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Title: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on January 15, 2019, 02:14:48 PM
I just saw the first episode.  The murder takes place in Devil's Den.  Many references to NW  Ark and East OK in it.

It looks like they filmed it in the area.  Thought some of the Okie Rally types might interested.

It was so intense that I'll have to watch the second episode tomorrow.  I think the dialog among the detectives, future love interest and  the community is spot on.  I hope the story doesn't devolve like the first two series did. 
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 15, 2019, 02:54:35 PM
Where do you watch that? Is it on Directv?
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: rocker59 on January 15, 2019, 03:01:54 PM
I just saw the first episode.  The murder takes place in Devil's Den.  Many references to NW  Ark and East OK in it.

It looks like they filmed it in the area.   

It was filmed on location here in NW Arkansas last summer.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on January 15, 2019, 03:03:24 PM
HBO.

There were two previous seasons with individual stories, all separate time and location with different actors.   I thought this was the best opening, not just because it was in the area but also because the two groups of suspects hint at real murders that have happened in the general geographical area as well as the worldview and circumstances of the characters.  It's setting in 1980, 1990 and 2015.  The same actor Mahershala Ali, the black detective, playing the character as he aged.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on January 15, 2019, 03:04:49 PM
It was filmed on location here in NW Arkansas last summer.

I would say it was early spring or winter.  But it was apparent that it was actually filmed there.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 15, 2019, 04:51:56 PM
I cancelled HBO after watching five minutes of Bill Mahr.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: John Ulrich on January 15, 2019, 05:05:57 PM
Is the current show as good as the first with Matthew and Woody?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRPpCqXYoos
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: bad Chad on January 15, 2019, 05:11:52 PM
Cha Cha and I are going to start the show soon.  Didn’t see the first two seasons, but doesn’t matter for this one as each season is it’s own thing.   Looking forward to it
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Rebochi on January 15, 2019, 05:52:06 PM
   The First Season was great, second season not so good and so far the 3rd season is pretty good.
Season one was loosely based on real incidents around Lake Charles. A Devil cult did a few gruesome murders/sacrifices with a jumbo simpleton as a key figure, all detailed in a book "Axes of evil".
   
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Joliet Jim on January 15, 2019, 07:33:05 PM
Cha Cha and I are going to start the show soon.  Didn’t see the first two seasons, but doesn’t matter for this one as each season is it’s own thing.   Looking forward to it

First season with Woody and Mathew was really good. Season 2 was good but not as good as 1. Haven't seen any of three yet, but I have HBO so I can watch it at my leisure on demand. 
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on January 15, 2019, 08:55:02 PM
I cancelled HBO after watching five minutes of Bill Mahr.

I DVR each episode
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: rocker59 on January 16, 2019, 07:46:16 AM
I would say it was early spring or winter.  But it was apparent that it was actually filmed there.

You're correct.  I mis-spoke.  Late Winter into Spring. 

Of interesting note, the creator, Nic Pizzolatto, went to school here at The University of Arkansas.

Here's a link to filming locations:  https://www.4029tv.com/article/true-detective-season-3-mahershala-ali-filming-locations/25608045

Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: kidsmoke on January 16, 2019, 10:46:40 AM
planning to unplug from HBO, but waited an extra week so I could catch this. I thought it was excellent. Ali is an exceptional talent, and with the budget HBO has, the makeup, on what otherwise is just straight up live location stuff is AMAZING. This guys transformation between the three time frames is flawless, and when you consider that as an actor, he had to shift mentally during a short filming time frame, it's really impressive.

And my unplugging is not political or anything else. Just less is more....less screen time, more money and mental time for other things. I'm ditching cable, and HBO is 15 mo as an a la carte option. Few hours entertainment just isn't worth it. My dog, guitars, bike and Girlfriend will all benefit.

I sound convincing don't I??
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Kristian on January 16, 2019, 01:00:43 PM
The first season was riveting, intelligent, television; the second got such bad reviews I steered clear. It's a problem with lightning striking twice, etc.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on January 16, 2019, 04:43:48 PM
I saw the 2nd episode and so far, consider this show to be better than the previous two series.  The dialog and interplay between Hayes, his partner, future and past wife, and his son are just outstanding.  The plot, we'll see.

