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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: adhonores on July 18, 2018, 01:12:36 PM
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Few mods for stance, confort and look..
- knight Design Peg lowering kit
- GuzziTech bar risers
- GuzziTech fender eliminator kit
- TKC-80 rubber ;)
- some chiness headlight grill
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I'm beginning to think that the Griso is the "do it all" Guzzi.. :thumb:
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If you're covering gravel with that bike, then I can see this makes a lot of sense. But for when acting as an aggressive road bike, don't those tires really change the handling? Seems tragic to compromise road manners of a bike like this.
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Welcome to WG.. and yes, the Grease O can do it all. :smiley: That would certainly go down fire roads, etc. On road? Uhh.. carefully. :wink:
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I like it all except the tires. Knobbies to make a street bike look "gnarly" is sort of played ... and it'll just have to slow down on pavement.
On the other hand, nothing like building a bike to fit your desire, comfort, and image you want .... Done it many a time!
Lannis
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I had dual bikes (tiger) mounted on TKC-80 prior to her... im kind a used to that grip... and to answer some comments regarding her usage, I do 50/50 gravel and route and no, i will not corner hard with her.
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I had dual bikes (tiger) mounted on TKC-80 prior to her... im kind a used to that grip... and to answer some comments regarding her usage, I do 50/50 gravel and route and no, i will not corner hard with her
Makes a lot of sense then. And it's a beauty.
and there's precedence for taking a road eater and making it more..adaptable.
(https://i.imgur.com/lnWb3Gi.jpg)
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Yeah, ride almost everywhere... with style ;)
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Nice,
I fitted my Griso out with the Knight Design lowering pegs
Heidenau K73 rubber, not as aggressive as yours
10 Liters of extra fuel capacity
I couldn't find a headlight protector so I made one from Lexan, dished it with my hot air gun
Rubber mat to protect the sump.
After 1000km of rough gravel the rear shock is just a pogo stick LOL
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Love the GTV!
If you want great street grip / trail tire, try Pirelli MT60RS. I had them on my KTM supermoto years ago. They allow for severe lean angles and great grip.
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Makes a lot of sense then. And it's a beauty.
and there's precedence for taking a road eater and making it more..adaptable.
(https://i.imgur.com/lnWb3Gi.jpg)
This thing is so cool I might even trade my Citroen for it. Nice job
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I'm beginning to think that the Griso is the "do it all" Guzzi.. :thumb:
Yeah pretty versatile for sure.
Just not sure about 2 deg C for a week and a half every day, might find her out just a bit...
So can we say " just about everything.."?
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With it's low seat height, wide bars and lack of plastic the Griso isn't too bad for a bit of rough terrain but to call it an all rounder would be stretching the concept a bit far.
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Few mods for stance, confort and look..
- knight Design Peg lowering kit
- GuzziTech bar risers
- GuzziTech fender eliminator kit
- TKC-80 rubber ;)
- some chiness headlight grill
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180718/53a45f2f6de0d884ff761724bdf88592.png)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180718/74bb6d46eee277f0d13970eef18c6be6.png)
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Nice!
Only missing piece is a nice Agostini pipe...
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Nope, knobbies on Griso just doesn't work. The Griso is 100% thoroughbred street bike.
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Nope, knobbies on Griso just doesn't work. The Griso is 100% thoroughbred street bike.
A bike is 100% whatever the owner wishes it to be.
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A bike is 100% whatever the owner wishes it to be.
Well, sort of. You can put knobby tires on your street bike and WISH that it can be run on pavement just as fast as it ever could, and WISH that you can keep up with your buddies on track days just like you used to.
But you can't really, in the non-wishing world ....
Lannis
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To each his own! Welcome aboard!
I prefer a "real" woods bike, but that's just me :wink:
(https://thumb.ibb.co/mYEajJ/KTM_002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mYEajJ)
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It will go off road, or on road, but will do neither well.
