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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: DaSwami on January 18, 2018, 08:00:18 PM
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No word on price though?
http://www.motoguzzi.com/en_EN/news/Moto-Guzzi-V7-III-Carbon-start-of-production/
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That looks really nice. I dig the new Milano too.
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When Aprilia launched the RSV-4 Carbon it gave some stupid weight reduction, like from 150 to 120Kg.
The RSV-4 was at That time, and is, even now, a real 'Contender'.
The idea of a V9 'Carbon' is an insult to everything that motorcycling should be about!
But I suppose if it looks 'Cool' that's all that matters. Please, empty your wallets and perhaps, eventually, Guzzi will be allowed to build motorbikes again.
Pete
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Got it now Pete, disregard my question on the other thread about buying a Honda. You are the resident curmudgeon, with utter disdain for all the new Goose fans because you think they are stupid.
Looks is not all that matters, though it is important.
I like the new V7 (esp the Stone) because they check all the boxes for me, as I've stated many times before.
Huge fuel tank
Fuel injected
6-speed
Shaft drive
Cast wheels
Great torquey engine
Easy to work on
Lightweight
Looks great! Sounds great! Drives great!
Unique in the biking world
Sounds like a great bike for everything that "motorcycling should be about" to me. Fun!!
A bike doesn't have to be suitable for MotoGP to be a proper motorbike. I don't want or need to ride that way anymore. Maybe the RSV-4 gives you comfort while riding with its "ass in the air" fuel tank?
So please, if you have nothing good to say, try zipping those lips once in awhile, k, mate?
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Luigi opened a new box of fuel tanks and noticed they were the black ones he'd been expecting since November...
Sorry but thats all it boils down to, but at least some of the other v3 bikes are already in dealerships and there are some nice improvements.
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I think it looks really nice. I don't think they are selling it as a reduced weight V7 iii. The V7iii line, in all of its outfits, is a winner IMO so the more models the better!
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Gentlemen please, "ass in the air" indeed ! I much prefer "stinkbug stance" :boxing:
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I thought it was called a monkey on a football looking kinda thingee sorta maybe... :popcorn:
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I think it is nice looking, but
parts in red,
Lucky Phil gave me grief about red gaiters on the Aero Lario.. :smiley: Maybe it's an OZ thing.
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Just another bling to keep sales going, at least you can buy all this stuff, all kinds of tanks & fenders in accessories.
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Not my cup of tea.......but if it motivates others to reach for their wallet well that's a good thing for Moto Guzzi and a good thing for this community. It's all good! Dilly Dilly!!
Paul
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Pete I love ya man, but DaS has it right here:
Got it now Pete, disregard my question on the other thread about buying a Honda. You are the resident curmudgeon, with utter disdain for all the new Goose fans because you think they are stupid.
Looks is not all that matters, though it is important.
I like the new V7 (esp the Stone) because they check all the boxes for me, as I've stated many times before.
Huge fuel tank
Fuel injected
6-speed
Shaft drive
Cast wheels
Great torquey engine
Easy to work on
Lightweight
Looks great! Sounds great! Drives great!
Unique in the biking world
Sounds like a great bike for everything that "motorcycling should be about" to me. Fun!!
A bike doesn't have to be suitable for MotoGP to be a proper motorbike. I don't want or need to ride that way anymore. Maybe the RSV-4 gives you comfort while riding with its "ass in the air" fuel tank?
So please, if you have nothing good to say, try zipping those lips once in awhile, k, mate?
I have to honestly say I have not once ever gone looking to see what the F* an RSV-4 EVEN LOOKS LIKE.
I don't care that it even exists.
It has absolutely no relevance to me or what I what in a motorbike.
The V7 on the other hand is wonderful in all of its variants.
Everything doesn't need to be race worthy and go like a raped-ape to be fun. And sure, the carbon fiber on this bike is about looks... but so what....
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I like it.
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But I suppose if it looks 'Cool' that's all that matters. Please, empty your wallets and perhaps, eventually, Guzzi will be allowed to build motorbikes again.
Pete
WHS ^ :1:
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what can I say, I've always had a thing for redheads. Or, as Richard Thompson put it,
"red hair and black leather, my favorite color scheme".
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That is one nice looking Guzzi!! :thumb: :1: :cool:...and I thought this was interesting as well!
The series number of the model is identified by the plate positioned on the handlebar risers: there are 1921 units available, a number that recalls the year that Moto Guzzi was established.
