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Title: He Spit on Me!
Post by: JeffOlson on July 11, 2018, 01:05:41 PM
Riding to work today on I-5, a pickup truck driver rolled down his window and spit on me!

I was in the fast lane, traveling at about 80 MPH on my Norge, passing the middle lane that was moving at about 75. A Tundra driver came up fast behind me, so I got over to the right and slowed down to let him pass. Once he had passed me, I pulled over into the fast lane again and resumed my previous speed. That is when he rolled down his window and spit while watching me in his mirror. Nice!

I remained calm and rode on, but it confirmed my suspicion that I really do like dogs better than most people...
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Ncdan on July 11, 2018, 01:14:37 PM
I commend you Sir for remaining  a gentleman and what goes around comes around. Karma can be a bitch!
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on July 11, 2018, 01:25:55 PM
Super nasty!  I guess we have to factor in spit trajectories as we determine safe following distances.  (smile through it)
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: PJPR01 on July 11, 2018, 01:34:11 PM
Certainly makes the case for a full face helmet! 

Sometimes you can do all the right things and still an asshole comes along to ruin your ride.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Toecutter on July 11, 2018, 01:35:40 PM
Some people are just assholes.

In Alberta, some trucks took great pleasure in passing me as close as possible, and hitting the horn just as they reached the blind spot. Happened several times.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: bigbikerrick on July 11, 2018, 01:36:05 PM
I once had about the same scenario, and a driver in a minivan in front of me dumped out a cup of old coffee, while looking in the mirror. actually stuck his arm out then inverted the cup.
I kept my cool, and just "let it go". Like Eddie Murphy said....sometimes if  someone steps on your new Pumas, you just  gotta "Let it slide"!
Its the smart thing to do.
Rick.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: yogidozer on July 11, 2018, 01:40:16 PM
Riding to work today on I-5, a pickup truck driver rolled down his window and spit on me!

I was in the fast lane, traveling at about 80 MPH on my Norge, passing the middle lane that was moving at about 75. A Tundra driver came up fast behind me, so I got over to the right and slowed down to let him pass. Once he had passed me, I pulled over into the fast lane again and resumed my previous speed. That is when he rolled down his window and spit while watching me in his mirror. Nice!

I remained calm and rode on, but it confirmed my suspicion that I really do like dogs better than most people...
It's not a suspicion, dogs ARE better than most people!  :grin:
You did the right thing, I hope I would be able to be in control as you were.
I'm really good at remembering numbers. I would have got his plate number and had a talk with the next cop I saw. Good chance when he ran the plate, he would find something on the guy.

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Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Guzzi Gal on July 11, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
GROSS!  He was probably looking to ruin someone's day and I'm glad you didn't take the bait. :bike-037: 
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 11, 2018, 01:54:00 PM
Nasty bastard! Good on you for keeping your cool. And yes, I’d much rather be with my dog.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: lazlokovacs on July 11, 2018, 02:01:28 PM
Old coffee, spit, gross!! good for you on keeping calm


don't react, note their licence number, seems like great advice
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: fubar guzzi on July 11, 2018, 02:38:53 PM
I cant help myself----if it were me I would have thrown my beer bottle at him once I passed him I wouldnt care how much was left in it :evil:
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: twowings on July 11, 2018, 02:42:22 PM
You were expectorating better behavior, no?
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: slopokes on July 11, 2018, 02:48:17 PM
They ever do that to me I will throw my colostomy bag at em.😇
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: John Croucher on July 11, 2018, 02:51:40 PM
I have been intentionally sprayed with windshield washer fluid, spit on, cigarettes and other litter thrown at me.  Along with more than one large bug or hard item tossed up from the road that bounced off my face shield.  Motorcycle riding is dirty business.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Rhodan on July 11, 2018, 03:08:09 PM
...it confirmed my suspicion that I really do like dogs better than most people...

With dogs, sharing saliva is a sign of affection.  In this case, I don't think he was tryin' to give you a kiss.

Well done man.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: JeffOlson on July 11, 2018, 03:11:37 PM
Ha!

At least it was not as bad as the cow urine and feces I used to ride through when we lived out on a farm!
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: pressureangle on July 11, 2018, 03:11:46 PM
What a fine gentleman's club. I commend you all.

