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Title: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: oranges3 on February 18, 2015, 04:31:54 PM
If you could get a part made that has not been available in a long time, what would it be?

Example: a low cost gas tank made in aluminum or steel for a v11 sport/lemans?
How about a carbon fiber hugger or bikini fairing like on v11 café sport?
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Post by: sdcr on February 18, 2015, 04:54:22 PM
How about those nice, cast alloy foot peg holders that were on the 80's Moto Guzzi SP models as well as the Le Mans III.

 I cringe to think how I would replace these unobtanium parts if the need arose!


John


83 Le Mans III
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Post by: wrbix on February 18, 2015, 04:54:57 PM
Pyramidal "Euro" front turn indicators for LeMans IV and Lario.
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Post by: Nic in Western NYS on February 18, 2015, 05:17:25 PM
The beautiful billet dipstick I had for my Sport 1100.  If anyone knows of one that would be useful for a Breva, let me know.
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Post by: Lee Bruns on February 18, 2015, 05:50:01 PM
I'd like to see someone repop the Eldo gas tanks. Price on those has gone nuts. BUT you did hit on the hang up, no one wants to pay what it would cost to tool up for small batches of obsolete parts.
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Post by: Dean Rose on February 18, 2015, 05:52:36 PM
The beautiful billet dipstick I had for my Sport 1100.  If anyone knows of one that would be useful for a Breva, let me know.


Harpers


Dean
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Post by: oldbike54 on February 18, 2015, 06:05:42 PM
 Those beautiful looper instrument nacelles .

  Dusty
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Post by: fotoguzzi on February 18, 2015, 06:07:25 PM
all the parts of the 1980 CONVERT brand new..
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Post by: Green1000S on February 18, 2015, 06:14:15 PM
Skid plate for my Quota.
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Post by: rodekyll on February 18, 2015, 06:17:16 PM
all the parts of the 1980 CONVERT brand new..

+1

Also the really nice Nolan tonti lowers that fit in the square crashbar and the tonti solo saddle.
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Post by: canuck750 on February 18, 2015, 08:26:27 PM
V7 Sport solenoid fuel valve
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Post by: RinkRat II on February 18, 2015, 11:04:58 PM
35 Year old Blue Eyed,Blonde Haired Virgin 38 24 36 Non Silicone Vintage ~; ~;

     Paul :BEER:
Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: Matt on February 18, 2015, 11:20:31 PM
How about those nice, cast alloy foot peg holders that were on the 80's Moto Guzzi SP models as well as the Le Mans III.

 I cringe to think how I would replace these unobtanium parts if the need arose!


John


83 Le Mans III

A box, in the rafters...better investment than the stock market.
Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: Two Checks on February 19, 2015, 05:00:26 AM
1990 Cal III fairing and frame hider inserts.
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Post by: sdcr on February 19, 2015, 05:31:24 AM
A box, in the rafters...better investment than the stock market.

So....you have a box of these?  Tell us more!

John

83 Le Mans III
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Post by: blackcat on February 19, 2015, 07:34:29 AM
1000S stock seat.
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Post by: lrutt on February 19, 2015, 07:43:53 AM
Bub pipes for my 77 Lemans

Better yet, my whole Lemans.
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Post by: Dean Rose on February 19, 2015, 08:14:52 AM
Mine

Dean
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Post by: AJ Huff on February 19, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Nolan fenders for Loops.

Buco bags.

-AJ
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Post by: mtiberio on February 19, 2015, 09:54:19 AM
Bub Conti Replicas
marzocchi "strada" bolt on 38mm forks for Lemans I or III
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Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 19, 2015, 10:23:09 AM
Lots of Loop stuff. Early battery covers, fenders (stainless this time would be nice), tanks as Lee mentioned, front fender braces for all of the variations (disc and drum), less expensive bearing/disc carriers than what Moe offers, oil pump for the gear drive engines. Probably more I can't think of right now.
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Post by: Orange Guzzi on February 19, 2015, 10:29:33 AM
So....you have a box of these?  Tell us more!