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How many of us really use all our street tires potential?
Street reviews by "canyonchasers" testers were extremely positive. Better than I would have ever thought.
Quote:"Now time for the true asphalt test. How would these tires behave on a fast mountain road? As we made our way up Big Cottonwood Canyon we were immediately delighted by the stability and confidence offered by these tires. And as we reached Wolf Creek Pass, we were running just a few mph’s slower than we would otherwise travel"
Sure, there are always a better tire for specific road conditions, but these seem very capable.
...and probably only a 3~4k mile commitment :boozing:
AND they look CRAZY, :thumb:
(https://thumb.ibb.co/bO3FJd/74bb6d46eee277f0d13970eef18c6be6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bO3FJd)
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I agree that that aggressive knobbies on a street bike doesn't make any sense. I also agree that the owner of any bike can do as they please with their own bikes [emoji4]
A couple of weeks ago I was in Switzerland and took the Klausen pass on one of my friends KTM 950 with aggressive knobbies and we did not have to go slow by any means! No more chicken strip on these tires! So it doesn't mean that knobbies can't work on road, but it is a very different riding stile, and the KTM is setup to run with these tires so it probably do it better than a street bike would.
Still if I had a griso I would have put some proper street tires or if it absolutely had to be something that can cope with gravel roads I would have picked something like a trail attack which have a strong road bias.
Anyway enjoy your bike and post some pictures of it in action on the gravel! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180720/236fa05a6d49cf3e2a5932a206841683.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180720/22ae92396660c37f04ce2ddf488ed7aa.jpg)
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I've run TKC80s on my R80G/S and the R100GS. I ride year round and had no problem in the rain or at speed on twisty mountain roads. I definitely wasn't the slowest in the pack, and the rest wore street tires. Only trouble with the TKC80 is the rear wears out so fast - the front lasts a long time but not the rear.
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Uh, no. I know the kids love the scrambler look, but, turning a Griso into a scrambler turns a killer road burner into a cafe posing tool. The knobbies are just No for any kind of serious road work.
And a Stelvio beats it *to* *death* on dirt.
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I like it! Good job! :bow:
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I too like the aesthetic of chunky tires. Mind you, there's not much you can't do on an old Brit bike (or a Guzzi for that matter) with street tires if you've a mind to.
Nick
(https://thumb.ibb.co/kfmopJ/britbikes.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kfmopJ)
(stolen from....you guessed it...FB)
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I don't get it but Ride Your Own Ride
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Few mods for stance, confort and look..
- knight Design Peg lowering kit
- GuzziTech bar risers
- GuzziTech fender eliminator kit
- TKC-80 rubber ;)
- some chiness headlight grill
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180718/53a45f2f6de0d884ff761724bdf88592.png)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180718/74bb6d46eee277f0d13970eef18c6be6.png)
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I know this is an old thread, but where did you get the head light grill? Thanks
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As an aside, I have to ask, rhetorically, how it is possible that a live-axle car like the GTV (to the extent that the live-axle is KEPT in this "make-over") - how come it's not visible in the photo (i.e. the axle tube)?
Photoshopped?
Or, some kind of AM General / Hummer (original) reduction gear set-up at ea. rear wheel (to gain road-clearance)?
(https://i.ibb.co/nnfbCW4/A-Travesty.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nnfbCW4)
safety pictures (https://imgbb.com/)
(Sorry for the naming of the photo; however nicely done it was, it pains me, as the GTV is one of my all-time Favorites.
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Well I like it a lot
I took my Griso to the Arctic Circle two years back, 8000 km round trip
Instead of a bash plate I wrapped a 1/2" strip of rubber around the sump to bounce the stones off
A Lexan rock stopper over the headlight
Set of semi knobbly rubber.
Rear Hugger
Knight Design lower pegs
A 5 Litre gas can on each of the passenger pegs
It survived the Dempster Highway all right but the Top of the World Highway from Dawson City to Chicken got the better of the rear shock and it spat out all the oil.
I had it refurbished when I got back by Rod Matechuk of RMR Suspension
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Few mods for stance, confort and look..
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You can't kill the mighty GRiSO!
Even this thread came back to life!!
P.S. Add a set of guards to complete the look.
And nothing here can't be undone after a season of tomfoolery :boozing:
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The OP hasn't been active on WG in over a year , you might try sending him a PM .
Dusty
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I know the op hasn’t been active but I like the look of his Griso.
Ride what you like, like what you ride!
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Taking a street bike and spooning on some knobbies, along with some off road guards and stuff, might look cool but...
Bombing down gravel roads and such are mostly about suspension. Something my Griso isn't suited for. Not saying you can't do it, but not the best tool.
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My Griso is very stable running down gravel roads (with street tires), which some bikes are not. Also its lower center of gravity will make it less of chore if I have to pick it up someday due to a mistake. (Thinking here of a recent "Black Rhino" Stelvio report.) Finally, it's a great bike for going places far away, and then riding around on whatever roads are available. It's an all-rounder, in my book.
I have a lower center of gravity too.
Moto
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I know the op hasn’t been active but I like the look of his Griso.
Ride what you like, like what you ride!
Someone asked the OP a question , I was simply suggesting it is unlikely the OP would see it .
Dusty
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I'm beginning to think that the Griso is the "do it all" Guzzi.. :thumb:
Nah!
You're thinking of a Stelvio, one that's slightly lowered, and fitted with Griso Wheels . . .
(https://i.ibb.co/9rRtPVT/Right-Side.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9rRtPVT)
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You can ride a motorcycle just about anywhere, but the Griso is NOT an ADV bike. This is a styling exercise.
We've all found ourselves on dirt and gravel roads, and due to it's overall feel and control, of course the Griso can handle it, but the suspension is NOT up to the task, or in anyway ideal for meaningful riding on dirt and gravel roads, as it reminded me of this just this afternoon. I'd say other than my 79XS11, the Griso is one of the worst I've owned for grave/dirt rough roads. The Norge with a more compliant suspension was much nicer, balanced and stable. The Griso is very unhappy. But for many today, it's all about the look.
My surprise find while wandering today.
(https://i.ibb.co/cFk21F8/IMG-20200112-133343018.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cFk21F8)
(https://i.ibb.co/1bJh9Hs/IMG-20200112-133331680.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1bJh9Hs)
A couple years back on Vancouver island.... If you want to see the Island, you gotta get of the hardtop.... Norge handled it very well on the stock Angel ST tires, though I did have to borrow a hose a few times to hose out the oil cooler. The local law was watching for me, and kept telling me I was crazy. Turned out the exposure worked to my benifit, as when I did get back on the pavement and needed to make up some time I got out of a ticket and what should have been a 'go to jail' speed violation ;-) Well, that and the grace of God....
(https://i.ibb.co/TKsq22w/DSCN1402.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TKsq22w)
(https://i.ibb.co/yPNGYqh/IMG-20160903-142228432.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yPNGYqh)
(https://i.ibb.co/vB5QjDZ/DSCN1411.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vB5QjDZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/64m1sWv/DSCN1419.jpg) (https://ibb.co/64m1sWv)
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You can ride a motorcycle just about anywhere, but the Griso is NOT an ADV bike. This is a styling exercise.
We've all found ourselves on dirt and gravel roads, and due to it's overall feel and control, of course the Griso can handle it, but the suspension is NOT up to the task, or in anyway ideal for meaningful riding on dirt and gravel roads....
I don't think anyone said the Griso is an "ADV bike." I wouldn't ride a bike called that, anyway. I said the Griso is an all-rounder, what you might think of as a "standard" (or not, not knowing you).
As for "meaningful riding on dirt and gravel roads," what in the heck is that supposed to be? Meaningfulness does not come from suspension travel, it comes within, Pilgrim.
