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Title: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on February 06, 2018, 11:28:58 AM
Around 10 AM Pacific

 http://www.spacex.com/webcast
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
27 Merlin engines.  Radial or inline?   :grin:

That website says the launch is at 1:30 Eastern time. 
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: tazio on February 06, 2018, 12:27:54 PM
Delayed until 3:10pm Eastern time... Wind shear?
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 06, 2018, 12:44:23 PM
will set my alarm clock to 3pm ET (that's 4am for me)

there are several live feed in youtube now
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LeRoy on February 06, 2018, 12:48:00 PM
Just knowing that the Falcon Heavy rocket carries a Tesla Roadster as payload virtually guarantees a delayed launch  :grin:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 06, 2018, 01:02:14 PM
Alarm set..  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: steven c on February 06, 2018, 01:36:57 PM
 Now 3:45 ,wind shear.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 01:44:58 PM
anyone got a link to the live feed?  I can't find one that works.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 06, 2018, 01:54:45 PM
anyone got a link to the live feed?  I can't find one that works.

I am watching this, with sound

https://youtu.be/0KSr1RBsB4s
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 01:55:19 PM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on February 06, 2018, 01:57:19 PM
 They chose that model because there are no gas stations on mars.  Convertible won't be a problem because there is no rain either.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 06, 2018, 02:02:08 PM
I bet the car has solid (non pneumatic) tyres  :grin:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
I'd be hoping for caterpillar tracks.  Did they include extra batteries?

It must be fun to have so much money that you can afford to send a car to Mars "just because".
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 02:30:55 PM
15 minutes 40sec . .  .  feed went to real people just now.  Staff giving background and specs.  They all sound excited.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: O on February 06, 2018, 02:34:54 PM
Around 10 AM Pacific

 http://www.spacex.com/webcast

Thank you for the reminder!  I had meant to take some time at 1:30 to watch this, and completely forgot.  Glad I didn't miss it.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Gliderjohn on February 06, 2018, 02:36:40 PM
Just under 10 minutes.  :thumb:
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Tom on February 06, 2018, 02:45:42 PM
Supposedly Elon wants the title of "fastest car".  He'll have to do a rethink on the title.  The Moon buggy is/has been the fastest car for some time and actually driven somewhere else than earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Roving_Vehicle
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 02:56:04 PM
That was fun.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: screamday on February 06, 2018, 02:56:42 PM
Holy crap....that was cool!! Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Gliderjohn on February 06, 2018, 02:57:50 PM
Yes!!!
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 06, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
very cool :thumb:

too bad didn't see how the center rocket landed on the floating pad.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 06, 2018, 03:04:47 PM
 All of those silly space science fiction books from the 1930's don't seem quite so silly now .

 Am I the only one who had an emotional response to this ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: RinkRat II on February 06, 2018, 03:08:25 PM


 No Dusty, the part that really got me was the synchronous landing of the boosters! WOW :thumb:

    Paul B :boozing:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 06, 2018, 03:12:39 PM
 ^^^

 Same here Paul , that was amazing , and is what made me think about those old sci-fi novels where rockets routinely landed at spaceports .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 06, 2018, 03:14:22 PM

 No Dusty, the part that really got me was the synchronous landing of the boosters! WOW :thumb:

    Paul B :boozing:

*That* was freakin awesome! Did you see the "Don't panic" placard on the Tesla?  :smiley: :smiley: I had one of those on Mouser for a while..
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: guzzisteve on February 06, 2018, 03:15:49 PM
So, the car is still out there flying?
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on February 06, 2018, 03:17:02 PM
 
 Am I the only one who had an emotional response to this ?
 Dusty
It got a big round of applause in our office.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Motormike on February 06, 2018, 03:29:16 PM
 I got home just in time to watch the video stream.  Pretty cool, I gotta admit.  No Saturn V, but the closest we've had in a long while.  Really liked the simultaneous landing of the boosters!  I have to hand it to Musk and his team.  Hope they can keep going.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 06, 2018, 03:29:37 PM
So, the car is still out there flying?

Oh, yeah.. for another billion years or so.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on February 06, 2018, 03:37:24 PM
Oh, yeah.. for another billion years or so.

Too far out for a fly and drive then?
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 06, 2018, 03:45:49 PM
Oh, yeah.. for another billion years or so.

 Hmm

 
Too far out for a fly and drive then?

 Maybe the car is how Veeger really gets back  :rolleyes:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 06, 2018, 03:57:19 PM
So, I'm *assuming* there was a problem with the third booster landing?
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on February 06, 2018, 04:01:17 PM
They lost communication according to the news, I don't know if that means it crashed.

But all in all a fabulous effort.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: bad Chad on February 06, 2018, 04:59:06 PM
That was thrilling!  The trust of 18 747s!!    Space x is really blazing a trail to the future.   As I understand it the Tesla is going into orbit  circling the sun, not earth! 

I got emotional watching, thank god we can still do big things in this country, at least once in a while.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 05:05:53 PM
If there's any "emotional" reaction from me, it's satisfaction that private enterprise outdid NASA.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Gliderjohn on February 06, 2018, 05:09:07 PM
I didn't realize they would eject the shroud right away, so cool this red convertible with an "astronout" cruising to Mars.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: ohiorider on February 06, 2018, 05:27:00 PM
If there's any "emotional" reaction from me, it's satisfaction that private enterprise outdid NASA.
But, without trying to sound political, I don't think we (private enterprise) would have been here today without NASA's efforts throughout the space program.  Much like the internet (Arpanet) and other projects that were kick started by government. 

OK Dusty ....... delete me!

Bob
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: O on February 06, 2018, 05:37:32 PM
So, the car is still out there flying?

Live feed on the way to Mars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Wayne Orwig on February 06, 2018, 05:51:53 PM
I thought everyone knew that it was a Corvette in outer space. At least it was in the movie.

Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: bad Chad on February 06, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
If there's any "emotional" reaction from me, it's satisfaction that private enterprise outdid NASA.


 Come on brother, as much as I would love to discuss this with you, your comment begs to go "political ". And the powers that be have made it clear, that's not going to fly here.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 06:21:50 PM
Nothing political intended.  It goes back to my previous comment about how nice it would be to have the money to send your car to mars, simply as ballast for your rocket.  Here's a man who's willing to take on a project that was heretofore simply too massive for a private enterprise to either finance or execute.  That's what I was saying.  If you want to make it political, it's on you.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 06, 2018, 06:26:01 PM


 Come on brother, as much as I would love to discuss this with you, your comment begs to go "political ". And the powers that be have made it clear, that's not going to fly here.

Just take it off line.. <shrug> that's pretty easy.  Want to make it a three way? <Uh oh..>  :smiley:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 06, 2018, 07:00:22 PM
It was incredible.  Reminded me of being in grade school and watching the Mercury flights on b/w TV. 

Seeing those two stages drop their gear and land simultaneously was quite site.

Musk is claiming this vehicle will cost $90M per launch, the NASA big rocket will cost nearly a $ billion. 

And Musk is working on an even bigger rocket, that he calls BFR.   :grin:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 07:59:12 PM
Haha.  I just got spanked for mentioning Musk and NASA in the same post.  Maybe you'll do better.   :evil:

The video of the landings was so surreal that I thought it was an artist's conception rather than live feed (there were supposed to be three landing -- what happened to the other one?).  Aside from the synchronized and simultaneous touchdowns, I was particularly impressed that as the missile was descending, the rockets fired, and then the legs deployed -- into the direction of travel!  I can't hardly hold my arms into the wind at 70mph.  The forces opposing the extension of the legs must be tremendous!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 06, 2018, 08:06:53 PM
#3 didn't make it.

2 of 3 engines didn't ignite and down in the ocean at 300 mph.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: twowings on February 06, 2018, 08:09:04 PM
I wonder what kind of OIL they used in the roadster??  :cool:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on February 06, 2018, 08:10:13 PM
Just imagine some form of intelligent life comes across a  Tesla floating out there in a million years or so, they will have a hard job explaining that away LOL


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Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 08:25:12 PM
I wonder what kind of OIL they used in the roadster??  :cool:

It's electric.  No oil.  Dielectric grease.   :evil:

Could you imagine if the Tesla's battery is still good when someone (or something) finds it?
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Rhodan on February 06, 2018, 08:28:07 PM
THAT was cool!!!!  Thanks for including the link, I'd missed seeing the launch earlier.  LOVED watching the booster rockets land back at Cape Can.  Still smiling.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 06, 2018, 09:11:18 PM
Just imagine some form of intelligent life comes across a  Tesla floating out there in a million years or so, they will have a hard job explaining that away LOL


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Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 06, 2018, 09:13:51 PM
It's electric.  No oil.  Dielectric grease.   :evil:

Could you imagine if the Tesla's battery is still good when someone (or something) finds it?

I am surprised the tires didn't blow in the vacuum of space
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 09:38:00 PM
There are a lot of components in an electric car that might act unexpectedly at zero gravity and zero pressure.  It's too bad we won't be recovering it in time to benefit from an analysis.  But I don't think an IC car would do as well.  (is there a smiley to emphasize statements of the obvious?)

Too bad they lost a booster.  But two out of three ain't bad.  In the old money it was 100% loss and expensive garbage raining from the heavens at every launch.  Even as a little kid watching Redstone and Mercury launches on the old B&W I thought the burn-and-crash approach was silly.  Why NOT use the boosters again?  This step forward in recycling is predicted to drop a zero from the cost of a mission.  When they figure out an economical fuel they'll have the solar system commute problem licked.

I can see this coming together with the reusable vehicle concept to make moon mining/colonization and perhaps the (next haute vacation spot) possible within my grandkids' lifetime.  It might become possible to shoot carbon and nuclear waste into the sun economically even sooner than that. 

And Musk is going to own it.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 06, 2018, 09:45:18 PM
 Yeah , Musk will own it , until pirates move in  :shocked: More accurately , his grandchildren will own the most lucrative refuse disposal business ever .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2018, 09:55:11 PM
He's got some launch cycles to run before I want him putting a match to a 3-booster bomb tipped with nuclear waste near MY town.  His car is one thing.  Drums of Uranium are another.  I'll let him practice with carbon.   :afro:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: tris on February 07, 2018, 02:01:24 AM
I mean DAMN!!

Thanks  - Roy

Its good to see that mankind hasn't completely lost its ability to do PROPER old fashioned risky Engineering and succeed (in the main)




Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 07, 2018, 02:34:07 AM
I mean DAMN!!

Thanks  - Roy

Its good to see that mankind hasn't completely lost its ability to do PROPER old fashioned risky Engineering and succeed (in the main)

well said

sadly, most people more interested in iPhoneX launch than a SpaceX launch
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Zoom Zoom on February 07, 2018, 04:50:52 AM
It was incredible.  Reminded me of being in grade school and watching the Mercury flights on b/w TV. 

Seeing those two stages drop their gear and land simultaneously was quite site.

Musk is claiming this vehicle will cost $90M per launch, the NASA big rocket will cost nearly a $ billion. 

And Musk is working on an even bigger rocket, that he calls BFR.   :grin:

Growing up, I lived about 12 miles West of Orlando, Fl. During the Mercury program, it was a common occurrence for our entire school to go out on the playground when they were launching at Cape Canaveral. Amazing then and amazing now!

Wouldn't mind watching this through my audio system while watching the flat screen.

John Henry 
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 07, 2018, 05:56:33 AM
(https://smp.vgc.no/v2/images/c9e64188-87e4-4868-8f68-a808014b3080?fit=crop&h=1186&w=1900&s=4ddfac1bcbadf191a18d3e345f1147553523d8cd)
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: tris on February 07, 2018, 06:09:50 AM
I think its a fantastic achievement, but one point of comment

They claim on their web site that its "THE WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL ROCKET"

They should insert the word "TODAY" at the end of that sentence I think

The Saturn 5 would lift double the Falcon Heavy payload into low earth orbit and that was designed on the back of fag packets, stand drawing boards and slide rules

Old Wernher knew his stuff  :bow: :bow:

PS - I'm off to watch the vid again  :wink:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 07, 2018, 06:22:09 AM
this marks a new era in rocket science

(https://cdn.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/spacex-falcon-heavy-double-landing.gif)
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 07, 2018, 07:45:00 AM
I think its a fantastic achievement, but one point of comment

They claim on their web site that its "THE WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL ROCKET"

They should insert the word "TODAY" at the end of that sentence I think

The Saturn 5 would lift double the Falcon Heavy payload into low earth orbit and that was designed on the back of fag packets, stand drawing boards and slide rules

Old Wernher knew his stuff  :bow: :bow:

PS - I'm off to watch the vid again  :wink:

Yes, my friend Ed the Rocket Scientist, was one of the principle scientists on the Lunar missions. He told me that the guys that strapped in *knew* it was a calculated risk. But.. If they knew just how much calculating was actually going on, they never would have gotten on that rocket.   :grin:
He was still using his slide rule when I first met him in the late 70s.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rdbandkab on February 07, 2018, 08:09:15 AM
this marks a new era in rocket science

(https://cdn.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/spacex-falcon-heavy-double-landing.gif)

That looks so surreal..  It's almost too perfect!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: guzzisteve on February 07, 2018, 08:19:16 AM
(https://smp.vgc.no/v2/images/c9e64188-87e4-4868-8f68-a808014b3080?fit=crop&h=1186&w=1900&s=4ddfac1bcbadf191a18d3e345f1147553523d8cd)
Must be at a low point for a trade in, cheaper to launch it. Maybe he's waiting to get a pic of someone as a passenger.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 07, 2018, 08:53:53 AM
"It appears the super-strong rocket, with twice the firing power of any before it, overshot that trajectory and is has now pushed the Tesla into an orbit which extends into the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter."

"Right now, a bright red sports car is careering through space on a journey that has taken it from Florida out into space, where it will travel beyond Mars and toward the Asteroid Belt. The whimsical payload of yesterday's SpaceX Falcon Heavy launch, CEO Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster, is hoped to fly through space for a billion years or so.

Unfortunately for Musk, radiation from the sun and a barrage of space junk might make that dream impossible. According to Indiana University chemist William Carroll, the car may not even make it through a single year, LiveScience reports."
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: tris on February 07, 2018, 08:55:00 AM
That looks so surreal..  It's almost too perfect!

Even more so when you think about the engineering behind it

Those 2 boosters start (say) 20 foot apart at high altitude, separate from the main booster, do a loop so that the're upright, land I guess 1/2 mile apart and all without crashing into each other in between

Remarkable
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: cbrider on February 07, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
Yeah, watching those two boosters landing together was almost like a science fiction movie. Just incredible what those people have accomplished.

And that roadster is farther from a re-charge station than any electric vehicle ever!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 07, 2018, 09:39:01 AM
I have this question since many years ago

If we (human) keep on sending earth matters and elements in the form of spacecrafts and fuel out from the earth to outter space, will it cause something bad in the long run?

Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 07, 2018, 11:59:25 AM
I have this question since many years ago

If we (human) keep on sending earth matters and elements in the form of spacecrafts and fuel out from the earth to outter space, will it cause something bad in the long run?

 You mean some alien race is gonna get mad at us for littering up their neighborhood and send out a clean up crew made up of creatures that resemble giant Komodo Dragons ? :shocked:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 07, 2018, 12:55:15 PM
I'd bet that car probably won't last a year out there. Musk has a good sense of humor.

:-)

I thought it was hilarious.. :thumb:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: JJ on February 07, 2018, 01:04:02 PM
You mean some alien race is gonna get mad at us for littering up their neighborhood and send out a clean up crew made up of creatures that resemble giant Komodo Dragons ? :shocked:

 Dusty

I like what the great Physicist, Dr. Stephen Hawkins says...something to the affect:

"The day in the future when an alien species finally visits our earth...will not be a good day..." :shocked: :shocked:


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Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 07, 2018, 01:10:35 PM
We're not very far from being assimilated by the silicon based life forms anyway.. all the kids have them now.  :shocked:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Aaron D. on February 07, 2018, 01:20:58 PM
Each booster made a triple sonic boom-all of which arrived about 30 seconds after landing!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 07, 2018, 01:40:27 PM
I like what the great Physicist, Dr. Stephen Hawkins says...something to the affect:

"The day in the future when an alien species finally visits our earth...will not be a good day..." :shocked: :shocked:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/k75sYx/Screen_Shot_2018_02_07_at_12_00_20_PM.png) (http://ibb.co/k75sYx)


We just need to have Slim Whitman's "Indian Love Call" ready and waiting.  :wink:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfTORdsPspw
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on February 07, 2018, 02:28:34 PM
Did anyone else notice, almost zero news coverage?
Nothing on the 7 o'clock news.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Aaron D. on February 07, 2018, 03:18:29 PM
You need better news, it was all over the place!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Gliderjohn on February 07, 2018, 05:55:10 PM
Or this... :evil:

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photo gallery online (http://imgbb.com/)


GliderJohn
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 07, 2018, 06:09:53 PM
 ^^^ That's funny John  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 08, 2018, 03:49:00 AM
You mean some alien race is gonna get mad at us for littering up their neighborhood and send out a clean up crew made up of creatures that resemble giant Komodo Dragons ? :shocked:

 Dusty

please let me know if you captured one, I am sure it worth one thousand times more than a rhino horn or shark fins over here  :afro:

if we sent a ton of metal out of the earth, the earth will have a ton of that material lesser. I would imagine the earth as a closed system like a closed eco system, it is in equilibrium since the birth of earth and one thing will affect the other
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: DorsetBlue on February 08, 2018, 04:11:44 AM
please let me know if you captured one, I am sure it worth one thousand times more than a rhino horn or shark fins over here  :afro:

if we sent a ton of metal out of the earth, the earth will have a ton of that material lesser. I would imagine the earth as a closed system like a closed eco system, it is in equilibrium since the birth of earth and one thing will affect the other

Firstly, its all relative.  1 tonne (or even all of the tonnes that have been launched so far) are insignificant against the mass of the Earth.  Secondly, the Earth may be gaining more than that mass back via Meteorites (or it might not be):

https://briankoberlein.com/2015/12/15/is-earth-gaining-mass-or-losing-mass (https://briankoberlein.com/2015/12/15/is-earth-gaining-mass-or-losing-mass)
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on February 08, 2018, 04:23:13 AM
It will be interesting to see how the car 'weathers' without any protection from solar radiation.  Anyone know if there was special surface protection put on the satellite-car?
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 08, 2018, 04:23:36 AM
Thanks for the link, it is an interesting read  :laugh:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: KiwiKev on February 08, 2018, 05:09:37 AM
Did anyone else notice, almost zero news coverage?
Nothing on the 7 o'clock news.
It was on the news here Roy though we were down at Harry’s so saw it on the small screen.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Gliderjohn on February 08, 2018, 06:43:17 AM
From Nic:
Quote
Anyone know if there was special surface protection put on the satellite-car?

Probably only the dealer "add on protection" that they try to sell you. Bottle of Scotchguard?
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 08, 2018, 02:24:14 PM
From Nic:
Probably only the dealer "add on protection" that they try to sell you. Bottle of Scotchguard?
GliderJohn


That Trucoat.........  they install it at the factory ya know. .... you betcha.


https://youtu.be/E5gwc4UizUc


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Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 08, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
 The Tesla was dipped in Yak Fat , that stuff will last forever  :rolleyes:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Gliderjohn on February 08, 2018, 06:08:11 PM
From Dusty:
Quote
The Tesla was dipped in Yak Fat , that stuff will last forever  :rolleyes:

Ah! Cosmoline.  :grin:
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: twowings on February 08, 2018, 06:33:03 PM
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'He's fleeing the interview!'
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 08, 2018, 07:00:47 PM
Oh Geez!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Darren Williams on February 08, 2018, 08:22:08 PM
Truth is Musk sent his roadster to outer space to get rid of it, when he found out how much it would cost to replace the dead batteries.   :evil:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 08, 2018, 08:55:42 PM
Truth is Musk sent his roadster to outer space to get rid of it, when he found out how much it would cost to replace the dead batteries.   :evil:

Well, he loses on the insurance then, because there's too much evidence that it wasn't really stolen.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: guzzisteve on February 09, 2018, 09:23:44 AM
Lot's of conspiracy folks saying it's in a studio.   
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 09, 2018, 09:55:22 AM
Lot's of conspiracy folks saying it's in a studio.

"You'll never lose money betting on the stupidity of the American public.."
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 09, 2018, 10:29:13 AM
Lot's of conspiracy folks saying it's in a studio.

 Yeah ...

 Good way to sell books , most conspiracy theorists are gnu gnu heads with gnu gnu head followers .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 09, 2018, 10:33:52 AM
(https://www.gnu.org/graphics/philosophical-gnu.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 09, 2018, 11:01:33 AM
 Clever Chuckie , very clever  :grin:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 09, 2018, 11:59:04 AM
The conspiracy theorists amuse me.  They're not looking for truth.  They're looking for conspiracies.  All they need to do to prove it one way or the other is to attend a launch.  A proper theorist won't do that though.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Gliderjohn on February 09, 2018, 01:27:51 PM
They should launch another car and ask one of these conspiracy folk to take the seat in the roadster. Since it is in a studio they would have nothing to fear, correct? :roll eyes:
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 09, 2018, 01:28:56 PM
"You'll never lose money betting on the stupidity of the American public.."

wanna bet?
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Lannis on February 09, 2018, 01:33:09 PM
...... never lose money betting ......."

Any statement including that phrase is automatically false on the face of it!!  :wink:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rdbandkab on February 09, 2018, 01:40:17 PM
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All they need to do to prove it one way or the other is to attend a launch.  A proper theorist won't do that though.

What I'd really like to attend is one of the booster landings!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 09, 2018, 01:47:24 PM
Any statement including that phrase is automatically false on the face of it!!  :wink:

wanna bet?
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 09, 2018, 01:48:39 PM
What I'd really like to attend is one of the booster landings!

I gotta feeling that spectators can't get too close.    :shocked:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Lannis on February 09, 2018, 02:37:10 PM
wanna bet?

I'll bet that someone will lose money if I DO bet .... !
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 09, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
I'll bet that someone will lose money if I DO bet .... !

that's generally true.    :wink:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Tom on February 09, 2018, 03:46:50 PM
Biggest and legalized gambling in the world......the stock market.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Lannis on February 09, 2018, 05:39:37 PM
Biggest and legalized gambling in the world......the stock market.

Day-trading is gambling.   Although a smart guy working full time with a lot of analysis software is like a guy counting cards at a blackjack table - he can bend the odds in his direction but STILL might lose.

Long-term dollar-averaging investing in the stock market is NOT gambling, and hasn't been for 120 years .... !

Lannis
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rdbandkab on February 10, 2018, 07:15:48 AM
I gotta feeling that spectators can't get too close.    :shocked:

What the heck...   I'll hide behind some scrubbrush!   

I'd still like to be close enough to see them nearing their platforms.   It's just so crazy to me that those stabilizers can keep them upright.   The sonic booms would be a bonus too!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 10, 2018, 07:38:47 AM
What the heck...   I'll hide behind some scrubbrush!   

I'd still like to be close enough to see them nearing their platforms.   It's just so crazy to me that those stabilizers can keep them upright.   The sonic booms would be a bonus too!

so far this is the best landing video I saw in YouTube, I watch it again and again these few days

https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rdbandkab on February 10, 2018, 07:52:30 AM
Now that's the shot I wanted!  Awesome!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 10, 2018, 10:12:23 AM
so far this is the best landing video I saw in YouTube, I watch it again and again these few days

https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ

 
Now that's the shot I wanted!  Awesome!

 Yes , that is amazing  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: steven c on February 10, 2018, 08:36:51 PM
 Thanks haven't seen that one,man they are coming in fast.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: KiwiKev on February 11, 2018, 03:20:14 AM
What happened to number three ? Did it splat into the ocean ?


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Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Guzzi Gal on February 11, 2018, 06:48:39 AM
so far this is the best landing video I saw in YouTube, I watch it again and again these few days

https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ

:1: Seriously impressive!  I haven't heard a sonic boom in decades, and never two in a row "close up".
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 11, 2018, 12:55:39 PM
What happened to number three ? Did it splat into the ocean ?


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It wasn't a "splat", but it did narrowly miss the floating target and sink.  I have not heard of plans to raise it.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: KiwiKev on February 11, 2018, 02:48:16 PM
It wasn't a "splat", but it did narrowly miss the floating target and sink.  I have not heard of plans to raise it.
Bugger, something to work on for next time then but a minor glitch in the overall launch.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: twowings on February 11, 2018, 02:56:29 PM
I heard they had to blow it up as a menace to navigation...
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: KiwiKev on February 11, 2018, 03:42:26 PM
:1: Seriously impressive!  I haven't heard a sonic boom in decades, and never two in a row "close up".
Bring back the Concorde ??
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: rodekyll on February 11, 2018, 03:44:19 PM
I heard they had to blow it up as a menace to navigation...

If it is retrievable, they'll fetch it.  It's got a lot of value for failure analysis.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Gliderjohn on February 11, 2018, 08:40:46 PM
Listen to the audio during the launch on this video, amazing. If possible put it through a stereo or good headphones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImoQqNyRL8Y&t=426s
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Phang on February 11, 2018, 11:52:02 PM
Listen to the audio during the launch on this video, amazing. If possible put it through a stereo or good headphones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImoQqNyRL8Y&t=426s
GliderJohn

Wow! that's a very clear audio and visual recording  :thumb:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on February 12, 2018, 04:48:11 AM
Amazing accomplishment, especially landing 2 of 3 of the engines.  I'm so old that I get irritated at things like:  1. Having to clap at your company's rocket launch; 2. Declaring your company's rocket launch a success before all elements are completed; 3. Not being transparent regarding the parameters of the launch, so when you overshoot your target by a few million miles, it's unclear whether that was a failure due to a thrust miscalculation or malfunction or whether it was intended to 'go as far as it could.' 

The amount of marketing and self-promotion is nauseating and wouldn't 'fly' with the old NASA crowd that got Apollo 12 through a lightning strike ('try SCE to AUX') and Apollo 13 around the moon and back with half the service module blown to bits.  Rant over.

Great accomplishment!
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: john fish on February 12, 2018, 05:42:31 PM
Nothing political intended.  It goes back to my previous comment about how nice it would be to have the money to send your car to mars, simply as ballast for your rocket.  Here's a man who's willing to take on a project that was heretofore simply too massive for a private enterprise to either finance or execute.  That's what I was saying.  If you want to make it political, it's on you.

