Wildguzzi.com
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dimples on July 18, 2018, 12:37:53 PM
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I almost missed this on eBay. Thought I'd post it here in case someone was looking for a NOS Guzzi!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Moto-Guzzi-850-T5/323354796281?hash=item4b4972a0f9:g:iIoAAOSwYF9bTohy&vxp=mtr
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The SCAM radiation pouring off of that listing almost gave me a sunburn through my computer ...
Lannis
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Ya think it’s fake 👞
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So, do you suppose the guy's ebay account has been hacked?
9111683
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Did ya see the other stuff he has for sale......all exotic stuff
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So, do you suppose the guy's ebay account has been hacked?
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I don't know. Almost hard to trust eBay's "security" these days - some pretty bad actors get through.
"Brand new in the crate" 850 T-5. Just a sales brochure in the "photo", not even a picture of the crate, no story of where this thing has been for 31 years. I've got crap in "crates" that's not worth hauling to the landfill (I've also got a lot of "barn fresh" junk that I've got to deal with someday).
Either a scam or the worst selling job for a nice bike in history.
Lannis
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If you Google the VIN, it brings up nothing.
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Six "Brand New bikes in the original crate"
It is a little hard to believe but not impossible.
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This 'seller' has five new rare motorcycles still in the crate for sale on Ebay
Really??
No information on the bikes,
no pictures of the crate,
nothing.
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Agreed, it sounds like scamorama.. but how is this explained?
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I don't know how scammers do something like this..
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I didn't realize that sellers can get feedback for selling AND buying. (I went and looked at some sites which talked about ebay scams)
If you follow this guy's Feedback Profile link on the 159 Stars (100% positive feedback) found in the upper right corner:
You'll see that 0 of that feedback is from selling. At least that's how I read the Feedback as a Seller tab. If you click on the Feedback as a Buyer tab, you'll see 181 entries. So all this dude's feedback is from buying not selling.
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So now the person has a few new eBay listings for "Brand New Motorcycle in Original Crate" - (several) Bimota's
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He has purchased stuff from Lamontsanfurd, orphan motors, guzzitech, and BSAnut, and those guys are legit, even if the posting is not..... Perhaps they could verify the ads, assuming anyone wanted a bike at those prices......
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none of his purchases are verified with actual items that he bought
He has NO feedback as a seller !!!!!!! :copcar:
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Does he have a Paypal account I can send a downpayment to???
:grin:
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Send it to me...contact and overseas bank account info coming....look for a PM shortly! :evil:
Does he have a Paypal account I can send a downpayment to???
:grin:
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I emailed the guy, told him my "Italian Bike Enthusiast" buddies had trouble believeing the ads were the real deal. I asked for more photos......cricket s.... :grin:
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I asked the seller if he could any addl info, or pic of the crate; I said there wasn't enough in his description to warrant bidding on it, after 4 days still no response.
If one was planning a scam, why pick an 850 T5?
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I have a Genuine Hawkin's bear rifle. It is a good rifle and kilt the bear that kilt me. Anyway, I am dead.
Highest bidder. Yours truly, Hatchet Jack.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/gR3Wio/Jeremiah_Johnson_jpg.png) (https://ibb.co/gR3Wio)
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Ha - Ha! Made 'ya click!!
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The Bimota YB6 Tuatara he has for sale is using photos of the same bike that is listed in Sheffield, UK.
https://motorcycles-for-sale.biz/sale.php?id=45071 (https://motorcycles-for-sale.biz/sale.php?id=45071)
And the photo of the Bimota Virginio Ferrari is from the Bimota Spirit website. Not to mention that the original YB4-R uses an FZ750 motor, not a 1000cc one.
https://www.bimotaspirit.com/bimota-yb4r-ferrari (https://www.bimotaspirit.com/bimota-yb4r-ferrari)
So, yeah, I'd say fraudulent postings.
jdg
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Agreed, it sounds like scamorama.. but how is this explained?
I don't know how scammers do something like this..
Don't know either, but they can spoof eBay and eBay can't do anything about it, apparently.
Don't believe anything you hear OR anything you see!
Lannis
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About 23+/- years ago. A houston auto auction bought approximately 25 Crated Triumph's from the 50's thru late 70's.
The owner of the auto auction had a ridiculous motorcycle collection. He had at least 100 bikes on site. English , japanese , Italian etc. I was looking at a Honda 305. He told me he bought the whole collection for 3 bikes. He paid about $40K for the collection. Stubbs Harley/Honda/Suzuki had an XR1000 and A Suz 750 Water Buffalo in crates up to 10 years ago. It doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibility.
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I asked to see actual pictures of the bike in the crate. Lets see if he responds.
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I highly doubt it, but. Maybe he's an eccentric weirdo, and really has the bike, but just doesn't play well with others?
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Saw this in crate bike in Warm Springs, GA in 2013. I heard the owner of this museum sold everything and closed. He had a lot of collectible motorcycles. Even a Moto Guzzi or two.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/b0oUM8/PICT0120.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b0oUM8)
(https://thumb.ibb.co/dSB5uT/PICT0118.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dSB5uT)
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About 23+/- years ago. A houston auto auction bought approximately 25 Crated Triumph's from the 50's thru late 70's.
The owner of the auto auction had a ridiculous motorcycle collection. He had at least 100 bikes on site. English , japanese , Italian etc. I was looking at a Honda 305. He told me he bought the whole collection for 3 bikes. He paid about $40K for the collection. Stubbs Harley/Honda/Suzuki had an XR1000 and A Suz 750 Water Buffalo in crates up to 10 years ago. It doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibility.
There are some real eccentric collectors in the world, like the ones you describe AND
Anything's possible BUT
The balance of probability, and how you should bet your hard earned money here says ....
SCAM!
Lannis
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Pretty good deal here in GA
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mcy/d/2014-moto-guzzi-california/6644892973.html
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Pretty good deal here in GA
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mcy/d/2014-moto-guzzi-california/6644892973.html
That is probably a scam too.
It is also listed in Indiana for the same price.
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Pretty good deal here in GA
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mcy/d/2014-moto-guzzi-california/6644892973.html
Same bike in Iowa!
https://dubuque.craigslist.org/mcy/d/2014-moto-guzzi-california/6647554858.html
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That is probably a scam too.
It is also listed in Indiana for the same price.
Yeah, that one's been making the rounds all across the country.
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Pretty good deal here in GA
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mcy/d/2014-moto-guzzi-california/6644892973.html
At that price all we should hear is doors slamming as people run out of their homes to buy it!!!! Has to be a SCAM
Tim
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same bike in Ohio and many other places - you would think that it would have sold by now :bike-037:
Mark
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That is probably a scam too.
It is also listed in Indiana for the same price.
That ad is in every state right now. I had a thread about it
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The CL scammers have "I proved" their ad copy recently, compared to a few years ago. Before, it was very easy to spot the scam, as the text would be almost illegible, and the price would be so far off, it would be obvious.
Today, there are so many more CL scam ads, and they are almost legit looking. Be careful when responding, if it doesn't sound right, it probably is a scam.