I don't need a special-purpose motorcycle to go on gravel roads, or to go on them in a "meaningful" way. Grisos go well enough on gravel for me.
Moto
P.S. I resent you seeming to suggest I like my Griso only for its looks. Maybe you meant everybody but me, I don't know. But you don't know me.
M.
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I don't think anyone said the Griso is an "ADV bike." I wouldn't ride a bike called that, anyway. I said the Griso is an all-rounder, what you might think of as a "standard" (or not, not knowing you).
As for "meaningful riding on dirt and gravel roads," what in the heck is that supposed to be? Meaningfulness does not come from suspension travel, it comes within, Pilgrim.
I don't need a special-purpose motorcycle to go on gravel roads, or to go on them in a "meaningful" way. Grisos go well enough on gravel for me.
Moto
P.S. I resent you seeming to suggest I like my Griso only for its looks. Maybe you meant everybody but me, I don't know. But you don't know me.
M.
I don't think that's how it was meant bud , seems maybe he meant the OP's Griso is a styling exercise .
The fact is that most motorbikes can be ridden on a gravel road , albeit at a slower pace than a 220 LB dedicated off road bike . The original R 80 GS was inspired by a modified /6 R75 built by an Okie who decided he wanted to ride to Alaska with his friend . Yes , the two Okies who inspired the Dust to Dawson NAR helped start the whole thing . Most of this is lost to history , but most of us Okies know the story .
Dusty
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Easy there...... Need a tissue?
Glad you like your bike, enjoy it. That's all that matters. And YES, many bikes are styling exercises these days.
I don't think anyone said the Griso is an "ADV bike." I wouldn't ride a bike called that, anyway. I said the Griso is an all-rounder, what you might think of as a "standard" (or not, not knowing you).
As for "meaningful riding on dirt and gravel roads," what in the heck is that supposed to be? Meaningfulness does not come from suspension travel, it comes within, Pilgrim.
I don't need a special-purpose motorcycle to go on gravel roads, or to go on them in a "meaningful" way. Grisos go well enough on gravel for me.
Moto
P.S. I resent you seeming to suggest I like my Griso only for its looks. Maybe you meant everybody but me, I don't know. But you don't know me.
M.
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Easy there...... Need a tissue?
Glad you like your bike, enjoy it. That's all that matters. And YES, many bikes are styling exercises these days.
Hate to break it to you , but motorbikes have always been styling exercises .
Dusty
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No doubt motorcycles have always been styling exercises.
I don't need a tissue. I need less pontificating from ADV riders.
Moto
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The original R 80 GS was inspired by a modified /6 R75 built by an Okie who decided he wanted to ride to Alaska with his friend . Yes , the two Okies who inspired the Dust to Dawson NAR helped start the whole thing .
Dusty
With all due respect, Dusty, the "whole thing" existed long before the BMW R80 GS. No body needed one of those to have great adventures off road.
Unless by "the whole thing" you meant the "ADV bike" cult, in which case I suppose I'd agree with you. But to me, ADV riders and bikes are not the whole thing, or even part of the whole thing.
M.
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With all due respect, Dusty, the "whole thing" existed long before the BMW R80 GS. No body needed one of those to have great adventures off road.
Unless by "the whole thing" you meant the "ADV bike" cult, in which case I suppose I'd agree with you. But to me, ADV riders and bikes are not the whole thing, or even part of the whole thing.
M.
I was simply referring to the factory built ADV style bike . Yes , there were bikes like the DT Yamahas , and even before that the C model Triumphs, or heck , there were Mustangs with high pipes :laugh:
Dusty
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The original R 80 GS was inspired by a modified /6 R75 built by an Okie who decided he wanted to ride to Alaska with his friend . Yes , the two Okies who inspired the Dust to Dawson NAR helped start the whole thing . Most of this is lost to history , but most of us Okies know the story .
Dusty
I would like to know more details of the story.
