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Title: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Gliderjohn on May 21, 2018, 09:01:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0PjNPAndgM
GliderJohn
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Lannis on May 21, 2018, 09:03:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0PjNPAndgM
GliderJohn

You're gonna be sorrrreeeee ....
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Gliderjohn on May 21, 2018, 09:15:45 PM
Turns out to be an R/C model. Should have watched more carefully. Good R/C flying anyway.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: oldbike54 on May 21, 2018, 09:20:10 PM
Turns out to be an R/C model. Should have watched more carefully. Good R/C flying anyway.
GliderJohn

 Were you in Hewins Park when the RC plane was flying over on the West end ? Plane was amazing , and the pilot was very good .

 Dusty
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: cloudbase on May 21, 2018, 09:21:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89EMDZ0dsc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89EMDZ0dsc)
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: guzzisteve on May 21, 2018, 09:21:39 PM
It's fake news.
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Mr Pootle on May 22, 2018, 01:41:07 AM
 I wish I’d not watched that. I’m flying to Japan tomorrow.
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Lannis on May 22, 2018, 07:41:37 AM
I wish I�d not watched that. I�m flying to Japan tomorrow.

I'm the same way.   Always been interested in airplanes, never have figured out how they fly so many hours with so few accidents, but I can tell you about all the airline accidents, including the ones where:

1) The pilots are chatting up the stewardesses and forget to set the flaps for takeoff.

2) They're trying to make the schedule and try to save a blown approach.

3) Some modern pilots only know how to operate the computers and don't know how to actually fly the plane (AF 447)

4) Someone took a maintenance shortcut and didn't install an engine right, or didn't grease a jackscrew, and for want of a nail a kingdom was lost ....

Statistically, the safest way to go.   "Perception of risk" - well ......

Lannis
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Lannis on May 22, 2018, 09:12:45 AM
Did you wonder how come the complete lack of lift on one side did not result in an uncontrollable roll ?
Absolute unadulterated garbage...!


Well now I know it's not exactly the same thing, but you wouldn't think this one would get on the ground safely either ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M359poNjvVA

Lannis
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Gliderjohn on May 22, 2018, 10:08:36 AM
From Huzo:
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Did you wonder how come the complete lack of lift on one side did not result in an uncontrollable roll ?

My guess would be a high power to weight ratio with some torque twist along with a lot of rudder authority. It appears as the plane prepares to land that it is doing a knife edge type of maneuver that actual aerobatic planes can pull off relying more on engine thrust than wing lift at that point to stay aloft.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: oldbike54 on May 22, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
From Huzo:
My guess would be a high power to weight ratio with some torque twist along with a lot of rudder authority. It appears as the plane prepares to land that it is doing a knife edge type of maneuver that actual aerobatic planes can pull off relying more on engine thrust than wing lift at that point to stay aloft.
GliderJohn

 The R/C plane at Cedar Vale could hover for minutes at a time .

 Dusty
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Huzo on May 22, 2018, 04:42:06 PM
I don't want to brlieve it, but I think I have to.
Having the left wing would giive a right roll response and wouid work to counter the torque tendancy.
It does have large ailerons but how that is enough authority to overcome the roll tendancy in the dive, is beyond me.
Dunno how he got the roll at the end to level it out, but I have to take back my initial response. (Tentatively)
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Lannis on May 22, 2018, 04:58:28 PM
I don't want to brlieve it, but I think I have to.
Having the left wing would giive a right roll response and wouid work to counter the torque tendancy.
It does have large ailerons but how that is enough authority to overcome the roll tendancy in the dive, is beyond me.
Dunno how he got the roll at the end to level it out, but I have to take back my initial response. (Tentatively)

You do know that this video is of a small RC airplane and a bit of fancy post-processing ... ?
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: Huzo on May 22, 2018, 05:14:11 PM
You do know that this video is of a small RC airplane and a bit of fancy post-processing ... ?
Never seen it, but I do know there are some fundamental rules of flight broken. But just because I could not have done it, I'm open to discussion.
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: jdgretz on May 23, 2018, 01:31:55 AM
From Aviation Web back in 2008...

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What's wrong with this picture? Plenty.

Read more, here:
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclu...

... and if anyone's still unsure, drop us a line and we'll explain what a spar is and what it looks like inside a wing.

jdg
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: tris on May 23, 2018, 01:46:10 AM
From Huzo:
My guess would be a high power to weight ratio with some torque twist along with a lot of rudder authority. It appears as the plane prepares to land that it is doing a knife edge type of maneuver that actual aerobatic planes can pull off relying more on engine thrust than wing lift at that point to stay aloft.
GliderJohn

This

Back in the days when I flew model aircraft (free flight gliders and control line) I can remember seeing a RC flying dog house and a "Snoopy"

Both had only rudimentary flight controls but were made from polystyrene sheet and had a big ole 10cc motor up front  :thumb:
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: quota2000 on May 23, 2018, 08:13:52 AM
Defying the laws of physics?

Anyone want to go for a helicopter ride?   :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItAh7vAvz8o

Regards,

Jeff
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: quota2000 on May 23, 2018, 08:26:28 AM
R/C jets have come a long way, too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhiUFCagFdI

Regards,

Jeff
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: quota2000 on May 23, 2018, 08:31:03 AM
pretty sure this would break a real plane! (the pilot might break first, though!)

If you don't watch the whole video, make sure you at least watch the landing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86PK7Nkt8Ww

Regards,

Jeff
Title: Re: (NGC) - Airplane related...you got to see this. What HP and a great pilot can do
Post by: LowRyter on May 23, 2018, 09:01:17 AM
CGI? OK