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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: frogeye100 on April 02, 2018, 04:02:12 PM
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A old friend (80) was a sales guy at our BMW dealer and took a 03' V11 sport in on trade and wound up with it. Only has 5k one owner miles and looks perfect. Been sitting in his garage for a long time. Was over there today, he is getting rid of bikes and said I could have it for $1800. He said the engine didn't sound right to him as he recalled. Very tempted to roll the dice. Are parts available for this vintage? Beautiful bike was begging me to bring it home. Oh learned ones give me your thoughts?
Thank you,
Dean
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Hey, we're ALL nuts...that's why we ride Guzzis...do it! :thumb:
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Hey, we're ALL nuts...that's why we ride Guzzis...do it! :thumb:
QUOTE: He said the engine didn't sound right to him as he recalled...
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On the positive side...parts alone are worth more than $1800!! :laugh: :grin: :wink:
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Where is it? I'll be there before you can think about it..
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Yes parts are available .
Dusty
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Your friend, although familiar with Beemers, may not be ready for the sounds that a Guzzi makes.. could have been the clutch rattling.
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It's a brilliant bike, and it's really a "modern" bike rather than a classic. A bargain at that price, and it's not even run in yet. Do keep in mind that those more familiar with, say, modern Japanese bikes often seem to think there is something wrong with guzzis, - "you'll need a new gearbox" is a common reaction. There are a few known minor problems with the later spine frames - check out the V11 LeMans forum for the fixes. Go for it, it's a lot of bike for even 3 times the money.
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BUY IT :boozing:
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How come nobody ever offers me laughable deals like this, that I would run away from? (where is this bike?)
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Are you kidding me????
Yes, you are nuts. Just give me the phone number and don't worry about it any more. Is it in the continental US? I'll pick it up. For free.
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Nuts if you don't buy it at that price.
What colour is it?
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Tank is a weird green. Has a steering stabilizer, did they come with one? Anyway since it has sat for quite awhile, thinking about a resuscitation strategy. Might drop the sump, remove the rocker covers and inspect? Other suggestions welcome! It really is a wonderful looking bike!
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A link, please, Ill send them some money to hold it for me until I get there. Im doing you a favor, you don't want that thing, its way to primitive :evil:
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Tank is a weird green. Has a steering stabilizer, did they come with one? Anyway since it has sat for quite awhile, thinking about a resuscitation strategy. Might drop the sump, remove the rocker covers and inspect? Other suggestions welcome! It really is a wonderful looking bike!
The most sought after fast green, get it out in the sunlight and still tell me it's weird LOL.
Yes steering damper is standard
If you're not really sold on it please pass it on to someone who will take care of it.
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Yes, the steering damper is standard, and that on the V11 is serviceable. The weird green is the best colour. The early versions also had a red frame. Very tasty.
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If you describe a "weird green" You may be talking about a Tenni edition. Is the green a zinc chromate green? If so, VERY DESIRABLE!!!!!
The Tenni model came with two seats. a brown seat and a black seat. When you say it does not sound right, what do you mean? Valves out of adjustment? dual plate clutch rattle? Might be no trouble at all.
IF it is a Tenni, buy it. it is worth more than that in parts to anybody that has one.
John Henry
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Hey, we're ALL nuts...that's why we ride Guzzis...do it! :thumb:
^^^THIS!^^^
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You might send some photos so we can see what this is about.
There are some very knowledgeable folks here that can help. Most want to see another Guzzi on the road and are infatuated with barn finds.
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Uhh, he says
03' V11 sport
Green 03? I don't think so. There is the 00 "Greenie" and the 02 Tenni. More than likely it's a Tenni, sold and tagged in 03. Nice bike, but single plate clutch that has to be dealt with. For $1800? Just give me the phone number.. :evil:
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It hasn't ran for some time. The sound was a recollection by my friend. I do like the color, should be able to pick it up Wenesday. I will post some pics.
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It hasn't ran for some time. The sound was a recollection by my friend. I do like the color, should be able to pick it up Wenesday. I will post some pics.
Well, it took you long enough.. :smiley: :smiley:
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There was a 2003 V11 with a muted green tank, close to pastel green. It's not the candy-apple green of the 2000 Red-Frame sport.
FWIW, I bought a crashed parts bike for slightly less than the price you mentioned. And when I say crashed I mean bent frame, cracked front wheel etc. Worst case scenario: the engine is wasted, then you can part it out for about $3,000 and buy a runner.
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Uhh, he says
Green 03? I don't think so. There is the 00 "Greenie" and the 02 Tenni. More than likely it's a Tenni, sold and tagged in 03. Nice bike, but single plate clutch that has to be dealt with. For $1800? Just give me the phone number.. :evil:
it’s no coincidence it’s priced at $1800.
Number to call is 1-800-I-Buy-V11!!
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There was a 2003 V11 with a muted green tank, close to pastel green. It's not the candy-apple green of the 2000 Red-Frame sport.
What he said.. if it is a Tenni then I guess the single plate clutch could be hatched and that's the source of the "doesn't sound right"?
If it's truly a 2003, YOU SHOULD BUY IT OR CONTACT ME, I need one like that.
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This green?
Awesome price, and a cool unique color! :)
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Yes, thats the color. Does that make it a Tenni? And what is a Tenni? Please excuse my newbness.
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Just googled it, not a Tenni. Looks exactly like the picture above.
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Is this a late April Fools thread ??
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Oh, and join v11lemans.com forum. Wealth of V11 spine frame info over there, if you're wanting to learn about these bikes.
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Thank you all. Did notice the blistered, crinckle engine paint. I guess that indicates a rebadged 02?
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Thank you all. Did notice the blistered, crinckle engine paint. I guess that indicates a rebadged 02?
Look at the 10th digit of the VIN. If it's a "2", it's a 2002 model. If it's a "3", it's a 2003 model.
I don't recall any 2003 model bikes having the peeling crinkle black engine paint, but I guess it could be an early production 2003. Build date should be on the VIN plate on the frame neck.
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This green?
Awesome price, and a cool unique color! :)
My bad.. I'd forgotten :rolleyes: about that one. Never have seen one in the flesh. It looks like it has the 02 chin pad.. maybe the end of the model year or start of the next? Probably has the external fuel pump, and maybe has the oversized transmission pawl spring boss. Many 02's did.
Edit: it's an 02. There is a rundown on changes over the life of the Lemans series on the V11 Lemans forum.
Picture of the green one here:
http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5691
'02 and later models have additional bracing in the frame and a wider 5.5" rear wheel. New front forks with the clip-ons mounted above the triple clamp are standard. '02 and later models have black engine paint. The '02 model paint is 'fuzzy' and is prone to flaking and blistering off- so it looked horrible- and Guzzi offered new cases to those afflicted with it. New brake rotors (triangular holes) are stock.
Late '02 models have commonly been rebadged as '03 models. True '03 models should have a '3' in the VIN and have 'satin' engine paint. Fuzzy engine paint on an '03 model is an indication that it is a rebadged '02.
In '02 or '03, Guzzi changed the electric gas petcock out for a manual version.
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Are 03 bikes much improved over previous years? My first reaction was yea a great deal, and I am going to buy it but I want to be careful bringing it back to life. Friend is pretty sharp with lots of bikes ie knows what dry clutch rattle sounds like. Owner may have traded it in to avoid dealing with a problem.
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All these “buy it” responses should give you plenty of confidence. You cannot lose in this and if you don’t like it you have plenty of folks right here that will take relieve you of it! I’ve always heard the last person gets it and I’m currently that guy [emoji106]
Btw - I don’t remember Guzzi clutches rattling anything like Ducati’s infamously do. And the noise from the engine may be the valves as many people set them a bit loose for good reasons. Any doubt just wick the throttle and listen to it breathe. That should take care of it.
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Buy it. 1800 is a steal. Try it. Pass it on without losing a dime if you don't like it.