Me, I'd have followed him until I could get a pic of his licence plate and filed assault & battery charges. Unless he got out and approached me, then one of us would go to the hospital.

I don't play that, and I never have. Still have the scars to prove it lol
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 11, 2018, 03:20:44 PM
Ha!

At least it was not as bad as the cow urine and feces I used to ride through when we lived out on a farm!

I rode up behind a stock trailer......once  :angry:
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: oldbike54 on July 11, 2018, 03:43:11 PM
 A teenage boy in a car tried to throw a Big Gulp at me , most of it ended up on the driver of the car . It was really funny  :evil:

 Dusty
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: twowings on July 11, 2018, 03:59:08 PM
It's only battery if the spit hits the spam...simple assault in this case...
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: yogidozer on July 11, 2018, 04:05:17 PM
Those who would do something back to the guy would be smarter to give a cop the plate number.
Because when it escalates, and it will, the possibilities are.
#1 he will try, and likely run you over/force you off the road.
#2 he might shoot you
#3 the cops will show up, and you both will be arrested for roadrage.
Be smart, let the cops handle it. Don't lower yourself, to his level or risk your life.
This ain't the 60s anymore, and you're not 18.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: JJ on July 11, 2018, 04:18:07 PM
I am always appalled at the total ignorance of some people... :shocked: :shocked:...but I applaud you for your restraint...

Any act of Road Rage never ends well on a motorcycle...you did the right thing, but incident like that still pisses one off!! :sad:
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: TimmyTheHog on July 11, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
You sir have a lot more manner than I do...

1. it is freaking gross

2. it is freaking annoying

3. did I mention gross?

If it hits me in the spot where my clothes not cover AKA neck/open shield, incoming iron knuckles to the mirror...(yes I know, I should not condone violence :P)
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: oldbike54 on July 11, 2018, 04:43:47 PM
You sir have a lot more manner than I do...

1. it is freaking gross

2. it is freaking annoying

3. did I mention gross?

If it hits me in the spot where my clothes not cover AKA neck/open shield, incoming iron knuckles to the mirror...(yes I know, I should not condone violence :P)

 Yeah , but can't you just show him your badge , that always freaks asshats out  :evil:

 Dusty
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: bad Chad on July 11, 2018, 05:02:30 PM
I am not doubting your story,  yet I am confused how this worked?

You two were traveling 80 plus mph and he was able to spit out the window at you?   I'm not particularly good at spitting, I'm pretty sure I couldn't spit without spitting on myself at that speed.  But it must  be me right?   And you mean he spit out the window and then looked at you in the rear view mirror?    I do know it's impossible to spit out the window while watching the guy behind you in the mirror.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Lannis on July 11, 2018, 06:27:39 PM
What a fine gentleman's club. I commend you all.

Me, I'd have followed him until I could get a pic of his licence plate and filed assault & battery charges. Unless he got out and approached me, then one of us would go to the hospital.

I don't play that, and I never have. Still have the scars to prove it lol

I sort of think of it this way ... if you were walking down the street, and a guy coming the other way leaned over and spit in your face, would you just grin and walk on down the street without doing anything?    Or if you're in a restaurant, and a guy comes over and pours his Diet Coke over your wife and asks you what you're going to do about it, do you just tell your wife "Don't worry about it hon, we're not going to descend to his level?"

Just asking the restrained gentlemen.   Not saying what I would do.

Lannid
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Rough Edge racing on July 11, 2018, 06:53:47 PM
I sort of think of it this way ... if you were walking down the street, and a guy coming the other way leaned over and spit in your face, would you just grin and walk on down the street without doing anything?    Or if you're in a restaurant, and a guy comes over and pours his Diet Coke over your wife and asks you what you're going to do about it, do you just tell your wife "Don't worry about it hon, we're not going to descend to his level?"

Just asking the restrained gentlemen.   Not saying what I would do.

Lannis

 Not saying what I would do in your scenario but I suspect there might be a confrontation unless outnumbered..... but on a bike is a bit less personal than sitting at a table or walking down the street...
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: yogidozer on July 11, 2018, 06:57:23 PM
I sort of think of it this way ... if you were walking down the street, and a guy coming the other way leaned over and spit in your face, would you just grin and walk on down the street without doing anything?    Or if you're in a restaurant, and a guy comes over and pours his Diet Coke over your wife and asks you what you're going to do about it, do you just tell your wife "Don't worry about it hon, we're not going to descend to his level?"

