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Title: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on September 11, 2018, 10:06:41 PM
One door closes, another opens.....
So, while I missed out on that white LeMans III in NJ, Cam connected me with the seller of this Mk1 LeMans, a 1977 model.     While it's got some incorrect details with the paint and some other small details, it's all there.    It'll need a battery, and likely a carb cleaning and some tires to start.

Thank you Cam!!

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1864/44628615461_7b03b2ec78_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aZFjxg)IMG_3536 (https://flic.kr/p/2aZFjxg) by jay_snyder67 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97354518@N02/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1894/29689720337_f01f3d0058_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MezztX)IMG_3538 (https://flic.kr/p/MezztX) by jay_snyder67 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97354518@N02/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1895/44628614951_db10f0c27e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aZFjot)IMG_3537 (https://flic.kr/p/2aZFjot) by jay_snyder67 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97354518@N02/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/44628614021_54009fb013_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aZFj7r)IMG_3539 (https://flic.kr/p/2aZFj7r) by jay_snyder67 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97354518@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: guzzisteve on September 11, 2018, 10:16:04 PM
What a deal, 2 sidestands.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on September 11, 2018, 10:22:15 PM
What a deal, 2 sidestands.

Two for the price of one!

The brown side stand is definitely worth having.   I didn't know the original was still on the bike until it showed up this evening.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: guzzisteve on September 11, 2018, 10:25:52 PM
Saw a Guzzi at WV rally years ago that had a sidestand on both sides.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: kingoffleece on September 12, 2018, 12:13:20 AM
"Oh, that one right there?  She's trouble.  A right saucy tart, that one is!"
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on September 12, 2018, 06:02:51 AM
Just what you needed.. another bike.  :smiley:  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Guzzistajohn on September 12, 2018, 06:11:46 AM
Those old bikes don’t have enough e-lectronic gizmos on them I’d get rid of it now and save all that trouble
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Sheepdog on September 12, 2018, 06:18:43 AM
What a beauty! One of my favorite Guzzis.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on September 12, 2018, 06:28:09 AM
Just what you needed.. another bike.  :smiley:  :thumb:

N+1

(http://themotolady.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/howmanybikesformula.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: lucian on September 12, 2018, 06:47:30 AM
Nice!  Your going to love riding that bike. Congrats.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Devildog on September 12, 2018, 07:28:48 AM
Really nice find......it may end up being your favorite bike.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: canuck750 on September 12, 2018, 01:53:03 PM
That’s a nice one!!
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on September 12, 2018, 08:48:28 PM
Hmmm, gauge cluster might not be correct on my bike.

Mine:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/44628614021_54009fb013_c.jpg)

Others:
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57b86d14e3df2876f53e1b62/t/596d7b88f7e0abe97262c32f/1507830700011/1977+Moto+Guzzi+Lemans+1?format=1500w)
(https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/moto_guzzi/9479773.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Gy74D7p.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on September 12, 2018, 09:01:33 PM
The warning light panel is a separate piece and rather fragile. At least you have a chance of actually seeing the warning lights.  :wink:
http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=276&products_id=4483
(http://www.mgcycle.com/images/atrex/14766955.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: yogidozer on September 12, 2018, 10:28:07 PM
The Eagle has landed? Not the Goose?  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Turin on September 12, 2018, 11:56:49 PM
That's pretty sweet. Good score! :drool:
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: PeteS on September 13, 2018, 06:09:15 AM
Very nice low mile example. You shouldn't have to do much to it. I see the steering damper has already been binned. No need to replace it. Mine has been in the off position almost since new.
I think these came with 135 mains. Check whats there. You might want to go up one size (137.5??) to compensate for the ethanol fuel which didn't exist when these came in. Otherwise just a simple tune up and valve adjust and you should be good to go.
Also do you know if the steel caliper pistons have been replaced? If not they should be with the newer coated aluminum ones.

Pete
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on September 13, 2018, 07:38:11 AM
The Eagle has landed? Not the Goose?  :laugh:

(https://image.ibb.co/i9ENZp/Screen_Shot_2018_09_13_at_8_37_28_AM.png)
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Muzz on September 13, 2018, 08:24:33 PM
Mmmmm. I sense BEER. :boozing: :thumb: (or have you sold some already) :grin:

Nice looking machine though. :thumb:
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Cam3512 on September 13, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/i9ENZp/Screen_Shot_2018_09_13_at_8_37_28_AM.png)

http://www.museodelmarchioitaliano.com/route1/moto-guzzi.php
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Groover on September 13, 2018, 11:14:06 PM
Congrats, great addition for sure!
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Fireflyr on September 16, 2018, 02:18:36 PM
Congrats, great addition for sure!

To add to that, the eagle logo is the actual Italian civilian wings a pilot would earn at the time.

(https://thumb.ibb.co/bHLW2K/WWI_2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bHLW2K)

(https://thumb.ibb.co/gndvUz/rditaliantankpilotfrtsm.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gndvUz)
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: F-22 on September 17, 2018, 02:21:29 AM
The V35II and V50III (not sure about the V50II) and probably the V65 had that style of dashboard lights with separate left and right turn signal lights. The early V35 and V50 had the same dashboard lights as the Le Mans 1 should have, but the colours were different (green for I think the lights and blue high beam, while I believe everything should be red on the le mans except for the orange neutral light).
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Motorad64 on January 09, 2019, 11:14:58 AM
My recently acquired '78 LM1 has black headlight ears and handlebars as well as all-red warning lights on the dash except for the neutral indicator, which is green.
(https://i.ibb.co/rH8LL60/LM-dash.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rH8LL60)
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Moto on January 09, 2019, 11:46:06 AM
The V35II and V50III (not sure about the V50II) and probably the V65 had that style of dashboard lights with separate left and right turn signal lights. The early V35 and V50 had the same dashboard lights as the Le Mans 1 should have, but the colours were different (green for I think the lights and blue high beam, while I believe everything should be red on the le mans except for the orange neutral light).

That sounds right. If your turn signal dash lights are wired up, it's a useful upgrade. I made the same modification to my T3.

Moto
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on June 28, 2019, 10:28:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/J4Bg3Lq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/f74RxaF.jpg)

Last weekend, I finally got the Le Mans back together after pulling the forks for rebuild/upgrade.
The above pics are from the first ride after fork rebuild with '96 Honda VFR750 cartridges. The new forks work brilliantly!
Just need to get the fairing back on it (couldn't wait to try out, and skipped the fairing).

The Bub mufflers make such sweet music!

It's got a bunch of details that are not correct that I'll be taking care of as I get time.

Also, it NEEDs rear sets.     The stock foot peg position is too forward for clip-ons.   I felt folded up when riding it.

I'm thinking I'll go with the Agostini rear sets.

Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: earemike on June 28, 2019, 11:13:10 PM
Nice score, I’d take that over a mk3 every day (biased I know)
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: canuck750 on June 29, 2019, 07:39:11 AM
It looks GREAT! :thumb:
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: sdcr on June 29, 2019, 07:55:42 AM
Very nice  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: dxhall on June 29, 2019, 08:01:47 AM
That’s the exhaust I have on my LM V.  It’s great.  Report back on your rearset decision - I’ve thinking about a set myself.  Who stocks the Agostinis in the US?
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: blackcat on June 29, 2019, 08:43:11 AM
Looks great.  I have the Ago’s on my CX and they are way more comfortable than the stock pegs IMO.  I will probably get another set when I put my LM I back together, though they are not cheap anymore.

I really do dislike the US headlight trim, does anyone know if the trim can just be replaced with the Euro trim or does it require a whole new light?
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on June 29, 2019, 09:49:15 AM
MG Cycle sells both the Agos and Tarozzi.   The Agos look like they only are a little more than an inch more rearward than stock.  The Tarozzi are more like 3 inches back, and an ice nah higher. 

I’ll likely go with Tarozzi.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on June 29, 2019, 09:52:03 AM
Looks great.  I have the Ago’s on my CX and they are way more comfortable than the stock pegs IMO.  I will probably get another set when I put my LM I back together, though they are not cheap anymore.

I really do dislike the US headlight trim, does anyone know if the trim can just be replaced with the Euro trim or does it require a whole new light?

