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Title: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: elvisboy77 on February 02, 2019, 08:09:38 AM
I’m planning a week long trip to the US Southwest.  Want to see Grand Canyon, Southern Utah and the like.  I think flying from Durham NC to either Phoenix or Las Vegas sometime in October makes the most sense weather and fare wise.

We want to rent motorcycles.

Any pros/cons of Phoenix vs LV?  Phoenix is non stop so that saves a couple of hours and reduces the odds of flight issues.

Any advice as to motorcycle rentals?  We would need two bikes, no land yachts.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: JJ on February 02, 2019, 08:17:45 AM
I’m planning a week long trip to the US Southwest.  Want to see Grand Canyon, Southern Utah and the like.  I think flying from Durham NC to either Phoenix or Las Vegas sometime in October makes the most sense weather and fare wise.

We want to rent motorcycles.

Any pros/cons of Phoenix vs LV?  Phoenix is non stop so that saves a couple of hours and reduces the odds of flight issues.

Any advice as to motorcycle rentals?  We would need two bikes, no land yachts.

Thanks!

* October is nicer that July or August, but it still can get HOT during the day in both Phoenix and Vegas.
* Either city is easy access to the Grand Canyon, Utah, CO and other nice riding areas
* EAGLE RIDER is probably your best bet for a bike rentals (HD's most likely...)
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: RinkRat II on February 02, 2019, 08:42:20 AM

   One option would be to fly into Albuquerque and rent from there. It will put you easy acess to Four corners, Moab, up to Highway 12, over to Bryce, Zion and the North rim of the Grand Canyon.  Back to Kanab, Page, over through Monument Valley and back to Alb.  September and early October are the best weather months here in Northern AZ and Utah.  You will be in what is referred to as the Grand Circle ....Decisions, decisions....https://grandcircle.org/grand-circle-map (https://grandcircle.org/grand-circle-map)

       Paul B :boozing:
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 02, 2019, 10:02:16 AM
   One option would be to fly into Albuquerque and rent from there. It will put you easy acess to Four corners, Moab, up to Highway 12, over to Bryce, Zion and the North rim of the Grand Canyon.  Back to Kanab, Page, over through Monument Valley and back to Alb.  September and early October are the best weather months here in Northern AZ and Utah.  You will be in what is referred to as the Grand Circle ....Decisions, decisions....https://grandcircle.org/grand-circle-map (https://grandcircle.org/grand-circle-map)

       Paul B :boozing:

I likey..
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: Travlr on February 02, 2019, 07:26:18 PM
I nice selection of rental Guzzi's, Triumphs and BMW's here.

Mike

https://eurocyclerentals.com/bikes/
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: pehayes on February 02, 2019, 07:34:21 PM
Are you more interested in photo op scenery or in history?  That might dictate very different routes.  Its all scenic.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: Kiwi Dave on February 02, 2019, 11:33:28 PM
Monument Valley is just fantastic, as is Moab and Arches National Park.

But wait, there's more.  Goblin Valley, southwest of Green River is also a must.  Better late in the day when there is lots of shadows.
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: Warren Rhen on February 03, 2019, 12:10:58 AM
Monument Valley is just fantastic, as is Moab and Arches National Park.

But wait, there's more.  Goblin Valley, southwest of Green River is also a must.  Better late in the day when there is lots of shadows.

He's right, but beware, I came out 3 years ago and fell in love with the whole SW and never left  :thumb:
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: kingoffleece on February 03, 2019, 06:18:51 AM
Yea, us, too.  Hopefully two more years and it's AZ here we come.
89A up to Flagstaff and 12 from Capital Reef down toward Zion are just two of a zillion good choices.

Boys, let him discover the Hogback or Hogridge (whatever they call it in UT) on his own.  What fun on a motorbike, eh?
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: JJ on February 03, 2019, 06:21:50 AM
He's right, but beware, I came out 3 years ago and fell in love with the whole SW and never left  :thumb:

There is no utopia...well, maybe The French Riviera...but who can afford that?!? :laugh: :grin: :sad: 

I moved to Arizona in 1980, via NY, CT, and TX.  Other than a few other short, job related stints, TX (again), NORCAL, and Germany, I eventually came back to Arizona and the great Southwest. :thumb: :cool: :smiley:  Tough act to follow if you like riding motorcycles.
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: blackbuell on February 03, 2019, 06:24:20 AM
Whatever you decide to do, make sure it includes a ride on routes 95, 24, and 12 in southern Utah. One potential problem if you plan to camp: we were traveling in that part of Utah last October and most of the campgrounds were full. We have visited all of the national parks and monuments in the region many times; all are spectacular and worth a visit. One little gem that most people bypass is Goblin Valley State Park. Have fun and keep us posted.

Jon
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: elvisboy77 on February 03, 2019, 06:43:54 PM
I likey..

Me, too!
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: elvisboy77 on February 03, 2019, 06:46:27 PM
I nice selection of rental Guzzi's, Triumphs and BMW's here.

Mike

https://eurocyclerentals.com/bikes/

Ooooh I like that!  Thanks.
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: elvisboy77 on February 03, 2019, 06:48:08 PM
Are you more interested in photo op scenery or in history?  That might dictate very different routes.  Its all scenic.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

Really just looking for scenic rides with my daughter.  Good point.
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: elvisboy77 on February 03, 2019, 06:50:18 PM
Thanks to everyone for the great advice.  I will sit down with my daughter and let you know how things shape up.  So exciting!
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: Rich A on February 03, 2019, 07:21:25 PM
If you're going to go thru Santa Fe, stop by!

