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Title: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on December 08, 2017, 09:19:03 PM
 It will happen at sun down on the 21st of Dec. I do not know why the world does not recognize this fact.
And fact it is and has been since the earth began to orbit the sun in a tilted axis.
It is the time when the day ends with the shortest daylight hours of the year, and begins to have longer days following.
I suppose it is because of some arcane idea from the Vatican or something that we don't count this as the beginning of the new year.
To me it only makes sense that this day represents the end of one year and the beginning of another.
I like to refer to it as hump day, as in over the hump and days begin to get longer. And no close minded religion or politician can prove it otherwise.
This is of course only true for those of us in the northern hemisphere. Those who live upside down don't have this particular thing happen until six months later.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: twowings on December 08, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
I'll drink to that.... :boozing:
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Lannis on December 08, 2017, 09:42:18 PM
It will happen at sun down on the 21st of Dec. I do not know why the world does not recognize this fact.


The Roman Senate decreed January 1st as the first day of the New Year in 153 BC, and it went from there.

You can celebrate the beginning of the New Year any time you want to, including December 21st.   You can observe lunar months if you want to, rather than some artificial 30-day month.

What difference does it make when someone else wants to celebrate New Year?   Do your own.

The naval day begins at 12:00 Noon every day; I think I'd like it decreed that it start at 6:00 because that's about when the sun comes up.

And why do we drive on the right side of the road here and left side in the Commonwealth countries?   I think everyone ought to drive in the middle, it only makes sense.

And not only that, but .....
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Orange Guzzi on December 08, 2017, 10:13:45 PM
I'll say it again, what is it with humans and keeping track of time?  None of God's other creature care. 
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Lannis on December 08, 2017, 10:25:36 PM
I'll say it again, what is it with humans and keeping track of time?  None of God's other creature care.

Other creatures don't charge compound interest, or have drag races or football games.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Arizona Wayne on December 08, 2017, 11:54:23 PM
Well here in Aridzona unlike the rest of you in the USA, we don't change to daylight saving time.  Far as I'm concerned the rest of this USA is an hour off half the year!!  :boxing:
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: flip on December 09, 2017, 12:33:28 AM
Well here in Aridzona unlike the rest of you in the USA, we don't change to daylight saving time.  Far as I'm concerned the rest of this USA is an hour off half the year!!  :boxing:

It could be argued that we're all a bit off here...
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Arizona Wayne on December 09, 2017, 12:52:43 AM
It could be argued that we're all a bit off here...


I remember in `99 riding from norCal to Iowa for the MGNOC National when we stopped for the night in Nebraska we were informed that state had 2 different times since it was in the middle of 2 different time zones.  :huh:  At the Rally we didn't get 2up long distance plaque because we weren't on a Moto Guzzi (Suzuki VX800 instead). Good thing I wasn't expecting to get it.  :smiley:
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: ITSec on December 09, 2017, 01:56:49 AM
I'll say it again, what is it with humans and keeping track of time?  None of God's other creature care.

Well, one can point out all the creatures that hibernate, and those that spawn by the full moon only in certain months, and those that have other rhythms that are at least as calendar-accurate as most of our feeble efforts...  :wink:
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: reidy on December 09, 2017, 03:40:59 AM
Sasquatch Jim, on the logic you supplied does that mean that those of us that live in the southern hemisphere should have new years in just over 6 months time?

Steve
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on December 09, 2017, 11:01:43 AM
to Ready, Yes.

To Lannis,  The reason the English drive on the left side of the road is because their custom began so that you would pass an on coming person on the side of your sword hand.
 Here in the new world, our custom began with the rifle laid across the horse in with the
 front of you with the muzzle pointing left.  The better to apply it to an oncoming person if needed.  Most of Europe followed our lead, the Brits just kept a stiff upper lip as if the still carried a sword.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Lannis on December 09, 2017, 11:10:14 AM

To Lannis,  The reason the English drive on the left side of the road is because their custom began so that you would pass an on coming person on the side of your sword hand.
 Here in the new world, our custom began with the rifle laid across the horse in with the
 front of you with the muzzle pointing left.  The better to apply it to an oncoming person if needed. 

As good an explanation as any I've heard ....
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Sheepdog on December 09, 2017, 01:32:35 PM
The Christian calendar began on December 3rd; the first day of Advent...
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Tom on December 09, 2017, 04:24:58 PM
As good an explanation as any I've heard ....

I got a better answer.  It's 'cuz that's how the cars are in that country.  :tongue: :tongue: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Tom on December 09, 2017, 04:26:40 PM
Other creatures don't charge compound interest, or have drag races or football games.

Humans have hookers and they really keep track of time.   :grin:
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Pop on December 09, 2017, 06:23:32 PM
Sasquatch Jim, would you like to be the master of arms at the Winter equinox order of the Druid. We use a Festivos Pole and air our greviences. It doesn't last very long due to loin cloth is the mandatory dress.
I am a firm believer in the Solstaces.
Pop
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: johnr on December 09, 2017, 11:10:56 PM
Quote
This is of course only true for those of us in the northern hemisphere. Those who live upside down don't have this particular thing happen until six months later.

