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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: John A on February 12, 2019, 09:39:38 AM
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I'm looking for a new drill / driver . Recommendations?
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Great timing John, I just ordered another set of batteries for my 12 volt 22 year old Bosch . I don't think you can go wrong with any of the major brands, some just feel better in your hand. Head to home depot and try 'em all.
Paul B :boozing:
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Bought a Bauer unit from HFT. 20v.
It feels really good in my hand, seems like a real upgrade to the usual HFT stuff.
Very powerful, charge lasts a long time.
Time will tell.
worth a look.
kjf
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I just had the battery repacked in my Panasonic. 15.6 V. I've had it somewhere between 15 and 20 years. They make a good drill.
-AJ
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Hard to beat the Ryobi stuff for the $. Lots of tools use same 18v battery!
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I'd buy Milwaukee if you are a hard user (My work is a LARGE contractor and that is all we supply)
Dewalt has been my go-to at home, but the quality hasn't been as good as it used to
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I have all Ryobi gear, saws, drills, weed trimmer, even a light. 18V +one lithium batteries used in all. Very handy. Had it for many years. No complaints.
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I have an older version of this drill for heavy duty work around the house. I've had it for over 10 years and hasn't let me down yet.
(https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/ocsmedia/optimized/630/HD182_Hero_11.png)
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Bosch for me. Very nice teasing throttle, repeatable torque. The battery will last longer than it takes to charge another one, so no down time.
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John, do want a drill/driver or an impact driver?
Charlie linked an impact driver. Very handy tool, but if your only using it to drill a hole and drive a screw, get a drill/driver IMHO. When I brought up the link, in the side panel was the drill/driver version.
I was looking at this impact and was ready to buy. But, my friend gave me a DeWalt 12V impact driver that he didn't use anymore. It works, but my 18V Chicago from HF has alot more torque.
If you go the impact style, hex shank drill bits can be had that lock in to the impact just like the screwdriver bits do. If I'm drilling alot of hole, Id rather have a drill than my impact.
Good luck with your choice!
Tom
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My favorite. Stanley 803.
(http://www.findmytool.co.uk/images/old/drilling/drills/stanley/803/large1.jpg)
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Ryobi. Very good battery life, many choices. Dependable. Choosing the right one is the hard part. My brother has several versions and accessories. I have the 2 speed, hammer version. Great for driving screw, high torque or drilling, high speed.
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My favorite. Stanley 803.
(http://www.findmytool.co.uk/images/old/drilling/drills/stanley/803/large1.jpg)
:bow:
That will outlast everything else mentioned , along with all of us.....
kjf
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I purchased this big boy for $50 delivered...I see the price is higher now. I used it for drilling thru rocks. https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200711909_200711909?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Power%20Tools%20%3E%20Drills%20%2B%20Accessories&utm_campaign=Ironton&utm_content=61471&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-onjBRDSARIsAEZXcKZ25Wp-YNc9_OMmiat_Ix-nvyTLrobPlmTg3TykvIHiBMlJmHTHGBEaAmD1EALw_wcB
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I used it for drilling thru rocks.
You have too much time on your hands, JU.. :grin:
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If you read reviews, quality of construction on the models. Milwaukee is tops then down from there. Dewault is better than most with higher quality bearings instead of plastic bushings etc. I bought a large kit of Dewault 20v lithium tools and built 3 large decks and did a bunch of electrical work last summer without a hitch. Amazing how much power that 6 1/2 circular saw has. I cut a LOT of pressure treated 2x10' sand 5/4 decking with it last year. I even bought an adapter that allows me to use my 20v lithium batteries in my older Dewault 18v NiCad drill. Works the trick.
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Makita, Milwaukee, Ryobi, they're all hecho en China these days. DeWalt is assembled in the USA, for what that's worth. I have had very good luck with Makita and Dewalt cordless drills and drivers. The lithium batteries on the newer stuff last longer and charge quicker than the old style batteries. I think it's a waste of money to buy anything stronger than 18 volts. If you need more power than that, use a tool with a cord. YMMV.
Larry
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I'm looking for a small driver/drill. The type that accept a 1/4" bit. The batteries are the expensive part. I like Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee . Are there any to stay away from?
