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Title: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: jas67 on May 05, 2018, 09:32:23 PM
I'm buying a kballowe's former V7 III Special.
So, of course, now I need to accessorize it as I had my '14 Special.

I see that there are two center stands available for it, one from Aprilia, one from Hepco & Becker.
The H&B one is $70 less. so, all else equal, I'll go with it.

Has anyone had any experience with either stand?     Is there anything reason that maybe the Aprilia one is worth the extra cost?   I'll certainly drop the extra coin if it is worth it.

Question number two is regarding the Hepco & Becker luggage mounts.    They list different part number mounts for the Mk3 V7's than Mk1 and Mk2 (mk1 and mk2 use the same ones).    Does this mean something is dimensionally different about the Mk3 that precludes using the earlier mounts, or that they just made changes to the design for some other reason?
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: malik on May 06, 2018, 12:47:55 AM
A mate with a V7 II Special found that the. H&B centrestand was better than the Guzzi one.

The III upper shock mount is now behind the sidecover down tube, so the mounting place for the luggage rack is likely a couple of inches rearwards.
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: jas67 on May 06, 2018, 06:41:50 AM
A mate with a V7 II Special found that the. H&B centrestand was better than the Guzzi one.
Good to know, and that's the cheaper one (Guzzi Content  :boozing:)

The III upper shock mount is now behind the sidecover down tube, so the mounting place for the luggage rack is likely a couple of inches rearwards.

Make sense now that I look closely at pics of both models.

Thanks!
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: kballowe on May 06, 2018, 06:51:53 AM
I'm buying a kballowe's former V7 III Special.


You are, if you're buying it from flying Tiger Motorcycles in Maplewood, Missouri.
-or- you're getting one just like it ?

I only rode mine on Sundays - and always downhill.
 :grin:
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: Kev m on May 06, 2018, 09:14:14 AM


You are, if you're buying it from flying Tiger Motorcycles in Maplewood, Missouri.


I sent him specifically looking for it thanks to your crazy post about trading it.
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: JACoH on May 06, 2018, 11:12:34 AM
I've had the Hepco & Becker on my V7 III Special since July, works great, no issues.
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: jas67 on May 06, 2018, 12:35:23 PM
You are, if you're buying it from flying Tiger Motorcycles in Maplewood, Missouri.
-or- you're getting one just like it ?

I only rode mine on Sundays - and always downhill.
 :grin:

Your actual bike, from Flying Tiger Motorcycles.   I put a deposit on it over the phone yesterday.   It should be picked up by transport guy this week on the way to or from Chicago.
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: roadscum on May 06, 2018, 12:37:50 PM
My V7 III has the H-B center stand. works fine no problems.

I also have the H-B luggage mounts and luggage. Luggage mounts for the V7 III are different because of the changes made to the V7 III. The shock mounts were relocated to give the shocks a more vertical positioning and the luggage rack is mounted to the shock mounts.

Paul
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: kballowe on May 06, 2018, 01:08:08 PM
Your actual bike, from Flying Tiger Motorcycles.   I put a deposit on it over the phone yesterday.   It should be picked up by transport guy this week on the way to or from Chicago.

Man, I can't get away with nuthin'
 :grin:

Congratulations on your new bike !!!
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: egschade on May 06, 2018, 07:21:38 PM
Went with the Givi luggage rack on my III. Lower price and very robust. I like that it attaches to the passenger peg mount vs. shock bolt.

(https://thumb.ibb.co/fOY6b7/20180210_170405_2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fOY6b7)

Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: jas67 on May 06, 2018, 08:39:58 PM
Went with the Givi luggage rack on my III. Lower price and very robust. I like that it attaches to the passenger peg mount vs. shock bolt.

(https://thumb.ibb.co/fOY6b7/20180210_170405_2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fOY6b7)


Nice beefy looking rack, but, I already have the H&B luggage, and the bike I'm buying has the H&B top case rack, so, I just need to add the side ones.

The ones on my '14 will go with the bike, which is already pending sale on Saturday.
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: Kiwi Dave on May 07, 2018, 12:06:11 AM
Nice beefy looking rack, but, I already have the H&B luggage, and the bike I'm buying has the H&B top case rack, so, I just need to add the side ones.

This is what I fitted, of course you will to also select a set of C-Bow bags to suit.

https://www.motomachines.com/Hepco-Becker-C-Bow-Carrier-For-Moto-Guzzi-V7III-in-Black_p_6133.html
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: Socalrob on May 07, 2018, 02:24:27 AM
When I put the HB centerstand on my Viii, I had to file away some of the powder coating inside the part of the stand that the big bolt goes through, as well as polish the bolt down a bit with a grinder in order to get it to fit.  No big deal though.
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: Kev m on May 07, 2018, 05:37:44 AM
This is what I fitted, of course you will to also select a set of C-Bow bags to suit.

https://www.motomachines.com/Hepco-Becker-C-Bow-Carrier-For-Moto-Guzzi-V7III-in-Black_p_6133.html
Yeah, Jay has a number of bikes with the C-bows already.
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: jas67 on May 07, 2018, 07:44:48 AM
Yeah, Jay has a number of bikes with the C-bows already.

But, I want to put the 30L Juniors on this bike.   I prefer the Juniors where the application allows for them, they're about 50% bigger than most of the C-bows, plus lockable hard cases vs. the soft bags that I've got.     I do know about the Orbit hard cases they make for the C-bow mounts, but, they're only 22L, and I already have the Juniors.    Same goes for the top case, I'm not going to invest in a Givi top case, when I already have three H&B ones (40L, 45L, and 55L).

For those not familiar with the C-bows, they do seem to be available for more bikes, and work esp. well for sport bikes and smaller bikes.  I've got them in three bikes now, V7 Racer, Monster 796, and W650.   Plus, with part of the mount that goes on the bag available separately, it's easy to convert any hard bag to mount to them as Cam did with the beautiful paint-matched Buccos for his V7 Special.
(http://image.ibb.co/fLGFK5/IMG_2557.jpg)
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: Kev m on May 07, 2018, 08:46:43 AM
I was just commenting that you were well aware of the product...
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: Kiwi Dave on May 07, 2018, 03:34:08 PM
My V7-III Stone with Givi E21 panniers mounted on C-bows and the adapter.


(https://thumb.ibb.co/eCYY8n/V7_III_Stone_with_Givi_E21_Panniers.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eCYY8n)
Title: Re: V7 III Center Stand and Luggage Mount Questions
Post by: Numbercruncher on May 07, 2018, 08:21:59 PM
I've had the Hepco & Becker on my V7 III Special since July, works great, no issues.

Any idea if, at least in general terms, you can mount a rear rack as well as side case mounts at the same time?

NC