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Are 03 bikes much improved over previous years? My first reaction was yea a great deal, and I am going to buy it but I want to be careful bringing it back to life. Friend is pretty sharp with lots of bikes ie knows what dry clutch rattle sounds like. Owner may have traded it in to avoid dealing with a problem.
03 bikes are improved over 02s. Not much, though. The fuel injection is better sorted. Bigger forks. Supposedly :grin: higher compression. Internal fuel pump.
If you don't want it, I'll take it. :evil:
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03 bikes are improved over 02s. Not much, though. The fuel injection is better sorted. Bigger forks. Supposedly :grin: higher compression. Internal fuel pump.
If you don't want it, I'll take it. :evil:
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I think the later Marzocchi's didn't have as much adjustability? Preload only or something...
Even with flaky paint on the engine, $1800 is the cheapest I've ever seen a non wrecked V11 Sport, and from the photos that green tank looks really unique and cool to me.
Add me to the list of interested buyers! Haha!
-Joe
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Wow lucky you!!
Don't over think it - service,tyres and a battery. Then ride the wheels off it.
If you decide it is not for you, sell it for considerably more than what you paid.
What's not to like?
Cheers
Jason
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Beemer dealer barn find
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Got it home, now what, lol
Should I hunt for the weird noise he recalled or just get a battery, put gas in it and try it?
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whoooa. Looks like new.
cranker her up.
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just get a battery, put gas in it and try it?
Yes. :bike-037:
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I read the battery lays on its side? No battery there now to match to. Your thoughts on the preferred battery series for best fit and capacity appreciated.
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A regular AGM battery, none of those fancy new tech ones.
The owners manual only says 12V 13 Amp hour.
You might even be able to get one with a little higher capacity
Congratulations, you are going to love it.
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An Odyssey PC545 is equivalent to the original Spark 500 the bike was delivered with. About a hundred bux from Battery Mart. You'll want to change the OEM relays to the high current Omron
http://www.digikey.c...5645-ND/2755412
Especially the last two in the stack. (farthest aft)
For more than you'll likely want to know :grin: join the V11-LeMans site and lord it over the poor souls that will be jealous.. :cool: :boozing:
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Yep. Odyssey PC545. Worked great for me in my V11 LeMans.
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Dumb question, with the battery on its side won't it leak?
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Dumb question, with the battery on its side won't it leak?
Not if it's an AGM battery. No leakage.
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You nearly stole it so do self a favor and buy that pc545. It will last a long time!
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Hi,
I bought the Yuasa, is it still winter in Mpls? My home town but in San Antonio now. Sure miss the lakes.
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I bought the Yuasa,
After several well known Guzzi people told you to get the Odyssey? :Beating_A_Dead_Hors e_by_liviu:
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Hi,
I bought the Yuasa, is it still winter in Mpls? My home town but in San Antonio now. Sure miss the lakes.
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I had great service from the Yuasa I put in my VII
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Hi,
I bought the Yuasa, is it still winter in Mpls? My home town but in San Antonio now. Sure miss the lakes.
yes we got 10” just this past Tuesday and 2-6 predicted for Sunday.
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Please give me his number—- I will offer him $2200— thanks
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Well I got this Yuasa, supposed to cross reference to the Odyssey pc545 but didn't fit! All they carry is Yuasa. Anybody know the correct Yuasa part number for a 2002 V11 Sport?
Gotta run back there tomorrow.
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Well I got this Yuasa, supposed to cross reference to the Odyssey pc545 but didn't fit! All they carry is Yuasa. Anybody know the correct Yuasa part number for a 2002 V11 Sport?
Gotta run back there tomorrow.
Be careful with the "-BS" units as this means that a separate bottle of acid is supplied. When you receive the battery, you will have to fill it yourself, and people have seen leakage in these batteries when they are not positioned upright. The benefit of the Odyssey batteries (and the non-BS Yuasas) is that they are completely sealed from the factory and won't leak.
Congrats on the great score with this bike!