Just asking the restrained gentlemen.   Not saying what I would do.

Lannid
that's got nothing to do with some nut in a truck, when you're on a bike. but dream on
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Lannis on July 11, 2018, 07:15:47 PM
that's got nothing to do with some nut in a truck, when you're on a bike. but dream on

Really?  Ok then.  I wasn't "dreaming", I was just asking a question.   Regardless of whether there's a truck involved, one person spitting on another is still pretty bad.

Lannis
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Darren Williams on July 11, 2018, 07:18:56 PM
I'll just focus on the dog slobber part. Dogs are mostly better than people character wise, IMHO.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: lucian on July 11, 2018, 07:30:19 PM
My Dad always was able to restrain himself when necessary. He used to tell me not to feel like you had to be the one to deal out justice. That justice would usually catch up with those who deserved it. Sounds like this ass wipe is a perfect example. You played it right , anyone low enough to do that will certainly create his own miserable existence. I'm glad he wasn't a tobacco chewer! You took one for the team and did the Guzzi community proud.  Well played!
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Rough Edge racing on July 11, 2018, 07:39:32 PM
 I say again,sometimes you need to confront a bully..
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 11, 2018, 08:07:44 PM
I say again,sometimes you need to confront a bully..

IF you're feet are firmly planted and you are able to put the first punch in and make it hurt, yes. No such thing as a fair fight.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Markcarovilli on July 11, 2018, 08:19:33 PM
Being on a bike and thinking of retaliation is not a situation I want to be in.  Something that has served me well is you don’t f$&k with mass...

Mark
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: oldbike54 on July 11, 2018, 08:20:26 PM
 There's right , then there's dead right .

 Dusty
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Bud on July 11, 2018, 08:30:27 PM
     I like the idea of reporting the plate to the police but I doubt they would do anything. I live in a town in Connecticut that has a large police force and a chief that gets paid more than the UCONN police chief. Today I came across a large amount of fluid across an intersection and the car pulled over not far down the road. Looked like oil or antifreeze and the first thing I thought of was some poor guy or gal on a bike going down. Immediately pulled into a parking lot and called the police and asked them to check it out. The dispatcher said it was a state road and he would notify them. Lazy freaking a holes have about 6 cops on duty and the department is a half a mile down the road.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: asquaredgray on July 11, 2018, 08:49:40 PM
There's right , then there's dead right .


This is exactly what I say to bicyclists in the city who don’t ride defensively and justify it with “but I had the right of way!”.


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Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Devildog on July 11, 2018, 09:09:33 PM
and dogs don't ever get road rage.
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Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Gliderjohn on July 11, 2018, 09:19:31 PM
From Devildog:
Quote
and dogs don't ever get road rage.

Growing up many a farm dog displayed road rage every time you drove or rode in front of their place. Would chase your vehicle barking like mad.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Shorty on July 11, 2018, 09:29:01 PM
It would be cool to have a hidden fairing mounted paintball gun , computer controlled, to write " You asshole" backwards on the spitter's rear window...... :evil:
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Rich A on July 11, 2018, 09:41:33 PM
Not that I would do it, but this is how people end up getting shot.

Rich
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Lannis on July 11, 2018, 09:48:59 PM
Not that I would do it, but this is how people end up getting shot.

Rich

That happens a lot less often than we think it does.

And the throwing of ball bearings and spark plugs through offenders windshields by motorcyclists, as well as the kicking in of car doors, probably actually has happened over the years about once for every 10,000 times it's mentioned on the Internet ... if that.

I recognize that I'm not going to fight an F450 Ford with my 600 Bandit ... but I agree with Rough Edge Racing that you're not doing the world any favors by meekly accepting bullying.   If Mr. Tough Guy is sitting in his pickup at the curb and spits on you in the parking lot, does that pass?   Seems to be a question no one wants to answer, but that's OK because it IS an answer ....

