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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rough Edge racing on January 12, 2018, 07:56:57 AM
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I bought this lump from a local hillbilly, 81 Honda 750C to work on during the winter...Paid $750 for it, a good running but ugly bike..I figured about $2000 including the purchase price for the project....
Disassembled the engine to fix oil leaks and replace rings and guide seals due to age...Adapted a 96 Honda 750 VFR front end and dual disc brakes and 17 inch wheel..late 80's VRF750 rear wheel. New Avon 120-17 front and 150-18 rear tires. The suspension geometry has been altered to be more like a modern sport bike.....I cut off a pile of unneeded brackets and junk from the frame...modified a 71 Triumph 650 rear fender to fit...I made the rear set pegs and controls from stock parts and heim joints...reworked the stock wiring loom.small Lithium iron battery.Spiffy carbon fiber muffler for 45 bucks shipped to my door from Ebay...My wife polished the engine covers....
Got 100 bucks left to spend... :wink:
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This morning it looks like this.....I just finished rebuilding rejetting the carbs
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Silk purse out of a pigs ear...nice work
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Bike projects are the best. Seeing that engine and frame reminds me of my '81 CB750F. I did a similar resto of one that had been left outside a while back in the eighties. Most of the damage was cosmetic, but I got the bike for only $550. I had a tough time with the jetting (hard to get it just right), clutch (it tended to slip when the weather was hot), and the stator on that bike, but it lasted for 9 years. It wasn't exactly my dream machine, but it allowed me to ride during the years when my kids were my number one priority...
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Yes, the stator...I notice the bike has what looks like an aftermarket stator and regulator.. Jetting can be fussy with exhaust headers and no air box...I made longer collector pipe between the header and muffler to hopefully increase midrange power...And a Dynojet kit for the carbs....CV carbs can be fussy with Pod air filters...I have pods on the 96 Monster 900 with Mikuni CV's and was told it will never run correctly...After jetting changes, float level adjustments and proper location for the CV chamber air vents it runs better that a stock Ducati...
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Good for you! :thumb: :cool: Honda 750's, as we all know, are solid, reliable motorcycles.
For maximum market value, return it as close to "stock" as possible...just my humble opinion... :wink:
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Good for you! :thumb: :cool: Honda 750's, as we all know, are solid, reliable motorcycles.
For maximum market value, return it as close to "stock" as possible...just my humble opinion... :wink:
The pile of cutoff stock brackets says it will always be a "special"... :evil:
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BTW: the rearsets are brilliant. I like them better than the original Honda (accessory) rear-sets! That is where those controls should have been to begin with...
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The pile of cutoff stock brackets says it will always be a "special"... :evil:
A basic stock look, ("a special...") with upgraded performance "mods" is fine... :thumb: :cool:
Only the vintage purists would disagree... :wink:
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BTW: the rearsets are brilliant. I like them better than the original Honda (accessory) rear-sets! That is where those controls should have been to begin with...
Thanks, here's the shifter side...It's stock parts modified and welded to the frame and two rod ends and length of tubing.. The hardest part is getting them in a good position for reasonable riding control and comfort..The side cover will be left off so it'll look like what you see
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I'm sure you're keeping the Comstar wheels. They look pretty good painted all black...and they're exceedingly strong.
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I had a almost new CB 750 custom back in the day. Great bike and in its time one of the fastest. At least in my neck of the woods:)
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Respect the work, but putting lipstick on a pig.............
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Nice! What are you shooting for? I really like the vintage superbike look and you are pretty much there.
Here's some inspiration!
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I'm sure you're keeping the Comstar wheels. They look pretty good painted all black...and they're exceedingly strong.
The photos show the narrow Comstar wheels replaced by 90's one piece wider cast wheels with much larger brakes painted black...The look is minimalist, a mixture of styling clues from from what ever I like...
A 1971 Triumph 650 rear fender ,150/70-18 tire...The license plate mounts under the right tail light...I installed the carbs last night... The engine is ready to start..
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Funny...I’m doing a restoration on a ‘71 Triumph TR6R, myself. Where did you source the cast wheels? I expect you had enough chain clearance as the tire is only 10mm closer to the chain than the stocker. I’m fascinated so far and anxious to see your finished machine. I have an old XS650 in the stables that will eventually get the semi-custom treatment (after the Triumph and the ‘63 Bug), so I appreciate you sharing your methods...