The problem with the first series was they started interesting but turned incoherent with had messy plots.  The critics say that this one turns into a mess as well.  But so far I like it much better than the others.  The flashback narrative seems to work much better.  Also, setting it in Ark and Okla draws my interest as well.  I think they captured the environment.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on January 17, 2019, 06:57:19 AM
 So I gather from this that the show is filmed somewhere around Toad suck Ark.?
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Joliet Jim on January 17, 2019, 08:16:49 AM
So I gather from this that the show is filmed somewhere around Toad suck Ark.?

Been there, nice campground on the river
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Sheepdog on January 17, 2019, 09:24:09 AM
Watched this season's first two episodes last night. Very well done. I didn't see the previous seasons, but I'm hooked now...
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on January 17, 2019, 12:17:23 PM
So I gather from this that the show is filmed somewhere around Toad suck Ark.?

No, closer to Rcoker's place.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: rocker59 on January 17, 2019, 03:21:51 PM
So I gather from this that the show is filmed somewhere around Toad suck Ark.?

Locations in Northwest Arkansas.  Fort Smith, Fayetteville, Lincoln, Devil's Den, etc...
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on January 20, 2019, 10:57:19 AM
For anyone who likes the serialized shows where each season has a different cast/timeline/story...   i cannot reccomend FARGO strongly enough...  Loved all three seasons, esp season 3 with confirmed Guzzi nut Ewan McGregor and his STEAMY STEAMY HOY & SEXY new girlfriend Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on January 20, 2019, 11:03:25 AM
I cancelled HBO after watching five minutes of Bill Mahr.

this is snowflake behavior

cancelling an entire network with the best on demand service & back catalogue of some of the best original shows & documentaries ever produced because I don't like one personality who has 1hr/week show for 5mo/year lol

enjoy your indignation, we'll be watching Sopranos, Deadwood, and The Wire
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Lannis on January 20, 2019, 12:22:05 PM
this is snowflake behavior

cancelling an entire network with the best on demand service & back catalogue of some of the best original shows & documentaries ever produced because I don't like one personality who has 1hr/week show for 5mo/year lol

enjoy your indignation, we'll be watching Sopranos, Deadwood, and The Wire

Actually, you have to realize that just because someone doesn't have the same "tube viewing" taste as you do, that doesn't make them worthy of name-calling.   

Sometimes people have different opinions, you know.   My opinion is that any company that would pay money to someone like Bill Maher is not a company that I would send any money to.

And I've seen (in motel rooms) some of "The Sopranos", the TV version of "Deadwood", and "The Wire", and it looks like crap to me.   

So enjoy it, but don't be shocked if other people don't ....

Lannis
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on January 20, 2019, 12:30:38 PM
For anyone who likes the serialized shows where each season has a different cast/timeline/story...   i cannot reccomend FARGO strongly enough...  Loved all three seasons, esp season 3 with confirmed Guzzi nut Ewan McGregor and his STEAMY STEAMY HOY & SEXY new girlfriend Mary Elizabeth Winstead

You betcha  :thumb:

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Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on January 20, 2019, 12:34:36 PM
Actually, you have to realize that just because someone doesn't have the same "tube viewing" taste as you do, that doesn't make them worthy of name-calling.   

Sometimes people have different opinions, you know.   My opinion is that any company that would pay money to someone like Bill Maher is not a company that I would send any money to.

And I've seen (in motel rooms) some of "The Sopranos", the TV version of "Deadwood", and "The Wire", and it looks like crap to me.   

So enjoy it, but don't be shocked if other people don't ....

Lannis

I appreciate your view from your moral high ground advising against name-calling.   Lannis, you've  always been a beacon of moral fortitude and an inspiration.

In the future, I will consider:
WWLD? 
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Lannis on January 20, 2019, 02:07:51 PM
I appreciate your view from your moral high ground advising against name-calling.   Lannis, you've  always been a beacon of moral fortitude and an inspiration.

