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Title: 97 Saab leaking head gasket ngc
Post by: steven c on December 15, 2017, 09:51:15 AM
 My wife's 97 900s which has been a great car, head gasket is leaking around the head coolant and oil. This seems to me common from what I have read on Saabsite  they say fix is to lossen the head nuts tighten to 44 lb. then turn 90 degrees more. My mechanic is leery of me doing this, thinks I could snap a bolt. Any thoughts?
http://www.thesaabsite.com/faqs/900-1994-98/FAQ--engine-category--head-gasket-leak-%28retorque-headbolts%29.html?id=763
Title: Re: 97 Saab leaking head gasket ngc
Post by: RinkRat II on December 15, 2017, 10:14:57 AM

      Sounds like a simple fix HOWEVER, these bolts are probably Torque to Yeild bolts and should never be reused. Once they have been in service they will never go back to their original length and torque setting and you run the risk of them breaking. Bite the bullet and go for a new gasket and head bolts. Pretty cheap  for peace of mind.

         Paul B :boozing:
Title: Re: 97 Saab leaking head gasket ngc
Post by: mojoe on December 15, 2017, 12:36:50 PM
It probably aint worth the price of a gasket and head bolts!!

I would throw in a can of Kalimex K Seal if they sell it where you are, and see if it fixes it. done it on a couple of cars and they stopped leaking?
Title: Re: 97 Saab leaking head gasket ngc
Post by: Tom on December 15, 2017, 12:45:05 PM
What's the torque to go the extra 90 degrees?  I'd loosen all the bolts then re-torque to the factory settings.  If it still leaks then new head gasket and new bolts.
Title: Re: 97 Saab leaking head gasket ngc
Post by: Steve Scott on December 15, 2017, 03:56:17 PM
There's a TSB for this, but it's for the 9-5 models. Saab seems OK with reusing the bolts up to 5 times, implying that these are "torque-to-stretch" (like all bolts actually), rather than "torque-to-yield". I'd give it a careful go because it's easy... but I'd have a new head gasket set and bolts nearby.


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Title: Re: 97 Saab leaking head gasket ngc
Post by: skippy on December 21, 2017, 08:52:38 PM
I had a 93 900S years ago. Great car. One of the quirks of owning a Saab is the diligence required in maintenance. If you check your owners manual it will state that the coolant needs to be replaced annually. I don,t remember the coolant required but do not deviate from the manufactures recommendation. Those motors have a lot of different alloy parts in the water side and no one coolant can protect them all, so Saab says to replace the coolant annually in order to keep the corrosion inhibitors working.
Now, back to the problem. I too had a head leak. I discovered it on a Wednesday but couldn't doing anything about it until Friday. I put some of that stop leak crap in for the mean time and it worked! Friday night comes around and I roll into the garage and wait for the motor to cool. A few hours later I had the head off and slung under my arm walking down to the machine shop around the corner. The head had a small warp in it (it happens easily with a blown head gasket, so take care) and the shop milled the head flat taking .008".
The next morning I picked up the head and a new gasket and put it all back together. I reused the head bolts. After reassembly the cold cranking compression was within a PSI of all cylinders (before disassembly the number 3 cylinder was lower by 15 PSI).
Back on the road that car was super spunky. The slight mill work gave it a small bump in compression and it showed. That car was a blast to drive again. However, when winter came around, My heater core was plugged up with what I suspect was that stop lead crap.
And unfortunately, changing a heater core on a Saab 900 is a bigger pain in the ass than pulling the head.

Just some food for thought,
Skippy