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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: dave1068 on December 18, 2018, 11:25:11 AM
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Looking to add a 2nd bike for knocking around town and going to work. Ive had a few Triumph Scramblers in the past (all carb'd no FI) and know what they are and like them. I have the chance to pick up a leftover Stornello for about the same price as used late model Scrambler (7200)
For those that may have had both, what are the pro's and con's of both? I will say that Stornello is sharp and the limited # made may make it a collectible some day. They both seem to have about 48HP.
Thanks,
-Dave
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Can't go wrong either way.
I'd get the Stornello just because I'd had a few Scramblers.
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I think thats what I may be partial to, still hunting though... Thx-
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I've never owned a triumph scrambler, but I picked up a stornello last year and really like it. Although the suspension is not the best. Plan on upgrading this winter. I don't know where your located but I picked mine up for 6800 at the dealer in Accident MD. Not sure if they have any left.
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Follow your heart...
None of those bike will be a collectible one day... never ever.
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One of my Army buddies bought the triumph Scrambler when we got back from Afghanistan last December. I rode it, was nice enough but nothing for me to connect to. The initial thump of the parallel twin was nice at the lower revs, but had no real character and certainly lacked the qualities of the Guzzi.
The Stornello is all charm. For me, the idea of air cooled shaft drive and classic looks makes the Moto Guzzi far more preferable. Perhaps this is due to my love of the Yamaha XS series on which I started my motorcycle riding. In the mid-eighties I transitioned to water cooled bikes, but far prefer an air-oil cooled motor. I've got a thread here on WG tracking my experience with the bike (#742) including the upgrades I've made. I upgraded the rear suspension to 420 mm Hagen trail shocks in the rear and K-Tech Fork Springs and it transformed the ride of the motorcycle I think my total out-of-pocket was less than $450.
The factory triumph suspension was much more compliant then the stornello, but there's a wide variety of aftermarket shocks that you can have set up for your exact weight.
I don't know about the stornello ever becoming a true collectible bike, but it certainly is rare and unique only made for one year with a total of 1000 made World wide.
for whatever reason, I've always been a counterculture anti-fad kind of guy, and the popularity of triumph right now makes me want to steer away from it and I enjoy riding the Stornello knowing that I likely will not see a single another one on the road unless it's someone I've intentionally teamed up with. Heck, that's true for almost any Moto Guzzi. The uniqueness is something that's appealing to me, it is the character in total package that is a Moto Guzzi motorcycle that has me hooked on the brand.
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Nobody can say for sure what will and won' be collectable. I'd tend to agree Stornello won' be but who knows for sure? And at a lot of our ages, does it matter anyways?
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Can't go wrong either way.
I'd get the Stornello just because I'd had a few Scramblers.
Agreed! Both "WAY COOL" either way, but go with the Stornello...just because it's a Guzzi!! :cool: :thumb: :smiley: :wink:
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+1
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Or buy a V7 III Stone with the newer engine and make it a Scrambler.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vMAcwXAZyRU/Walpyyp3beI/AAAAAAABnJI/LzrOavSFWH49_UgsxtRZepSCZhdud6ERACLcBGAs/s1600/V7%2BIII%2BAccessories%2B2017%2B12.JPG)
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Or buy a V7 III Stone with the newer engine and make it a Scrambler.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vMAcwXAZyRU/Walpyyp3beI/AAAAAAABnJI/LzrOavSFWH49_UgsxtRZepSCZhdud6ERACLcBGAs/s1600/V7%2BIII%2BAccessories%2B2017%2B12.JPG)
That was going to be my way of conversion...until I saw how much an arrow exhaust cost...
ya...
as for between the Triumph and Guzzi, I personally leaning toward Guzzi as it is air-cool and "more lively" as personal feels to it.
Triumph has more HP, but if you are doing more non-pavement ride, don't see how that matters as much...
and I can't get over the triumph pipe LOL as I prefer how the arrow's look...yes, I am shallow that way :P...
But tho, both are awesome bike...gonna say follow your heart and see which one makes your head turn more :afro:
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I'm already seeing several 2018 V7 three marked down to the high six low seven range so this makes purchasing the arrow exhaust for more reasonable. There is a brand new arrow exhaust on fleaBay for $1,000
I don't think the stone has the same overall aesthetic appeal of the stornello, but it's definitely nice to have options.
That was going to be my way of conversion...until I saw how much an arrow exhaust cost...
ya...
as for between the Triumph and Guzzi, I personally leaning toward Guzzi as it is air-cool and "more lively" as personal feels to it.
Triumph has more HP, but if you are doing more non-pavement ride, don't see how that matters as much...
and I can't get over the triumph pipe LOL as I prefer how the arrow's look...yes, I am shallow that way :P...
But tho, both are awesome bike...gonna say follow your heart and see which one makes your head turn more :afro:
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The Scrambler is heavier but has much better sump protection. Personally, I'd be afraid to take a Stornello on anything other than gravel roads while I wouldn't think twice about running a Scrambler under a powerline(as long as it wasn't muddy). I don't agree that the Scrambler lacks character. They sound great with the Arrow pipe and the firing order makes for a tractable engine.
I agree 100% with egshade on buying a Stone and slapping on the high pipe. Since I consider the V7 a smooth gravel type scrambler because of the sump, I'd take the Stone with it's tubeless tires over the spoked wheels on a Stornello. If I wanted the spoked wheels I'd buy a Special. The V7III is improved enough over the II that I'd mod the III and take it over a Stornello every time.
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V85 TT, anyone?
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I'm on the path to a V7 Scrambler. Just bought the aluminum side panels on eBay for $80. Waiting for a good buy on the high exhaust but am satisfied with the low ones for now. A sump guard would be very nice but I've yet to find one for the III.
(https://i.ibb.co/DLk32yj/semi-rough-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DLk32yj)
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Guzzzi. Easy and for all the right reasons :boozing: :grin:
Modern Triumph twins are great bikes. Uber reliable, finished nicely, lots of aftermarket stuff for them. But. Boring. Sorry.
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Triumph Scrambler pricing. Ouch.
https://www.rideapart.com/articles/297814/triumph-scrambler-1200-pricing/
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While we're on the topic... anyone making a QUALITY sump guard for the V7?
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I would go with the boring Triumph. (http://www.mcnews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2019-Triumph-Scrambler-1200-XE-Action-1.jpg)
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Purty pics aside, I find them boring to ride.
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I thought I wanted a stornello, but when I saw one in person the bottom of the bike just seemed to be missing something without the exhaust down there.
I like the Triumph Scrambler and if a good used one came across my path I might bite.
Buying new, I might go for a Ducati Desert Sled. It is truly and off road capable machine with classic looks.
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Ride them both, buy the one that puts the biggest smile on your face.... simple really. The farkeling can come latter when the $$$ are available.
I owned an '09 Triumph Scramble, we never bonded. Since then I've owned a few other parallel twins and have come to realize I'm not a fan of parallel twins.
The V-twins and flat twins ring my chime the loudest. Now add shaft drive to the mix and it would be an easy decision for me. Luv'n my '18 V7 Special, it does all I ask of it.
Paul
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I would go with the boring Triumph. (http://www.mcnews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2019-Triumph-Scrambler-1200-XE-Action-1.jpg)
This is NOT the Scrambler he's talking about. This is a pic of the new, $16k Scrambler. :shocked:
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While we're on the topic... anyone making a QUALITY sump guard for the V7?
Let me know if you find one. I've looked multiple times and cannot find anything for the V7 III.
AF-1 carries an Agostini for the V7 and II https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=79669 (https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=79669) Listing says, "Does not fit V7 III's due to interference with exhaust sensors." Wonder if it could be modified for the III with low pipes? Suspect it's bolt on if you swapped to high ones...
(https://www.af1racing.com/store/ProdImages/st3/AMV7PC_d.jpg)
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Appreciate the feedback, Ive had a few Scramblers and 2 MGs but never a small block goose. At 6'2 the Stornello would fit me and I have to admit i love how it looks, on the other hand, Ive seen several used Scramblers, mnay with the arrow exhaust and other mods in the 5-6k range. So many decisions...
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My Stornello is the best bike I have ever had so far but only 13,000+ miles and I have more people stop to admire the good looks etc than all the bikes I've ever had put together. Just sayin