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Title: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: britman on May 09, 2018, 05:08:07 AM
I have a 2000 Cali Bassa.  One the first couple of runs this year the valve noise seems to be somewhat more pronounced.  I did a reset during the winter and think I may have set them a little loose.  I am resetting them this afternoon and would like some advice on whether or not to re-torque the heads.  The bike has around 14k original miles, there is no oil seepage, and other than the excessive clutter, runs great.  I am leaning to doing just a lash re-set and go on with life.  Am I pissing off the "Goose" maintenance Gods?  There really seems to be varying opinions on when a re-torque is called for.   
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: Kev m on May 09, 2018, 05:46:03 AM
No need.
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 09, 2018, 09:35:38 AM
It couldn't hurt.. especially if it has never been done.
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 09, 2018, 09:51:00 AM
I would not.
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 09, 2018, 11:05:21 AM
I would.  :evil: :smiley:
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: ken farr on May 09, 2018, 11:09:32 AM
Maybe I would, but then again, maybe I wouldn't.



( so sorry for this, but I couldn't resist..)


Seriously, probably couldn't hurt....


kjf
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: oldbike54 on May 09, 2018, 11:14:53 AM
It couldn't hurt.. especially if it has never been done.

 Since the history of the bike is unknown , I agree with Chuckie . Do it this time , then don't worry for the next several times .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: Wayne Orwig on May 09, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
I would.

Maybe.

Or not.

Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: britman on May 09, 2018, 03:03:41 PM
I'll please everyone, I'll only do one side.........
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: RinkRat II on May 09, 2018, 03:12:38 PM

  Yeah, but you'll always be wondering about the other side  :evil:
 
       Paul B :boozing:
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: Kev m on May 09, 2018, 03:45:27 PM
It couldn't hurt.. especially if it has never been done.
Actually it could hurt, lots of possibilities:

* Improper technique

* Out of calibration wrench

* Head and gasket disturbed when bolts are loose

Bottom line it wasn't called for in any regular maintenance on that bike so why would anyone do it?!?
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 09, 2018, 06:34:12 PM
Actually it could hurt, lots of possibilities:

* Improper technique

* Out of calibration wrench

* Head and gasket disturbed when bolts are loose

Bottom line it wasn't called for in any regular maintenance on that bike so why would anyone do it?!?

I thought the heads were supposed to be re-torqued at the first service?
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: Kev m on May 09, 2018, 06:40:01 PM
I thought the heads were supposed to be re-torqued at the first service?
Unless I'm remembering incorrectly no, not on late-model 1100 Calis, CARCs, Cali 1400's, or V9/V7IIIs.
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: jacksonracingcomau on May 09, 2018, 07:24:11 PM
If clearances are loose, adjust and be happy
If any are tight. Retorque
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: britman on May 10, 2018, 01:23:52 PM
I went ahead and did a re-torque.  A test with the torque wrench set at 30 lbs showed a little budge on a couple of the visible bots.  I went ahead and pulled the lifters, cracked them all slightly, and started at 20lbs working up to 35 in a progressive manner.  Lash set at .004 and .006 and after a short test run, I am impressed.  Noise is down, and maybe it is just because I don't think I screwed anything up, the bike feels a little more feisty.  Just one piece of advice to anyone thinking about this procedure, if possible do it when the tank is off, I believe it would be much easier to insert the pins from the top.......
Title: Re: Torque or Not to Torque
Post by: malik on May 10, 2018, 04:12:08 PM
If there's still a noise that shouldn't be there, check the exhaust for leaks. A small leak at the header/exhaust port can sound something like tappet noise (at least, to me).