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I like it for what it is, but come on, fenders are fenders. Why can't they extended enough to keep shit from being flung all over the place? Maybe people have no intention of riding in the wet, but i'm sick of pulling the griso tank only to find dirt and rocks and road crap all over everything. And then the old wet stripe from your arse to the top of your helmet up your back. Real fenders , is that too much to ask? I don't care what their made of but they ought to do their job. Aside from that , dual clocks might be nice on this limited, and maybe dual disks. I would rather see actually functional features vs. carbon bits.
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Well..
That V7 or V9 thingy and it's look alike mates is not something I'm remotely interested in and the black one looks like something produced for the military under licence in an Asian backwater.
But.
They're selling like condoms in San Francisco and that is one fabulous thing..
If it's keeping Guzzi's doors open and enabling them to remain solvent and (hopefully) build a desirable product range, then they damn well deserve their place.
In relation to what motorcycling should be about, I thought it was jumping on your bike and watching the mayhem disappear in the mirrors whilst feeling privileged and alive.
If a V7's or 9's owner feels that, then he has bought the right bike.
They seem to gave a good supporter base and for that, I'm glad they're here. It's encouraging to note that the young ones are glancing in the V7's and 9's direction.
I'd sooner come across a young Guzzi owner new to bikes who's happy to exist outside the main four from Japan who wants to know about the heart of his/her new bike instead of another poor bastard who's bought a Japanese plastic bucket of perfected pus, who'll not know how to adjust the chain after the first year.
Guzzi...
Keep making stuff that sells and keep your doors open. Get into bed with Benetton and get some fashion shit going like I saw at Jack Lilley's in London.
Just stay afloat.
People like Pete are rare and can see mediocrity more than some but these New things are doing a great job as a life support at Mandello.
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I like it for what it is, but come on, fenders are fenders. Why can't they extended enough to keep shit from being flung all over the place? Maybe people have no intention of riding in the wet, but i'm sick of pulling the griso tank only to find dirt and rocks and road crap all over everything. And then the old wet stripe from your arse to the top of your helmet up your back. Real fenders , is that too much to ask? I don't care what their made of but they ought to do their job. Aside from that , dual clocks might be nice on this limited, and maybe dual disks. I would rather see actually functional features vs. carbon bits.
Look at the beautiful stainless steel fenders on this 1962 Norton Dominator 650SS - - back in the day when manufacturers actually made.........."real fenders!" :thumb: :1: :cool:
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I like it for what it is, but come on, fenders are fenders. Why can't they extended enough to keep shit from being flung all over the place? Maybe people have no intention of riding in the wet, but i'm sick of pulling the griso tank only to find dirt and rocks and road crap all over everything. And then the old wet stripe from your arse to the top of your helmet up your back. Real fenders , is that too much to ask? I don't care what their made of but they ought to do their job. Aside from that , dual clocks might be nice on this limited, and maybe dual disks. I would rather see actually functional features vs. carbon bits.
Mate, your point is chock full of common sense but I think you'll see these things more in the inner city Piazzas on warm Saturday nights with their owners sipping cappuccinos and nibbling smashed avocado offerings, but they look classy in that environment and I think Guzzi are hitting a certain demographic square between the eyes that'll not find a need for usable fenders where they're going.
I hope they just keep buying the bastards.
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Look at the beautiful stainless steel fenders on this 1962 Norton Dominator 650SS - - back in the day when manufacturers actually made.........."real fenders!" :thumb: :1: :cool:
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That's what I'm talking about, What a beautiful thing. :thumb: :thumb: Probably even cost less the CF. I wish they at least had real fenders as an accessory item.
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That's what I'm talking about, What a beautiful thing. :thumb: :thumb: Probably even cost less the CF. I wish they at least had real fenders as an accessory item.
lucian - You may be onto something...a business that designs and manufactures aftermarket, (...and functional!!) cool fenders for all the V7's and V9's out there! :cool: :thumb:
By the way, for a nice Domi (original or restored), CMV (Current Market Value) is between $8K-$12K depending on condition... :wink: :cool:
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When I first saw the Breva 1100 (in black), I thought it was the coolest thing around. It was a semi-modern looking bike and comfortable enough to take me and the missus around 54,000 miles of the hills and mountains around WV and surrounding states.
I just can't see "my version" of that modern standard with these (or the cruisers) styles.
I can't wait till the "new in-city demographic" have to get their bikes serviced. It'll be a whole new crop of riders that can't find a great Guzzi shop.
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It says the rear brake master cylinder is black, but the pic shows it is not.
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That black thing needs..
Polished alloy tank,(slightly) more aggressive handlebars, twin discs up front that are bigger than really necessary, Brembo four spot calipers, the REAL red, raw alloy engine castings (un painted), polished rocker covers, beefier looking swingarm and unpainted bevelbox, single seat option and sports bike (ish) ass end.
Something that looks like a Mk1 Le Mans ( if you're drunk on a dark evening squinting through one eye), that's been dragged kicking and screaming into the 21 st century.
Oh, and I forgot...
It'll need discreet mounts for the electric motor option that'll need to be available from around 2025. :sad:
I can see it now.
The Moto Guzzi V7/V9 Priusio Spark !
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When I first saw the Breva 1100 (in black), I thought it was the coolest thing around. It was a semi-modern looking bike and comfortable enough to take me and the missus around 54,000 miles of the hills and mountains around WV and surrounding states.
I just can't see "my version" of that modern standard with these (or the cruisers) styles.
I can't wait till the "new in-city demographic" have to get their bikes serviced. It'll be a whole new crop of riders that can't find a great Guzzi shop.
2010 Moto Guzzi Breva 1100...in black. I have been told by several long-time Guzzi mechanics / dealers that the 1100 Breva was one of "the best all around Guzzi's" every made... :cool: :1: :thumb:
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When I first saw the Breva 1100 (in black), I thought it was the coolest thing around. It was a semi-modern looking bike and comfortable enough to take me and the missus around 54,000 miles of the hills and mountains around WV and surrounding states.
I just can't see "my version" of that modern standard with these (or the cruisers) styles.
I can't wait till the "new in-city demographic" have to get their bikes serviced. It'll be a whole new crop of riders that can't find a great Guzzi shop.
That's right.
Some butcher will root it up, and they'll go and buy a new one !
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Pete I love ya man, but DaS has it right here:
I have to honestly say I have not once ever gone looking to see what the F* an RSV-4 EVEN LOOKS LIKE.
I don't care that it even exists.
It has absolutely no relevance to me or what I what in a motorbike.
The V7 on the other hand is wonderful in all of its variants.
Everything doesn't need to be race worthy and go like a raped-ape to be fun. And sure, the carbon fiber on this bike is about looks... but so what....
The whole point of carbon fibre is that it's light! That's why it is used. Yes it also looks good in moderation but using it on a Guzzi is really a bit of a wank. Note though that I have both a pipe and front fender on my Griso made of CF but it's not for any other reason than it was cheaper and more readily available than the alternatives. Oh, and I'm a wanker :grin:
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The whole point of carbon fibre is that it's light! That's why it is used. Yes it also looks good in moderation but using it on a Guzzi is really a bit of a wank. Note though that I have both a pipe and front fender on my Griso made of CF but it's not for any other reason than it was cheaper and more readily available than the alternatives. Oh, and I'm a wanker :grin:
As for the last 1/2 line Peter, 90% of us do it and 10% lie about it, some blokes would make a good missus, just can't stand to see a bloke enjoy himself !!
But I digress..
I contend that the whole point in this case is not to make things lighter, it's to sell units!
I'd like to see Guzzi making carbon fibre adult toys and getting more successful in the process.
Pete, if you're "guilty" of anything, I reckon it's that you've developed a hard nosed attitude to bullshit and pretentiousness.
But that's our new world mate, no?
You having worked in the industry since Christ died probably doesn't help any, but I hasten to add for the reader, it's that same attitude that spares a lot of us from copping it from behind, by perveyors of BS.
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I must be getting really old.....I though "Carbon" meant Carbon Fiber.
So where's the Carbon Fiber?
My '03 Rosso Corsa has Carbon fiber parts.
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The whole point of carbon fibre is...it also looks good in moderation
Exactly...
but using it on a Guzzi is really a bit of a wank.
Meh
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Exactly...
Meh
They just want to sell BIKES !!!!
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They just want to sell BIKES !!!!
Limiting production as a way of selling more? The logic escapes me.
I've been trying to write a comment that both reflects my opinion of the bike and is suitable for the forum. I can't. So I'll just say that if the "Carbon" sells its 1920 units it's proof that there's a seat for every ass. I'm betting that even after intentionally limiting production they'll need heavy discounts to clear the showroom.
And a general comment -- Carbon Fiber is the new simichrome. The new vinyl top on the fake convertible. The plastic wood panels on an AMC pacer. The playing card in the spokes. It serves the same purposelessness with none of the visual appeal.
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I must be getting really old.....I though "Carbon" meant Carbon Fiber.
So where's the Carbon Fiber?
My '03 Rosso Corsa has Carbon fiber parts.
(http://www.2040motos.com/_content/cars/images/75/97575/009.jpg)
My question is - is it real carbon fiber or just a fake carbon fiber look plastic? I have been seeing a lot of fake carbon fiber on cars these days. Real carbon fiber parts should be replacing metal or fiberglass parts; I doubt there is a huge weight difference between real carbon fiber and plastic.
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I just want the red head covers, and maybe the seat. I think they’d compliment Anni nicely. :thumb: :thumb:
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Fine then , we just won't send you Ozzies any of the Carbon thingies then . Take that ya cantankerous old so and so's :laugh:
Dusty
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I think the valve covers look like someone t-boned a baboon's ass and it stuck. But it does look better than the Burger King hats on the 1400.
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I just want the red head covers, and maybe the seat. I think they�d compliment Anni nicely. :thumb: :thumb:
If you were to buy the rocker covers as a spare they'll probably be absurdly expensive as they will, like most of the other dross that Piaggio are spruiking to 'Customise' the smallblocks, be sold as 'Special' parts for a 'Limited Edition' model.
Thing is paint or powder coat are cheap! You can have your rocker covers any colour you like just by taking them off and taking them to a paint shop or powder coater.
Because I've never worked on one I'm not sure whether the rocker covers are sealed around the bolts with copper washers like the V7/II's or rubber tampons like the 8V's? If the latter then probably just about any old paint would probably do as the covers won't get that hot. If they use copper washers though it will probably need something a bit more heat resistant.
Pete
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I am still waiting on my v85😇
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I am still waiting on my v85😇
The title of this thread got me excited, but I would like to see some product evolution, so I am also 'patiently' waiting for the V85 models, or a more 'modern' V9.
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2010 Moto Guzzi Breva 1100...in black. I have been told by several long-time Guzzi mechanics / dealers that the 1100 Breva was one of "the best all around Guzzi's" every made... :cool: :1: :thumb:
Should been available in beige!
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I think the valve covers look like someone t-boned a baboon's ass and it stuck. But it does look better than the Burger King hats on the 1400.
HA-HA! That wasn't the kind of "pop" I was looking for. :shocked:
If you were to buy the rocker covers as a spare they'll probably be absurdly expensive as they will, like most of the other dross that Piaggio are spruiking to 'Customise' the smallblocks, be sold as 'Special' parts for a 'Limited Edition' model.
Thing is paint or powder coat are cheap! You can have your rocker covers any colour you like just by taking them off and taking them to a paint shop or powder coater.
Because I've never worked on one I'm not sure whether the rocker covers are sealed around the bolts with copper washers like the V7/II's or rubber tampons like the 8V's? If the latter then probably just about any old paint would probably do as the covers won't get that hot. If they use copper washers though it will probably need something a bit more heat resistant.
Pete
Yes, I agree that MG likes to rake its buyers over the coals for "Genuine Moto Guzzi Accessories". I didn't consider painting the stock covers for fear of mucking up the job and making them look worse in the long run.
As far as the washers go, I took this image from the Service Station Manual, and I didn't what you referenced. However, I freely admit to being clueless about what I should be looking for, and would love a lesson if you're willing. :bow:
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The pics don't actually show what seals the covers around the bolts that hold them down. The 'Tampons', (It's what they are called, it's the Italian word for 'Plug') are like a *Rubber*, (Most likely Nitrile.) washer arrangement that compresses to seal between the bolt head and the cover.
If the V9's and V7-III's use a 'Rubber' gasket to seal the cover proper then they will probably use tampons. If they are still using the coated metal type gaskets they'll probably of stuck with copper washers.
Pete
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HA-HA! That wasn't the kind of "pop" I was looking for. :shocked:
Yes, I agree that MG likes to rake its buyers over the coals for "Genuine Moto Guzzi Accessories". I didn't consider painting the stock covers for fear of mucking up the job and making them look worse in the long run.
As far as the washers go, I took this image from the Service Station Manual, and I didn't what you referenced. However, I freely admit to being clueless about what I should be looking for, and would love a lesson if you're willing. :bow:
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Question is, do these valve covers make my ass look big?
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I don't want a V750 III! I want a bike that looks like the V750 III with a big block engine, comfortable suspension, and .... that's about it. What's next from Guzzi ........ a V1100 III based on the small block? Come on, Guzzi, just how much stress can the small block withstand?
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I don't want a V750 III! I want a bike that looks like the V750 III with a big block engine, comfortable suspension, and .... that's about it. What's next from Guzzi ........ a V1100 III based on the small block? Come on, Guzzi, just how much stress can the small block withstand?
Well, I for love the small block. Don't need no stinkin giant lump. Light weight and efficient for me, and the Matris suspension front and rear made it all most comfortable. Big gas tank, decent fuel economy, big twists of the wrists, smooth riding, easy maintenance, what is not to love?
If I long for 120hp in a twin with $1,000 services I will buy another BMW.
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Nope, not all, just some. Thanks for sticking your hand up.
My opinion is as valid as anyone else's. Sorry if it wads your panties.
Eh, I know a lot of the people here think you are ridgey-didge, but from where I sit you just have tickets on yourself. Dunno why you have to be so abrasive, maybe you have a head like a dropped pie, you're just a straight up bogan, have a few roos loose in the top paddock, you post while on the cans..... or all of the above?
Taking little jabs without giving someone a fair shake of the sauce bottle just makes you look like a flaming galah, mate. Fair dinkum!
Civility....have a go, ya mug. You can do it.
Hoooroo.......
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Well, I for love the small block. Don't need no stinkin giant lump. Light weight and efficient for me, and the Matris suspension front and rear made it all most comfortable. Big gas tank, decent fuel economy, big twists of the wrists, smooth riding, easy maintenance, what is not to love?
If I long for 120hp in a twin with $1,000 services I will buy another BMW.
I don't recall my 1200 Sport requiring $1000 services. What's not to love? An old design that is still getting stretched?
My thoughts anyway.
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OK fellas , ease off , let's back off the personal stuff . Seriously .
Dusty
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I see both sides of the big block and smallblock thing.
I liked the effortless power and tough as an anvil feel of my big blocks.
The Jackal was a fantastic handling, all day riding, type of do anything (on-road) kinda bike. The B11 took it a step further with more of everything which was good.
Unfortunately for me both left me wanting for reliability in the end, and subjectively both were lacking in the looks/identity department.
The smallblock has the simplicity, soul, subjectively the looks I wanted, all in a lightweight package that happily dances in the twisties even better than the big girls.
But some decry the basic chassis (largely suspension and some of the cost cutting ancillary bits). And then there's the ever present elephant in the room, POWA!
When is there enough power?!? If the it's what you want it's enough, the second it's not what you want we question if it's tough enough. Is it mechanically weak, stressed, not gonna last...?
There's always a lighter bike, a faster bike, a more comfortable bike, a more dependable bike, hell a better looking bike.
It's actually ALL subjective, and comes down to what you want more.
I actually understand the people who want something between the Cali 1400 and the V7/V9 and/or something more sporting.
That said there's a lot to like in the current models. But that's easy for me to say because the ergos, styling, hell even the overall performance priorities are more in line with my desires.
So it still comes down to what you give a crap about. But I could do fine with nothing in my garage but a few of the current models.
Anyway, there's way too much angst and hand wringing over matters of taste (like carbon fiber, does this bike deserve it, is it REAL enough in terms of performance [emoji849]).
Ironically I've got an acquaintance who lives in Italy and rides a Sportster who often says "matters of taste must not be discussed". And I take it that it's a common phrase in Italy.
I find it ironic since my Italian relatives are passionate and always ready for a debate. But maybe that's from where the phrase came in the first place.
I dunno, but it seems silly...
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Now THIS was very entertaining to read. Wish we were all in the same room with beer. No photos, please............. .......
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I just want the red head covers, and maybe the seat. I think they�d compliment Anni nicely. :thumb: :thumb:
You could be right about the covers looking good on an Anni. They draw attention to the unique engine configuration which is cool.
Striping the paint/coating off the OEM head covers on the Anni and finishing them in a satin finish might look good too. I like the various shiny metal finishes on the Anni, including the polished SS on the Agostini pipes on mine.
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Now THIS was very entertaining to read. Wish we were all in the same room with beer. No photos, please............. .......
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I'm currently really enjoying
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It's much better out of glass than a can.
Pete
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I'm currently really enjoying
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It's much better out of glass than a can.
Pete
OOOOOOOHHH, new argument ... Is beer better stored in glass or metal....
Or maybe you meant poured from metal to glass and have thus disarmed me. [emoji56]
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Nah, s'better out of a bottle. Tinnies suck! :boozing:
Here! Something absolutely disgusting dropped into my email inbox! It was some sort of 'Promotion' for a new Budweiser product called 'Prohibition'. It's apparently a 'Beer' with no alcohol in it! Leaving aside the fact that if it's a Bud product it's not really a beer anyway what the hell is the point of a beer with no alcohol in it?! It would be like a hot sauce with no chilli in it! Utterly pointless!