Lannis
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Shorty on July 12, 2018, 12:37:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCOp14OHJyg

 :grin:  Is that a BSA? Can't make it out.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: JohninVT on July 12, 2018, 04:53:04 AM
There are layers to assault that involve insulting or degrading actions.  For example, slapping a grown man is more offensive than hitting him with a closed fist.  Spitting on someone is, IMHO, just the lowest of the low.  Other than whipping it out and pissing on a guy I can't think of a more offensive, insulting act. 

I don't know what I would have done but it would have enraged me.  I think I would have followed him until he stopped and gotten off my bike to confront him.  I know that's a stupid thing to do but being spit on simply isn't something I could let slide.  I don't consider myself a Billy Badass or anything but there are some things so insulting they warrant a confrontation(verbally at the very least).

You did the right thing by ignoring it.  However, punching the side mirror off his vehicle at the next stop light would have been understandable and appropriate response as well.  I'll probably get a lot of responses with some clucking, shaking of heads and wagging of fingers but that's my two cents.     
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Rough Edge racing on July 12, 2018, 05:11:14 AM
That happens a lot less often than we think it does.

And the throwing of ball bearings and spark plugs through offenders windshields by motorcyclists, as well as the kicking in of car doors, probably actually has happened over the years about once for every 10,000 times it's mentioned on the Internet ... if that.

I recognize that I'm not going to fight an F450 Ford with my 600 Bandit ... but I agree with Rough Edge Racing that you're not doing the world any favors by meekly accepting bullying.   If Mr. Tough Guy is sitting in his pickup at the curb and spits on you in the parking lot, does that pass?   Seems to be a question no one wants to answer, but that's OK because it IS an answer ....

Lannis


   
 And when I say to confront a bully it does not necessarily mean violence...
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: JeffOlson on July 12, 2018, 08:58:54 AM
There is the dilemma: how to respond to bad behavior that warrants a spanking without the confrontation ending in violence and death. Go for it and hope for the best, or turn the other cheek? I do have guns. Perhaps the spitter does too. We could try grappling first, and then fisticuffs, and then rocks and sticks, and then knives, and then guns...

I do not have a good answer, other than for me in that situation to simply let it go.

The other day at the Walmart store near us, a pastor shot a violent car-jacker dead. The pastor absolutely did the right then, and many people around here are glad he was carrying that day. In his situation, the choice was clear to protect the life of the innocent car owner faced with death.

But what is a little spittle between commuters?
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: John A on July 12, 2018, 09:32:23 AM
It depends on your age, mindset and where you are as to your response. It happened to me long time ago in a city I lived in. I got the guy to follow me and set him up to attack me off the bike planning to execute him in self defense . I gave him an out and he didn't take the final bait .I was fascinated by how easy it was.I'd probly be out of prison by now. I learned something and wouldn't handle it the same way now, mostly you never know what you will do until it happens. My advise is don't respond if you don't have to, you'll never see them again.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Toecutter on July 12, 2018, 09:39:00 AM
From Devildog:
Growing up many a farm dog displayed road rage every time you drove or rode in front of their place. Would chase your vehicle barking like mad.
GliderJohn

North of here, near my wife's uncle's farm... there's a farmer that hangs a fake body from a noose in his front yard, and has trained his dogs to *literally attack* vehicles.  Not chase, not bark at... attack. I shudder to think what would happen if someone rode a motorcycle past his place, or got a flat tire near it.

Dude's a psycho. What the hell is wrong with some people?
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: yogidozer on July 12, 2018, 09:53:07 AM
North of here, near my wife's uncle's farm... there's a farmer that hangs a fake body from a noose in his front yard, and has trained his dogs to *literally attack* vehicles.  Not chase, not bark at... attack. I shudder to think what would happen if someone rode a motorcycle past his place, or got a flat tire near it.

Dude's a psycho. What the hell is wrong with some people?
sad part is, the dogs will be the ones that lose their life, when they are just doing what they are trained to do, and to make their owner happy.
that POS doesn't love dogs at all  :angry:
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Toecutter on July 12, 2018, 10:04:40 AM
sad part is, the dogs will be the ones that lose their life, when they are just doing what they are trained to do, and to make their owner happy.
that POS doesn't love dogs at all  :angry:

That POS needs to be committed.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Rough Edge racing on July 12, 2018, 10:21:05 AM
 Some dogs are just plain stupid and like to chase cars..Or motorcycles..Or bicycles or runners...
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Lannis on July 12, 2018, 10:28:19 AM
Some dogs are just plain stupid and like to chase cars..Or motorcycles..Or bicycles or runners...