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I would like to know more details of the story.
We called the guy Ca$h Register , he was originally from Stidham . Sometime around 1978 he took his R 75 and copied the ISDT bikes that BMW had been building and built a bike to take an Alaska trip on . Some of the details are lost to history , but either on the way up or on his way back he was in the PNW and encountered some executive from BMW . His buddy Jim Coleman told me some of the story years ago , sadly Jim was killed somewhere near Dell City in the mid 90's . Oddly enough , Ca$h had survived a really bad heart attack some years before , hell , he may still be alive , haven't seen him in over 20 years .
Dusty
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It defies all logic, with the weight slower steering and longer? wheelbase, but the first week I was out on my Griso, I took it for a slow tour down some ATV trails and felt quite comfortable. I turned back relatively easily, when I got to a small creek, that I'm sure I could have crossed, but I just didn't want to get mud on my new to me bike.
I think it was only a few days later, I read of KiwiRoy's expedition on his Griso up the Alaskan/Dempster? Highway and I realized I wasn't crazy after all ,lol.
Last summer I took the Griso up the steep loose rough gravel road to the Historic Stone Fence site on the top of one of the mountains, close to Foymount (the highest civilized point in Ontario). Coming down the mountain using the Griso rear brake, felt quite composed :thumb:
Kelly
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^^^Kelly , are there uncivilized points that are higher in Ontario ? :huh:
Dusty
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Very cool!!
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I rode my 1970 R75/5 with the 6.3 gallon tank and a plywood top box all over the gravel roads of Colo in the early 70's You could almost call it an early adventure bike too. I only used Dunlop K70 tires so I guess I wasn't quite there. :grin:
kk
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^^^Kelly , are there uncivilized points that are higher in Ontario ? :huh:
Dusty
Hey Dusty, Yes I think there are 1-2-3? other points that are higher, but no body living in the area;
There used to be some type of military communications base in Foymount, it's been shut down for long time, basically a ghost town now, but amazing riding in the area.
Just as a point of interest you guys in the US would appreciate, Al Capone had one of his favorite famous hideouts built in the area close by on the LetterKenny Rd 10-20 miles due south from there as the crow flies down near Quadville.
Kelly
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Be careful this thread will evolve into how the Griso will blow up at any minute, don't ride it, don't even look at it!
Not being an off road guy, so my opinion is not worth much, but I think the Griso is a good road bike and not an off road bike...
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Hey Dusty, Yes I think there are 1-2-3? other points that are higher, but no body living in the area;
There used to be some type of military communications base in Foymount, it's been shut down for long time, basically a ghost town now, but amazing riding in the area.
Just as a point of interest you guys in the US would appreciate, Al Capone had one of his favorite famous hideouts built in the area close by on the LetterKenny Rd 10-20 miles due south from there as the crow flies down near Quadville.
Kelly
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Is there a Canadian regulation that states civilization ends above a certain altitude ? :grin:
Dusty
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Disclaimer: I DON'T like scrambler bikes. Can't stand them.
Comment: Your work is very well done, congratulations and hope you enjoy your bike :thumb:
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As an aside, I have to ask, rhetorically, how it is possible that a live-axle car like the GTV (to the extent that the live-axle is KEPT in this "make-over") - how come it's not visible in the photo (i.e. the axle tube)?
Photoshopped?
Or, some kind of AM General / Hummer (original) reduction gear set-up at ea. rear wheel (to gain road-clearance)?
(https://i.ibb.co/nnfbCW4/A-Travesty.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nnfbCW4)
safety pictures (https://imgbb.com/)
(Sorry for the naming of the photo; however nicely done it was, it pains me, as the GTV is one of my all-time Favorites.
not photoshopped. Here are a couple of articles with a bit of an explanation and many more photos.
https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/road-alfa-romeo-gtv-ready-anything
https://jalopnik.com/this-alfa-was-dropped-by-a-tow-truck-and-then-it-became-1820805337