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Title: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: usedtobefast on March 22, 2018, 06:46:19 PM
Seems Ducati has done several "tricolore" paint schemes.  Aprilia less so, but some. 

Not seeing any from Moto Guzzi.  Maybe too flashy?  Or do you think this is seen as bad taste?    Like a red-white-blue Harley?   :cheesy:

Lots of helmets with the flag colors.

Been thinking of a V7 tricolore.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: giusto on March 22, 2018, 06:53:14 PM
Too flashy for Guzzi....now that is funny


 The flag of Italy (bandiera d'Italia, often referred to in Italian as il Tricolore; Italian: [il trikoˈloːre]) is a tricolour featuring three equally-sized vertical pales of green, white and red, with the green at the hoist side. Its current form has been in use since 18 June 1946 and was formally adopted on 1 January 1948.[1]

The first entity to use the Italian tricolour was the Cisalpine Republic in 1797, which supplanted Milan after Napoleon's victorious army crossed Italy in 1796. The colours chosen by the Cispadane Republic were red and white, which were the colours of the recently conquered flag of Milan; and green, which was the colour of the uniform of the Milanese civic guard. During this time, many small French-proxy republics of Jacobin inspiration supplanted the ancient absolute Italian states and almost all, with variants of colour, used flags characterised by three bands of equal size, clearly inspired by the French model of 1790.

Some have attributed particular values to the colours, and a common interpretation is that the green represents the country's plains and the hills; white, the snow-capped Alps; and red, blood spilt in the Wars of Italian Independence and Unification. A more religious interpretation is that the green represents hope, the white represents faith, and the red represents charity; this references the three theological virtues.[2]



Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: giusto on March 22, 2018, 07:00:01 PM
But Sicily wins the creepiest flag award....I truly do love it but man what a bazaar



(http://thumb.ibb.co/czb8uc/255px_Sicilian_Flag_svg_1.png) (http://ibb.co/czb8uc)



The flag is characterized by the presence of the triskelion (trinacria) in its middle, the (winged) head of Medusa (Gorgon) and three wheat ears. The three bent legs allegedly represent the three points of the triangular shape of the island of Sicily, or the historical three valli of the island.[1] The present design became the official public flag of the Autonomous Region of Sicily on 4 January 2000, after the passing of an apposite law which advocates its use on public buildings, schools, city halls, and all the other places in which Sicily is represented.

The flag is bisected diagonally into regions colored red and yellow, red representing the municipality of Palermo, yellow representing Corleone, which in medieval times was an agricultural city of renown. Palermo and Corleone were the first two cities to found a confederation against the Angevin rule. Today, the triskelion (or trisceli) is also widely considered the actual symbol of Sicily. The symbol is also known as the trinacria, which is also an ancient name of Sicily. The name was also revived and used during the Aragonese period of the Kingdom of Sicily immediately after the Sicilian Vespers (1282) which ended Angevin rule.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: vintage53 on March 22, 2018, 08:05:25 PM
Here you go!
Can't wait to get her back on the road. It's been a long winter.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: vintage53 on March 22, 2018, 08:08:35 PM

(http://thumb.ibb.co/knLMxx/image.jpg) (http://ibb.co/knLMxx)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/iEyVqH/image.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iEyVqH)



Forgot something 👍👍

Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: usedtobefast on March 22, 2018, 08:33:31 PM
Joe - is that a stock color scheme?  Or did you have it done?

Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: vintage53 on March 22, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
Stock yes - That's original to the Coppa Italia. (2004)

The fairing is off a 2002 Lemans, and it's the same red. 


Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 22, 2018, 08:47:32 PM
(https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/moto-guzzi-stelvio-tricolore-by-luca-bar_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: kingoffleece on March 22, 2018, 09:46:31 PM
Come now.  Best looking Stelvio I've seen yet.  Lovely.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Tom on March 22, 2018, 09:52:46 PM
The tri-color paint was used on the V11 LeMans as stated but in real limited numbers.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: LowRyter on March 22, 2018, 09:58:40 PM
(https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/moto_gallery/MOTOGUZZIV11CoppaItalia-4754_1.jpg)

(http://www.raceyourlife.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/aprilia.jpg)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Turin on March 22, 2018, 10:37:48 PM
The Coppa Italia works, but I think it's because the bike is more silver than white, and the red and green are a dark metallic shades, and the green is kept to a minimum.
IMO the typical factory tri-colore paint schemes look way too busy. the home done jobs look horrendous.

( Coppa Italias are drop dead gorgeous in person, and would be my top pick of the V11 sport / Lemans series. )
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: AH Fan on March 22, 2018, 11:04:55 PM
Yup.......... got one ,looks awesome.   :grin:
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Groover on March 23, 2018, 08:59:16 AM
But Sicily wins the creepiest flag award....I truly do love it but man what a bazaar


(http://thumb.ibb.co/czb8uc/255px_Sicilian_Flag_svg_1.png) (http://ibb.co/czb8uc)



 :thumb: That's my flag. My family is from there, I grew up there. I have a few Trinacrias around my house and they all vary in detail, depending on the artist.

I think Guzzi tried that scheme. Not for everyone, though I could embrace it if I had one.


(http://thumb.ibb.co/iUv8vS/ev.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iUv8vS)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: ramarren on March 23, 2018, 09:31:20 AM
Seems Ducati has done several "tricolore" paint schemes.  Aprilia less so, but some. 

Not seeing any from Moto Guzzi.  Maybe too flashy?  Or do you think this is seen as bad taste?    Like a red-white-blue Harley?   :cheesy:

Lots of helmets with the flag colors.

Been thinking of a V7 tricolore.   :smiley:

When I built up my "Sportified" Moto Guzzi 850-T in the 1990s, I went with red frame and tricolore paint scheme on tank and tool boxes. It came out looking subtle and elegant, to my eye. Most of the folks who knew the bike seemed to like how it looked too.

I've had varying and fanciful thoughts about how to custom paint Racer... Tricolore is one of them.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: JJ on March 23, 2018, 09:38:54 AM
YIKES!!! :shocked: :huh: :rolleyes: :laugh: :grin: :wink: :cool:  "The Tricolore Horse!!"  :shocked: :shocked:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/dMrRzn/Screen_Shot_2018_03_23_at_7_37_41_AM.png) (http://ibb.co/dMrRzn)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 23, 2018, 11:06:27 AM
Some things can't be unseen, JJ..
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: usedtobefast on March 23, 2018, 11:08:42 AM
When I built up my "Sportified" Moto Guzzi 850-T in the 1990s, I went with red frame and tricolore paint scheme on tank and tool boxes. It came out looking subtle and elegant, to my eye. Most of the folks who knew the bike seemed to like how it looked too.

I've had varying and fanciful thoughts about how to custom paint Racer... Tricolore is one of them.  :laugh:

Pictures??
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: usedtobefast on March 23, 2018, 11:11:05 AM
Here is my fancy art work for a tricolor Rough.  The green would go around the top of the tank and down the other side.  Then 3 thin stripes down the center of the front and rear fenders. 


(http://thumb.ibb.co/b6wyC7/MG_Rough_Test_1.jpg) (http://ibb.co/b6wyC7)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: LowRyter on March 23, 2018, 12:39:09 PM
(http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Classic%20Racers/Aprilia%20RS-GP%20MotoGP_17_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Tom on March 23, 2018, 12:48:53 PM
Check out a Cali that Mark did.  Looks different depending on which way you see him riding.

http://www.motoguzziclassics.com/MGCCustom6.asp
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: malik on March 23, 2018, 12:55:15 PM
The last 1200 Sport, the Corsa, was tricked out in Tricolore as well - very swish. I have seen a Cali 1100 also, but not sure if it was a custom job or factory. Looked good too. Go for it.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: LowRyter on March 23, 2018, 04:52:24 PM
saw this one in Daytona a few years ago

(https://g3.img-dpreview.com/F07A1C928B3E4568B475E0F2D9A51844.jpg)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: egschade on March 23, 2018, 04:56:17 PM
Quota for sale in Long Island, NY https://longisland.craigslist.org/mcy/d/2000-moto-guzzi-quota/6462487599.html


(https://thumb.ibb.co/cCYe27/00x0x_5_Rxh8w2_ISNo_1200x900.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cCYe27)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Kristian on March 23, 2018, 05:04:16 PM
Awful; Italian vehicles need zero garish reminders they're Italian. Even the most basic of Italian transportation--say, a Fiat 128--is immediately recognizable from space that it's Italian!

The original Tricolore was a bit different; it was signalling Ducati's--and by extension Italy's--return to top-level motorcycle racing.

There's been a Tricolore Quota in excellent shape for sale on Craigslist for months now; most likely because of the garish paint scheme.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: ramarren on March 23, 2018, 07:00:03 PM
Pictures??

I'll look and see what I can find .. I know a lot of those photos were lost in a move somewhere around 2003. :-(
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: giusto on March 23, 2018, 07:49:25 PM
Awful; Italian vehicles need zero garish reminders they're Italian. Even the most basic of Italian transportation--say, a Fiat 128--is immediately recognizable from space that it's Italian!

The original Tricolore was a bit different; it was signalling Ducati's--and by extension Italy's--return to top-level motorcycle racing.

There's been a Tricolore Quota in excellent shape for sale on Craigslist for months now; most likely because of the garish paint scheme.


I've talked to the guy about this Quota a few times...and it's not the paint scheme that's funky...it's the guy.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: giusto on March 23, 2018, 07:54:57 PM
:thumb: That's my flag. My family is from there, I grew up there. I have a few Trinacrias around my house and they all vary in detail, depending on the artist.

I think Guzzi tried that scheme. Not for everyone, though I could embrace it if I had one.


(http://thumb.ibb.co/iUv8vS/ev.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iUv8vS)


I have a daughter in Catania...we spent a month there the year before last. Amazing place...my Dad was born in Sannicondro di bari

 you =siculamente :)

Groover come on up to TC for the Michigan rally this August!!
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Turin on March 24, 2018, 12:50:28 PM
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.pmyhHHeN9S1XRJM3cjFMBwHaFj&pid=Api)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Kristian on March 24, 2018, 12:52:50 PM
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.pmyhHHeN9S1XRJM3cjFMBwHaFj&pid=Api)

One type of bling I am a firm believer in are gold wheels on sport bikes-
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: JJ on March 24, 2018, 05:22:19 PM
saw this one in Daytona a few years ago

(https://g3.img-dpreview.com/F07A1C928B3E4568B475E0F2D9A51844.jpg)

Yes Chuckster...this one is for YOU!!! :laugh: :grin: :laugh: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Tusayan on March 25, 2018, 10:32:01 AM
The original Tricolore was a bit different; it was signalling Ducati's--and by extension Italy's--return to top-level motorcycle racing.

The English guy (Steve Wynn/Sports Motorcycles) who owned & prepared the bike and paid Hailwood claimed that the color scheme was that of his sponsor, Castrol Oil, and had nothing to do with the Italian flag.  The idea for the paint scheme was in any case English, not Italian.  Factory NCR bikes as used by Ducati previously were typically painted red and silver. Later, after Hailwood won Ducati used the 'Castrol' scheme on the production Hailwood replica, without paying anything for use of either (more importantly) the Hailwood name, nor the paint scheme.    The Hailwood Replica was first production use of red/white/green and the second was the first series 851, ten years later.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: LowRyter on March 25, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
What's with this Australian from Texas on a Japanese bike riding with Eye-talian colors?


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/6f/b6/e16fb622662071f75d0592fb039d6237.jpg)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Huzo on March 25, 2018, 11:22:28 AM
But Sicily wins the creepiest flag award....I truly do love it but man what a bazaar



(http://thumb.ibb.co/czb8uc/255px_Sicilian_Flag_svg_1.png) (http://ibb.co/czb8uc)



The flag is characterized by the presence of the triskelion (trinacria) in its middle, the (winged) head of Medusa (Gorgon) and three wheat ears. The three bent legs allegedly represent the three points of the triangular shape of the island of Sicily, or the historical three valli of the island.[1] The present design became the official public flag of the Autonomous Region of Sicily on 4 January 2000, after the passing of an apposite law which advocates its use on public buildings, schools, city halls, and all the other places in which Sicily is represented.

The flag is bisected diagonally into regions colored red and yellow, red representing the municipality of Palermo, yellow representing Corleone, which in medieval times was an agricultural city of renown. Palermo and Corleone were the first two cities to found a confederation against the Angevin rule. Today, the triskelion (or trisceli) is also widely considered the actual symbol of Sicily. The symbol is also known as the trinacria, which is also an ancient name of Sicily. The name was also revived and used during the Aragonese period of the Kingdom of Sicily immediately after the Sicilian Vespers (1282) which ended Angevin rule.
For a minuteI thought they were her legs...!
Oh well....
That's buggered that idea....
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Huzo on March 25, 2018, 11:26:57 AM
What's with this Australian from Texas on a Japanese bike riding with Eye-talian colors?