More usually it's the people responsible for the dog that are stupid.   Dogs generally want to do what their people want them to do ... been that way ever since the first wild canines edged up to the fire and were tossed a bone in return for alerting the tribe of intruders and helping them hunt.

If dogs are ignored, or see their people doing stupid things, or are abused, then they'll come up with something to do all on their own ... and "protect the tribe" by chasing anything moving that doesn't belong ....

Lannis
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Rough Edge racing on July 12, 2018, 01:36:49 PM
More usually it's the people responsible for the dog that are stupid.   Dogs generally want to do what their people want them to do ... been that way ever since the first wild canines edged up to the fire and were tossed a bone in return for alerting the tribe of intruders and helping them hunt.

If dogs are ignored, or see their people doing stupid things, or are abused, then they'll come up with something to do all on their own ... and "protect the tribe" by chasing anything moving that doesn't belong ....

Lannis

  ...I've been around dogs, cats, chickens for a long time...They all have different temperament and personalities. Even the chickens with a brain the size of you thumbnail have their individual traits...I'm not saying a dog or any animal can't be affected by a stupid or cruel owner...But some animals are just bad to the bone right out of the womb or egg.. And some others are so smart it's scary...
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on July 12, 2018, 03:10:48 PM
North of here, near my wife's uncle's farm... there's a farmer that hangs a fake body from a noose in his front yard, and has trained his dogs to *literally attack* vehicles.  Not chase, not bark at... attack. I shudder to think what would happen if someone rode a motorcycle past his place, or got a flat tire near it.

Dude's a psycho. What the hell is wrong with some people?
I don't know what part of the country we're talking about, but that situation needs some cleaning up.  Not always fun to do, but town officials can be helpful when there is a real menace and they see liability somewhere $$$$$$.  Sometimes it takes some finding and pointing out, but I've had good luck with small town officials who want what's best for their neighbors.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Toecutter on July 12, 2018, 03:43:13 PM
I don't know what part of the country we're talking about, but that situation needs some cleaning up.  Not always fun to do, but town officials can be helpful when there is a real menace and they see liability somewhere $$$$$$.  Sometimes it takes some finding and pointing out, but I've had good luck with small town officials who want what's best for their neighbors.


Western Canada. We're a vast, wide open space, and rural policing is stretched extremely thin these days, with much larger issues at hand. Things are getting... tense in many rural areas.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on July 12, 2018, 03:45:30 PM

Western Canada. We're a vast, wide open space, and rural policing is stretched extremely thin these days, with much larger issues at hand. Things are getting... tense in many rural areas.
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Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: yogidozer on July 12, 2018, 03:53:26 PM
I got this single shot 30-30, hand-loaded 125gr Nosler Ballistic Tips.
I love dogs, people? eh  :wink:
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: TimmyTheHog on July 12, 2018, 04:00:46 PM

Western Canada. We're a vast, wide open space, and rural policing is stretched extremely thin these days, with much larger issues at hand. Things are getting... tense in many rural areas.

ya...there are a few of those "special type people" up here (Western Canada) thinking running motorcyclist over is FUN...and they are not shy BROADCASTING on social media about it!...

Make me quite sick and sad...how does taking one's life away fun?... :thewife:
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Toecutter on July 12, 2018, 04:24:46 PM
As my 8th grade science teacher made us pledge in writing on all tests U R O N U R O W N - honor system.

Some folks are taking that idea to heart lately... thing is... it isn't making anything better. Plus, a lot of the folks that are taking it to heart... aren't exactly the kind of folks to be making snap judgements.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Lannis on July 12, 2018, 04:35:14 PM
All the good things I've heard about riding in Canada ... and now all of our Western Canada Guzzi riders are telling us about the kookie rednecks there that will sic a dog on us or run us down with their trucks and put it on Facebook?

That doesn't sound like much fun.