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Sounds like your leaning towards something of this nature.....https://www.cpooutlets.com/bosch-ps32-02-12v-max-lithium-ion-3-8-in--brushless-drill-driver-kit/bshnps32-02,default,pd.html (https://www.cpooutlets.com/bosch-ps32-02-12v-max-lithium-ion-3-8-in--brushless-drill-driver-kit/bshnps32-02,default,pd.html)
I think all the mfgrs make something similar.
Paul B :boozing:
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I'm looking for a small driver/drill. The type that accept a 1/4" bit. The batteries are the expensive part. I like Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee . Are there any to stay away from?
I have 2 Dewalts.....one 12volt and one 14volt, and both work great with no problems at all. I would buy Dewalt again in a heartbeat.
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All Milwaukee stuff for me...
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you're getting a wide range of replies, some for some pretty beefy gear. You OP suggest you want to drill some holes and drives some screws. The bigger impact tools may be overkill.
I have 20 guys who run cordless drills full time 40 - 50 hours a week. Been doing this now for about 25 years. What we've come to depend on is the Milwaukee 18v stuff available off the shelf at Home Depot. this is what we use as we need the impact feature. It's available without as well. Very small and well balanced. Even has a cool little headlight. These have far outlasted the competition in our applications
here it is at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-2753-22CT-Cordless-Li-Ion-Impact/dp/B07F22GWGX/ref=asc_df_B07F22GWGX/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309802506143&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12454859592885642748&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016174&hvtargid=pla-606086691107&psc=1
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I'm looking for a small driver/drill. The type that accept a 1/4" bit. The batteries are the expensive part. I like Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee . Are there any to stay away from?
Stay away from all of them. The batteries are always the expensive part. That's the name of the manufacturers' game and the source of their profits. Like "giving away razors to sell blades."
Honestly, for almost any job involving small bits I find it faster and more convenient to grab the hand-cranked Stanley 803 drill off the wall bracket and just do it. Your arm is plenty powerful for drilling small holes!! You can recharge it by eating another doughnut, which is much more fun.
Why be a sucker to the battery industry? I have escaped the life-long drama of buying yet another "better" battery-powered drill, buying more batteries for it, and ultimately throwing away the whole kit and caboodle to buy the next generation "better" drill. Then repeat for as long as you last.
Though the Stanley 803 is discontinued, they are available used, and live forever. Buy quality and never replace it. Similar-looking drills (including a Stanley) are on Amazon, but reviews indicate they are not the same quality. On ebay you can find seven Stanley 803's listed right now. Here is a very nice looking example you can get delivered to your house for about $30 total, which is less than I paid for mine, new, in 1992:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-STANLEY-No-03-803-Double-Pinon-Eggbeater-Drill-Made-in-England/273660381023?epid=5022971920&hash=item3fb76e075f:g:khgAAOSwCXxcP9jl:rk:4:pf:0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-STANLEY-No-03-803-Double-Pinon-Eggbeater-Drill-Made-in-England/273660381023?epid=5022971920&hash=item3fb76e075f:g:khgAAOSwCXxcP9jl:rk:4:pf:0)
If you're going to build a series of decks in the back yard, buy a contractor-grade, battery-powered drill. If you're not, don't.
Moto
[EDIT: Looking more closely at that ebay drill, I would opt for one in better superficial condition. I'm sure it is perfectly functional, though. Just needs oil. My own drill looks nearly new after nearly three decades of use.]
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I'm looking for a small driver/drill. The type that accept a 1/4" bit. The batteries are the expensive part. I like Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee . Are there any to stay away from?
I'm sure you already know this...Generally a drill driver uses a key less chuck like found on many corded drills and can use either 1/4" drive hex shank or round shank drill bits. An impact drill/driver type usually has the Power Drive type hex quick change lock in style chuck. Both styles will use the 1/4" hex bits. To make the drill a quick change you just need the magnetic bit holder like this:
https://www.harborfreight.com/2-78-in-magnetic-bit-holder-62692.html
For batteries, check fleabay. just enter the model of the battery and you'll find generic batteries at about half the price of the Mfg's brand.
Good luck!
Tom