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/6f/b6/e16fb622662071f75d0592fb039d6237.jpg)
Australian ???
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: LowRyter on March 25, 2018, 12:16:32 PM
Edwards was born in Houston, Texas. At the age of three, his Australian father, Colin Edwards Sr. (an amateur motorcycle racer himself), introduced him to a minibike, and Edwards entered his first motocross race at the age of four. Over the next ten years, Edwards became one of the top-ranked junior motocross competitors in the USA, winning dozens of races in the 50cc to 80cc categories in local, regional and national events.

Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Turin on March 25, 2018, 02:50:07 PM
Castrol Racing colors
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/600804278245003264/geSd7KTG_400x400.png)
(https://www.touringcartimes.com/img/2009/12/v8sc09121701.jpg?w=785&h=442&fit=crop&fm=pjpg&q=80)
(http://bucket.carmodel.com/images/cm-lg/100546.jpg)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Turin on March 25, 2018, 02:53:07 PM
Quote
The English guy (Steve Wynn/Sports Motorcycles) who owned & prepared the bike and paid Hailwood claimed that the color scheme was that of his sponsor, Castrol Oil, and had nothing to do with the Italian flag.  The idea for the paint scheme was in any case English, not Italian.  Factory NCR bikes as used by Ducati previously were typically painted red and silver. Later, after Hailwood won Ducati used the 'Castrol' scheme on the production Hailwood replica, without paying anything for use of either (more importantly) the Hailwood name, nor the paint scheme.    The Hailwood Replica was first production use of red/white/green and the second was the first series 851, ten years later.



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Forgot something...
(https://i2.wp.com/www.bike-urious.com/wp-content/uploads/Ducati-750-F1B-Right-Side.jpg?fit=881%2C590)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: vintage53 on March 25, 2018, 04:23:30 PM
One more of the Coppa.  And a early V7.
 

(http://thumb.ibb.co/ir1SaS/image.jpg) (http://ibb.co/ir1SaS)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/bSmtFS/image.jpg) (http://ibb.co/bSmtFS)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Motormike on March 25, 2018, 05:25:50 PM
A bit off topic, but since someone mentioned Colin Edwards, I have to post a link to one of the greatest Superbike duels of all time, Imola 2002.  To quote the Italian announcer, "fantastico"

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x64b9u

Man, what a race!
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: JJ on March 25, 2018, 06:45:12 PM
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.pmyhHHeN9S1XRJM3cjFMBwHaFj&pid=Api)


Hi Turin! 

How are you?

If you want to have some fun, and light-up Nolan Woodbury sometime, just send him this photo and say you are thinking about painting your Guzzi just like this and ask his opinion.... :huh: :rolleyes: :shocked: :laugh: :grin: :wink:

By the way, why don't you come to Cottonwood for our N.A.R. May 4-6? :thumb: :cool:
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Turin on March 25, 2018, 07:20:52 PM
Nolan wouldn't believe me for a second! I'll be coming up there this year. I don't know if the Le Mans racer will be ready, probably take the trusty old quota.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: Tusayan on March 25, 2018, 08:18:14 PM
Forgot something...

So I did!  :grin: It's funny given that I had an '87 F1B exactly like the one you pictured above.  I think I flushed it out of my memory - I currently own four other Ducati twins, but regardless the F1B was the worst engineered motorcycle I've ever owned with the possible exception of my first, a lawnmower engine powered mini bike with a centrifugal clutch that lasted only a week or so.  I was happy to sell the F1 for what I had in it, after solving most of the problems...  When I figured out the factory had balanced the crankshaft incorrectly that was enough, I was done, and down the road it went!

Mid-80s Ducatis were mostly poor, them stealing the Hailwood/Castrol paint job and name out of desperation kind of says it all, but the 851 and '91 belt SS came along eventually and put Ducati back on their feet technically and otherwise.
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: tris on March 26, 2018, 07:06:11 AM
Does this count


(http://thumb.ibb.co/kkmpN7/DSCF1009.jpg) (http://ibb.co/kkmpN7)
Title: Re: Tricolore paint scheme? (Italian flag colors)
Post by: JJ on March 26, 2018, 09:43:28 AM
Nolan wouldn't believe me for a second! I'll be coming up there this year. I don't know if the Le Mans racer will be ready, probably take the trusty old quota.

Right on!  I would like to sit on your Quota and see if I "fit" on it.. :thumb: :cool: :1: