing to your head.
Lannis
All quite true Lannis, but you are looking diametrically opposite in direction six months later, you haven't just moved laterally, you have essentially "turned around"!
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Well, you know, it's only about 186,000,000 miles from one side of the Earth's orbit to the
The big question is how you operate upside down without all the blood rushing to your head.
Lannis
It doesn't mate, it mainly comes to rest down around the nether regions to service the parts of your body that do your thinking for you...
I gave mine a name, because I didn't want a complete stranger making all my important decisions for me!
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All quite true Lannis, but you are looking diametrically opposite in direction six months later, you haven't just moved laterally, you have essentially "turned around"!
The "Southern Cross" is "in the same part of the sky" at midnight in June and in December, but it's not in the same place, and not in the same orientation. In June, the "Southern Cross" is on one side of the South Celestial pole, oriented one way, and in December, it's on the other side of the South Celestial Pole oriented 180 degrees from its June position.
It's like our "Little Dipper" that contains "Polaris". You can see it every single night of the year, at any time, in "the same place", but not in the same orientation as it moves around the pole star ...
So it's not like it's not moving - it's close enough to the South Pole in the sky so that you can always see it and it never sets ....
Lannis
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Why can an owl rotate its head almost 360 degrees? Let's see if the owl cognoscenti know this one!
They have very limber necks is why. The question is -- why do they need to?
To watch out for turkey ambushes.
I would guess that there eyes are fixed so the need to move there head?
This. The owl's head is so stuffed full of eyes that there is no room for eye muscles.
We had a lot of banties when I was growing up. My sister named some of them. Bad idea, since my sister gave them the same love she did the horses, and a brace of banties make a fair dinner. Two were named Macbeth and Lady Macbeth. Macbeth was an atypical rooster in that he didn't like most of the hens in the flock. He had no problem with other roosters in the henhouse. He did have a thing for Lady Macbeth though, and she returned his affection. They were paired like geese instead of chickens, and as long as the other residents didn't mess with his lady, Bantytown was a happy place. Mac and the missus liked to wander into the house and roost on the mantle clock, which sat between statues of Jesus and the Virgin Mary. The birds would nap up there side-by-side -- for no longer than half an hour at a time. When the chimes went off every half-hour, those two birds would literally hit the ceiling, squawking and flapping like they were being attacked by a skunk. They'd sulk around on the floor all outraged and fluffed up for a few minutes and then return to their perch -- until next time -- like clockwork, you might say. Every half-hour the chimes were a complete surprise, and after every episode they'd set up for the rinse and repeat.
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They have very limber necks is why. The question is -- why do they need to?
This. The owl's head is so stuffed full of eyes that there is no room for eye muscles.
We had a lot of banties when I was growing up. My sister named some of them. Bad idea, since my sister gave them the same love she did the horses, and a brace of banties make a fair dinner. Two were named Macbeth and Lady Macbeth. Macbeth was an atypical rooster in that he didn't like most of the hens in the flock. He had no problem with other roosters in the henhouse. He did have a thing for Lady Macbeth though, and she returned his affection. They were paired like geese instead of chickens, and as long as the other residents didn't mess with his lady, Bantytown was a happy place. Mac and the missus liked to wander into the house and roost on the mantle clock, which sat between statues of Jesus and the Virgin Mary. The birds would nap up there side-by-side -- for no longer than half an hour at a time. When the chimes went off every half-hour, those two birds would literally hit the ceiling, squawking and flapping like they were being attacked by a skunk. They'd sulk around on the floor all outraged and fluffed up for a few minutes and then return to their perch -- until next time -- like clockwork, you might say. Every half-hour the chimes were a complete surprise, and after every episode they'd set up for the rinse and repeat.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
One of these days I'll figure out which there to use. their. or is it thayre, how bout thair? :huh:
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The "Southern Cross" is "in the same part of the sky" at midnight in June and in December, but it's not in the same place, and not in the same orientation. In June, the "Southern Cross" is on one side of the South Celestial pole, oriented one way, and in December, it's on the other side of the South Celestial Pole oriented 180 degrees from its June position.
It's like our "Little Dipper" that contains "Polaris". You can see it every single night of the year, at any time, in "the same place", but not in the same orientation as it moves around the pole star ...
So it's not like it's not moving - it's close enough to the South Pole in the sky so that you can always see it and it never sets ....
Lannis
I can tell you know what you're talking about, but I'm a fair way from getting a grasp
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I can tell you know what you're talking about ....
STOP! Leave it right there, don't say another word .... :laugh:
Lannis
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Recipe for tough game birds:
After cleaning and plucking or vice versa. Have tomatoes, onions, garlic, potatoes in the portions that you want and at least one green papaya. Clean and prep all veggies for cutting. Chunk cut all veggies. Chunk cut up fowl. Place in pot. Add veggies. Add water to level of stuff in the pot. Put cover on. Bring to a boil. Lower heat to lowest setting and simmer. Taste broth. Add Salt & pepper to taste. Let simmer for at least an hour. The green papaya is used like a squash. The papain in the papaya will tenderize the meat. You could stuff all of the mess into a slow cooker. Works for pork too. :food: :food: :food: :drool: Serve with green toss salad and your favorite carb.
Or...
Throw the prepared bird in the oven, put a brick on the lower shelf, when you can get a skewer in the brick, the bird is ready
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STOP! Leave it right there, don't say another word .... :laugh:
Lannis
I might be making my mistake thinking that the spiral galaxy spins on an axis that is aligned with that of our solar system.
If not, then it's easier to start to understand.
Put simply, maybe the fact is that the axis through te sun is pointing towards the Southern Cross more so than not.
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I rolled over, looked at the clock, thought about this post and wondered why Humans are the only one of God's creatures that worry about time. I mean the dog or the cat could care less, just feed me and let me out to pee.
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I don't "worry" about time but maybe without time we wouldn't exist..no?
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I rolled over, looked at the clock, thought about this post and wondered why Humans are the only one of God's creatures that worry about time. I mean the dog or the cat could care less, just feed me and let me out to pee.
A dog's life would be great for some sorts of humans, I suppose. Think about how simple it is.
"If you can't #### it or eat it, then pee on it and walk away."
Sound good to you? Then go for it! :thumb:
Lannis
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I rolled over, looked at the clock, thought about this post and wondered why Humans are the only one of God's creatures that worry about time. I mean the dog or the cat could care less, just feed me and let me out to pee.
Okay here's one 'cos we're on this thread.
If the dog or cat were not able to care any less than they currently do...
Would it not be more correct to use the phrase..
"I mean the dog or the cat COULDN'T care less"..
If they COULD care less, then that would mean that they held some level of care...
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Over time, the term "I couldn't care less" has been shortened to "I could care." <shrug>
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Americans love to customize things...the English language, for example.
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Americans love to customize things...the English language, for example.
Nothing wrong with that,other than it conveys the opposite meaning to the intended one.
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Americans love to customize things...the English language, for example.
Fo'shizzle!
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Customize....lil 'dat....wot evahs brah! :grin:
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Why can an owl rotate its head almost 360 degrees? Let's see if the owl cognoscenti know this one!
It's that way so you can grab it by the head and rapidly swing it in a circle without breaking its' neck.
Try it, I dare you.
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I have often wondered why when I fart I usually don't sheet my pants? :boozing:
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I can tell you know what you're talking about, but I'm a fair way from getting a grasp
Hold your coffee mug in your left hand, straight out to the side. Now, climb out of your left ear, walk along your arm, climb down into the coffee mug and look out the window in the bottom at your shoes. Six months later, transfer the coffee mug to your right hand and hold it straight out again. Climb out of the sun's right ear, walk along the arm, and down into the coffee mug earth to look out the same Australian window, and you can still see your shoes.
