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Title: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 24, 2018, 07:25:30 PM: I knew better than to check the spoke tension on the old Jackal . One just goes thud when tapped with a screwdriver , sure enough it is broken in the hub . I don't have the large snap ring tool , any suggestions .

Oh well , at least the tire is off , and the gooyey rim tape is removed .

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 24, 2018, 07:29:32 PM: Never mind , I had a senior moment , duh :laugh:

I do have a new spoke and nipple , because Guzzi4me sent me some for my B-day :thumb:

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: PJPR01 on April 24, 2018, 07:31:14 PM: Good thing it's not the day before Cedar Vale...our Sultan would have had to fly in on his magic carpet! :)
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: twowings on April 24, 2018, 07:49:50 PM: Thank goodness for Dusty hanging out at Wildguzzi is like assisted living! Always someone to take care of you... :thumb:
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 24, 2018, 07:54:54 PM: The really bad part of this is that I changed a couple of spokes on a friend's rear wheel not 5 years ago . Like a guy said to me recently , "I have a good memory , it just doesn't last very long" :laugh:

Broken one is out , new one going in .

Ting , ting , ting :grin:

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: Muzz on April 24, 2018, 08:26:36 PM: Why I like mag wheels dusty. :grin:
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: John A on April 25, 2018, 06:32:04 AM: Some people are just hard on equipment :grin:
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: yogidozer on April 25, 2018, 07:28:36 AM: Quote from: oldbike54 on April 24, 2018, 07:29:32 PM
Never mind , I had a senior moment , duh :laugh:

I do have a new spoke and nipple , because Guzzi4me sent me some for my B-day :thumb:

Dusty
So....you "spoke" too soon? :laugh:
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: John A on April 25, 2018, 07:32:38 AM: Quote from: yogidozer on April 25, 2018, 07:28:36 AM
So....you "spoke" too soon? :laugh:

:grin: :grin:
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 25, 2018, 07:55:07 AM: :laugh:

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: Muzz on April 25, 2018, 03:41:59 PM: Quote from: oldbike54 on April 24, 2018, 07:29:32 PM
I do have a new spoke and nipple , because Guzzi4me sent me some for my B-day :thumb:

Dusty

A "bespoke" solution. All is well at WG. :grin: :thumb:
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 25, 2018, 03:45:53 PM: ^^^

:laugh:

Is there such a word as "forespoke" :rolleyes:

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: PJPR01 on April 25, 2018, 03:47:54 PM: Quote from: Muzz on April 25, 2018, 03:41:59 PM
A "bespoke" solution. All is well at WG. :grin: :thumb:

Brilliant!!
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: guzzisteve on April 25, 2018, 08:03:29 PM: Well got my wheel done, How Bout Dusty? I'm not checkin spokes.
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 25, 2018, 08:21:42 PM: Quote from: guzzisteve on April 25, 2018, 08:03:29 PM
Well got my wheel done, How Bout Dusty? I'm not checkin spokes.

Have decided to do a tubeless conversion to the rim , started today , will finish tomorrow (I hope)
Seemed like the time , and I am just so damned tired of the aggravation of getting the valve stem thru the hole in the rim .

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: guzzisteve on April 25, 2018, 08:31:25 PM: I got done after break, with a little help

(https://thumb.ibb.co/iuVrPH/0425181918_00.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iuVrPH)

Mine was well balanced, stripe most the way around

(https://thumb.ibb.co/kGZRPH/0425181915_01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kGZRPH)
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: jacksonracingcomau on April 25, 2018, 08:51:48 PM: Quote from: oldbike54 on April 25, 2018, 08:21:42 PM
Have decided to do a tubeless conversion to the rim , started today , will finish tomorrow (I hope)
Seemed like the time , and I am just so damned tired of the aggravation of getting the valve stem thru the hole in the rim .

Dusty

Me too, took me a long time to get it but doing it now.
I did one with tiger seal, like goop but not really happy even though it holds air
Trying 3m 4411N tape, seems best you can buy, what are you using ?
Trick is cleanliness whichever way
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 25, 2018, 09:02:33 PM: Quote from: jacksonracingcomau on April 25, 2018, 08:51:48 PM
Me too, took me a long time to get it but doing it now.
I did one with tiger seal, like goop but not really happy even though it holds air
Trying 3m 4411N tape, seems best you can buy, what are you using ?
Trick is cleanliness whichever way

Gutter sealant . Don't laugh , the stuff is amazing . True about the cleanliness , spent about an hour making sure it is clean .

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: jacksonracingcomau on April 25, 2018, 09:31:29 PM: With no tape?
Tiger Seal is prob same stuff bit I can’t do is finish it neatly, so sticky to anything. If this tape sticks thoroughly to aluminium, no need to bog each nipple.
Is also sold as gutter seal, Guzzi people considered near gutter anyway, we are riding ditchpumps !
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: tris on April 26, 2018, 02:00:12 AM: Quote from: jacksonracingcomau on April 25, 2018, 08:51:48 PM
Me too, took me a long time to get it but doing it now.
I did one with tiger seal, like goop but not really happy even though it holds air
Trying 3m 4411N tape, seems best you can buy, what are you using ?
Trick is cleanliness whichever way

NGC - but that stuff might be the solution to my leaky conservatory - CHEERS :thumb: :bow:

"Wildgoose Forum - the source of solutions to all your problems" :grin:
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: Huzo on April 26, 2018, 02:07:04 AM: Quote from: oldbike54 on April 25, 2018, 08:21:42 PM
Have decided to do a tubeless conversion to the rim , started today , will finish tomorrow (I hope)
Seemed like the time , and I am just so damned tired of the aggravation of getting the valve stem thru the hole in the rim .

Dusty
You're my vote for spokesperson..!
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: PJPR01 on April 26, 2018, 10:35:11 AM: Quote from: Huzo on April 26, 2018, 02:07:04 AM
You're my vote for spokesperson..!

I think you meant SpokeSultan (of Cedar Vale)! :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: Zoom Zoom on April 26, 2018, 08:19:21 PM: I told Dusty to get that stuff from the infomercial where the guy with the screen door bottom boat paints it on and goes for a spin in the lake. :popcorn: :evil:

John Henry
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 26, 2018, 09:29:25 PM: Quote from: Zoom Zoom on April 26, 2018, 08:19:21 PM
I told Dusty to get that stuff from the infomercial where the guy with the screen door bottom boat paints it on and goes for a spin in the lake. :popcorn: :evil:

John Henry

Yeah , but I ain't planning on using the old Jackal to go fishing :rolleyes:

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: Muzz on April 27, 2018, 04:59:48 PM: Quote from: oldbike54 on April 26, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Yeah , but I ain't planning on using the old Jackal to go fishing :rolleyes:

Dusty

You could of course ride it to Spokane; their hub is wired I hear to the rim of Washington.........
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: guzzisteve on April 27, 2018, 10:09:59 PM: Does it hold air yet?
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 27, 2018, 10:21:33 PM: Quote from: guzzisteve on April 27, 2018, 10:09:59 PM
Does it hold air yet?

The butyl rubber is taking forever to dry , won't put the tire on until it is . Fubar thinks it should be dry by Memorial Day :shocked:

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: guzzista on April 28, 2018, 12:32:51 PM: Have been wanting to go tubeless on my Cali 1100 so I would be curious on how it works out for you.
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 28, 2018, 01:10:07 PM: Quote from: guzzista on April 28, 2018, 12:32:51 PM
Have been wanting to go tubeless on my Cali 1100 so I would be curious on how it works out for you.

Hoping the butyl rubber gets dry enough today , will keep you apprised .

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: twowings on April 28, 2018, 04:17:34 PM: Did you remember to put the parts in the hot Oklahoma sun?
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 28, 2018, 04:25:52 PM: Quote from: twowings on April 28, 2018, 04:17:34 PM
Did you remember to put the parts in the hot Oklahoma sun?

Yeah , for two days . Seems maybe the product was either old , or something else was wrong. It never skimmed over , so I have removed about 90 % of it with gasoline and a brush . Call this a failed experiment . Oh well .

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: yogidozer on April 28, 2018, 04:28:02 PM: is it possible to apply it in multiple thin layers, after the first layer dries?
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: yogidozer on April 28, 2018, 04:34:38 PM: how about this stuff Dusty, they sell it at Walmart. or is this what you tried?

(https://thumb.ibb.co/mWpbBx/6c23545c_90ed_4370_80aa_3a8ca023e523_1_e54afc8860d36c2cf45e6fe7d3e50b52.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mWpbBx)

here's the link to describe it.
https://www.flexsealproducts.com/product/flex-tape/
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: oldbike54 on April 28, 2018, 05:38:33 PM: Quote from: yogidozer on April 28, 2018, 04:28:02 PM
is it possible to apply it in multiple thin layers, after the first layer dries?

Probably , except the first layer was already as thin as I could get it .

Quote from: yogidozer on April 28, 2018, 04:34:38 PM
how about this stuff Dusty, they sell it at Walmart. or is this what you tried?

(https://thumb.ibb.co/mWpbBx/6c23545c_90ed_4370_80aa_3a8ca023e523_1_e54afc8860d36c2cf45e6fe7d3e50b52.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mWpbBx)

here's the link to describe it.
https://www.flexsealproducts.com/product/flex-tape/

Not what I used . Still think the product was just old , although the date code said 12 0f 17 . Dunno .

Dusty
Title: Re: #$@$ Broken spoke $#@$
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 28, 2018, 06:25:16 PM: Man, if you can make a boat out of screen wire like on the tee bee, you ought to be able to solve this.. :evil: :smiley: