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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lumpy Idle on March 08, 2018, 05:32:02 PM
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i saw a story posted on boing boing today about full year daylight savings time. florida and arizona are moving to inscribing full time daylight savings. i am all for it. i happen to be one of those who absolutely dreads it when the clocks roll back in the fall. i always see the daylight savings rollover as the advent of hope and renewal and time to pull my sorry ass out of the cave, get the tools out and start breathing life into dusty bike projects. let's have daylight savings all year. hell we can give the kids headlamp flashlights to go to school in the winter mornings. i'm easy - let's budget for that.
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i saw a story posted on boing boing today about full year daylight savings time. florida and arizona are moving to inscribing full time daylight savings. i am all for it. i happen to be one of those who absolutely dreads it when the clocks roll back in the fall. i always see the daylight savings rollover as the advent of hope and renewal and time to pull my sorry ass out of the cave, get the tools out and start breathing life into dusty bike projects. let's have daylight savings all year. hell we can give the kids headlamp flashlights to go to school in the winter mornings. i'm easy - let's budget for that.
Not sure it would work like that ... the world constantly adjusts. If kids are going to school in the dark, then the schools will shift their schedules so they AREN'T going to school in the dark, and businesses will gradually follow suit, and we'll be right back where we were ....
DST - making a blanket longer by cutting off one end and sewing it onto the other ....
Lannis
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Spring Forward & never look back!
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Personally I like the natural time, that means in the cold winter months I can be in bed by 6dark- O’clock:)
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I am pretty much consigned to working toward late evening, so I like it. If I never had to get off work again in the winter & it was already dark... I'd be a happy man. Sunset at 4:45pm sucks
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Standard time is for the dead. Bring on year long DLS!
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Year round DLS means it won't start getting light until about 9:30 AM in January .
Dusty
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We moved to Arizona our in 2001 and haven’t adjusted a clock since (excluding travel). It’s a beautiful thing! :thumb:
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We moved to Arizona our n 2001 and haven�t adjusted a clock since (excluding travel). It�s a beautiful thing! :thumb:
True. Indiana used to do that until.. dang.. Dusty just said no political rants. <shrug> :smiley:
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Does the daylight really vary much in AZ? Just curious.
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I've lived in Arizona 44 years now and am used to the "short " winter days and long summer days. Winter about 10 hours daylight is the shortest,
really no big deal and we don't have to worry about resetting the sundial. :evil:
Does the daylight really vary much in AZ? Just curious.
About 4 1/2 hours winter to summer
Paul B :boozing:
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I'm just not that into time, man...
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Daylight savings serves no real purpose anymore anyway. As another Arizona resident, I can tell you it would be great to have a permanent time zone instead of switching from mountain to pacific every year.
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I really don't care what time it's settled on, I would just ask that we don't change it twice a year.
I could care less otherwise. (But I USED to be very annoyed about changing it twice a year BEFORE I retired.)
(Now I am just moderately annoyed and only slightly amused.)
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I don't mind the time change from DST to standard and back. It means that I get to experience time travel twice a year.
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I'm just not that into time, man...
I remember being told time was invented so sh!t didn't happen all at once.
And I would rather keep it one way or the other so the clock setting thing twice a year is over with. Our company used to have regular hours and summer hours, summer hours being an hour earlier to change a hot hour for a cool morning one. You can adjust operation hours easier than resetting clocks?
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I really dislike seeing the sun go down at 4:30 in the afternoon. I'd be happy to stay on DST all year. Actually, we did for a year or two during the '70's energy crunch. I stood at the morning bus stop in pitch black that winter.
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I don't mind the time change from DST to standard and back. It means that I get to experience time travel twice a year.
I like that! :grin: :grin:
As for setting clocks, not such a big deal as it used to be, at least to me. With the exception of the coffee pot, all my clocks in the house self adjust. Yes, I have to set the clock in the car and on the bikes. Personally, I like it. It is the harbinger of Spring to me.
John Henry
PS: DO NOT ask Chuck about this. I made this mistake with someone in Indiana once............... ................... ............(Not Chuck)............... Oh wait, that is the Time Zone thing. Don't ask Chuck about that. :evil:
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PS: DO NOT ask Chuck about this. I made this mistake with someone in Indiana once............... ................... ............(Not Chuck)............... Oh wait, that is the Time Zone thing. Don't ask Chuck about that. :evil:
Can't take this antipathy toward time manipulation TOO far before Copernicus smacks you down!
DST is one thing - it's silly and artificial and doesn't really do anything as I'm sure Chuck will tell you although I don't know what he thinks is behind it ...
BUT the Time Zone thing is sorta due to the fact that the Earth is round and turns on its axis ... ? Not much you can do about that .... ? Some things you gotta just sigh and say "All right then".
Lannis
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Year round DLS means it won't start getting light until about 9:30 AM in January .
Dusty
DOn't care! I'm at work at 9:30 am... I'm more worried about 5:30-6:30 when I get off!
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Lannis, you need to look at the dividing line through the state for the time zone there.
John Henry
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Lannis, you need to look at the dividing line through the state for the time zone there.
John Henry
So I did. Yep, that's pretty bad ... Chuck, I take it back, your antipathy toward time zones is natural, given that some counties to the EAST of Eastern Time Zone counties are on CENTRAL time .... People can bollix a piss-up in a brewery when they're "motivated" to ....
Lannis
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I remember being told time was invented so sh!t didn't happen all at once.
And I would rather keep it one way or the other so the clock setting thing twice a year is over with. Our company used to have regular hours and summer hours, summer hours being an hour earlier to change a hot hour for a cool morning one. You can adjust operation hours easier than resetting clocks?
Let's just say f*** it and go riding! That's my way of ignoring time... :cool:
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"Does anyone really know what time it is?
Does anyone really care (about time)?
If so, I can't imagine why -
We've all got time enough to cry..."
- Robert Lamm
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I've always wondered why we don't all just work off of GMT.
One time for everyone!
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Time is relative no?
For the last 40 or so years I have set my watch to Greenwich (ZULU,GMT) and relate the zone I'm in to that. Almost all my professional work is done with that reference.
Helps w/ trans time zone events and circadian rhythms.
Works for me.
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Then you have the very Western end of the Oklahoma panhandle , which officially is in Central time, ignored by the folks in Kenton where they set their clocks to Mountain time . Of course that only matters to about 40 people , so ... :laugh:
Dusty
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I contend that the CONUS could get along fine with 3 broad time zones rather than 4. The Pacific Times Zone should be eliminated IMO. But the remaining three should be broadened, not just Mountain Time.
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Then you have the very Western end of the Oklahoma panhandle , which officially is in Central time, ignored by the folks in Kenton where they set their clocks to Mountain time . Of course that only matters to about 40 people , so ... :laugh:
Dusty
The official population is 17...can you name them?
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f4/25/14/f425147cf0065df3b3470e166a31a52d--oklahoma-s.jpg)
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I'm in the camp of "set it and forget it". It's been proven that accidents go up 5% the first week of DST. Especially spring time when everyone loses an hour. Look, we have headlights on tractors now. We have flashlights to see outside in the dark now. DST is a stupid and ancient thing that needs to disappear permanently in my opinion. I'm a zombie as it is and when you take an extra hour of sleep away from me, it takes me a dang week to recover from that and get used to it. By the time I get used to it, it's time to 'fall back' and do the crap all over again.
Set it and forget it. Period.
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if we save daylight all year, what will we do with it all?
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The official population is 17...can you name them?
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f4/25/14/f425147cf0065df3b3470e166a31a52d--oklahoma-s.jpg)
Well , there's George , and Bill , and his wife Mary , a Frank , a Loretta , Nancy , Sue , a Nancy Sue , Fred , Steve , Stevie , Gladys , Priscilla , (who the locals call Prissy) , Norman , Paul , Carolyn and a guy the locals just call Sparky , because as a child he tried sticking his tongue into a lamp socket after he had turned on the lamp :shocked:
Somewhere there is a picture of Danial K's Guzzi parked in beautiful downtown Kenton .
Dusty
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Not sure it would work like that ... the world constantly adjusts. If kids are going to school in the dark, then the schools will shift their schedules so they AREN'T going to school in the dark, and businesses will gradually follow suit, and we'll be right back where we were ....
Saskatchewan never adjusts the clock. It doesn;t work the way you imagine it... work starts at 8, schools starts at 8:30... and that's how it is. Dark, light... 8:30 is 8:30. No adjusting in the fall or spring. None of that garbage, and it works great.
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^^^
Yep , that's it . Some years back two of us were stopped in that very same spot , one Guzzi , one beemer . A local guy in his 50's walked over and said , "Well I'll be durned , there are two of those funny looking Italian motorsickles in the world" , Referring back to Deke's bike , he had apparently witnessed Daniel coming thru town on that trip :laugh:
Dusty
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Alaska used to have four time zones.
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I'm in the camp of "set it and forget it". It's been proven that accidents go up 5% the first week of DST. Especially spring time when everyone loses an hour. Look, we have headlights on tractors now. We have flashlights to see outside in the dark now. DST is a stupid and ancient thing that needs to disappear permanently in my opinion. I'm a zombie as it is and when you take an extra hour of sleep away from me, it takes me a dang week to recover from that and get used to it. By the time I get used to it, it's time to 'fall back' and do the crap all over again.
Set it and forget it. Period.
And here with an X21 I would have figured you to be into time travel twice a year. :evil:
ZZ
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I think the benefits only last a couple of weeks in October, then it is dark all of the time.
I do not know of any other benefits, and would love to see it end.
There was a point when we were changing the clocks in the spring on Easter morning. I can't tell you what a pain that was....
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The region of Peace River Alberta voted to cede from the changes back and forth.
Just said: no thanks and stopped. They are a practical people there.
Daylight savings time doesn't make sense. There are really only two points in the calendar that count; Solstice.
In winter and we are still only going to have a few hours of light around the middle of business hours.
In summer the flashlight salesmen go broke.
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I've always kind of enjoyed the time change, especially in the spring. Punctuates the beginning of riding season - "Here's an extra hour of daylight - game on!"
The extra hour of sleep in the fall feels like a bit of compensation for the impending gray gloom.
I can see how this would hold less significance for those on the farther ends of the latitude scale.
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Saving Daylight, the Vanishing Hour -- movie trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w45QkL9blG4&index=3&list=RDk4EUTMPuvHo)
Daylight Savings - Movie Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4EUTMPuvHo)
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I prefer apparent sidereal time, myself. :D
I've lived both with and without DST, and at both higher and lower latitudes. DST is extraordinarily dumb.
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if we save daylight all year, what will we do with it all?
Draw interest.