When you look at the Southern Cross, you are essentially looking "down" in relation to the Earth's orbit around the sun. You're not looking out radially along the plane of the orbit.
Does this help?
Howard
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Why can an owl rotate its head almost 360 degrees? Let's see if the owl cognoscenti know this one!
Why? Because their eyes are both towards the front of their head for binocular vision, hence better depth perception, & as was mentioned, their eyes are fixed (no eye muscles). How? Their vertebrae pivot on one another at a single point rather than 2 points as ours do. The cartilage (discs) are much thicker, relatively, & more flexible than in other types of animals. Also, their arteries run along the centerline of the spine rather than at the sides as our carotids do, & they actually have backup arteries which continue to supply blood to the brain when their twisting shuts off blood flow in the main carotid arteries. The actual range of motion for most owls, & many other raptors such as hawks & falcons, is about 270 degrees.
An owl's eye also has a larger retina relative to its ocular opening than the eye of most other animals, to accommodate more photoreceptive cells for night vision, creating a funnel shaped orbit.
Prolly more than anyone wanted to know.... sorry...
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It's okay. Some of us need the schooling. Didn't know about the 2 pts. vs 1 in the vetebrae. Thanks.
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"I want to fly ,
like a ...Turkey?"
Somehow that doesn't quite work :shocked: :huh:
Dusty
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I have often wondered why when I fart I usually don't sheet my pants? :boozing:
USUALLY ????!!!
But while we're pedalling toilet humour, that's an astute observation that has doubtless been the subject of "exhaustive" testing over the journey.
I've wondered that also..
How does your body know if the "arrival" is gaseous or solid, you'd think that pressure against the colon would be registered in the nerve endings and the signal would be sent to the brain and the old grey matter would be unable to distinguish between the two.
Clearly this is not how it is, in the vast majority of cases.
However I digress...
On this very topic, if you are in polite company and you feel the dreaded pressure and are not in a position to operate the valve, presuming that you have sufficient control to hold back the hectopascals, you will usually find that the impending disaster is avoided and the pressure goes away, but here's the question on everyone's " lips".
WHERE DOES THE PRESSURE GO ?
If the pressure back up in the system is less than the now thwarted expulsion, (as it would have to be to allow the gas to retreat backwards through the system), what was the force at play that initially drove the vile package toward the outward hatch in the first place.
A vexing question to say the least...
Also on the earlier topic of not being able to distinguish between gas and solid..
Next time you are in the appropriate place conducting a normal ablution, take a small note pad with you and see if you can guess which is which and keep a note of your level of success.
I'm guessing it'll be a 50/50 thing, so the concious mind cannot distinguish between the two, yet the earlier example of correct etiquette surrounding such near disasters, suggests the subconscious can.
Just a thought...
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I knew this would come full circle back to soap eventually. :laugh: :laugh:
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I knew this would come full circle back to soap eventually. :laugh: :laugh:
Sort of Monty Pythonesque..
Also, depending on your level of skill, soap may or may not be required.
One of the better threads going around at the moment I'd suggest.
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No pic's PLEASE
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Hold your coffee mug in your left hand, straight out to the side. Now, climb out of your left ear, walk along your arm, climb down into the coffee mug and look out the window in the bottom at your shoes. Six months later, transfer the coffee mug to your right hand and hold it straight out again. Climb out of the sun's right ear, walk along the arm, and down into the coffee mug earth to look out the same Australian window, and you can still see your shoes.
When you look at the Southern Cross, you are essentially looking "down" in relation to the Earth's orbit around the sun. You're not looking out radially along the plane of the orbit.
Does this help?
Howard
Ok Howard.
I can't claim to have walked out into a beam of enlightenment, but yes, that opens a bit of a door for me thank you very much.
So the axis of rotation is biased toward the SC as it were, if I'm understanding your explanation.
I love this stuff...
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No pic's PLEASE
I've lost my mirror, but my Go Pro is on the charger.
Now if I could just find a pen...