Rich
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: elvisboy77 on February 03, 2019, 09:16:40 PM
If you're going to go thru Santa Fe, stop by!

Rich

Thanks!  I will make a note to message you when we have our plans set. 
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 04, 2019, 06:54:16 AM
Really just looking for scenic rides with my daughter.  Good point.

Ok, in that case, don't miss 12. That one gets my vote as most scenic road in America.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: rocker59 on February 04, 2019, 07:46:59 AM

I'd fly into Las Vegas Nevada and rent a Harley from there.

Then you can run an oblong loop through southern Utah and northern Arizona.

https://goo.gl/maps/a5uQN1iPhaq



Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 04, 2019, 09:42:41 AM
I'd fly into Las Vegas Nevada and rent a Harley from there.

Then you can run an oblong loop through southern Utah and northern Arizona.

https://goo.gl/maps/a5uQN1iPhaq

I did that many years ago when Dorcia had a conference in Vegas. I fully realize that Harleys are *much* better than they were then, but I thought that Softtail was the poorest excuse for a motorcycle I'd ever ridden on a curvy road at that time.  :evil:
Probably a new Softtail would be good for that trip. <shrug>
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: kballowe on February 04, 2019, 10:28:17 AM
We fly and rent once or twice a year and normally try to get a Heritage Softail at a Harley dealer.  They handle pretty decent for a cruiser style bike and have lots of luggage space.  Helpful hint:  If ya rent one, stop at the nearest air station and run the tire pressures up to 40 PSI.

We have not had good luck with Eagle Rider.



Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: PBS on February 05, 2019, 11:30:19 PM
181 in eastern Arizona is pretty special too. Morenci to Alpine.
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: JJ on February 06, 2019, 07:40:43 AM
181 in eastern Arizona is pretty special too. Morenci to Alpine.

...and the road leading to southeastern AZ, including Tucson, Bisbee, Tombstone, Sonoita, Ft. Huachucca, Tubac, Green Valley, Sierra Vista, Douglas,  are also very historic and very scenic, especially in the springtime!


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Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: Sheepdog on February 06, 2019, 08:14:08 AM
New Mexico Highway 15 from Silver City to the Gila Cliff Dwellings is one of the most extraordinary roads I've ridden. Light traffic, lots of turns, and incredible vistas. Hiking the Cliff Dwellings is pretty awesome, too.
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: rocker59 on February 06, 2019, 08:52:15 AM
181 in eastern Arizona is pretty special too. Morenci to Alpine.

I think you mean US-191.

https://goo.gl/maps/FqgDxuciCGT2
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: kingoffleece on February 06, 2019, 09:58:56 AM
There was a real nice story about SE AZ in the last issue of Rider IIRC.
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: blackbuell on February 06, 2019, 12:46:28 PM
191 in AZ IS a great MC road, but it was even more exciting when it was route 666 40 years ago before they straightened a bit.

Jon
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: Guzzi Gal on February 06, 2019, 02:09:45 PM
If you swing through Phoenix you can hit Tortilla Flat, Bartlett Lake for nice day rides or South Mountain for a quicky twisty.  I also have a casita with a lumpy futon available. 
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: JJ on February 06, 2019, 02:27:07 PM
If you swing through Phoenix you can hit Tortilla Flat, Bartlett Lake for nice day rides or South Mountain for a quicky twisty.  I also have a casita with a lumpy futon available.

The Lumpy Futon!!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :huh: :huh: :huh: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: rocker59 on February 06, 2019, 02:57:06 PM
There was a real nice story about SE AZ in the last issue of Rider IIRC.

I first learned of the road from a great story in Rider Magazine, back in the mid-1990s.

A rider eastbound from Tucson on I-10 decided at the last minute to grab US-191 to get him up to I-40.

It was nearing sunset.  He had never been on the road before.  He spent many dark hours transiting the road to get to its north end.

I wish I'd kept that issue.  The story was a good 'un.
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: redhawk47 on February 07, 2019, 09:51:23 PM
I'd fly into Las Vegas Nevada and rent a Harley from there.

Then you can run an oblong loop through southern Utah and northern Arizona.

https://goo.gl/maps/a5uQN1iPhaq
This route is excellent and is one of the best in Utah. I recommend a side trip from Boulder: east on Burr Trail until the pavement ends, and back.
Title: Re: Southwest US trip- advice needed
Post by: rocker59 on February 08, 2019, 10:22:06 AM
This route is excellent and is one of the best in Utah. I recommend a side trip from Boulder: east on Burr Trail until the pavement ends, and back.

Yes.  Burr Trail is fantastic.  And, there are a couple good places to eat in Boulder. I haven't stayed there, but it would probably be a good place to stay when passing through.  Nice little place.

In 2005, I ran the entire Burr Trail from Bullfrog Marina to Boulder.  Kind of sandy in The Water Pocket Fold, and the switchbacks were fun.  They've extended the pavement eastward from Boulder since I was there last.  It would be an awesome side trip to run out and back on the paved section.