Lannis
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on July 12, 2018, 04:35:59 PM
Some folks are taking that idea to heart lately... thing is... it isn't making anything better. Plus, a lot of the folks that are taking it to heart... aren't exactly the kind of folks to be making snap judgements.
Yup, lawlessness isn't a good model for a civil society.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: TimmyTheHog on July 12, 2018, 04:38:06 PM
All the good things I've heard about riding in Canada ... and now all of our Western Canada Guzzi riders are telling us about the kookie rednecks there that will sic a dog on us or run us down with their trucks and put it on Facebook?

That doesn't sound like much fun.

Lannis

Stay on the East Side of the Rockie then you should be fine... :thumb:

It is the West side that has gone a bit kookoo   :drool:
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: JeffOlson on July 12, 2018, 04:39:33 PM
And here I thought Canada was generally safe, civil, and polite. My wife and I have even been thinking it would be fun to move there. What the heck is happening up north?
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Lannis on July 12, 2018, 04:42:31 PM
Stay on the East Side of the Rockie then you should be fine... :thumb:

It is the West side that has gone a bit kookoo   :drool:

I got a better idea ... I'll just stay on the south side of the 49th parallel.   At least I won't get surprised!

Lannis
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: John A on July 12, 2018, 10:19:49 PM
I got a better idea ... I'll just stay on the south side of the 49th parallel.   At least I won't get surprised!

Lannis



You're forgetting rural Arkansas  :boxing:
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: wavedog on July 13, 2018, 05:40:58 AM
It is life and stuff happens. Over the years in my riding experience there have been a few instances where I have been the random and unlucky target of someones idea of fun. Spit, coffee, bottles, cans, small bags of trash even automobiles aimed at me while I was riding. During the 70's and early 80's there were a few pranksters that thought it was funny to point a firearm at a motorcyclist. Ha Ha those guys are such jokers. Right.
 Being non-confrontational, my philosophy (reinforced at a young age by my revered Aikido instructor) is to run away. He who runs away lives another day. A twist of the wrist and I am gone. Problem over. It is a beautiful day ahead of me.
 However, I still have some inner conflict as occasionally my military training kicks in and I was taught to run towards trouble. The good thing is I am older and weak and a coward so now I just ride off and away and forget about it.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: yogidozer on July 13, 2018, 06:07:24 AM
It is life and stuff happens. Over the years in my riding experience there have been a few instances where I have been the random and unlucky target of someones idea of fun. Spit, coffee, bottles, cans, small bags of trash even automobiles aimed at me while I was riding. During the 70's and early 80's there were a few pranksters that thought it was funny to point a firearm at a motorcyclist. Ha Ha those guys are such jokers. Right.
 Being non-confrontational, my philosophy (reinforced at a young age by my revered Aikido instructor) is to run away. He who runs away lives another day. A twist of the wrist and I am gone. Problem over. It is a beautiful day ahead of me.
 However, I still have some inner conflict as occasionally my military training kicks in and I was taught to run towards trouble. The good thing is I am older and weak and a coward so now I just ride off and away and forget about it.
No, I would say you are smarter and more experienced.
All the truck has to do is ram you, crash you or worse. Then he would say "The crazy motorcycles was speeding out of control"
Definitely report the gun, or any threat a driver shows you.
Walking down the street would be a different situation, a bike vs. car/truck is different.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Mr Pootle on July 13, 2018, 07:57:18 AM
Really?  Ok then.  I wasn't "dreaming", I was just asking a question.   Regardless of whether there's a truck involved, one person spitting on another is still pretty bad.

Lannis
Could he simply have been spitting out of his window, without taking you into account, and got you inadvertently?
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Lannis on July 13, 2018, 08:14:45 AM
Could he simply have been spitting out of his window, without taking you into account, and got you inadvertently?

Well, I wasn't there, but the OP's implication:

"A Tundra driver came up fast behind me, so I got over to the right and slowed down to let him pass. Once he had passed me, I pulled over into the fast lane again and resumed my previous speed. That is when he rolled down his window and spit while watching me in his mirror...."


was certainly that it was "on purpose".   Who knows?

Lannis
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Toecutter on July 13, 2018, 08:26:50 AM
All the good things I've heard about riding in Canada ... and now all of our Western Canada Guzzi riders are telling us about the kookie rednecks there that will sic a dog on us or run us down with their trucks and put it on Facebook?

That doesn't sound like much fun.

Lannis

A couple things to clarify... my comment re: rural crime, is just that. There's an upsurge in rural crime out this way, involving thefts mostly, though not "only", and not enough police to do much about it. This is resulting in some folks taking a "well, I  guess I'm on my own" approach to property protection. We're talking "in the sticks". As for "Mr Attackdog Hangingcorpse", he's a nutjob. They exist in all parts of the world, usually in isiolated places, where they get to exist in an echochamber of paranoia and fear.

Doesn't mean someone is going to shoot you for riding down the highway. Most of the areas experiencing spikes in rural crime are not the types of places any of you are going to head to explore the country... they're grid roads, farm roads, the kind of roads you only drive down if you must,.

 Threads like this call for people to tell the most dramatic and interesting stories they can... so you end up with a thread full of dramatic tales.

Long and short of it is... it's not that bad. And it's a beautiful part of the world. Well worth exploring.

Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Lannis on July 13, 2018, 08:34:06 AM

Plus, in the places where this sort of thing is an issue... you probably wouldn't be riding anyways. Threads like this call for people to tell the most dramatic and interesting stories they can... so you end up with a thread full of dramatic tales.


I know.   I guess I was just getting over the shock of hearing someone, ANYONE, speak of any aspect of Canada as anything but tremendously superior to their neighbor to the South. 

Plenty of places within bike range of home here where I'd coast as far as I could go if my bike broke down.


Long and short of it is... it's not that bad.


Well, there goes your opportunity to become a slogan writer for the Alberta Board of Tourism.

"Alberta - It's Not As Bad As You Think!"   :wink:

Lannis
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Toecutter on July 13, 2018, 08:59:46 AM
I know.   I guess I was just getting over the shock of hearing someone, ANYONE, speak of any aspect of Canada as anything but tremendously superior to their neighbor to the South. 

Plenty of places within bike range of home here where I'd coast as far as I could go if my bike broke down.

Well, there goes your opportunity to become a slogan writer for the Alberta Board of Tourism.

"Alberta - It's Not As Bad As You Think!"   :wink:

Lannis

Well, I submitted:

Alberta: We're in debt up to our eyeballs!

Saskatchewan: Watch yer shit!


...but they got turned down, can't imagine why.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Muzz on July 13, 2018, 07:03:53 PM
I have had an orange thrown at me while riding my pushbike. Hit my helmet and stunned me for a bit. I was doing about 26km/hr in city traffic and keeping up with it. By the time I recovered (still upright) I could see a group of young idiots hanging out of the car windows laughing. If I had swerved and gone down the car behind would have been unable to miss me.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: oldbike54 on July 13, 2018, 08:09:31 PM
 Muzz ,

 At about 16 a couple of younger kids who lived in my Grandparents neighborhood launched a large stick at me as I was riding by on an old Triumph . It sort of glanced off my chest and stunned me a bit. The outcome was a bit different ...for them  :evil:

 Dusty
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: guzzi4me on July 13, 2018, 08:40:23 PM
Muzz ,

 At about 16 a couple of younger kids who lived in my Grandparents neighborhood launched a large stick at me as I was riding by on an old Triumph . It sort of glanced off my chest and stunned me a bit. The outcome was a bit different ...for them  :evil:

 Dusty

Ooohhhhh...

Do tell!!!!

Jeff
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: oldbike54 on July 13, 2018, 09:22:10 PM
Ooohhhhh...

Do tell!!!!

Jeff

 OK . In my youth I was a very fast little bugger , and these two geniuses decided that splitting up wasn't wise , so they took off running in the same direction . Now there were no houses behind Grandad's place , just an alley , some woods , and a creek . Now you might think that these two twelve year old kids would have been aware of that , but apparently they weren't , or they thought they were gonna outrun me . They did have a 100 foot lead , which evaporated about 5 feet from the creek . Now by now their mamma was yelling at us , so I pulled up , as she looked pretty upset, but these two junior Einsteins ended up going head long down a 4' creek bank , and the face first into about 6" of water and mud . The really funny part was when the enormous Snapping Turtle (and I do mean enormous , about 2' across and 3' long) who was hanging out just down the creek at a small concrete spillway waiting for dinner decided that one of the boys was looking pretty tasty and came at an amazing speed for a Turtle to check the situation out . His big old ferocious looking snout was open and he had a determined look in his eyes . So now I'm laughing , and mamma is still yelling , and the two boys , being the smart types , are wallowing in the mud attempting to escape from Jaws . Finally they figured out to jump out of the creek bottom to escape the big green beastie, who after all , could really only move about so fast .

 In the end it all worked out , I told mamma what had happened , she asked the two worse for wear boys if that was true , they both sheepishly said "yes mamma" . She asked if I was alright , which I was except for the pain in my sides from laughing , and we all went on about our day .

 Dusty
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: John A on July 14, 2018, 12:00:31 PM
now That is a good story! When I was stationed at Barksdale in Louisiana there was a contest at someplace in Shreveport to bring in the biggest snapping turtle. My drinking buddy Dan swiped the winner out of the pool it was in late one night. He said he carried it by the tail and dropped it once before he got it in the back of his pickup. the next day he called me to help him butcher this thing, it was tearing down his shed and he liked turtle. It was huge, about 200 pounds and was angry and a dinosaur. Ill look for the pictures and scan them, its unbelievable. it didn't taste too bad but it was tougher than dog no matter how I cooked it but I wasn't much of a turtle cook back then. I think those kids were scared shitless, I've seen them things bite stuff and its a sight to remember.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Bill Owens on July 14, 2018, 10:40:48 PM
Many years ago, a good buddy of mine had an interesting encounter. First you have to picture him. Today if you saw him from 20 Ft. away he would look like a 5'6" stocky Jay Leno. Back 35 or 40 years, jet black hair in a braid almost to his waist, maybe 180 pounds,no fat, full beard, a BSA guy, nicest guy you would ever meet.He is driving to work in a 2 stroke Saab on a short ride on interstate. On the single lane off ramp this guy passes him on the right. He is like WTF, and continues to work. Next day, same exit ramp, my buddy looks in his rear view and no sheet, here this guy comes again and vrooms right by again. Now we have a pursuit until the first stoplight in town. My friend gets out and walks up to this guys door who saw him coming and had locked his door. My friend grabs his windshield wiper and put a good 90 degree bend in it , looked the guy right in the eye , cocked his head and gave a nice grin, and sauntered back to his car, light turned green and everyone went to work.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Scott of the Sahara on July 14, 2018, 10:41:39 PM
I am glad you are OK. That could have been alot worse. You are smart to stay in control of yourself.
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on July 15, 2018, 06:43:38 AM
yall are a bunch of saints, I would have fallen way back and followed incognito until he made his exit and then he'd be in for quite a surprise at the next light he was stuck at, or his destination
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Lannis on July 15, 2018, 06:53:58 AM
yall are a bunch of saints, I would have fallen way back and followed incognito until he made his exit and then he'd be in for quite a surprise at the next light he was stuck at, or his destination

I think where we're getting off base is in equating "Dealing with aggression and bullying" and "Being out of control and stupid".

You can accomplish the first without the second, and if more people did, there would be less of the first.

Lannis
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on July 15, 2018, 06:56:51 AM
I think where we're getting off base is in equating "Dealing with aggression and bullying" and "Being out of control and stupid".

You can accomplish the first without the second, and if more people did, there would be less of the first.

Lannis

I never lose control or get stupid....  Now spitting on another man, a stranger unknown to you...  THATS stupid
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: JeffOlson on July 15, 2018, 10:38:52 AM
^ Yes, the trucker was stupid, but he could have driven me off the road or shot me dead if I had responded in kind. So, instead, in effect, I turned the other cheek, went on my way, and lived to ride another day.

Now, if my wife and I had been walking down the sidewalk or sitting in a restaurant and he spit on my wife, I would indeed have responded, physically and not just with words (and probably ended up injured, dead, or in jail).
Title: Re: He Spit on Me!
Post by: John A on July 15, 2018, 10:55:49 AM
You did the right thing and some small part of his brain should recognize that he is an arse. things can spiral so fast if a guy chooses to react. Never let 'em see you coming if you think you can apply some corrective consequences. 99.9% you'll never see them again