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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: lucian on January 26, 2018, 05:46:58 PM
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Can't imagine life without them.
Especially on this project. Decided to uglyfi the griso. May need to borrow Chucks hacksaw when done. We'll see. :laugh:
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Clean tools r your friend :boozing:
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Rear racks are so useful that it doesn't matter what they look like!
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you should tack those vice grips or they may fall off when you hit a bump, I hate loosing tools :evil:
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works good on Suzuki screws so tight the correct JIS bit still can't get them loose, had to grind down the back side to fit between the flutes on the carb top..
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If you want to clean up the vice grips a little what I do is spray them with Ospho and let it set overnight . It turns the rust black. I get a quart bottle at the hardware store and put a spray head on it. Quart lasts me a year unless I get an old tractor.
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Rear racks are so useful that it doesn't matter what they look like!
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works good on Suzuki screws so tight the correct JIS bit still can't get them loose, had to grind down the back side to fit between the flutes on the carb top..
A proper JIS bit couldn't get it loose. Wow. Vice grip pliers do have a time and place!
Tom
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Hard to find real branded Vise grips, and the cheap Chinese versions that everyone sells are junk. I've thrown away 3 in the past year.
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Also known as the Texas A&M knurling tool.
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Can't imagine life without them.
Especially on this project. Decided to uglyfi the griso. May need to borrow Chucks hacksaw when done. We'll see. :laugh:
(http://thumb.ibb.co/i8Wvmw/IMG_1165.jpg) (http://ibb.co/i8Wvmw)
(http://thumb.ibb.co/ddjgRw/IMG_1167.jpg) (http://ibb.co/ddjgRw)
Having worked in a weld shop for years doing fit up, I love the vise grip clamps. As an ex motorcycle mechanic I hate regular visegrips for the number of rounded off nuts from idiots that used them as wrenches.
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Ok, here's the finished rack. I'm no pro fabricator but I think I can live with it. I was tired of strapping my mustang bag down on the seat and having to remove it to lift the seat off. I couldn't find an aftermarket rack I liked as most seem too small, or sit too low and cover the tail light. Then I saw what they charged for them and decided I had nothing to loose but $25 dollars worth of steel tubing. It was a fun project and it has been a while since I tried welding thin tube. I'm thinking about making some C-bow plates to add to the sides and then I could share the bags from another bike. Would have been an impossible job without the vise grips. Opinion's welcome. :violent1:
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For those less talented than Lucian Ventura tail racks are some what similar and have work well for me w/their soft luggage on many bikes. R3~
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I had actually wanted the Stucchi rack but the supplier was out and then never got back to me. I think they are no longer available. I did not know about vetura, but wasn't too crazy about the givi.
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your rack looks real swell ! I like what you did to improve the Griso.
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your rack looks real swell ! I like what you did to improve the Griso.
Thank's FotoG, it's far from perfect but it's function over form for what it is. It's always fun to try and create something from the scrap heap and I always seem to learn something in the process.
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I've never told another man he had a nice rack, but that looks good! Well done... :bow:
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I've never told another man he had a nice rack, but that looks good! Well done... :bow:
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Fantastic job!
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Thanks GG, you're a kind soul. :bow:
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Rear racks are so useful that it doesn't matter what they look like!
Well, what they look like does matter, at least a little. I'm not proud of the aesthetics and I tip my hat the OP for his fine work. But this rig did the job until I found the Hepco u. Becker model. And when a guy only has a hammer, a vice, ViceGrips and a piece of old railroad rail as an anvil, you get a lot more function than form. That being said, I got thousands of miles use from this rack. It never failed, left no marks on the machine, was pretty easy to install and remove, and was very recyclable at the end of its life.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/fqs1Bw/Rack_on_Guzzi.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fqs1Bw)
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Well LeRoy, it looks fine in use. I guess maybe it's better removed when not in use though. :)
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Well, what they look like does matter, at least a little. I'm not proud of the aesthetics and I tip my hat the OP for his fine work. But this rig did the job until I found the Hepco u. Becker model. And when a guy only has a hammer, a vice, ViceGrips and a piece of old railroad rail as an anvil, you get a lot more function than form. That being said, I got thousands of miles use from this rack. It never failed, left no marks on the machine, was pretty easy to install and remove, and was very recyclable at the end of its life.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/fqs1Bw/Rack_on_Guzzi.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fqs1Bw)
(https://thumb.ibb.co/j3xCJb/Rack_and_Bags_on_Guzzi.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j3xCJb)
:thumb: Nice job Leroy. For me half the fun of a motorcycle is improvising things to fit your needs. It's little projects like these that keeps a man sane.
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Attaboy, Lucian.. :thumb: That's a nice piece of fabrication..
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WOW!
Great job Lucian.
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Hard to find real branded Vise grips, and the cheap Chinese versions that everyone sells are junk. I've thrown away 3 in the past year.
So......sounds like your decision to buy cheap is the problem. :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: A bad American business decision was made.
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Nice work Lucian. Dont want to hijack. Thought I would show another alternative. Last summer I needed a rack on short term notice for my R1150RT. I brainstormed for a couple days what materials and processes were at hand. Considered making from 12mm hyd tubing bent at work at welded at home, but not much experience weld and no time for a learning curve. Settled on $20 of rigid copper water lines sweated. It turned out very stiff and is no worse for wear after 2up trip across country. Includes center attachment by lashing learned in Scouts.
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Lucian...Good work. Matt, one of my friends did the same for his K75s. He's a plumber.
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Dave, great work. Nothing beats building it yourself.
Joe
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Along the lines of fabricating racks, has anyone here tried fabbing a copy of the H-B "hoop" with the latch plate?
I'm interested in making mounts for H-B luggage for two of my bikes, neither of which H-B makes (or has ever made, AFAIK) mounts to fit.
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Along the lines of fabricating racks, has anyone here tried fabbing a copy of the H-B "hoop" with the latch plate?
I'm interested in making mounts for H-B luggage for two of my bikes, neither of which H-B makes (or has ever made, AFAIK) mounts to fit.
The last one I did, I just bought some generic HB mounts, used the hoop, and did whatever it took to fit it to the bike.
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Thank's for all the kind replies. I've been told a lot of things but having a nice rack was never one of them. :laugh: :laugh:
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Ought to be able to tie a milk crate down nicely on that!
I wish I had your skill, I would love to make some changes to my EV similar without cutting the OEM rack. Nice work!
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Along the lines of fabricating racks, has anyone here tried fabbing a copy of the H-B "hoop" with the latch plate?
I'm interested in making mounts for H-B luggage for two of my bikes, neither of which H-B makes (or has ever made, AFAIK) mounts to fit.
Just came across this post while looking for something else. I don't know if your Mille GT is one of the bikes you want a rack for, but H-B does make a rack/pannier hanger combo for the Mille GT - I bought one for my bike a couple of years ago. As I remember, it was hard to find, but a shop in England (Moto International?) had them and the bonus was the exchange rate was favorable at the time.
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Hard to find real branded Vise grips, and the cheap Chinese versions that everyone sells are junk. I've thrown away 3 in the past year.
Vice Grips and Crescent Wrenches: two tools that I have never found an acceptable substitute for the name brand of.
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Can my 1400 rack be next:)
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I knew something was up when I saw this old thread re appear. :laugh: I'll see what I can do. Will have a look at the big ol girl this weekend and see If i can fab one up before the trip. I guess it's true that old LEO's never forget.
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I knew something was up when I saw this old thread re appear. :laugh: I'll see what I can do. Will have a look at the big ol girl this weekend and see If i can fab one up before the trip. I guess it's true that old LEO's never forget.