Cheers,
Shaun
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Seriously, get your money back, buy the Odyssey. We've all been there and done that. You'll learn Grasshopper :grin:
Paul B :boozing:
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Order the odessey on line and it will be delivered in a few days all charged and ready to go.
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Congrats on the new V11. It's a great motorcycle - so much fun to ride. Hope to see you on the V11LeMans site as well.
You'll want a special shift spring to keep in reserve (or pre-emptively replace). It so happens that I have a supply of said springs (I also have an extra set of the good relays). Send me a PM if interested.
BTW - I had a Yausa on my Scura for a while - no problems. However, I think it is a touch bigger than the Odyssey, which is a problem on the earlier models, but not on the 2002 and later. The seat pans are subtly different. I'm surprised yours didn't fit. (but I don't know the part number of the one on my bike).
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make sure you take a video of the bike when you start it so we can all listen in to the beauty noisy sob
You are a fortunate fellow
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face it, you screwed up and you'll hate it. its not a proper motorbike and all the cats with Japanese sport bikes will tease you cruelly. I don't live far from you and I'm willing to help you out and take it off your hands. Ill even come and get it for you, Id hate to see you mistreated.
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FWIW - The Yausa from my Scura is YTX15L-BS.
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Have to say that Yausa is the best. I've gotten Battery Plus knock offs. When battery is dead, I bring the old one and get the same size.
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Hi Scud,
Thanks, that is the one I'm going for.
Local shop has been great to me.
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you try to start yet?
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Not yet, going to get the the correct battery. Hope this afternoon.
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Not yet, going to get the the correct battery. Hope this afternoon.
Good Luck!
Fresh oil? Fresh gas? pure gas....rec fuel
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When you first turn the key on you should hear the pump start and run for a couple of seconds to prime the system, if not it's not going to fire
There is an interlock with Neutral or the stand out and have to hold the clutch in for it to crank.
Good Luck
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Well crap, didn't have the correct battery, going to order the Odyssey.
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Well decided to progress with caution, dropped the sump and found some very thin metal pieces. I really don't know Guzzi well enough and have other projects I am focused on. Open to offers, great opportunity for low mileage one owner V11 thats never been down, make me an offer. Dean in Texas, 830-336-4153
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Ugh.. hard to tell the scale but is that part of a piston ring?
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I'm clueless (my normal condition) as to what that is.. but thanks for giving fair warning. I might be a player if nobody else wants a crack at it.
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Aw, that's too bad, but good for you for checking first. Smart. Given the very reasonable price you paid, I think you should still come out alright. If I were in the market for another V11, I would have serious interest.
I agree, it would be helpful to understand the size of the metal objects in order to be able to determine the source.
For those in the know, wouldn't it be ironic if this turned out to be remnants of a hose clamp from the oil filter? :shocked:
Best of luck with the sale.
Shaun
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I will retake a pic with a coin for scale.
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Sale pending.
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They look like melted shards of big end shell to me. Unfortunately common enough if the oil level has been allowed to get a bit low and no sloppage sheet is fitted.
Pete
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Are big end shells magnetic?
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Guzzis currently use tri metal bearings that have a steel back so it may well be that some of the backing has got spat out and would be magnetic.
http://kingbearings.com/files/Engine_Bearing_Materials.pdf
Pete
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Yup, looks like a spun rod bearing to me too. DonG
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You might consider getting a "Roper Plate" once you get it up and going.
Sorry to see the problem.
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If it’s still turning over the crank will probably be salvageable. Although Guzzi stopped offering oversized bearings for the V11’s since the journal dimensions are identical too the Cali’s which do have oversizes you can use them. You loose the nitriding which is a shame but it’s cheaper than a new crank.
Go down to second undersize, get the rods closed and ground for two thou clearance, fit a sloppage sheet and bingo! Ready to rock and roll.
You won’t know for sure how bad the damage is until it’s all apart but as long as the crank still spins it’s probably salvageable. Flip the coin and hope. :thumb:
Pete