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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: britman on February 28, 2019, 05:00:29 AM
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I am pulling out in the morning to drive 1400 miles round trip to pick up a 1967 Honda CL77 305 Scrambler. Eight thousand on the clock, two documented owners since being purchased new in Ashland Kentucky, clean title. Don't let the description fool you, rough as a cob, but mostly all there. Going to need a lot of lipstick for this little piggy....
Calling for snow, Wife has a horrible cold on top of being to PO'ed about another addition to the herd, back is half out from pulling the trailer out of the back yard mud, garage is already overflowing from my regular riders and a CL350 project, and one of my cats has a tooth that has to come out, but dammit, I have never been happier.......
I sometimes sincerely think it would be much easier to be addicted to crack than motorcycles....
Wish me luck....
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Well, you have some good news due.
Bring her home :wink:
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Have fun storming the castle...
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Music for the event :grin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viYfWqSECAk
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"Road Trip!!" - CONGRATS and good for you! A few photos for inspiration! :thumb: :smiley: :cool:
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Calling for snow, Wife has a horrible cold on top of being to PO'ed about another addition to the herd, back is half out from pulling the trailer out of the back yard mud, garage is already overflowing from my regular riders and a CL350 project, and one of my cats has a tooth that has to come out, but dammit, I have never been happier.......
Wish me luck....
Sounds perfect. You're 100% in Man Territory.
Good luck!
Lannis
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You live in a perfect world, you take a vacation and bring back a bike. Winner :boozing:
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My high school science teacher rode a CL77...complete with "Snuffers."
https://www.cycleworld.com/2011/03/24/to-snuff-or-not-to-snuff-by-steven-l-thompson
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great looking bike. i have owned 2 cl77's over the years and i really wish i had kept one. lots of fond memories of that bike. unique sound. the exhaust noise was generally 'enhanced' by one of 3 methods: removing the internal baffles and cutting off one section - reinsert, installing snaufernots (basically a large washer welded to an adjustment screw which sat on the outermost lip of the exhaust pipes), just removing all baffles entirely.
the prices on these things have gone up absurdly here in california. a nice one is in the $ 3-4K range - yipes. i sold my last one over 20 years ago for $300.
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Have you considered a fly and ride?
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He said the bike is in rough shape if low mileage... so I doubt it's road-worthy, that being one of the defining parts of a fly-n-ride...
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Had one of those. The primary chain broke at speed. Balled up in the side cover and locked up the rear wheel.
Exciting I guess you could call it.
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Had one of those. The primary chain broke at speed. Balled up in the side cover and locked up the rear wheel.
Exciting I guess you could call it.
yipes! that'll wake you up. the only thing i recall about drive chains with those things was that you could not use an O-ring chain because they are wider than a non-O-ring chain and that extra width will wear a hole in your case.
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awesome
safe travels...I have a few in the garage....a 73 CL 360 and a 72 CB 450...great bikes
lets see the photos when you pick it up
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The bike and I pulled in this afternoon, I am pretty sure a good waxing should take care of most of the imperfections. I am looking forward to starting this one since it is for my own collection. It is rough, but all is there, low mileage, great compression, clean title and the most perfect set of pipes and muffler for a 305 I have ever seen. I am not sure about the tail light since I have never seen one this large on a CL77, but there are no extra fender holes and cut out matches the grab perfectly. The seller also threw in the almost new lift since he not doing motorcycles anymore, he has his fun rebuilding Shoe Box Chevys, over 20 in his collection. This one is going to take awhile and a lot more mad money, parts for 305 Scramblers are somewhat rare and damn expensive, but it will be done right. This was the bike to have when I graduated High School in 1967......
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The seat and the tail light are jarring :shocked: It is kinda strange to see one with the stock exhaust system intact :thumb:
Dusty
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Nice Laverda.. :boozing: :smiley:
Good find. :thumb:
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Here is one restored by Randy's Cycles. Your taillight is from a later model...
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The tail light looks to be from an SL 350.
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Where in the hell have you been all my life???? The old back is going to feel much better......
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This is the last one I sold a few years back. It was much rougher than this one to begin with, I knew I should have kept one.....
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Looks great in red/silver! The taillights and mufflers were “wheelie-bait.” Everyone who had one back in the day had Snuffers and a broken taillight lense.
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Lots of interesting discoveries on the CL77 so far, (ie) condenser wires ran to wrong side coils, simple wrong fix cross the plug wires. Some of the wiring involved lamp cord and wire nuts, when the shift rod splines became worn, easy fix, braze the shift pedal to the end of the rod. The previous owners apparently were not real big into preventive maintenance or apparently never possessed an owners manual. I will bet hard cash the oil slinger had not seen human touch since 1967. Honda contributed too, lets change from JIS thread pitch on main jets in the the middle of the three year run, best of luck on the correct carb rebuild kits. There are different seat attaching points, tail light brackets, and exhaust systems, all in the three year run this bike was produced.
All that being said, the damn thing went around the block today, and it runs good even with eyeball synced carbs and no air filters. After a complete rewire, setting the points, valve lash, and timing, installing rebuilt carbs with right jets finally, it fired on the fourth kick. No blue oil smoke and it will start every time with one or two kicks. The charging system even works as much as can be expected. My initial goal has been achieved, check the condition of the engine before starting to make it pretty. A number of parts have been collected, correct tail light, actual OEM horn that fits in the headlight bucket, complete uncut front fender and stay, skid plate, and other bits here and there. Parts are rare and damn expensive but I check Flea Bay daily. The next step will be complete tear down, for cleaning and paint. It is always a good feeling when you hear one come back to life......
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Most excellent saga Britman but I gotta ask......how's the cat? :evil:
Paul B :boozing:
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I have three of those CL77's, two with titles. And enough spare parts to almost build a fourth. They can be a bit addicting. The red frame version is what I decided I wanted for my first vintage bike. It started a fun but addictive habit.
TDF
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Most excellent saga Britman but I gotta ask......how's the cat? :evil:
Paul B :boozing:
He doesn't smile as much as he used to, but neither do I after paying the bill. I see why my Vet drives a new Porsche.....
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I 'sometimes sincerely think it would be much easier to be addicted to crack than motorcycles'....
Man can I relate ….. I sold my V7 Sport last week, money burning a hole In the pocket …..this week I saw a Ducati 860 GT advertised for sale in eastern Canada, I knew not to call but I did anyway and after a couple days of back and forth I am going to be the next owner of a complete, running and not too shabby looking (but need of a restoration) 1st year 860 - single disc kick-start bevel.
For years I have had a personal "No Ducati Rule' … but rules are meant to be broken :evil:
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..this week I saw a Ducati 860 GT advertised for sale in eastern Canada, I knew not to call but I did anyway and after a couple days of back and forth I am going to be the next owner of a complete, running and not too shabby looking (but need of a restoration) 1st year
OOOHHH boy, another restoration a'comin up. :thumb: :grin:
Anyway Jim, the cutout is about done and winter still lurks. Gotta have something to do. :wink: :grin: :grin:
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Candidate for a Cagiva!!! Long live the Pantah!
OOOHHH boy, another restoration a'comin up. :thumb: :grin:
Anyway Jim, the cutout is about done and winter still lurks. Gotta have something to do. :wink: :grin: :grin:
I 'sometimes sincerely think it would be much easier to be addicted to crack than motorcycles'....
Man can I relate ….. I sold my V7 Sport last week, money burning a hole In the pocket …..this week I saw a Ducati 860 GT advertised for sale in eastern Canada, I knew not to call but I did anyway and after a couple days of back and forth I am going to be the next owner of a complete, running and not too shabby looking (but need of a restoration) 1st year 860 - single disc kick-start bevel.
For years I have had a personal "No Ducati Rule' … but rules are meant to be broken :evil:
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I really really hate upholstery, so it was with great pleasure that I checked covering that ugly arse overstuffed seat off of the "To Do" list this afternoon. There was quite a bit of rust under the padding, and I had to make new cover catch prongs out of an old motorcycle license plate, but the dirty deed is done. Now on to paint, that is a hell of a lot more fun........
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I see you have the dreaded oxidation creeping underneath the paint on the engine.
On one of the little C100's we had I carefully got a basin of water and wet sanded all the paint off, then polished it. Made it easier to keep clean, a spray with an alkaline truck underbody, cleaner, hose off and it was back to brand new again.
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Britman you haven’t said much about the lift, it looks similar to the affordable Harbor Freight lift, but your wheel chuck and ramp are different. What kind of lift is it? My wife and daughters refer to mine as the altar, since even when I’m not working on a bike, there is always a bike on it, And sometimes I even sit with a beer in hand just admiring the current occupant. The lift is an essential tool for any one older than 20, IMO.
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Britman you haven’t said much about the lift, it looks similar to the affordable Harbor Freight lift, but your wheel chuck and ramp are different. What kind of lift is it? My wife and daughters refer to mine as the altar, since even when I’m not working on a bike, there is always a bike on it, And sometimes I even sit with a beer in hand just admiring the current occupant. The lift is an essential tool for any one older than 20, IMO.
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The previous owner said it came from Harbor Freight and I have haven't seen any markings otherwise. I do know, I will never be without one again, what a lifesaver when it comes to a 70 year old back. After today however, it is holding parts and a lot of them since it was tag and bag day with a complete teardown. I hope I can read the bags when it comes to re-assembly in the coming months. I also took a ton of pictures, the memory matches the back..........
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A little red is starting to show up here and there.......Still trying to locate the right shade of silver.......
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Got me a roller...... Engine detailed......That light at the end of the tunnel is starting to flicker........
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Lookin' good. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Motor in. Weighs 122 pounds, damn thing felt twice that or either I am getting old. A little silver is starting to show up. I used 2k clear for the potential gas contact with the tank paint. I still need to body work and prep the fenders for paint, install chain and dynamo cover along with the clutch cable, start the wiring from scratch, along with about two thousand other little add ons and adjustments before the first kick after the makeover. I did find that I had a pristine 1967 Virginia motorcycle license plate in my wall collection, so she will be sporting the right year tag. This project has convinced me of one thing, I am tired of rushing from one project to another with never enough time to really enjoy the process, so I am going to fully retire effective July 30th, one day before my 70th birthday. I only work part time, but having lost two Brother-in-Laws in the past 12 months, I have decided life is too damn short not to stop and smell those infamous roses. I am sure hoping it is going to result in more seat time. Trips may be shorter, but there is going to be more of them.......
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Starting to look more like a motorcycle little by little. Finished up all the wiring today and everything concerning illumination works down to the last dash light. I will have to say, stringing copper is my favorite thing concerning bringing one back, nothing like getting lost in a tangle of wires, the troubles of the world disappear......
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*Very* nice. Attaboy.. :thumb:
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A little corn free in the tank this morning, final walk around and leak check, fired on the second kick. Yep it does smoke a little and there a couple of final little issues to address, missed a leaking fork seal and a damn finicky petcock, but the "Old Girl" runs pretty well. I will hit the DMV this week for some antique plates and the first stop will be the Friday nite Cruise In at the local Dairy Queen..... Thanks one and all for the interest and hope everyone has a safe 4th.....
George
A couple of "Glamor Shots" after the pig has been lipsticked.......
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Great job britman :thumb: I was restoring an old Honda generator and the petcock on it had corroded badly, but I was able to find a couple guy's on ebay selling replacement parts and seals. A lot of Honda parts cross between several models.
Paul B :boozing:
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I see you have the dreaded oxidation creeping underneath the paint on the engine.
That's the heartbreak of intergranular exfoliation. :grin:
That is some nice looking work
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Fine job, Britman — I lusted for that model back in the day.
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A fine looking machine there Britman. :thumb:
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This is not a criticism. Just curious. Never ridden one of these.
So what’s the attraction for this particular bike such that you would go 1,400 miles to get one and then restore it? One of the first bikes you ever rode? Wanted to buy one back in your youth but couldn’t afford it then? Just a sweet little machine?
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A fine labor of love there! Hats off to you on the great work! A 305 Scrambler has been on my list for many years. I came close once or twice but never consummated a deal.
There is something special about the 305 S . Maybe because when we were kids we thought it was the coolest bike. All of us wanted 305 Scramblers. Being 12 years old with a 50 cent a week allowance only allowed the dream.
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Some bikes just appeal to you inner being, the Honda 305 Scrambler is mine. Yep, it was the bike to have when I graduated High School in 1967. I did manage to buy a "wanna be" 160 Scrambler because I just couldn't swing the funds for a full 305. Something about the lines and sound when you open up the SnufforNots, that floats my boat. Going to park in the garage with the rest that don't get ridden nearly enough, what can I say but dammit I got my 305........
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Some bikes just appeal to you inner being, the Honda 305 Scrambler is mine.
I've told the story several times about the guy I met in Mid Ohio that rode in from Baltimore on a 305 Superhawk, same vintage as this Scrambler, who estimated that he had over $30,000 in his, but it was perfect, both as a runner and looker, and was his "forever" bike .... so the appeal is not just local to you!
Lannis