Lol, just funning buddy. You’ve got too much going on now, getting ready for your adventure. We’ve got all winter to play with that project:)
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I'm no pro fabricator
I dunno, looks like a bloody nice job to me :thumb:
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Just came across this post while looking for something else. I don't know if your Mille GT is one of the bikes you want a rack for, but H-B does make a rack/pannier hanger combo for the Mille GT - I bought one for my bike a couple of years ago. As I remember, it was hard to find, but a shop in England (Moto International?) had them and the bonus was the exchange rate was favorable at the time.
Nah, I already have a complete H-B rack for the MilleGT. What I'm interested in are rack systems for my Yamaha XT600 and my Commando.
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The title sounds like it could be from an old Firesign Theater album, Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers.
I've got an old luggage rack that used to be on my T, so it'd probably fit most Tonti framed bikes. I'll post a pic if anybody's interested in it. It meets your main criteria, it's certainly ugly!
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Nah, I already have a complete H-B rack for the MilleGT. What I'm interested in are rack systems for my Yamaha XT600 and my Commando.
Andover Norton carries a Hepco-Becker rack for the Commando, "all years." they list it under "luggage frame." Not cheap, but high quality. As I remember, the instructions came in German with an English translation that was barely adequate, but I eventually noodled out the 2 or 3 rough spots in the instructions.
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Vice Grips and Crescent Wrenches: two tools that I have never found an acceptable substitute for the name brand of.
I've got a bunch of Crescent brand pliers etc, but oddly, no Crescent brand crescent wrench.
Do people still call adjustable wrenches "crescent wrenches," or am I living in the past?
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I've got a bunch of Crescent brand pliers etc, but oddly, no Crescent brand crescent wrench.
Do people still call adjustable wrenches "crescent wrenches," or am I living in the past?
I think the terminology “lockjaw” pliers is fairly common.
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I've got a bunch of Crescent brand pliers etc, but oddly, no Crescent brand crescent wrench.
Do people still call adjustable wrenches "crescent wrenches," or am I living in the past?
I'm only 33, and I still call them crescent wrenches. So does everyone I work with. So I think you're fine, haha. :thumb:
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Lucian
Great job and well done. Looks great.
Oh, and the Griso in White is a fave of mine, like the Le Mans III in White.
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And that’s why I have over15 pair of them!
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Lucian
Great job and well done. Looks great.
Oh, and the Griso in White is a fave of mine, like the Le Mans III in White.
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Thank's Speedyg,, you'll like this shot then :thumb:
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Lucian,
thanks for sharing the pic.
Just needs a red le mans 850 :bow: in shot for perfection.
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White LM3s do it for me, too.. :thumb:
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I have a Winchester brand pipe wrench. Saved for that reason alone.
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Good work there Lucian. I find those rear luggage racks really useful.
For those less talented than Lucian Ventura tail racks are some what similar and have work well for me w/their soft luggage on many bikes. R3~
When I bought the Breva I negotiated some stuff to go with it, amongst other things a taller Ventura tail rack. I have a cheap pack attached and it is really useful. Permanently carries my tire compressor, a 500ml pack of oil, a dog turd tire patch kit and a pair of slip jaw pliers. These are to tweek the oil dipstick. Those who have experienced the slippery foot syndrome will understand that. :rolleyes:
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Very nice fab on the rack, impressive looking on the bike. Now you can put a back pad on it so your wife or girlfriend doesn’t fall off.I hear Griso s are chick magnets.
So instead of a counting cylinders survey, which hasn’t been done in awhile, a new survey topic is born, how many authentic vise grip tools do you own. Than we can move on to Roc straps or bungee cords.
Seriously nice Rack great job.
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Waiting on new switch
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Back in the day, and while on a Road Trip to Lake George, NY, I accidentally clipped a pylon and broke the tip off my shift lever on my 1977 Yamaha RD400.
I used a pair of Vise Grips as a make-shift lever to change gears, which was awkward, but got me home...about 3.5 hours away. :thumb: To this day, I carry a pair on every Road Trip I ever ridden on... :wink:
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I used to keep a pair clamped to the frame of my Bultaco Matador. That, and a rock could do a major overhaul on one of those boogers out in the woods. :grin: