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Title: For all you Art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: JJ on March 08, 2018, 04:20:19 PM
Get a load of this little work of "ART" for only $110 MILLION!!!  (My...my!!)  :laugh: :grin: :wink:

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

https://www.seattlepi.com/thingstodo/article/The-priciest-U-S-art-ever-sold-is-coming-to-12732743.php?google_editors_pick s=true


(http://thumb.ibb.co/ikiECn/Screen_Shot_2018_03_08_at_3_10_05_PM.png) (http://ibb.co/ikiECn)
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: nc43bsa on March 08, 2018, 04:30:23 PM
Looks like something a moderately talented middle-school student could have done during art camp.
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Lannis on March 08, 2018, 04:33:09 PM
Looks like something a moderately talented middle-school student could have done during art camp.

Probably was.   He's set up with Skittles and video games for the rest of his life .....
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: JJ on March 08, 2018, 04:34:11 PM
Looks like something a moderately talented middle-school student could have done during art camp.

C'mon now...you know it's really worth $110M!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: blackcat on March 08, 2018, 05:35:41 PM
Probably was.   He's set up with Skittles and video games for the rest of his life .....

Basquiat is dead and he did not make much art work given his short life(27) on earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Michel_Basquiat

A couple of years ago, I was contacted by an art restoration firm to remove a drawing he did from a wall in his ex-girl friend's apartment in (east village) NYC. I gave them a price to do the work ($50K) and it seemed like it was going to happen until they wanted me to cover the full cost of the work if it was damaged in the removal, so I passed.  Christie's auctioned it off for somewhere north of a $500,000, but that is from memory. This was the piece painted on the wall:

 (https://www.christies.com/img/LotImages/2014/NYR/2014_NYR_02824_0044_000(jean-michel_basquiat_untitled).jpg?height=400)
https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/jean-michel-basquiat-1960-1988-untitled-olive-oyl-5772465-details.aspx


He was a great artists and if you think that modern art is easy to do, then please give it a try.

One of the greatest pieces of art in the modern world was part of a series of ready made works by Marcel Duchamp:

(http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/T/T07/T07573_10.jpg)
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Lannis on March 08, 2018, 05:48:39 PM
Basquiat is dead and he did not make much art work given his short life(27) on earth.


I was actually referring to the middle school kid who was presented as the possible "artist".    Obviously, tastes differ ....

Lannis
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 08, 2018, 05:51:36 PM
I truly don't get it. A downspout coming out of the wall? 5 blocks of different color?
Give me a break.
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Lannis on March 08, 2018, 05:57:45 PM
I truly don't get it. A downspout coming out of the wall? 5 blocks of different color?
Give me a break.

Hey, if you think it's easy, give it a try!   I've been scribbling on urinals for YEARS and no one's ever offered me a penny, though ....

Lannis
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: JJ on March 09, 2018, 07:08:43 AM
Art...like many motorcycle model...appeals to a variety of tastes and styles. 

This piece was left in the house I bought 2 years ago in Vortex-Land... :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

While I can appreciate the technique and color, etc., it sort of creeped my wife and I out...(like something out of "Night Gallery"), so off it went to the VOC Thrift Store, where the proceeds going to the local Animal Shelter.


(http://thumb.ibb.co/e78w8S/IMG_5257.jpg) (http://ibb.co/e78w8S)
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: kingoffleece on March 09, 2018, 07:15:28 AM
Not even the Campbell's soup can in worth that much.  Just sayin.............

Meanwhile, I can go look at Blue Boy any day I'd like.
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: JJ on March 09, 2018, 07:33:07 AM
Not even the Campbell's soup can in worth that much.  Just sayin.............

Meanwhile, I can go look at Blue Boy any day I'd like.

C'mon now....One of Andy Warhol's best works from the 60's!!! (lol)  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/iACpTS/Screen_Shot_2018_03_09_at_6_31_10_AM.png) (http://ibb.co/iACpTS)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/dvSZv7/Screen_Shot_2018_03_09_at_6_31_35_AM.png) (http://ibb.co/dvSZv7)
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Sheepdog on March 09, 2018, 09:05:32 AM
Back in the seventies I was stationed at West Point with the MP/Honor Guard unit. The theater was named Eisenhower Hall and had a number of panels from Andy Warhol’s “Mao” in the lobby (on loan). I’m not sure why, but that always tickled me...

(http://image.ibb.co/kesedS/BCFE3_BB2_B236_429_C_B951_AEF32_C9_CB5_E0.jpg) (http://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: chuck peterson on March 09, 2018, 09:19:00 AM
Basquiat is dead and he did not make much art work given his short life(27) on earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Michel_Basquiat

A couple of years ago, I was contacted by an art restoration firm to remove a drawing he did from a wall in his ex-girl friend's apartment in (east village) NYC. I gave them a price to do the work ($50K) and it seemed like it was going to happen until they wanted me to cover the full cost of the work if it was damaged in the removal, so I passed.  Christie's auctioned it off for somewhere north of a $500,000, but that is from memory. This was the piece painted on the wall:

 (https://www.christies.com/img/LotImages/2014/NYR/2014_NYR_02824_0044_000(jean-michel_basquiat_untitled).jpg?height=400)
https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/jean-michel-basquiat-1960-1988-untitled-olive-oyl-5772465-details.aspx


He was a great artists and if you think that modern art is easy to do, then please give it a try.

One of the greatest pieces of art in the modern world was part of a series of ready made works by Marcel Duchamp:

(http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/T/T07/T07573_10.jpg)


What is it with you, bringing up the truth and all that?....... :popcorn:
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: blackcat on March 09, 2018, 09:35:15 AM

What is it with you, bringing up the truth and all that?....... :popcorn:

Truth is subjective nowadays.
 
(https://www.jackson-pollock.org/images/paintings/autumn-rhythm.jpg)

Another great American Artist and he painted this with regular old oil based house paint! Shit, I coulda done that.....

Given his hell raising, drinking and womanizing life I'm sure that Jackson would have been a Guzzi owner had he lived a little longer.
https://www.jackson-pollock.org
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: kingoffleece on March 09, 2018, 10:14:01 AM
We have several of his beauties on display at our Albright-Knox Gallery.  Along with some other great works.
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Zoom Zoom on March 09, 2018, 10:17:52 AM
I always enjoyed watching Bob Ross on Saturday mornings. I always figured I would like one of his paintings. Now that he has passed, I have no doubt they are way out of my price range. Sadly, oftentimes death has a way of raising the value of otherwise seemingly worthless paintings.

As someone already mentioned, someone somewhere sees beauty in some of these. I guess I don't get it, but that's ok too.

John Henry
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Toecutter on March 09, 2018, 10:45:43 AM
Quote
Shit, I coulda done that.....

But... you didn't.
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Lannis on March 09, 2018, 10:52:40 AM
I always enjoyed watching Bob Ross on Saturday mornings. I always figured I would like one of his paintings.

John Henry

I thought it was incredible how he would take a little spatula with some paint on it, whish-whoosh across the canvas, and there was a tree.   Take a little brush, dab dab dab, and there was a lake.  Take a bigger spatula and one two three there was a range of mountains, and it made a coherent whole, with perspective, depth, and color.   I can't imagine being able to coordinate my imagination, my hand, and my materials to create something like that ....

Lannis
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 09, 2018, 10:55:25 AM
Get a load of this little work of art for only $110 MILLION!!!  (My...my!!)  :laugh: :grin: :wink:

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

https://www.seattlepi.com/thingstodo/article/The-priciest-U-S-art-ever-sold-is-coming-to-12732743.php?google_editors_pick s=true


(http://thumb.ibb.co/ikiECn/Screen_Shot_2018_03_08_at_3_10_05_PM.png) (http://ibb.co/ikiECn)

I think you meant Art.. I like it and it represents just how I feel these days..

(https://photos.smugmug.com/All/i-QBghMPn/0/7c9dce20/M/circle%20truck_zpsdcr6sssm-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/All/i-QBghMPn/A)
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Lumpy Idle on March 09, 2018, 03:18:52 PM
i think there are two different, but tangential, discussions involved here. one is the topic of Art's worthiness and the other is of Art's Worth.  when you are buying a basquiat for basketloads of dosh you are investing.  you have people who carefully assess and evaluate the value of the piece in today's marketplace and weigh that against future valuation.  this is akin to buying a shopping center - except you get to hang it on your wall for a while.  Sure, maybe this guy really likes basquiat but that's not really the point. this is just the investment market pimping the art game. yes, i know, another question can be raised about how the work gets to the point where it fetches so much and a part of it is rarity - it helps to be dead to sell your work.
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: JJ on March 09, 2018, 03:23:45 PM
Back in the seventies I was stationed at West Point with the MP/Honor Guard unit. The theater was named Eisenhower Hall and had a number of panels from Andy Warhol�s �Mao� in the lobby (on loan). I�m not sure why, but that always tickled me...

(http://image.ibb.co/kesedS/BCFE3_BB2_B236_429_C_B951_AEF32_C9_CB5_E0.jpg) (http://imgbb.com/)

"The Chairman!!" :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/fhZR8S/Screen_Shot_2018_03_09_at_2_24_27_PM.png) (http://ibb.co/fhZR8S)
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: webmost on March 09, 2018, 04:18:20 PM

https://youtu.be/lNI07egoefc
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Kristian on March 09, 2018, 04:23:01 PM
Looks like something a moderately talented middle-school student could have done during art camp.

Nay. The thing is if a middle-schooler does it--which they never, ever, do--then you really have someone very special. It's a great piece.

But, the problem is the egos of people who pay that sort of crazy money for a painting; aren't there ten million other, better, things to do with your money once you've become a bilionaire?
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Yukonica on March 10, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
Please help out a 'not an art kind of guy'. What (aside from what the market is willing to pay) makes the image worth  that amount of money? I can understand large sums for something from that guy who chiseled humans out of marble a long time ago. Why is this image 'good' or apparently 'great'.
It looks like someone started a painting, decided to overpaint, then didn't like that version and kept going over and over. If modern art is an expression of self or is created with an inner meaning to be pondered out by the audience all I can say is: in my opinion this artist was pretty  ....ed up.
Title: Re: For all you art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Lannis on March 10, 2018, 11:24:52 AM
Please help out a 'not an art kind of guy'. What (aside from what the market is willing to pay) makes the image worth  that amount of money?

I think that a small group of people "agree" that this sort of thing has intrinsic value, based on who did it (see Jon Lovitz' SNL skit "I'm PICASSO!"), and they agree to trade them among themselves at huge prices.   

Sort of like Beanie Babies or Cabbage Patch Kids or various "Trading Cards" that people are interested in.   People even spend thousands on line for electronic icons used in video games, like a special super-gun in a "war game", for bragging rights.

There's no harm in it, but I don't see what else it could be.   If you "blind tested" a group of aficionados with a variety of paint splatters and yard junk and didn't tell them who did it .... well, I'll volunteer to try!

Like a guy buying a rusty non-stock "barn find" Shelby Cobra for $1M+ who will never touch it or restore it or start it ... just bragging rights ... If it's a replica that looks EXACTLY like an original Cobra it's worth scrap prices, if it IS an original, with Carroll's fingerprints on the floorboards, it's worth a million, even though both look and do exactly the same thing.
 
Just like the paint splatters or toilet junk picture.

Lannis
Title: Re: For all you Art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Turin on March 10, 2018, 02:00:56 PM
Another fine American artist, C.M. Coolidge is still somewhat underappreciated .

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/16/news/newsmakers/poker_dogs/ (http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/16/news/newsmakers/poker_dogs/)
Title: Re: For all you Art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: JJ on March 10, 2018, 05:22:16 PM
I always liked the Dutch and Italian masters...


(http://thumb.ibb.co/kxMmSn/Screen_Shot_2018_03_10_at_4_21_05_PM.png) (http://ibb.co/kxMmSn)


Johannes Vermeer, The Milkmaid (1658–1660)
Title: Re: For all you Art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: Turin on March 10, 2018, 06:08:45 PM
Here's Vermeer getting a little help from fatcatart
(https://shop.fatcatart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/wermeer.png)
Title: Re: For all you Art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: JJ on March 10, 2018, 06:40:14 PM
Here's Vermeer getting a little help from fatcatart
(https://shop.fatcatart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/wermeer.png)

 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :laugh: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: For all you Art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: kingoffleece on March 11, 2018, 07:10:07 PM
A lot of our collection will be available on Google HD vision.  The Albright-Knox has a fine assortment of new stuff and old masters.
This is brand new.  I just read about it today in the Sunday paper.
Title: Re: For all you Art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: JJ on March 12, 2018, 09:06:41 AM
A few more classics.... :laugh: :grin: :wink:

We have a fat, female orange Tabby named Miss Pinky Diva, who could be the poster kitty for FATCATART!! (lol)


(http://thumb.ibb.co/i8Ku07/Miss_Pinky.jpg) (http://ibb.co/i8Ku07)



(http://thumb.ibb.co/cOvEYS/Screen_Shot_2018_03_12_at_7_03_04_AM.png) (http://ibb.co/cOvEYS)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/d0xTtS/Screen_Shot_2018_03_12_at_7_03_14_AM.png) (http://ibb.co/d0xTtS)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/jPJe07/Screen_Shot_2018_03_12_at_7_03_25_AM.png) (http://ibb.co/jPJe07)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/eosTtS/Screen_Shot_2018_03_12_at_7_03_35_AM.png) (http://ibb.co/eosTtS)
Title: Re: For all you Art lovers....(NGC)
Post by: LowRyter on March 12, 2018, 11:18:53 PM
I could comment about how the uber rich squander money and so on and so forth but then I would be breaking Dusty's rules about political commentary. 

But I hope the buyer purchased it with Bitcoins.