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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ronkom on June 13, 2018, 11:58:45 AM
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I'm trying to bring a '74 Guzzi 125 Tuttoterreno back to life. A two-stroke, pre mix fuel, 6 volt anachronism. Years ago, when Cosmopolitan Motors was still around I bought the parts it appeared I'd need when I finally got into this thing, but for a 175 Benelli which was a very close cousin from the DeTomasso days. Everything was fine until I took my NOS points out of the box.....completely different animals.
So this is a 44 year old bike that was never officially imported into the US (lotsa luck finding bits over here!).
I need a set of points & a condenser:
Bike is ID'd as a 1974 MOTO GUZZI stamped in the neck w/number DGM 12988 OM.
Electrics are DANSI, Mag flywheel is stamped ASL 308 NB. The base w/the coils, points etc. has no ID numbers. The condenser is marked u F.O.29 Dansi 5020. The "u" is stylized I think it's an electronics symbol, but swiss cheese brain can't bring up the details.
Any and all help appreciated,
ronkom
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I'm trying to bring a '74 Guzzi 125 Tuttoterreno back to life. A two-stroke, pre mix fuel, 6 volt anachronism. Years ago, when Cosmopolitan Motors was still around I bought the parts it appeared I'd need when I finally got into this thing, but for a 175 Benelli which was a very close cousin from the DeTomasso days. Everything was fine until I took my NOS points out of the box.....completely different animals.
So this is a 44 year old bike that was never officially imported into the US (lotsa luck finding bits over here!).
I need a set of points & a condenser:
Bike is ID'd as a 1974 MOTO GUZZI stamped in the neck w/number DGM 12988 OM.
Electrics are DANSI, Mag flywheel is stamped ASL 308 NB. The base w/the coils, points etc. has no ID numbers. The condenser is marked u F.O.29 Dansi 5020. The "u" is stylized I think it's an electronics symbol, but swiss cheese brain can't bring up the details.
Any and all help appreciated,
ronkom
The stylized u is a Greek letter mu, and should be right up against the F. The combination of the two is the symbol for microFarads, the measure of capacitance. Apart from that, I can't help!
(Except to perhaps suggest that any old condenser that fits and has that capacity or greater should do.)
EDIT: The inscribed "u F.O.29" should mean 0.29 microfarads, which is in the right range for an automotive condenser. I can't explain the "." after the "F", however.
Good luck.
Moto
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Thanks Moto, that rang a bell.
Ron
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You're welcome, Ron.
Here's even better news: That Dansi 5020 is available for purchase, new in the box, right here, for about $11:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DANSI-CONDENSER-FOR-MOTO-Guzzi-Benelli-Morini-APRILIA-DANSI-5020-PART-403933-/232682092839 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/DANSI-CONDENSER-FOR-MOTO-Guzzi-Benelli-Morini-APRILIA-DANSI-5020-PART-403933-/232682092839)
So half your problem is solved!
Moto
P.S. The seller has 10 of them, so he/she might have other related components. You might ask him about the points you need when making a purchase.
P.P.S. A quick ebay search for "dansi points guzzi" turned up some likely-looking candidates. You could compare their appearance with your points.
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Looks a bit like the condenser used on small-blocks.
http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_157&products_id=898
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Anything look familiar here?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=dansi+points&_sacat=6000&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=3570+8800
Or here? http://guzzino.com/pococo.html
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I don't see the old points in the parts boxes I've checked so far...but I have more places to look & may be able to get a picture yet. Meantime I've found that there was a Benelli 125 enduro model that appears identical to the Guzzi I have. I was able to find a parts manual on line & am pursuing buying Benelli parts: 779.001.0.799 "breaker complete", 783.051.0.799 "oil seal set", 723.001.0.799 "condenser", and 783.003.0.799 "screw & washer set" The company is in Europe & I'm going through establishing an online account.....then I guess we'll see if they really have the parts.
Ron
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Several of y'all requested pictures of the old points. Well, they were rusted to the point that the spring leaf had broken so, apparently I pitched them. (Of course I didn't think to check the new ones I have first-duh!). I have surfed the web for pictures & the best I've found is:
"https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-COMPLETE-FLYWHEEL-MAGNETO-FOR-BENELLI-FIREBALL-DYNAMO-WARDS-450SS/332684399783?"
My base & coils are slightly different, but the point set looks like it would work in my magneto.
Thanks for any & all help,
Ron
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I just "bit the bullet" & ordered parts from "benelli-bauer-shop@t-online.de" in Germany. They are for a Benelli 125 Enduro, which, after examining the parts book online appears identical to the 125 Guzzi.
Fingers crossed
Ron
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Well my little box of parts finally came from Germany......and the point set is..wrong. Back to square one. Motorcycle is useless w/out a set of points. Additional info: I noticed the number stamped into the motor block is different than the frame number. Motor is stamped:
MOTO GUZZI MC*11572* It spins counter-clockwise.
I addition to the DGM number on the frame neck, the other side is stamped: MC*16749*MOTO GUZZI
Again, any and all help appreciated.
Ron
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diligent searching of the 'net had not turned up a downloadable 125TT parts book...yet. But, last night I did find one for the 125 "Turismo" Looking at the illustrations it appears to be the same basic bike in street mode. The point set part number listed is "35 70 88 00".
Ron