Requires a whole new headlight. On Ted's Le Mans, I used one from a V65C which is identical to the original Euro unit other than it's chrome (I had it powdercoated black).
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Turin on June 29, 2019, 10:35:35 AM
I've got tarozzi rearsets on both my 850T and my LeMans SE. They are comfortable, and replacement parts are readily available.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: blackcat on June 29, 2019, 10:49:58 AM
Requires a whole new headlight. On Ted's Le Mans, I used one from a V65C which is identical to the original Euro unit other than it's chrome (I had it powdercoated black).

Charlie, thanks.  Now I just need to source  a V65C headlight.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on June 29, 2019, 12:34:07 PM
Charlie, thanks.  Now I just need to source  a V65C headlight.

Or a V50 III which would already be black. That's what I bought from Ed Milich, but when it showed up it was a chrome one from a V65C.  :wink:
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: blackcat on June 29, 2019, 03:21:23 PM
Or a V50 III which would already be black. That's what I bought from Ed Milich, but when it showed up it was a chrome one from a V65C.  :wink:

 Charlie,  thanks, I’ll have to send Ed an email.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Cam3512 on June 29, 2019, 03:34:08 PM
Charlie,  thanks, I’ll have to send Ed an email.

Agree.  Looks much better when the headlight is flush with the fairing.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: blackcat on June 29, 2019, 06:44:29 PM
I wonder if this is the same headlight?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/guzzi-v65-florida-headlight-v50/272695627248?hash=item3f7ded0df0:g:9sMAAOSwcB5ZLxDH
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: s1120 on June 29, 2019, 06:55:35 PM
Agree.  Looks much better when the headlight is flush with the fairing.

You know... maybe just because its what I am used to always seeing.... I like the extended headlamp.. 
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on June 29, 2019, 06:58:46 PM
I wonder if this is the same headlight?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/guzzi-v65-florida-headlight-v50/272695627248?hash=item3f7ded0df0:g:9sMAAOSwcB5ZLxDH

Yes.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on June 29, 2019, 10:40:18 PM
Agree.  Looks much better when the headlight is flush with the fairing.

Hmmm, I think that I’ll be looking for a V50 III headlight.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Stevex on June 30, 2019, 12:55:46 PM
Quote
Last weekend, I finally got the Le Mans back together after pulling the forks for rebuild/upgrade.
The above pics are from the first ride after fork rebuild with '96 Honda VFR750 cartridges. The new forks work brilliantly!
Just need to get the fairing back on it (couldn't wait to try out, and skipped the fairing).

Did the same mod on my LM2 last winter but am yet to test ride the finished article.
As a matter of interest, what viscosity fork oil did you use and what air gap?
Also, the original LM had longer single fork springs than the MK2s two springs per fork set up; I had to ditch the shorter of my springs due to the length of the RC36 cartridges. How did you get around that problem?
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on June 30, 2019, 05:05:01 PM
Did the same mod on my LM2 last winter but am yet to test ride the finished article.
As a matter of interest, what viscosity fork oil did you use and what air gap?
Also, the original LM had longer single fork springs than the MK2s two springs per fork set up; I had to ditch the shorter of my springs due to the length of the RC36 cartridges. How did you get around that problem?

I'm not sure of the air gap, but, it was 235cc of 10wt per leg.

I'm pretty sure that my friend who did the work just shortened the springs, as I brought home some short spring pieces.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: Stevex on July 01, 2019, 12:08:24 PM
I'm not sure of the air gap, but, it was 235cc of 10wt per leg.

I'm pretty sure that my friend who did the work just shortened the springs, as I brought home some short spring pieces.

Thanks for the reply.
As a matter of interest, what made you decide on 235cc?
I went for the same air gap that Honda quoted for their donor forks.
Title: Re: The Eagle has landed, Mk1 Le Mans content
Post by: jas67 on July 01, 2019, 06:02:41 PM
Thanks for the reply.
As a matter of interest, what made you decide on 235cc?
I went for the same air gap that Honda quoted for their donor forks.

235cc was arrived at by measuring the air gap, but, unfortunately, I can't remember what it got set to.