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Title: MI general alarm now off!
Post by: Rich A on May 17, 2018, 07:50:39 AM
2017 V7III Special with ~300 mi. General engine alarm is on, solid orange, not blinking. No error message on screen. Oil level checked and OK. Bike seems be be running fine, no hiccups.

I'm thinking one possibility is a bad lambda sensor. I think I can check the lambda sensors with Guzzidiag--is this correct? Any other suggestions for things to check would be appreciated.

The dealer is 4.5 hours away.

Rich A


Update: I checked the lambda sensors and some other readings with Guzzidiag--everything seems to be ok. Cleared the alarm and the light has stayed off. Time to ride!
Title: Re: General engine alarm!
Post by: Lannis on May 17, 2018, 07:59:18 AM
2017 V7III Special with ~300 mi. General engine alarm is on, solid orange, not blinking. No error message on screen. Oil level checked and OK. Bike seems be be running fine, no hiccups.

I'm thinking one possibility is a bad lambda sensor. I think I can check the lambda sensors with Guzzidiag--is this correct? Any other suggestions for things to check would be appreciated.

The dealer is 4.5 hours away.

Rich A

May have nothing to do with your bike's system, but on my Stelvio, that very thing would happen when the Speedometer Sensor on the back wheel would get wet.    Dried it and sealed it and doesn't happen any more.

Lannis
Title: Re: General engine alarm!
Post by: JohninVT on May 17, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
May have nothing to do with your bike's system, but on my Stelvio, that very thing would happen when the Speedometer Sensor on the back wheel would get wet.    Dried it and sealed it and doesn't happen any more.

Lannis

How the hell did you figure that out?  It must have taken a looooong time through the process of elimination to discover.
Title: Re: General engine alarm!
Post by: Lannis on May 17, 2018, 08:10:55 AM
How the hell did you figure that out?  It must have taken a looooong time through the process of elimination to discover.

Wild Guzzi, of course!   Wayne Orwig, if I remember correctly ... along with the solution of drying it with a hair-dryer, and dipping it in silicone to seal up where the wire goes into the sensor.   I bought a new sensor, but 50,000 miles later it's still on the shelf ... !

Matter of fact, I found the 8-year-old thread .... http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=41520.0

Lots of people helped.

Lannis
Title: Re: General engine alarm!
Post by: Rich A on May 17, 2018, 08:33:16 AM
May have nothing to do with your bike's system, but on my Stelvio, that very thing would happen when the Speedometer Sensor on the back wheel would get wet.    Dried it and sealed it and doesn't happen any more.

Lannis

I'm in New Mexico. We haven't had any rain for at least a month, so that's likely not the problem.

Rich
Title: Re: General engine alarm!
Post by: guzzisteve on May 17, 2018, 08:55:15 AM
If you have that ABS/traction control stuff on that bike you may look there. All I could think of.
Title: Re: General engine alarm!
Post by: Guzzi Gal on May 17, 2018, 04:58:37 PM
If you have that ABS/traction control stuff on that bike you may look there. All I could think of.

I had the same issue so I read the manual cover to cover (again) and traction control was the only light that fit the bill.  Ran it through the calibrate protocols and all was fixed.
Title: Re: General engine alarm!
Post by: Rich A on May 17, 2018, 05:25:08 PM
I had the same issue so I read the manual cover to cover (again) and traction control was the only light that fit the bill.  Ran it through the calibrate protocols and all was fixed.

It's the MI general alarm light that is lit, the one that looks like an automobile engine. There's separate light for the MGCT (traction control)--it's not that one that's lit. I don't see anything in the manual that connects the MGCT to the MI general alarm light.
Title: Re: Correction it's the MI general alarm!
Post by: kballowe on May 17, 2018, 05:52:05 PM
2017 V7III Special with ~300 mi. General engine alarm is on, solid orange, not blinking. No error message on screen. Oil level checked and OK. Bike seems be be running fine, no hiccups.

I'm thinking one possibility is a bad lambda sensor. I think I can check the lambda sensors with Guzzidiag--is this correct? Any other suggestions for things to check would be appreciated.

The dealer is 4.5 hours away.

Rich A

Mine did that at 97 miles.  First time we got a really hot day.  Same as yours - oil full - no funky noises, etc.
Started it up the next day and the light was off.

There are a few threads out there that blame it on an oxygen sensor.  It doesn't throw an error code, either
Title: Re: Correction it's the MI general alarm!
Post by: Rich A on May 17, 2018, 06:02:28 PM
There are a few threads out there that blame it on an oxygen sensor.  It doesn't throw an error code, either

I'm trying to find out if Guzzidiag will show a bad lambda/oxygen sensor. It looks as though there are several options for lambda sensor readings in the menus.

Rich
Title: Re: General engine alarm!
Post by: jas67 on May 17, 2018, 07:40:34 PM
I had the same issue so I read the manual cover to cover (again) and traction control was the only light that fit the bill.  Ran it through the calibrate protocols and all was fixed.

Calibrate protocols?   Please educate me, as I'm a new V7-III owner.

Title: Re: General engine alarm!
Post by: Rich A on May 17, 2018, 07:54:29 PM
Calibrate protocols?   Please educate me, as I'm a new V7-III owner.

P. 52 of the manual

MGCT SYSTEM CALIBRATION PROCEDURE In order to maintain the effectiveness of the MGCT system following the replacement of one or both tyres or in the case of serious wear, causing a non-compliant behaviour of the MGCT, a calibration procedure of the system must be performed as follows on a straight flat stretch of road.
Check that the tyres are inflated to the correct pressure before calibrating the MGCT system.
• Allow the engine to idle for at least 5 seconds.
• Check that the MGCT is activated at level 1 or 2. Otherwise, activate it.
• Pull the clutch lever while pressing the starter button (3) for at least 5 seconds. The activation of the process will be confirmed by the MGCT warning light (2) turning on with fast flashing.
• Accelerate to a constant speed of 30 km/h (18.64 mph) in second gear, and maintain this speed for at least 8 seconds.
• The end of the procedure will be indicated by the MGCT warning light (2) turning off. The MGCT system is active.
• Once the procedure is completed, it is necessary to switch the ignition key to (OFF) and wait for at least 60 seconds before being able to switch again to (ON).
• In case of failure to complete the procedure within 2 minutes, the MGCT warning light (2) will stay on steady and the MGCT system will remain off until switching to (OFF).
• To reactivate the MGCT system, it must be switched again to (ON). It is however necessary to repeat the process until it succeeds.
Title: Re: MI general alarm now off!
Post by: Mike123456 on May 23, 2018, 08:56:20 AM
I had the same issue on a newish v7iii. After using some Google-fu, I found that the most common issue is caused by a faulty sensor, and the second most common cause was loose connections. I tried the latter and lo' and behold, after "fiddling" and checking connections under the tank area, the problem was solved. I don't know which wire/connection it was, but it worked!

Hope that helps someone

Mike

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