Wildgoose Chase Moto Guzzi

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: mradtke on April 12, 2015, 03:31:38 AM

Title: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 12, 2015, 03:31:38 AM
Local shop has a 2001 California EV on consignment.
38,600 Miles.
Hard Bags
Windshield
Owner is asking $4500. I looked it up on NADA, it shows $2850 maximum. How much do you think I should offer and not offend the owner??? Seems to be in good shape. Thanks!!

Michael
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: arveno on April 12, 2015, 06:03:06 AM
it's hard to put a price n a bike without a pic . Judging by what i see on the internet the "trend" seems that a cali EV will sell for around 3.5
Hard bags increase a little bit the value.
it depends also if the recalls, if any, were done or not and if the dealer has proof of it or not.
does it need anything ? brakes,tires , clutch, was the speedo replaced ?
Try to use the search function of this forum , you will find a lot of threads in regards of EV recalls etc.

If it was me and i really liked the bike i would start with an offer of 3.5  and i will not go higher than 4 . ( i believe they will have hard time selling it at 4.5 )

As you can see prices are all over the place, but if we see these bikes for sale, means there are no buyers.... so maybe the asking price is too high ?

good luck !

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/mcy/4974890364.html

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/mcy/4974066197.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/4941927856.html

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/4927994755.html

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/mcy/4943909116.html

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/mcy/4945977232.html

http://www.themotocycleshop.com/moto_guzzi/mg_used/1998_California_V11_EV/1998_California_V11_EV.htm
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: fotoguzzi on April 12, 2015, 07:37:33 AM
$2850.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Carlo DeSantis on April 12, 2015, 08:06:29 AM
No recalls on '01 models , maybe the most reliable fuel injected Guzzi ever . $3500.00 sounfs good .

  Dusty

There was a recall for the rear wheel.  Minor issue that was more prominent in the earlier tubeless wirewheels ('98 to '00 models).

$3500 final price sounds fair for a fairly stock bike with bags and a windshield.

Carlo
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Vagrant on April 12, 2015, 08:34:15 AM
2001 is the best of the best. if it's red and  white (only for 20011) I would pay up to the asking price any other color up to $4000 if perfect. check the rear wheel while in geaR FOR PLAY. too much could be worn drive gar the only issue with 2001. if you don't want it let me know. depending on location I might.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Carlo DeSantis on April 12, 2015, 08:59:27 AM
Oops , forgot about the tubeless wheels . Still , this generation of Guzzzi was well sorted .

  Dusty

When I had the recall done, the dealer service manager told me that he hadn't seen any issues with the '01s.  I agree about that generation being well-sorted.  Mine served me well for more than 13 years and carried me coast to coast a couple of times with zero problems.  The only real issue I had was that the initial set up could have been better.  That got fixed after Jim Barron opened his Guzzi shop and clear sailing after that.

I'd still have my EV if I wasn't into codgerhood and looking for smaller and lighter bikes :)

Best,

Carlo
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: youcanrunnaked on April 12, 2015, 04:49:37 PM
If it is in good condition and needs nothing in the way of repairs or soon-to-be maintenance, a $3,500 offer is fair and $4K or less is a good deal for buyer and seller.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: rocker59 on April 12, 2015, 04:53:19 PM
  I looked it up on NADA, it shows...

NADA and KBB are notoriously inaccurate for Moto Guzzis.  Mainly because of the low numbers of them which makes it hard to establish a market.

If it's really nice, $3500 +/-

We're talking nickels and dimes, here.  What's a few hundred between Guzzisti?  Not much.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 12, 2015, 07:32:52 PM
Wow folks thanks for all the information, I intend to take it for a test ride this week. I will let you know how it turns out!! Here is a picture of it too.

Michael

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/mtradtke/Mobile%20Uploads/20150408_161619.jpg)
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Guzzidad on April 12, 2015, 08:36:37 PM

    I agree with others that the 01 EV is the best model year. I bought mine with 70K and now has 97K. I paid $3500 which included the matching trunk and Swanee fairing. Another $400 for a used set of Wilburs shocks was money well spent. Mine also came with a full Bub exhaust. I rode mine from Florida to the National Rally in Ontario a couple of years ago. Very enjoyable ride.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: krglorioso on April 12, 2015, 08:51:48 PM
Has a nice Corbin seat, too.  That's a very desirable upgrade.

Ralph
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Lannis on April 12, 2015, 08:56:12 PM
Wow folks thanks for all the information, I intend to take it for a test ride this week. I will let you know how it turns out!! Here is a picture of it too.

Michael

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/mtradtke/Mobile%20Uploads/20150408_161619.jpg)

Pretty, well equipped bike.

When you make the offer, they won't be insulted if you are standing there riffling a wad of cash rather than calling it in on the phone.   But it looks like you're already local and been fondling the bike!

Good luck!

Lannis
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 13, 2015, 02:20:17 AM
Thanks, I keep getting more excited as I think about it. Shop opens again Tuesday and it feels like Christmas morning is too far away!!!

Michael
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Aaron D. on April 13, 2015, 06:34:24 AM
I had one, and I think that one is worth the money.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on April 13, 2015, 07:11:08 AM
That looks like a nicely kept example, I love those tubeless rims ;-T

What is that faring, I need one for my EV?
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: 190 Octane on April 13, 2015, 11:13:56 AM
That looks like a nicely kept example, I love those tubeless rims ;-T

What is that faring, I need one for my EV?

Looks like a rile:http://rifle.com/Motorcycle-Windshields/Classic/Moto-Guzzi/Rifle-Classic-Windshield-Moto-Guzzi-EV1100-California-1998-.aspx (http://rifle.com/Motorcycle-Windshields/Classic/Moto-Guzzi/Rifle-Classic-Windshield-Moto-Guzzi-EV1100-California-1998-.aspx)
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Carlo DeSantis on April 13, 2015, 11:44:29 AM
Looks like a rile:http://rifle.com/Motorcycle-Windshields/Classic/Moto-Guzzi/Rifle-Classic-Windshield-Moto-Guzzi-EV1100-California-1998-.aspx (http://rifle.com/Motorcycle-Windshields/Classic/Moto-Guzzi/Rifle-Classic-Windshield-Moto-Guzzi-EV1100-California-1998-.aspx)

The mount doesn't look like the mount on the Rifle I had on my EV.  Similar style, though.  I think MG had an OEM screen in that style back then; this could be one of those.

And my advice for anyone who mounts a similar windshield is to also get a set of Rifle lowers to help reduce buffeting.  Made a huge difference on my EV.

Best,

Carlo
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: screamday on April 13, 2015, 12:24:12 PM
Wow folks thanks for all the information, I intend to take it for a test ride this week. I will let you know how it turns out!! Here is a picture of it too.

Michael

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/mtradtke/Mobile%20Uploads/20150408_161619.jpg)

Looks more like my 98 than a 2001.

Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: rocker59 on April 13, 2015, 02:39:38 PM
Looks more like my 98 than a 2001.



Visually, there is little difference.

The early 1998s had a red oval with "V11" on the side cover.   
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: BillinPA on April 13, 2015, 02:50:38 PM
Looks real nice. I have a 2001 EV in red and white. Great bike. Never regretted owning it. I bought it as a leftover in 2002. I always have several other bikes but the EV is dear to me. Mine has been through ALOT it is not as nice as the one pictured and I would have a hard time letting mine go  for that money. It just works too well.  Good Luck   
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: screamday on April 13, 2015, 02:53:46 PM
Visually, there is little difference.

The early 1998s had a red oval with "V11" on the side cover.   

Here's my 98 with a Corbin seat and a Rifle fairing
(http://www.ulterior-design.net/photos/Guzzi.jpg)
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: BigDave in PA on April 13, 2015, 02:58:50 PM
Looks more like my 98 than a 2001.


The fender colors are reversed on an '01.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: screamday on April 13, 2015, 03:02:13 PM
The fender colors are reversed on an '01.

Good eyes....I would have never caught that in the picture.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: LowRyter on April 13, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
Here's my 98 with a Corbin seat and a Rifle fairing
(http://www.ulterior-design.net/photos/Guzzi.jpg)

does the Corbin seat fit the standard computer?  Or did replace and relocate the computer?
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Vagrant on April 13, 2015, 03:57:26 PM
01 has a relocated, smaller size faster computer than earlier models. much better. fuel lines are different and better.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: screamday on April 13, 2015, 05:17:42 PM
(http://www.ulterior-design.net/photos/Guzzi.jpg)
does the Corbin seat fit the standard computer?  Or did replace and relocate the computer?

Yes....this seat is made to fit the P8 box.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: LowRyter on April 13, 2015, 05:44:39 PM
which one is the P8?  the stock '98 or the replacement?

Thanks. 
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: delrod on April 13, 2015, 06:13:20 PM
The corbin seat on my 03 ev is for a 98 ev fit is good hold down (latch) is different
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on April 13, 2015, 06:57:46 PM
The one bitch I have about my 98 is how the seat flops around if you take the pillion off.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: BSABEN on April 13, 2015, 07:26:19 PM
Inquire if the cluth is original. I bought my EV at 40k miles and it needed a new clutch. No sure what a dealer would charge but it literally means tearing the bike half apart.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 14, 2015, 08:52:24 PM
Took it for a test drive today, since I now ride a scooter I guess it seemed like it vibrated A LOT! Will I get used to it over time? It did feel like I was definitely riding a proper motorcycle again. My kids made me laugh when they said its "guts" were showing!! Offered $3500, will see what the owner says tomorrow...
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: rocker59 on April 14, 2015, 09:12:59 PM

[sarcasm]

They vibrate like Hell.  Much worse than Sportsters, and such.

Hard to believe these actually sold, but they did.

I don't know how people have been able to log hundreds of thousands of miles on the things.   

The vibration renders them practically unrideable...

[/sarcasm]
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: oldbike54 on April 14, 2015, 09:17:34 PM
[sarcasm]

They vibrate like Hell.  Much worse than Sportsters, and such.

Hard to believe these actually sold, but they did.

I don't know how people have been able to log hundreds of thousands of miles on the things.  

The vibration renders them practically unrideable...

[/sarcasm]

 I don't think Mr Radtke knows the back story on the sarcasm Mike  ;) Betcha he learns to rev it and finds out it will run smooth  ;-T

  Dusty
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 19, 2015, 05:29:33 PM
Well folks I picked her up yesterday, $3800 after a bit of haggling ☺. Brought it home and have been exploring and cleaning. Took my oldest for a quick ride and she said we weren't taking the scooter again, just this one!(http://rs821.pbsrc.com/albums/zz134/mtradtke/Mobile%20Uploads/0418151433.jpg~320x480)
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Lannis on April 19, 2015, 07:52:30 PM
Well folks I picked her up yesterday, $3800 after a bit of haggling ☺. Brought it home and have been exploring and cleaning. Took my oldest for a quick ride and she said we weren't taking the scooter again, just this one!(http://rs821.pbsrc.com/albums/zz134/mtradtke/Mobile%20Uploads/0418151433.jpg~320x480)

That's the right order!   Exploring, cleaning ... then bonding with a nice overnight trip on the road!

Lannis
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: rodekyll on April 19, 2015, 10:38:39 PM
I like the seat.  Did you get a t-shirt out of the haggle?  Always get your t-shirt.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on April 20, 2015, 09:36:39 AM
Congratulations  ;-T
I bought almost the same bike in Denver only yours is much nicer.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Rich A on April 20, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
Handsome bike. Congratulations.

Rich A
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 20, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
Thanks all, loving the motorcycle!! The shirt is an old one I got when Cycle World was selling them many moons ago I believe  :).
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: rodekyll on April 20, 2015, 08:08:55 PM
But you can't say BTDT unless you have the free t-shirt to prove it.  You need to go back and have them give you one.    ~;
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 20, 2015, 09:21:06 PM
I will have to see if they have one that fits someone "well nourished"  :D

Michael
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: Bill N on April 21, 2015, 03:34:02 PM
Great looking bike.
 Just think you bought all that you got for less money than a 250-300 cc entry level bike. :drool
Hope you enjoy it as much as I love my 98EV. As others posted keep the revs up. Don't drive it like a Harley. 4000 RPM and above is where this bike wants to be. Will be less strain of the drive train too.
Bill
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 21, 2015, 09:16:45 PM
Thanks for the advice, I will definitely do that. I have got a lot to learn here, so I may be asking a ton of absurd questions. I am going to try and do a search first so as not to annoy  ::(.

Michael
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: boatdetective on April 22, 2015, 06:35:45 AM
Congrats!  dollar for dollar, you got a fantastic deal. That is an extremely capable platform on top of being very pretty.
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 23, 2015, 07:16:58 PM
Congrats!  dollar for dollar, you got a fantastic deal. That is an extremely capable platform on top of being very pretty.

Thank you very much!! The more I spend time with it the more I realize I have gotten a really well taken care of example. Here is part of my Pit Crew  :)

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz134/mtradtke/Mobile%20Uploads/0418151433a.jpg)
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: kidsmoke on April 24, 2015, 07:34:41 AM
Very cool Michael. Congrats on the buy, and the sweet bike. I just found this model (well, a Jackal) last summer myself. Very glad I did. She looks ready for adventure. This will imprint on your kids too, you'll be talking about this bike for generations.

my pit crew....daughter Em on the same platform.

sorry. can't help myself


(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/tiokimo/Jackal/em%20on%20board_zpsgve1hqau.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/tiokimo/media/Jackal/em%20on%20board_zpsgve1hqau.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: mradtke on April 24, 2015, 03:04:42 PM
Very nice!! I am half wanting my kids to want to ride when they grow up and half scared to death they will!!  ???

Michael
Title: Re: 2001 California EV
Post by: K250 on April 26, 2015, 10:08:20 AM
Good Job Michael! Excellent motorcycle at a fair price.  And you live in smack in the middle of some excellent riding!  Congratulations and have a good summer riding around.