The weirdest thing about the promotion though was it was from Tesco! Which is a British supermarket chain! Why in heaven they would be wanting someone half a world away to get excited about cans of flavourless brown water I have no idea! What was even more ridiculous was that it seemed they actually expected me to separate myself from the princely sum of over £2 Sterling for a can of this rubbish!
Laugh? I soaked the seat! Asking a Guzzi owner to pay over £2 for a can of anything is unlikely to have a positive outcome! Asking them to do it for a 'Not-a-beer' is a rapid elevator to insolvency and financial ruin!
Outrageous!
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Nah, s'better out of a bottle. Tinnies suck! :boozing:
Uh, so you don't like draft beer?
You do remember that kegs are metal right?!?
On the rest I agree... Vehemently!
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I've been trying to write a comment that both reflects my opinion of the bike and is suitable for the forum. I can't. So I'll just say that if the "Carbon" sells its 1920 units it's proof that there's a seat for every ass. I'm betting that even after intentionally limiting production they'll need heavy discounts to clear the showroom.
And a general comment -- Carbon Fiber is the new simichrome. The new vinyl top on the fake convertible. The plastic wood panels on an AMC pacer. The playing card in the spokes. It serves the same purposelessness with none of the visual appeal.
Hahaha...Perfect!
I don't know what company was first to sell a finished vehicle in what is basically primer, but I'm guessing they had a good laugh. Sorry, but I can make any bike look like that with two rattle cans and a couple of beers. It doesn't look "custom" , it looks cheap.
" Hey... I just refinished the BBQ, and have some extra rustoleum... Roll the bike over here! "
Don't be offended if your motorcycle gets pelted with hot dogs.
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OOOOOOOHHH, new argument ... Is beer better stored in glass or metal....
Or maybe you meant poured from metal to glass and have thus disarmed me. [emoji56]
I'm not one to worry too much how it's stored. How it's poured is more interesting. Into a glass, and into my maw, is best.
Having parked my Stelvio for a few minutes to test a V7 III Stone a few months ago, I can say I appreciated the small block and wouldn't mind one in my garage if it came to that, which isn't something I would have said about previous small-blocks. But part of the charm (for me!) was the utter lack of pretense, which is lost with the many cost-plus variants Piaggio likes to hustle on us. I'm in no hurry. I'm plenty happy with the Stelvio.
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The pics don't actually show what seals the covers around the bolts that hold them down. The 'Tampons', (It's what they are called, it's the Italian word for 'Plug') are like a *Rubber*, (Most likely Nitrile.) washer arrangement that compresses to seal between the bolt head and the cover.
If the V9's and V7-III's use a 'Rubber' gasket to seal the cover proper then they will probably use tampons. If they are still using the coated metal type gaskets they'll probably of stuck with copper washers.
Pete
Are they #4? A cursory part number search yielded the name "buffer damper" with no mention as to what they (or the gasket) is made of.
If I don't ask, I can't learn. :azn:
:1: Thank you, Pete, for humoring me. :thumb:
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Uh, so you don't like draft beer?
You do remember that kegs are metal right?!?
On the rest I agree... Vehemently!
You're an idiot! :grin: draught beer is a completely different animal!
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Are they #4? A cursory part number search yielded the name "buffer damper" with no mention as to what they (or the gasket) is made of.
If I don't ask, I can't learn. :azn:
:1: Thank you, Pete, for humoring me. :thumb:
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I can't quite make out the number but the forth part down the list looks like it sez 'Damper Drift' which is what the tampons used on the 8V's are sometimes called so yes, I reckon they're the same parts.
I'll have a search around, AF1 probably have the parts diagrams on line and see if they are the same part # as the later 8V's? My guess is they will be. It would be daft not to use the same parts.
Asking questions and researching is how we learn. Never be afraid to ask questions. No point in having large supra-orbital lobes and opposable thumbs if they are never used!
Pete
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Yes, I love a draft beer in a suitable glass... Generally a pint or Pilsner glass for me.
As for pretense, that's a funny term for bikes.
I mean what's more pretentious a "racer" that makes HP more at the level of bikes from 50 years ago or an off-road styled bike that weighs 600+#?
I mean at the end of the day people can't really run much faster than they could 50 years ago but 600# is still much, much harder to pick up than 300-400#. So who is pretending?