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Funny...I�m doing a restoration on a �71 Triumph TR6R, myself. Where did you source the cast wheels? I expect you had enough chain clearance as the tire is only 10mm closer to the chain than the stocker. I�m fascinated so far and anxious to see your finished machine. I have an old XS650 in the stables that will eventually get the semi-custom treatment (after the Triumph and the �63 Bug), so I appreciate you sharing your methods...
Front wheel is from a 1991 Honda 750VRF, 17 x 3.5, fitted with 1996 300mm brake discs...Rear wheel is 1988 Honda VRF750 ,18 x 3.5..I had to make spacers to fit the front wheel on the 1996 VRF front forks and calipers...Since I couln't use a speedo drive on the front wheel, I used it on the rear wheel like a old Triumph...I had to spread the swingarm legs outward 1/2 inch using a hydraulic "porta power" so all the parts would fit and when the rear wheel was inline with the front wheel, the rear sprocket lined up with the trans sprocket..About 1/2 inch between the #530 O ring chain and the tire as a result of bending the swingarm leg...
The wheels I chose where what was available for reasonable cost and the size to mount tires I wanted to get the "look" I wanted.
I build a bike like this about every two years...Last few have been a 84 Guzzi Cali and a 70 Triumph..I usually sell then after a year or two of riding to make room for a new project...My regular rider right now is a 96 Ducati 900 Monster with some minor modifications that I won't sell...
You might be interested in this 70 Triumph 650 I built a few years ago....Suzuki sport bike Showa forks and a bunch of other modifications...The engine has 750 kit and so on....I sold it .............
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Lots of custom-fabbed stuff on the Triumph also, I see. My project is a great deal less creative. The ‘71 650s were unique, due to the funky-tall frame and the big wide seat. The wire fender stays and headlight mounts are unusual, too. Sooo...I decided I’d return it to stock; warts and all.
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Nice job Rough Edge! I love low budget projects like that. I also love 80s superbikes. Please keep us posted on you very interesting build. :popcorn:
Rick.
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Well, I'm working on a seat and front fender but more or less it's ready go...
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Well, I'm working on a seat and front fender but more or less it's ready go...
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How about a solo bicycle type saddle, large one like a old police bike.
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How about a solo bicycle type saddle, large one like a old police bike.
I did try a "Bobber" solo seat but I didn't like the way it felt, like "naked" sitting on the bike because there was no way to grip the seat with your thighs..not secure feeling............ I saw an original solo seat from a circa 1990 Sportster that shaped more like a short cafe racer seat with a slight hump in the back that should be good...
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I did try a "Bobber" solo seat but I didn't like the way it felt, like "naked" sitting on the bike because there was no way to grip the seat with your thighs..not secure feeling............ I saw an original solo seat from a circa 1990 Sportster that shaped more like a short cafe racer seat with a slight hump in the back that should be good...
Yea a solo poli e type of saddle is a different type of ridding. It’s sitting on the bike and not in the bike. I would like to see one on it and see what it looks like. Back in 81, as a motor officer we used the cb900 custom with vetter fairings and bags. They were great bikes for their time as the only other option in our part of the country was harleys, which we switched from.
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Yea a solo poli e type of saddle is a different type of ridding. It�s sitting on the bike and not in the bike. I would like to see one on it and see what it looks like. Back in 81, as a motor officer we used the cb900 custom with vetter fairings and bags. They were great bikes for their time as the only other option in our part of the country was harleys, which we switched from.
Your wish is my command :grin: I just happen to have an old saddle type seat from a Honda Shadow...While it feels ok just sitting on the bike, with the set back foot pegs and slightly aggressive riding position, it feels awkward to me with feet and hands on the controls...The bike is a stripped down hot rod and not for long rides and I prefer the look of a more compact seat like on the Ducati Monster in the background..
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Your wish is my command :grin: I just happen to have an old saddle type seat from a Honda Shadow...While it feels ok just sitting on the bike, with the set back foot pegs and slightly aggressive riding position, it feels awkward to me with feet and hands on the controls...The bike is a stripped down hot rod and not for long rides and I prefer the look of a more compact seat like on the Ducati Monster in the background..
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I was thinking more on the lines of the old big bicycle seat with the springs exposed at the rear. That seat looks ok but I believe the bicycle type with springs wound look better. Can you get that one in your mine’s eye?
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Well Tony, if you want to fool around with a tractor type seat I have one :thumb:
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Well Tony, if you want to fool around with a tractor type seat I have one :thumb:
Ok Mr funny guy.. :grin: How about I duct tape a Barca Lounger to the frame so you'll be all comfy if you want to ride it..
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This is it, a 90's genuine HD Sportster solo seat...It was on my wallet and easy to mount, it's good to go...i started and ran the bike several times yesterday..No smoke no leaks..The exhaust has a nice sound and not too loud or raspy...A new class of bikes, Cafe Cruiser :grin:
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Well done on the Honda 750 "Cafe Cruiser!" :thumb: :cool: :1:
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Here is a 20-year version from Moto Guzzi of a......"Cafe Cruiser" :wink: :cool:
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The stock tank is too "Bobber/cruiser" style for me... The frame is oddly shaped and so finding a donor tank without having to do a lot sheetmetal shaping isn't easy....And good tanks ain't cheap even from mass produced bikes...But a 79 Yamaha XS 750 tank fit good after massaging the tunnel and spreading it wider by about 1/2 inch with the Porta-Power...
The tank will be painted gloss black..............
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I finally settled on a 79 Yamaha XS750 fuel tank...I had to modify it a bit to fit... Lacquer paint that I color sanded between coats.. When it comes to rattle can paint jobs, lacquer is more fuel resistant than enamel
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I like where you were going, but that seat is not sitting well :grin:
Looks like it needs something behind it, a cafe cowl or ?? Otherwise, nice job.
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I'm trying to avoid the common cafe theme with the cowl and no rear fender...And the cost, there are very no options other than a $300 plus custom made seat...The Harley Sportster seat is a bit more cruiser style than I like, but it was inexpensive ,to fits and is comfortable...
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Rock On dude.....Great job on your build.....this is my CB 750 Chopper...... I dont ride it as much anymore but still love it......
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I'm trying to avoid the common cafe theme with the cowl and no rear fender...And the cost, there are very no options other than a $300 plus custom made seat...The Harley Sportster seat is a bit more cruiser style than I like, but it was inexpensive ,to fits and is comfortable...
I know you're starting with a "C' but - Freddie Spencer tribute?
One of my favorite bikes EVER was a "Wes Cooley" I built from a GS1000G. Sure it had a shaft but DAMN, it was cool!
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Todd.
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I've been riding the bike and it's all ok...I spent some time messing with tuning because the CV carbs with pod filters and a 4 into 1 aftermarket exhaust can be problems. A Dynojet kit ,new intake rubbers and clamps, time spent adjusting carbs with a manometer and it runs nicely from idle to redline...Good throttle response at lower speeds with the expected rush of power from 6500 to 9500 rpm...The handling with the 96 750 Interceptor front end parts, 26 degrees fork rake, 4.2 inches of trail and 89 Interceptor rear wheel is reasonable . The bike now weighs about 510 pounds with fuel..But my tuned 96 Ducati 900 M is faster and for sure handles and feels better, the Honda being more numb that I thought it would be..Maybe the Avon Road Rider bias tires are part of it..
The total price was around 2200 bucks including the purchase of the beat up 750C...I enjoy riding it on the rural back roads..
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Maybe the Avon Road Rider bias tires are part of it..
I had read good things about the Avons here, so tried one on the rear of the AeroLario. It's awful. <shrug> It seems like it's either sliding or getting ready to slide..
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I had read good things about the Avons here, so tried one on the rear of the AeroLario. It's awful. <shrug> It seems like it's either sliding or getting ready to slide..
That's a great description.....I don't feel comfortable "sporty" leaning the Honda in 60 MPH turns...The bike seems steady but maybe in my little mind I feel like it's about to slide so I back off...
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That's a great description.....I don't feel comfortable "sporty" leaning the Honda in 60 MPH turns...The bike seems steady but maybe in my little mind I feel like it's about to slide so I back off...
Yep, that's it all right. And don't worry.. you little mind is right. :smiley: I'm going to bin the one I have, and it's practically new. (not Guzzi content) :wink: Researching what I can get as we speak..
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I know you're starting with a "C' but - Freddie Spencer tribute?
One of my favorite bikes EVER was a "Wes Cooley" I built from a GS1000G. Sure it had a shaft but DAMN, it was cool!
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Todd.
Now ^^^ that is a great looking bike!
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