John

83 Le Mans III

These parts can be reproduced at a foundry with the original as a pattern. 
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Post by: rocker59 on February 19, 2015, 10:32:49 AM
Skid plate for my Quota.

Yep

(http://www.epfguzzi.com/models/sabl7.jpg)
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Post by: WP2 on February 19, 2015, 11:14:12 AM
Bar Risers for the "fat bars" that I have on my '02 Stone and '03 EV-T
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Post by: twhitaker on February 19, 2015, 12:22:31 PM
Tubed tires.  ::) All I can find now for my California are tubeless.
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Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 19, 2015, 12:31:20 PM
If anyone is wishing for the rubber intake elbows as on round-fin 949 cc bikes such as the SP and G5, I'm working on having them reproduced.
Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: oldbike54 on February 19, 2015, 12:34:11 PM
35 Year old Blue Eyed,Blonde Haired Virgin 38 24 36 Non Silicone Vintage ~; ~;

     Paul :BEER:

 Don't think they EVER made those , at least never imported to the states  :D

  Dusty
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Post by: Groover on February 19, 2015, 12:38:05 PM
Stock OEM Mufflers for G5, Convert, 850T3
Stock OEM Seat for G5, Convert (The ones used on '81, which have a higher peak on the tail end)
Stock OEM Magneti Marelli Oil Filled 12v Coils
Stock OEM Headlight for G5, Convert (with deep chrome ring)
Stock OEM Floorboards and footpegs, for G5, Convert, 850T3.
Stock OEM Lock and Folding Keys for ignition Switch and Tank Lids.

And everything else for the G5, Convert too, might as well  ;D

I hope Santa Guzzi will see this thread and put the elves to work. Be nice everyone!

Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: oranges3 on February 19, 2015, 12:57:21 PM
Jus for starters... how about a v11 tank in aluminum or steel to replace the bubbling plastic tanks?
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Post by: blackcat on February 19, 2015, 01:51:27 PM
Jus for starters... how about a v11 tank in aluminum or steel to replace the bubbling plastic tanks?


I think that Evan Willcox has done a tank for the V11. I believe that the Tank Shop has one too but not exactly the same.
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Post by: Groover on February 19, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
All badges for all models.
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Post by: NCAmother on February 19, 2015, 02:57:58 PM
LeMans straight cut close ratio transmission
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Post by: keuka4884 on February 19, 2015, 04:18:34 PM
1.1 kg return springs for VHB carbs.
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Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 19, 2015, 04:19:57 PM
Stock OEM Mufflers for G5, Convert, 850T3

Wish granted, top of the page here: http://www.motostoricheitaliane.com/EN/guzzi-1.html
Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: Groover on February 20, 2015, 10:39:02 AM
Wish granted, top of the page here: http://www.motostoricheitaliane.com/EN/guzzi-1.html

I guess I should have said "CHEAP Stock OEM Mufflers for G5, Convert, 850T3"

There goes one of my wishes.  ;)

(Thanks for linking!)

Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 20, 2015, 11:29:00 AM
I guess I should have said "CHEAP Stock OEM Mufflers for G5, Convert, 850T3"

There goes one of my wishes.  ;)

(Thanks for linking!)



They're probably "cheap" (made), just like the originals. Seams that rust, none too thick metal and typical Italian chrome. Too quiet (even for me) and rather restrictive.
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Post by: ritratto on February 20, 2015, 06:32:57 PM
Headlights ears for V7 Sport and the like!
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Post by: Cam3512 on February 20, 2015, 07:30:48 PM
1.1 kg return springs for VHB carbs.

Oh yea. The "middle" weight spring.  I'm pretty sure I found the last four pair on the planet a few years ago - and I searched long and hard.   A small shop over in England had them.  Still sitting on two pair.
Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: Lee Bruns on February 21, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
cheap cheap cheap, I want gold, but I want it cheap, chea cheap cheap I want small batch parts, for off rband bikes, but cheap My time is worth everything yours os worth nothing My skills have value, yours should be free, Why won't anyone make cheap high quality for my bike and do it for less than the cost of materials? Cheap cheap cheap
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Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 21, 2015, 01:04:34 PM
cheap cheap cheap, I want gold, but I want it cheap, chea cheap cheap I want small batch parts, for off rband bikes, but cheap My time is worth everything yours os worth nothing My skills have value, yours should be free, Why won't anyone make cheap high quality for my bike and do it for less than the cost of materials? Cheap cheap cheap

Here's one I just thought of: 4 spd., 4th gear bushing. Used my last new one in a customer's trans. today, don't seem to be available anywhere. Interested in making a batch, Lee? Looks like this:

(http://www.stein-dinse.biz/images/product_images/popup_images/12215302.jpg)

Last they were available, the cost was $95.
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Post by: Lee Bruns on February 21, 2015, 01:37:52 PM
looks pretty straight forward. Can you pm me some dimensions and tolerances?
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Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 21, 2015, 03:52:55 PM
looks pretty straight forward. Can you pm me some dimensions and tolerances?

Will do, when I get a chance.
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Post by: keuka4884 on February 21, 2015, 04:22:26 PM
Cam

Finding those springs would be like finding a few boards of Cuban mahogany. I have looked at every Dellorto and Guzzi parts site for them to no avail. If you should want to part with a set sometime before I mount the PHF 30's I'll put you in my will and on my Christmas card list. You'd even get an invitation to my daughter's wedding in September at Heron Hill winery.

They also made .8 kg springs but I have read that the 1.1 kg variety is the lightest they should be.

I have googled 850 T3 for articles and reviews on it and come across MANY riders whose only complaint with the bike is those nasty, heavy springs.
 
One last try. Does anyone know a person who makes springs?
Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 21, 2015, 04:29:47 PM
If you should want to part with a set sometime before I mount the PHF 30's I'll put you in my will and on my Christmas card list. You'd even get an invitation to my daughter's wedding in September at Heron Hill winery.

They also made .8 kg springs but I have read that the 1.1 kg variety is the lightest they should be.

The springs Cam has are for Dellorto VHBs, so if you're using PHFs they won't work. Guzzino has three different weight of PHF springs: http://guzzino.com/thspphfphm30.html
Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: mtiberio on March 05, 2015, 08:23:30 PM
how about the plastic sleeves that go between the 30mm VHB carbs and the manifolds on 850Ts, T3s, SPs, Converts, etc...
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Post by: mwrenn on March 05, 2015, 11:30:51 PM
Four Valve Lario and V75 small block heads.  With good valves this time!!! Lol
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Post by: Triple Jim on March 05, 2015, 11:46:01 PM
The springs Cam has are for Dellorto VHBs, so if you're using PHFs they won't work. Guzzino has three different weight of PHF springs: http://guzzino.com/thspphfphm30.html

Yes.  I happened to get my PHF springs from Bevel Heaven.  They're the lightest of the three, and are exactly what I was looking for.  No sticking slides, and no tired wrist.  I have no idea why they weren't standard on Guzzis.
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Post by: frans belgium on March 06, 2015, 04:50:56 AM
Mine

Dean

 ;D

My first reaction, too.
Especially private ones, at 60+, upgrades are welcome   ;D
Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 06, 2015, 09:28:21 AM
how about the plastic sleeves that go between the 30mm VHB carbs and the manifolds on 850Ts, T3s, SPs, Converts, etc...

I've machined some out of Delrin for a customer, but it was time consuming for an amateur machinist like me with an old worn out lathe.
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Post by: mtiberio on March 06, 2015, 09:35:24 AM
I've machined some out of Delrin for a customer, but it was time consuming for an amateur machinist like me with an old worn out lathe.

better we learn to 3-D print them...
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Post by: cruzziguzzi on March 06, 2015, 09:38:36 AM
Any aftermarket wheels for my 95 Spot.

One of those passenger seat replacement filler panel things would be nice for the same.

While I'm dreaming: a "Euro" fairing and headlight too!

Todd.
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Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 06, 2015, 09:42:18 AM
better we learn to 3-D print them...


I'll continue to just make them when needed, but if there was enough demand, I could have a local machinist whip out a 100 or so...
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Post by: Triple Jim on March 06, 2015, 10:04:20 AM
better we learn to 3-D print them...

Anyone have a  photo?

Edit:  I found a thread on it:  http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 (http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0)   What does this part actually do?  Does it take much load, or is it just a spacer?  If I can get the dimensions, I can 3-D print them.

2nd edit:  From the photo at the bottom of that thread, it looks like a 3-D printed version would work fine.   Does this sound correct?  I can get my son to print a couple Nylon ones in a matter of days is anyone is interested in trying them.
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Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 06, 2015, 10:15:57 AM
Anyone have a  photo?

Edit:  I found a thread on it:  http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 (http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0)   What does this part actually do?  Does it take much load, or is it just a spacer?  If I can get the dimensions, I can 3-D print them.

It's mostly for heat isolation and to seal the carb body to the manifold. Load? The weight of the carburetor.

The issue I had with machining them is that if the o.d. was made to the specified 40 mm, when it was installed in the carb body, the i.d. ended up smaller than 37 mm and it wouldn't go on the manifold. I had to "fudge" the o.d. to get the required i.d.  

After digging around in my stash recently, I found a n-o-s original which could be used as a pattern.
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Post by: Triple Jim on March 06, 2015, 10:27:17 AM
It sounds like the best way to have a chance of good printed parts is to get a carburetor body, plastic spacer, and "manifold" in hand.  Then I can try the fit of the printed parts and make slight adjustments until they fit correctly.  I'll get it done if someone is able to loan me the parts, which I'll return promptly.
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Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 06, 2015, 10:36:48 AM
It sounds like the best way to have a chance of good printed parts is to get a carburetor body, plastic spacer, and "manifold" in hand.  Then I can try the fit of the printed parts and make slight adjustments until they fit correctly.  I'll get it done if someone is able to loan me the parts, which I'll return promptly.

I have the plastic spacer, but no VHB30 or manifold.
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Post by: Sheepdog on March 06, 2015, 12:15:08 PM
Affordable (<$2,000) cast or tubeless wire wheels for injected Californias. I realize that I can cob something together from used parts, but I would appreciate a specialist putting something together with new components...
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Post by: mtiberio on March 06, 2015, 04:51:42 PM
I have all the parts (one good sleeve, manifold, 30mm VHB), but it is cold and my garage is snowed in, and I'm not in the mood right now to go out there and find the parts to make this happen. PM me in a few weeks with your address... FWIW, there is an oring groove on the OEM sleeve that AFAIC is totally useless. These things couldn't leak air if you wanted them to.
Title: Re: what parts do you wish were still made?
Post by: Triple Jim on March 06, 2015, 05:49:11 PM
I have all the parts (one good sleeve, manifold, 30mm VHB), but it is cold and my garage is snowed in, and I'm not in the mood right now to go out there and find the parts to make this happen. PM me in a few weeks with your address... FWIW, there is an oring groove on the OEM sleeve that AFAIC is totally useless. These things couldn't leak air if you wanted them to.

Excellent, thanks very much.  I'll do as you suggested.  If you don't hear from me, it's because I forgot, not because I lost interest.  But I'll try to leave myself some reminders.
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Post by: T in NC on March 08, 2015, 01:11:46 PM
Comfortable seat for 2002 California Special Sport.