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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Guzzistajohn on September 04, 2018, 05:09:09 PM
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https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/scout-motorcycles/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social-paid&utm_content=us_interest_social&utm_term=my19bobber_motorcycleinterest&utm_campaign=Polaris
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The only two sales features talked about are A B S and a usb port! Pretty sad!
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https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/scout-motorcycles/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social-paid&utm_content=us_interest_social&utm_term=my19bobber_motorcycleinterest&utm_campaign=Polaris
Really!
You would need to change your sign in name to TONTO :)
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I don't want a bike that looks like all the rest, don't forget the dew rag.
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They would look better if only the radiator was more gigantic. Also needs a fatter front tire.
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I like it. But it doesn't look like the seating position will work for me at 6' 2".
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The only two sales features talked about are A B S and a usb port! Pretty sad!
What an odd position.
The only two NEW features are...
That doesn't mean they are the only features. But I mean if you compared say a 2013 V7 to a 2014 there were no differences right? (Other than color). Or a 2014 to 2015 then the only difference was reduced charging capacity right?
What exactly did they need to do differently for this year's Scout lineup?
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Rode one. Very nice powertrain and front end. The seating position left a lot to be desired, but, hey-you knew that going into it.
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I have always liked the way the Scout motor looked
one of the best looking American offerings as far as i am concerned
too bad they don't have a sporty frame to sick the motor in.
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The only two sales features talked about are A B S and a usb port! Pretty sad!
Not true , the blurb mentioned *chrome* also :grin:
Hell fellas , car companies run high dollar TV ads touting a model's features , and never once mention anything about the actual things that make an automobile work . Ya gotta hook a potential customer with *features* :shocked:
Dusty
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They would look better if only the radiator was more gigantic. Also needs a fatter front tire.
That was my take on it as well....
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Can't seem to find that :hurl: emoticon..
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That was my take on it as well....
Have you guys seen it in person
Aesthetically I didn't like the radiator (and generally don't on most bikes) till I stood over one. They sit low so the real life perspective is usually different from press and other stylized photos. I was pleasantly surprised to see the thing isn't as distracting in person.
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I'd be interested if a more sporty version was available. I just can't deal with the foreward controls. The motor is really nice. And I prefer to be known as Two Dogs, Mike :thumb:
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I like the Scout. I like the look. I like the numbers on paper.
I dislike the teeny tiny tank, and I HATE the ergos. So damn uncomfortable... to me.
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I'd be interested if a more sporty version was available. I just can't deal with the foreward controls. The motor is really nice. And I prefer to be known as Two Dogs, Mike :thumb:
See the FTR thread.
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Hey I am two dogs but you can be to, the scout does nothing for me either :boozing:
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Looks like they copied Yamaha but with fatter front tire. I'll pass.
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Looks like they copied Yamaha but with fatter front tire. I'll pass.
What Yamaha did Indian/Polaris "copy" here?
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Nobody in that ad is looking straight ahead. Oh, except for the first picture but their bikes seem to be wobbling about..... tell you something about the Scout? :rolleyes:
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Are you all so insecure in your decision to own Moto Guzzi that you spend all your spare time cutting down other rides to make yours look like the right choice? I for one am glad there is a variety of motorcycles out there to experience. If we were only looking at motorcycles from a utilitarian standpoint none of use would be on anything bigger than 500cc UJMs.
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Are you all so insecure in your decision to own Moto Guzzi that you spend all your spare time cutting down other rides to make yours look like the right choice? I for one am glad there is a variety of motorcycles out there to experience. If we were only looking at motorcycles from a utilitarian standpoint none of use would be on anything bigger than 500cc UJMs.
Watch that... you might get accused of having had a "humorectomy" if you don't hop on board the bash-train. :evil:
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We bought a scout about 18 months ago: ABS Scout 69; really Sandy's idea more than mine. The motor is really special: broad power band, plenty of torque down low, smooth; just wish they would put it in a standard or sport-touring bike. I don't like the forward controls for a long distance ride, but it is relaxing for a short jaunt. The suspension needs plenty of help. The brakes are weak compared to those on my other bikes. We use it for 2-up rides of less than 200 miles; anything longer and we take the Norge. For 1-up local rides I use the BMW.
I like the fact that the scout is soooo different from the other bikes; actually think it looks OK, too.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/eyWSje/Sandy_on_scout.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eyWSje)
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We bought a scout about 18 months ago: ABS Scout 69; really Sandy's idea more than mine. The motor is really special: broad power band, plenty of torque down low, smooth; just wish they would put it in a standard or sport-touring bike. I don't like the forward controls for a long distance ride, but it is relaxing for a short jaunt. The suspension needs plenty of help. The brakes are weak compared to those on my other bikes. We use it for 2-up rides of less than 200 miles; anything longer and we take the Norge. For 1-up local rides I use the BMW.
I like the fact that the scout is soooo different from the other bikes; actually think it looks OK, too.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/eyWSje/Sandy_on_scout.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eyWSje)
Kinda a Jackal replacement! [emoji4]
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Kev,
Yes, it is sort of a replacement for the jackal, but the motor is much stronger. Unfortunately, it's brakes and suspension are not up to par with the motor. I think the jackal actually handled twisty roads a bit better.
Jon
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Watch that... you might get accused of having had a "humorectomy" if you don't hop on board the bash-train. :evil:
I know you think that is cute .
Dusty
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I started riding Guzzis in '73, sold the last one a year ago. Now we have 2 Scouts. They go as far on a tank at back road speeds as our EV and Jackal did, so no worries.
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Kev,
Yes, it is sort of a replacement for the jackal, but the motor is much stronger. Unfortunately, it's brakes and suspension are not up to par with the motor. I think the jackal actually handled twisty roads a bit better.
Jon
That sounds about right. Though probably more about RCHs than yards.
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Kinda a Jackal replacement! [emoji4]
My thoughts exactly. You'd think they could come up with an original design. :boozing:
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I know you think that is cute .
Dusty
Yup, kinda. Admit it, so do you.
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My thoughts exactly. You'd think they could come up with an original design. :boozing:
(https://i.imgur.com/7JU2giy.png)
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Yeah, but I never held that against Guzzi.... well except for the flacid whale penis of a tank... :evil:
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My thoughts exactly. You'd think they could come up with an original design. :boozing:
(https://i.imgur.com/7JU2giy.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/aTwrCDW.png)
Let's see , first you bob the fenders to look like a garage hack job , move the footpegs farther forward, and a few other strange things , and you too can turn a Jackal into a Scout .
Did I mention adding a bunch of hype ?
Dusty
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Let's see , first you bob the fenders to look like a garage hack job , move the footpegs farther forward, and a few other strange things , and you too can turn a Jackal into a Scout .
Dusty
That's A GOOD IDEA! That would drastically improve the looks of a Jackal!
Someone should do that.
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Oh yeah, I did.
And BlackBuell BOUGHT IT...
...and replaced it with a SCOUT... Which is what I was referring to in the first place.
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Meh :evil:
Dusty
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Yeah, but I never held that against Guzzi.... well except for the flacid whale penis of a tank... :evil:
i see what you did there :boxing:
I'll say this, I've not ridden a Scout, but when I sat on a couple, they seem really well put together. Sitting on one with my feet on the floor it was very comfortable, and for a rider who likes to ride permanently in the highway peg posture, seems like a great bike. For me, it's too low, and I'd have to learn to love diving into a turn with my feet out there. Unlike many here I think they're beautiful bikes. I just don't think it would work for me.
If I'm not mistaken the OP was throwing the whole Indian lineup out there. Saw this hack and spoke with the owner a while back. For this application I could see it, for sure. Cornering is already out the equation
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i see what you did there :boxing:
I'll say this, I've not ridden a Scout, but when I sat on a couple, they seem really well put together. Sitting on one with my feet on the floor it was very comfortable, and for a rider who likes to ride permanently in the highway peg posture, seems like a great bike. For me, it's too low, and I'd have to learn to love diving into a turn with my feet out there. Unlike many here I think they're beautiful bikes. I just don't think it would work for me.
If I'm not mistaken the OP was throwing the whole Indian lineup out there. Saw this hack and spoke with the owner a while back. For this application I could see it, for sure. Cornering is already out the equation
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I kinda like the new Kawasaki Drifters , do you have anymore pictures of one ?
Dusty
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My buddy has a new(er) Chief. Beautiful bike, and he rides the hell out of it.
Up close? Indian did a hell of a job. Fit and finish is amazing, and they knocked it out of the park with the "classic" style. Of the two... the Chief would be my choice, simply because the Scout seems to be of limited utility.
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My buddy has a new(er) Chief. Beautiful bike, and he rides the hell out of it.
Up close? Indian did a hell of a job. Fit and finish is amazing, and they knocked it out of the park with the "classic" style. Of the two... the Chief would be my choice, simply because the Scout seems to be of limited utility.
Agreed, but damnit they're sooooooo damn big. As in even bigger/heavier than the Harleys.
They tend to be about ~4" longer in wheelbase than an RK (2" more than a Cali 1400) and ~7" longer on overall length than the RK/Cali, with similar wet weights to the Harleys of same design.
But at least they're not Kawi's! (ick).
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Agreed, but damnit they're sooooooo damn big. As in even bigger/heavier than the Harleys.
They tend to be about ~4" longer in wheelbase than an RK (2" more than a Cali 1400) and ~7" longer on overall length than the RK/Cali, with similar wet weights to the Harleys of same design.
But at least they're not Kawi's! (ick).
Oh, it's huge, no doubt. But for sheer comfort and highway cruising, he absolutely loves it.
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I was asked by a Chief rider if my Scout was any good for touring. I was, at the time, 3 days into my second lap of the US on mine.
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I was asked by a Chief rider if my Scout was any good for touring. I was, at the time, 3 days into my second lap of the US on mine.
Having spent some time wandering in the U.S., I find that distances between gas are far shorter, in general, than they are in western/northern Canada. With mid-pegs, and a larger tank, the Scout would have been a solid contender for me.
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There are several mid-peg kits but I think that they won't work as well as the "short-reach" factory pegs. And we do carry spare fuel-
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There are several mid-peg kits but I think that they won't work as well as the "short-reach" factory pegs. And we do carry spare fuel-
I heard KuryAkyn recently released a mid-controls kit. Have you seen it yet? If so any thoughts?
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There are several mid-peg kits but I think that they won't work as well as the "short-reach" factory pegs. And we do carry spare fuel-
Aaron, aren't you a former Jackal owner? Did you address the pegs? Seriously the single biggest issue in my mind...
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I like the Scout and have a 2016 which at that time was less than the V7 models. I live in a medium size town and the Indian dealer also carries Moto Guzzi and (did) Motus. I ride my Guzzis more but enjoy the Scout a lot. To get a little less of a cruiser set up, I put on reduced reach beach bars, reduced reach controls and a nice higher 1920s solo seat and floor boards. Everything but the floorboards came free with the bike because it was end of the year clearance. Very happy to have an American made bike in the garage with the Guzzis. The motor is remarkably smooth. The radiator is so low it really does not detract from the looks of the bike in my opinion.
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I ride my Guzzis more but enjoy the Scout a lot. To get a little less of a cruiser set up, I put on reduced reach beach bars, reduced reach controls and a nice higher 1920s solo seat and floor boards.
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The motor is remarkably smooth. The radiator is so low it really does not detract from the looks of the bike in my opinion.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/eiO3sz/IMG_2163.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eiO3sz)
Perfect, exactly what I've been thinking on all those counts.
The right color too!
Nice!
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https://ibb.co/eiO3sz
I like that!
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Kev-I haven't seen the Kuryakin, but the Roland Sands and a kit out of Japan have been out a long time. I think either one will be uncomfortable for an inseam above 30".
Kidsmoke-my wife had a Jackal, I had an EV and a V700 in addition to my LeMans which was my main touring bike. The standard Scout pegs were pretty good but a little stretched out and the cornering was a bit too noisy. So we each installed the "reduced reach" kit which raised the pegs and moved them back a bit. She now has boards installed which allows her to put her feet about where the Jackal was.
Frankly after riding the Scout both the EV and Jackal felt very cramped. On my bike my knees and hips are at about 90 degrees, the bars pull me into a decent posture and I ride it all day without issue.
My friend with a V9 Roamer with the set-back controls says my bike felt a lot like his.
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Kev-I haven't seen the Kuryakin, but the Roland Sands and a kit out of Japan have been out a long time. I think either one will be uncomfortable for an inseam above 30".
I'll have to take a sit on one if I come across one set up like that. Very nice....
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Forgot to mention-I also have 2 sets of footboards. I continue with the pegs for several reasons but here's my point.
The Scout with reduced-reach foot controls plus the Indian factory footboards feels pretty much like a Jackal as far as foot position, with much of what that implies-even greater cornering clearance and the feeling of being cramped.
These are pricey to buy new but if any Guzzi rider converts to a Scout and wants the Indian boards I'll take $50 plus shipping. I won't use them. One thing abvout these bikes-it takes less than 5 minutes to switch from pegs to boards and vice versa. Heck, I think I could change a drive belt in less time than changing from pegs to boards on a California.
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How do you think a Scout would work for small passengers (kids)?
I wonder if there's a passenger pillion set-up that can be used with the raised solo style seat (kinda like what I have on my Police RK)?
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For a small passenger it would be fine-some use them for 2 up but I doubt they ride really big miles. The pegs mount to the swingarm-a retro touch.
The OEM pillion is pretty decent for what it is and again a small passenger would be happy-the backrest would be a must in my opinion. Again, mounting and de-mounting takes only a few minutes. The "driver" backrest is not really a good idea, it interferes with swinging a leg over.
I think there's a few options on seats from aftermarket sources, no input on those.
2018 bikes have a slightly modified rear exhaust that moves the pipe inboard a bit, which may help those with shorter legs avoid a hotleg.
If like me you like to dirt road it a bit you may want to consider a front "mud" flap. I dinged a few radiator fins on a loose-chip road this summer on the Ute reservation in Colorado
This year's trip the fuel mileage was remarkable, much improved from the first year. We may be doing a cross-Canada ride next year, really looking forward to it.
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What does the right side footboard look like in relation to the pipes?
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Right side as requested:
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And from the top:
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Thanks!! :thumb:
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Just my opinion, but the best thing about the scout is the engine and gearbox. If they put that motor in a standard ergo streetfighter/tourer/adventure I would buy one. Provided it had the necessary goodies, like tank range and ability to strap some luggage on it.
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Just my opinion, but the best thing about the scout is the engine and gearbox. If they put that motor in a standard ergo streetfighter/tourer/adventure I would buy one. Provided it had the necessary goodies, like tank range and ability to strap some luggage on it.
Yep, that's a sweet motor, I'm just not crazy about what they bolt it to. They could use a little Eric Buell
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I've done a couple of road tests on the Scout, one just before I bought my V7, and one a year later. I didn't like riding in the birthing position, but apart from that enjoyed it, except that over 50mph on a busy motorway on a windy day it didn't feel too stable, certainly not as stable as my Guzzi. I felt that it was better suited for quieter, slower roads. Oh, and for posing around town.
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I like the fact that the scout is soooo different from the other bikes; actually think it looks OK, too.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/eyWSje/Sandy_on_scout.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eyWSje)
It's a good looking bike, a few things I would like different (for me) but I would own one.