Ok maybe it's a matter of degree, but still even if we accept there are extremes that approach ridiculous isn't there a whole range of "it's fun" in the middle? Wouldn't it be boring if we all wanted the exact same thing.
So WTF are we so pretentious about things we don't want. Maybe we just don't understand.
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You're an idiot! :grin: draught beer is a completely different animal!
As someone who has brewed hundreds of gallons of beer ... And consumed exponentially more, I must say your frame of reference on beer is older than the chassis of a smallblock!!!
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As someone who has brewed hundreds of gallons of beer ... And consumed exponentially more, I must say your frame of reference on beer is older than the chassis of a smallblock!!!
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Well, in an attempt to improve my 'Frame of refference' I will abandon the delicious, air conditioned comfort of my living room and wander down through the 41*C heat to the Royal where the adorable Stacey will, I'm sure, we only too willing to help me establish a better 'Frame of Reference' by emptying some of a keg into me! :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:
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I can't quite make out the number but the forth part down the list looks like it sez 'Damper Drift' which is what the tampons used on the 8V's are sometimes called so yes, I reckon they're the same parts.
I'll have a search around, AF1 probably have the parts diagrams on line and see if they are the same part # as the later 8V's? My guess is they will be. It would be daft not to use the same parts.
Asking questions and researching is how we learn. Never be afraid to ask questions. No point in having large supra-orbital lobes and opposable thumbs if they are never used!
Pete
The part # is 1A006716.
Trust me, I'm always curious but sometimes I have to see it to understand, hence the pictures. Today I received (and installed, what a B!+$#!) an H&B luggage rack from AF1 and they have a guy in parts that is fabulous at answering my ignorant inquiries. If I really get a bee up me bonnet about knowing, I'll bug him.
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Well, in an attempt to improve my 'Frame of refference' I will abandon the delicious, air conditioned comfort of my living room and wander down through the 41*C heat to the Royal where the adorable Stacey will, I'm sure, we only too willing to help me establish a better 'Frame of Reference' by emptying some of a keg into me! :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:
Enjoy one for me my friend!!!
Enjoy one for me!
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I should go to bed, I'm scheduled for about 3+ hours of training tomorrow morning!
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1A006716 is the same part# as the later 8V tampons so I'm guessing that the rocker cover gasket is nitrile as well on the V9/V7-III.
If you want to have a peek under the rocker covers it's worth having a pair of rocker cover gaskets and however many tampons are needed, (Six?) on hand. They are almost certainly re-usable but of course if you don't have spares on hand they are bound to leak!
Pete
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I should go to bed, I'm scheduled for about 3+ hours of training tomorrow morning!
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Nom-Nom!
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Back on topic, sort of.
at 1921 units limited production means they will be new ones in the showroom for 3-4 years. Stonello anyone!
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1A006716 is the same part# as the later 8V tampons so I'm guessing that the rocker cover gasket is nitrile as well on the V9/V7-III.
If you want to have a peek under the rocker covers it's worth having a pair of rocker cover gaskets and however many tampons are needed, (Six?) on hand. They are almost certainly re-usable but of course if you don't have spares on hand they are bound to leak!
Pete
Thanks for the tip!
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Hahaha...Perfect!
I don't know what company was first to sell a finished vehicle in what is basically primer, but I'm guessing they had a good laugh. Sorry, but I can make any bike look like that with two rattle cans and a couple of beers. It doesn't look "custom" , it looks cheap.
" Hey... I just refinished the BBQ, and have some extra rustoleum... Roll the bike over here! "
Don't be offended if your motorcycle gets pelted with hot dogs.
Agreed Turin.
Looks like the new owner picked it up at Aldi, Walmart or Tesco.
And Supermarket chain got them cheap from The Shim Jung Win company in Shanghai produced under licence for Guzzi.
AND...
Please GG, don't go red on Anni's rocker covers, IMO it screams "look at me" when all the attention in the room is on you anyway.
It looks elegantly understated in a timeless way now.
Next time you're going out to dinner looking just lovely, try applying some dayglo lipstick to"enhance the look" and see what you reckon.
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Please GG, don't go red on Anni's sidecovers, IMO it screams "look at me" when all the attention in the room is on you anyway.
It looks elegantly understated in a timeless way now.
Next time you're going out to dinner looking just lovely, try applying some dayglo lipstick to"enhance the look" and see what you reckon.
No worries Huzo, she gets enough attention without looking like a baboon in heat.
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No worries Huzo, she gets enough attention without looking like a baboon in heat.
Of that I've no doubt !
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I like the overall lines. Fender too small. Red rocker covers OTT. May look better with a red frame? :undecided: NO REV COUNTER!!!!
I ride the Breva by the revo; I like to know what it is doing sometimes, especially when passing a Triffid. The bike whips up too easily in to the red zone and I do like to know when this is about to happen.
Draught beer please. From glass. If it has to come out of a can, then put it in a glass.
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I like the overall lines. Fender too small. Red rocker covers OTT. May look better with a red frame? :undecided: NO REV COUNTER!!!!
I ride the Breva by the revo; I like to know what it is doing sometimes, especially when passing a Triffid. The bike whips up too easily in to the red zone and I do like to know when this is about to happen.
Draught beer please. From glass. If it has to come out of a can, then put it in a glass.
Well, I may be over your way tomorrow Muzz. Michael's in Nelson, supposedly to rollerise a Griso but the owner screwed up the info on the bike and needs a 'C' kit rather than the 'A' kit we ordered. Since I can't get hold of a courier company on a Sunday it looks like I may have to fly over with the 'C' kit. Grrrrrr!
Pete
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baboon in heat.
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Attagirl..
Make mine draft. Hoppy is good, I've been a hophead since before it was popular. Oh.. I've seen Pete in action. Do *not* try to keep up.. :smiley: you'll wake up in the morning thinking you might have the flu while he's bouncing around.. "ready to ride?" :smiley:
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it looks like I may have to fly over with the 'C' kit. Grrrrrr!
Pete
C'mon Pete, I know ya love it over here and the beer's great! :thumb: :grin:
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Actually Monteiths American Pale Ale is one of my favourite beers, especially on draught. Problem is it's something like 28 trillion % ABV! Drink three and you drool a lot! :grin:
Pete
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If the trip is on, where are you flying in to?
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I've seen Pete in action. Do *not* try to keep up.. :smiley: you'll wake up in the morning thinking you might have the flu while he's bouncing around.. "ready to ride?"
Guess he wasn't himself the times he visited and drank like a nun. [emoji848] [emoji48]
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If the trip is on, where are you flying in to?
Christchurch. The bike's in Nelson.
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Pricing announced, $9690, $1700 more than the Stone, $1200 more than the Special, $300 less then the Anniversario
http://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/moto/standard/V7-III/V7-III-Carbon/
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No word on price though?
http://www.motoguzzi.com/en_EN/news/Moto-Guzzi-V7-III-Carbon-start-of-production/
nice like to see it with a 1000cc engine :wink:
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Its always funny when someone who is a verifiable expert in one thing, thinks they are an expert and the final authority in all things.
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A better use for carbon fiber?
www.cyclenews.com/2017/12/article/250cc-two-stroke-streetbike-back-baby/
AND, BTW: Who really needs a big block, anyway. Some day the rest of you (if lucky), will be as old and wizened as I.
Or, IOW: If you can get a leg over it, ride it like you stole it. R3~
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Does anyone know why, with 4 variations of the V7 (and now the 'Rough' model) they did not produce a V9 Carbon instead? I really thought when the Roamer & Bobber were introduced that more models would be coming based on that platform. The sporty look of the Carbon would have been a nice complement to the other V9's.
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Can anybody provide links to companies that make aftermarket carbon fiber bits for the V7 III's? The MG OEM CF is expensive AF!
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...............all because a guy said he liked a motorcycle. Amazing.
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O wow, that is such a big change from the previous cookie cutter V7 models, whoooopeeeee!
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...............all because a guy said he liked a motorcycle. Amazing.
I know right....
I wish I had one just to annoy those who hate em! [emoji56]
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Does anyone know why, with 4 variations of the V7 (and now the 'Rough' model) they did not produce a V9 Carbon instead? I really thought when the Roamer & Bobber were introduced that more models would be coming based on that platform. The sporty look of the Carbon would have been a nice complement to the other V9's.
Myopia?
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Now THIS was very entertaining to read. Wish we were all in the same room with beer. No photos, please............. .......
Agreed!
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Haha it's all good, makes the internet interesting and entertaining, no?
I see the new V7III "Carbon Shine" has made its debut, looks like they had a few leftover V7III Anniversario chrome tanks? Geeee, what do we do with these? :evil:
One thing I do find interesting is that nice green V9 Roamer has yet to make it onto the MG website here in the states. Maybe it won't?
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Gentlemen please, "ass in the air" indeed ! I much prefer "stinkbug stance" :boxing:
"Stinkbug Stance" is not a good choice, as I very often see stink bugs lying on their backs after crashing, trying to right themselves.