In the future, I will consider:
WWLD?

You'd definitely be better off.   Try it for a while ....  :thumb:
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on January 20, 2019, 02:22:41 PM
S1 true detective was incredible...  Have not seen S2, mostly due to poor reviews, but we will prob start it up once we finish S3

Really liking S3 so far
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on January 20, 2019, 02:24:24 PM
Oh and this doesnt merit it's own thread... but with all you MO ppl... is anyone watching OZARK on netflix? its sososososososososos osososos good!
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: oldbike54 on January 20, 2019, 04:55:29 PM
 Unforgotten . Try it , brilliant series .

 Dusty
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: bpreynolds on January 21, 2019, 08:25:11 AM
Season 1 is probably in my top 5 of greatest television series ever.  By greatest I merely mean in terms of quality, enjoyment, writing, acting, etc.  For reference, number one on that list and will likely never be toppled from it is Breaking Bad.  Ozarks might even be in there somewhere or at least in the top 8 or so.  Season 2 of TD was a mess, still better in general than most of what is on television, but still a mess.  So far, IMO season 3 seems back on track though it’s nowhere near that previously mentioned top five.  I love that it is back to great acting, solid story, etc. and not the ridiculousness of season 2.  The lead guy is awesome and truly phenomenal in the movie Moonlight.  That guy is a great actor.  And too, I can’t get over how much I’m enjoying Stephen Dorff.  Sort of like Ben Affleck, I always start off not wanting to like the guy in whatever he’s in, but somehow wind up enjoying his performance.  I think Dorff is doing a great job in this. 
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: John A on January 21, 2019, 09:06:13 AM
, we'll be watching Sopranos, Deadwood, and The Wire



The Wire is excellent , case anybody overlooked it
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on February 18, 2019, 08:03:53 AM
The series will conclude next week.  In my opinion this season is better than the previous two seasons of the show.  This series is tangentially related to the first season.  IMO the story is more focused and the dialog and situations are better written and more interesting. 
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: kidsmoke on February 18, 2019, 09:32:07 AM
The series will conclude next week.  In my opinion this season is better than the previous two seasons of the show.  This series is tangentially related to the first season.  IMO the story is more focused and the dialog and situations are better written and more interesting.

I agree. This is good Television...if there is such a thing. Ali and Dorff are both excellent.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Sheepdog on February 18, 2019, 09:44:01 AM
I have to agree...a great series. I'm already wishing the show ran longer. Oh well, "Deadwood" is on the horizon...
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on February 18, 2019, 03:57:48 PM
I have to agree...a great series. I'm already wishing the show ran longer. Oh well, "Deadwood" is on the horizon...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2019/02/13/ian-mcshane-discusses-hbo-deadwood-reunion-film/2858504002/

PASADENA, Calif. — It's been more than a decade since Al Swearengen raised Cain, swore a blue streak and mastered the corrupt arts as proprietor of The Gem saloon in HBO's dearly missed "Deadwood."

But Al and his frontier brethren will be back this year for a "Deadwood" film that's been talked about for ages, the finishing touch for the acclaimed Western drama that ended its series run in 2006 after three seasons and 36 episodes.

It's been quite a trip back in time and place for Ian McShane, who infused Al with energy, swagger and ruffian charm, making the character a fan favorite and earning the English actor a Golden Globe.

McShane, who plays Mr. Wednesday on Starz's "American Gods" (Season 2, March 10), was thrilled to return to "Deadwood," a possibility frequently discussed but long considered unlikely after such an extended hiatus.

Making the film was "surreal, out of body ... going back 15 years with the people you've loved and worked with," McShane said in an interview at the Television Critics Association.

Filming was completed in December. HBO last year targeted a spring premiere, but no date has been announced.

Did McShane expect the  "Deadwood" reunion would ever happen?

"Not really," he said, rationalizing that even without a closing film, the low-rated Western created by David Milch ("NYPD Blue") "had three great years and (the show) would be talked about forever. … We left it to HBO a long time ago: You get a script and we'd love to do it."

Finally, "they got this script together (and) I think they got it right." .

The film, written by Milch and directed by Daniel Minahan, returns to the frontier town in 1889, a decade after the original series was set, as South Dakota nears statehood.

Lawman and hardware store owner Seth Bullock (Timothy Olyphant) is back; so are Alma Ellsworth (Molly Parker), Trixie (Paula Malcomson), hotel owner E.B Farnum (William Sanderson), Sol Star (John Hawkes), Martha Bullock (Anna Gunn) and others. George Hearst (Gerald McRaney) is about to become a U.S. senator.

"Al's great, but he's a little diminished," McShane says. "Al's had a little too much of that" — he makes a drinking motion with his hand — "over the years. He's not the force he was in the same kind of way."

Even with the passage of time, "It's in a way a continuation from the last episode where he killed the girl (Jen). It’s kind of a memory 10 years later linking into statehood and everything about Bullock," McShane says. "It’s like a reunion, because it's statehood day, Hearst is becoming a senator,  Farnum is greasing his wheels and Bullock now has grown-up kids."

The actor found filming "quite moving and emotional. There was a huge set piece in the middle (and) I was in pieces. I looked around and people were crying," he said, adding that some of the emotion came from getting back together with colleagues after such a long time.

"Everybody brought their 'A' game," he said. "They're such tremendous actors and everybody respected each other's work."

After filming his final scene, McShane said he asked, "'Is that it?' They said that was it. It was over in a blink."

He's happy for the "Deadwood" closure and believes the film will be the final word  on the project.

"Of course, if it gets 150 million viewers … they'll find a way of bringing something back. Who knows?" he said. "It was a trip to do it. It was a pleasure."

Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: betres on February 18, 2019, 04:29:34 PM
All of these choices are exceptional.   Anyone remember the tv series from 2010 entitled The Pacific?   Certainly in my all time top 5
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Sheepdog on February 19, 2019, 10:24:22 AM
Like “Band of Brothers,” “The Pacific” was based on some really great books. “Helmet for My Pillow” and Eugene Sledge’s “With the Old Breed: Peleliu and Okinawa” told the story as it happened. It’s hard to imagine such horror and deprivation. “The Pacific” reveals the war’s realities without the traditional glory attached...as the veterans remember it.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Daleroso on February 19, 2019, 10:35:58 AM
IMO season 1 & 3 are excellent. Season 2 not as much. I just hope they tie up loose ends in 3 with 1 episode left.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on February 19, 2019, 01:49:07 PM
IMO season 1 & 3 are excellent. Season 2 not as much. I just hope they tie up loose ends in 3 with 1 episode left.

I'll agree that 1 was better than 2.   But this season is much better IMO.  Ali and Dorf are better than Woody and Matt.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on February 25, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
That finale didn't disappoint.  If not a happy ending at least it was satisfying.  And it took a child's murder originally of black and white circumstances to a final of shades of gray, tragic turns and personal guilt. 

I really think this season caught the nuances of the times and placed it in the dialogue and character development. 

Ironically Ali was winning his academy award when this was on HBO.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: Sheepdog on February 25, 2019, 02:25:15 PM
Agreed. I liked it also.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: MadMike on February 25, 2019, 04:21:07 PM
Season 3 was excellent. It did not depend on shock value to move the plot forward. Clever ending with a bit of ambiguity: Did Ali's character realize that it was Julie or did dementia not allow for this. Some interpretation needed. Great series.
Title: Re: True Detective
Post by: LowRyter on February 26, 2019, 08:55:46 AM
Season 3 was excellent. It did not depend on shock value to move the plot forward. Clever ending with a bit of ambiguity: Did Ali's character realize that it was Julie or did dementia not allow for this. Some interpretation needed. Great series.

I think the answer alluded him at the time, perhaps it will come to him later?  But his son found the address slip and knows that he went there for a reason and that he wasn't lost randomly. 

And we can't be sure that it was actually her in the first place. 

This was so much better than the first two series.