Not being political, but Musk has benefited from over $4,000,000,000.00 in taxpayer funded assistance.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: oldbike54 on February 12, 2018, 05:48:27 PM
   






                                              <SIGH>

 Dusty








Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: bad Chad on February 12, 2018, 06:13:39 PM
   






                                              <SIGH>

 Dusty

Plus one  <SIGH>
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Tom on February 12, 2018, 07:13:25 PM
   






                                              <SIGH>

 Dusty

I must have missed something.   :grin:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: LowRyter on February 12, 2018, 07:18:04 PM
Not being political, but Musk has benefited from over $4,000,000,000.00 in taxpayer funded assistance.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html

And if you've kept up with the news, you'll learn that the NASA expects to sell off the International Space Station in the next few years. 

Bear in mind the big Spacex rocket should cost 1/10 the cost of NASA's design.  I have an equal preference of ZERO for the one I want to fly.  So dying in a rocket at 1/10 the cost I suppose is a bargain.   :shocked:
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: KiwiKev on February 13, 2018, 01:13:42 AM
And if you've kept up with the news, you'll learn that the NASA expects to sell off the International Space Station in the next few years. 

Bear in mind the big Spacex rocket should cost 1/10 the cost of NASA's design.  I have an equal preference of ZERO for the one I want to fly.  So dying in a rocket at 1/10 the cost I suppose is a bargain.   :shocked:
Wait for Richard Branson’s space flights, they will be cheap (relatively) and safe (maybe)
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Aaron D. on February 13, 2018, 06:25:45 AM
Maybe, but Branson's is the only current private space program to suffer a fatality. if memory serves.
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: tris on February 13, 2018, 09:41:59 AM
It doesn't get old watching those 2 boosters land  :bow:

However, I have an important question

Its clear that SpaceX can control the boosters to get them to land

HOWEVER when they land on the drone ship, even with stabilisers the deck will still be pitching, heaving and rolling to some extent, so what stops the booster sliding over the side and/or simply falling over. :huh: :huh:

Naval choppers use a harpoon to hold them to the deck. Do these boosters have something similar?
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: Gliderjohn on February 13, 2018, 10:59:25 AM
From tris:
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HOWEVER when they land on the drone ship, even with stabilisers the deck will still be pitching, heaving and rolling to some extent, so what stops the booster sliding over the side and/or simply falling over.

This may help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_spaceport_drone_ship
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Big Ass Rocket Launch
Post by: tris on February 14, 2018, 03:14:10 AM
From tris:
This may help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_spaceport_drone_ship
GliderJohn

Aha - that helps John

Operation
A tug, Elsbeth III on the east coast, is used to bring the ASDS to its oceanic position. During rocket landing operations a support ship, Go Quest on the east coast, is typically standing by some distance away from the crewless ASDS.[35] Following landing, technicians and engineers will board the landing platform, and secure the rocket's landing legs to lock the vehicle in place for transport back to port.[3] The rocket stage is secured to the deck of the drone ship with steel hold downs welded on to the feet of the landing legs.[36] In June 2017, OCISLY started being deployed with a robot that drives under the rocket and grabs onto the hold-down clamps located on the outside of the Falcon 9's structure after landing.[37] Fans call the robot "Optimus Prime" or "Roomba," the latter of which has been turned into a backronym for "Remotely Operated Orientation and Mass Balance Adjustment."[38]


After posting, I had found a report that said after the booster had landed, a bunch of lads jumped on board the drone ship and welded the steel pads on the feet of the landing legs to the deck - i.e. good old fashioned sea fasteners!!!

Give the rest of the technology surrounding this endeavour, I'm glad to see that there's a robot called Optimus Prime roaming about the deck to grab the booster