Why Jim, whats wrong with using the summer solstice like we always do.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: e.cleven on December 10, 2017, 07:41:25 AM
My little dog named Guzzi can tell time. She wakes me up about 6:30 in the morning and asks for a treat a 5:00 in the afternoon.
Takes her about two weeks to adjust to the time changes in spring and fall.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Lannis on December 10, 2017, 07:43:47 AM
My little dog named Guzzi can tell time. She wakes me up about 6:30 in the morning and asks for a treat a 5:00 in the afternoon.
Takes her about two weeks to adjust to the time changes in spring and fall.

Our Jack is exactly the same.   Jumps up on the bed to get us up at 6:15 every morning (varies a few minutes with the sun, but not much), and importunes us for his 5:00 snack each evening.   

If you forget, there's not doubt about exactly what he's asking for, and the time is spookily accurate ...

Lannis
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on December 10, 2017, 09:34:21 AM
Why Jim, whats wrong with using the summer solstice like we always do.

 We do.  We use your summer solstice.  Butt we don't stand upside down when doing it
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Mr Pootle on December 10, 2017, 09:43:45 AM
I do worry about about my friends on this forum. Maybe I’ll forward a link to a psychiatrist I know and see if he’s any suggestions.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: dl.allen on December 10, 2017, 10:17:53 AM
Love it
Most I have learned about history and sciences.

Kind of like the wildguzzi germs and steel book
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Muzz on December 10, 2017, 01:35:41 PM
I do worry about about my friends on this forum. Maybe I�ll forward a link to a psychiatrist I know and see if he�s any suggestions.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumb:
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: cruzziguzzi on December 10, 2017, 02:48:30 PM
I dig it. That always should have been the mark for the New Year.

What would we call a "Flat Earth Society" devoted to that?

"Axis Matters!"

"The Truth is in the Tilt"

"An Inconvenient Slant"


Todd.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: giusto on December 10, 2017, 03:38:52 PM
Other creatures don't charge compound interest, or have drag races or football games.

I'll say it again, what is it with humans and keeping track of time?  None of God's other creature care.


I beg to differ....biologica l clocks set in ecological timeframes seem to be as accurate as any time piece humans may have invented (ref: e.cleven's doggie guzzi) only for more defined/refined reason...life and death those that miss their alarm...a fluid continuum that is ridiculously accurate for the right reasons...that said "if your trains on time you can get to work by 9" Randy Bachman :)
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: oldbike54 on December 10, 2017, 03:42:30 PM
 ^^^

  :laugh: :shocked: :huh:

 I like it Frank  :bow:

 Dusty
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Arizona Wayne on December 10, 2017, 04:23:17 PM
Our Jack is exactly the same.   Jumps up on the bed to get us up at 6:15 every morning (varies a few minutes with the sun, but not much), and importunes us for his 5:00 snack each evening.   

If you forget, there's not doubt about exactly what he's asking for, and the time is spookily accurate ...

Lannis


My cat Scooter goes by the sunset to know when it's time for his wet food dinner.  :clock:
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Pop on December 10, 2017, 06:21:35 PM
Kirby, story is true. She painted a line and prevented accidents. What they didn't say was, she got run over twice painting those damn lines. LOL
As for the the time change , I can't believe people don't rise up and revolt.  I can see dealing with a 2 hour daylight change, but 4 hours is depressing.
Pop
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: TimmyTheHog on December 12, 2017, 01:51:45 AM
As there are forty different calendars to describe how the earth rotates and moves

I simply choose the one gives me more holidays...

As for new year’s coming in 2 weeks? I will drink to that!
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: perter on December 12, 2017, 04:07:02 AM
I fact the Christmas may be the pagan new year party.

In Danish, Christmas is "Jul" which is pronounced the same way as wheel (hjul) and probably came from ancient times when the vikings celebtrated the turn of the year (wheel) and the sun gaining power again.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Tom on December 12, 2017, 11:31:29 AM
The new year in is parts of the world will begin Feb. 18, 2018. The Chinese calendar says it's the year of the dog, 4715.  For business, they use the calendar that Americans use.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Sheepdog on December 12, 2017, 11:56:07 AM
Dirty injector nozzle/s?
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Lannis on December 12, 2017, 01:00:32 PM
  For business, they use the calendar that Americans use.

And everyone else uses.   Calendars are meant to sort years out into reasonably even bits, so that contracts can be made, interest earned, loans made ... and none of that has anything to do with when the shortest day is or the longest day in what part of the world.....

Lannis
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on December 12, 2017, 02:02:03 PM
 Spoil sport.
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Lannis on December 12, 2017, 03:02:11 PM
Spoil sport.

But just LOOK at the subjects that this thread has touched on.  Dogs, hookers, cats, driving on the left, psychiatrists, looneys ... sounds pretty sporty to me!

Lannis
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Tom on December 12, 2017, 03:19:07 PM
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: The new year begins in two weeks
Post by: Muzz on December 12, 2017, 06:08:04 PM
But just LOOK at the subjects that this thread has touched on.  Dogs, hookers, cats, driving on the left, psychiatrists, looneys ... sounds pretty sporty to me!

Lannis

And don't forget the fact that New Year starts in two weeks time. :grin: